Reminds me of how Leslie tried to seduce Robin by wearing a giant Snickers in SP. If Ruth wants to hook up with Billie, she just needs to fill the bathtub with beer and hop in.
It should be non-alcoholic beer, naturally. But Billie doesn’t need to be told that.
Think about it this way: you wouldn’t be able to go back to beat the crap outta your past self if your future self came back and killed you, wouldn’t make sense.
Mr. Random
If you work on a non split timeline theory or paradoxical constant timeline, or maybe it simply wasn’t you.
…
You’d be surprised at how many types have been created.
If you went back and beat yourself up, then you (the person doing the beating) wouldn’t exist anymore because the circumstances that created you are different.
Tunaro
What if a person only went back in order to create a logical chain of events after being beaten up by their future self?
Also what happens after ya kick your past ass? Stay in the past and set up a new identity to make bank offa future info?
Doom Shepherd
Predestination paradox. We hate those.
Bill
It’s the “butterfly effect”, albeit on a lesser scale. Just like killing Hitler before he had been able to rise to power would likely prevent WWII and the Holocaust, the principle of unintended consequences comes into play. No WWII means (possibly) no space program; no atomic program; a different world map; and the role of women in the workforce comes much later in the 20th century, if it comes about at all. See Bradbury’s “A Sound of Thunder” (from which we get the term ‘butterfly effect’); see Heinlein’s “By His Bootstraps”; see Martin Caidin’s “Final Countdown”; heck, they even flirted with the premise in the “Back to the Future” franchise.
But everything you’ve done (or not done) up to this point is the reason that *YOU* are the specific person that you are right now, Monday AM, 12/30/2013. So any change, even if it is something as simple as dating a different girl or guy in high school, will have far-reaching effects down the line. That’s why, if we ever do find ways to travel in time, I hope we become merely a presence — an “eye in the sky”, so to speak — so that we can see the past but not be able to alter it.
xbulba
WWII would have likely happened, although differently, without Hitler, the pent up frustration and economic hardship in Germany caused by the treaty of Versailles was a time bomb. The persecution of Jews made a lot of sense economically, and as a scapegoat, on top of that there is a long history of it in Europe (it’s not anything new).
Additionally this analogy falls apart when considering Martin Luther and the Catholic Churches previous ability to crush dissent. Luther was not the first, and many before him were executed or imprisoned. The Holy Roman Empire princes were looking for an excuse to get out from under the churches thumb, especially when considering the previous 30 year war which devastated the princes domains.
Every time I hear someone say that, I always think of how it would be the most masochistic paradox ever, don’t know why.
Also, I would so beat the crap outta Past Me.
Oh, man, if I could go back in time to punch past me in the face, I’d be at it for YEARS. Seriously, 1st-10th grade me needed an ass-kicking bi-weekly.
Yeah, I’m stuck sick at my parents’ house, so not even having DoA comments to entertain me made me sad.
Of course, the comments themselves, day-before-yesterday, were making me both sad and angry, so. But at least I got to rant at folk who were aggressively avoiding the fucking point.
246 thoughts on “Simplicity”
Kladeos
YOU’RE THINKING OF RUTH.
Aizat
AND ALCOHOL!
Croaxleigh
Together!
Doctor_Who
Reminds me of how Leslie tried to seduce Robin by wearing a giant Snickers in SP. If Ruth wants to hook up with Billie, she just needs to fill the bathtub with beer and hop in.
It should be non-alcoholic beer, naturally. But Billie doesn’t need to be told that.
Plasma Mongoose
Billie can smell the difference.
KingMabel
I’m sure Billie would be too distracted by a nude Ruth in a bathtub to care about the smell of non-alcoholic beer in said bathtub.
Frelance
we can all smell the difference
John Cabot
Oh, fake beer is nasty. It’s all the horror without the semblance of a payoff.
qka
Right down there with decaff tea.
Baker
You fill it with virgin strawberry daiquiri, because symbolism.
M
But the yeast…
ShadowWing Tronix
Ruthihol.
Vert
Ruthahol!
Geo
Don’t drink that! It has a Ruthie in it!
Lucas
YES
THIS IS GOOD
Idon'tcarenomore
No comment.
Tunaro
“…”
Mr. Random
…………………………
Just Cheeto Dust
…[…].
(…)
Foxhack
OH CRAP IT’S DUKE TOGO
Jay Eff
· · · – – – · · ·
Trae Dorn
THE TIGER TOOK MY FAMILY
Doctor_Who
I am so ashamed to understand that reference.
Chronos
I am so understanding to reference that shame.
Aizat
I’m not. I loved that song.
Comment
But…why not?
Just Cheeto Dust
I always wanted to beat up a past self.
Doctor_Who
Me too. But the opportunity only presents itself on anniversaries.
shparky
All the +1s
StClair
Very nice.
TheSuicidalGiraffe
God that made my day
Kiggy
Me too
Geminia999
Hey I’ll join you 😀
Wonder Wig
*People get in line to hit him like in Airplane.*
Just Cheeto Dust
That’s almost worth it to get slapped by Leslie Nielsen.
Twice.
Just Cheeto Dust
Now, is my past self being forced into a handicap match, or is this some kind of present vs self tag team thing?
Jen Aside
I’ve been tempted to do that, but what if that makes Present Me stupider? =<
[then again, stupidity seems to be its own "special" kind of haven…]
E.R.
That’s why you don’t aim for your head (it’s really hard, anyways). Go for a gut punch.
Wonder Wig
Past self needs a bongo slap
Blackbird
I’ve always wanted a future self to come back to beat me up, but then I beat her up. To prove I’m the toughest me there is.
E.R.
Also proving that you have already hit the pinnacle of your life and will only proceed to decay from that point on.
Aizat
Sure…if you like wiping yourself from existence.
Tunaro
You wouldn’t be erasing yourself, just getting a couple new scars and maybe a metal plate in yer head.
Aizat
You sure about that?
Tunaro
Think about it this way: you wouldn’t be able to go back to beat the crap outta your past self if your future self came back and killed you, wouldn’t make sense.
Mr. Random
If you work on a non split timeline theory or paradoxical constant timeline, or maybe it simply wasn’t you.
…
You’d be surprised at how many types have been created.
Foxhack
If you went back and beat yourself up, then you (the person doing the beating) wouldn’t exist anymore because the circumstances that created you are different.
Tunaro
What if a person only went back in order to create a logical chain of events after being beaten up by their future self?
Also what happens after ya kick your past ass? Stay in the past and set up a new identity to make bank offa future info?
Doom Shepherd
Predestination paradox. We hate those.
Bill
It’s the “butterfly effect”, albeit on a lesser scale. Just like killing Hitler before he had been able to rise to power would likely prevent WWII and the Holocaust, the principle of unintended consequences comes into play. No WWII means (possibly) no space program; no atomic program; a different world map; and the role of women in the workforce comes much later in the 20th century, if it comes about at all. See Bradbury’s “A Sound of Thunder” (from which we get the term ‘butterfly effect’); see Heinlein’s “By His Bootstraps”; see Martin Caidin’s “Final Countdown”; heck, they even flirted with the premise in the “Back to the Future” franchise.
But everything you’ve done (or not done) up to this point is the reason that *YOU* are the specific person that you are right now, Monday AM, 12/30/2013. So any change, even if it is something as simple as dating a different girl or guy in high school, will have far-reaching effects down the line. That’s why, if we ever do find ways to travel in time, I hope we become merely a presence — an “eye in the sky”, so to speak — so that we can see the past but not be able to alter it.
xbulba
WWII would have likely happened, although differently, without Hitler, the pent up frustration and economic hardship in Germany caused by the treaty of Versailles was a time bomb. The persecution of Jews made a lot of sense economically, and as a scapegoat, on top of that there is a long history of it in Europe (it’s not anything new).
Additionally this analogy falls apart when considering Martin Luther and the Catholic Churches previous ability to crush dissent. Luther was not the first, and many before him were executed or imprisoned. The Holy Roman Empire princes were looking for an excuse to get out from under the churches thumb, especially when considering the previous 30 year war which devastated the princes domains.
Croaxleigh
I think it was more “beat up” and less “savagely murder.”
Just Cheeto Dust
You might have mistaken knocking some sense into a past self with flat out murder.
Aizat
Well…the current you gets wiped from existence…
Just Cheeto Dust
I could always pick a time when I stagnated socially.
I don’t know anymore, I kind of checked out of this conversation mentally after the “Airplane!” reference above.
Tunaro
Every time I hear someone say that, I always think of how it would be the most masochistic paradox ever, don’t know why.
Also, I would so beat the crap outta Past Me.
Just Cheeto Dust
Sorry, I tried to reply to this, and ended up checking Google to see if someone named their band “Masochistic Paradox” instead.
shparky
Why am I not surprised that exists?
The Tenderest Steak
Yeah, my past self annoys the hell out of me…
The Tenderest Steak
I know, you’re just the worst, waiting for the next update instead of doing something more productive on the internet.
The Tenderest Steak
C’mon, comments just came back on, no need to lash out man. Let’s revel in the beers, Ruth and Billie fun times ahead.
The Tenderest Steak
Your mom revels…
The Tenderest Steak
FOR A NICKEL!
PrincessCarlos
I get it. Its just not funny.
Arkantos
Oh, man, if I could go back in time to punch past me in the face, I’d be at it for YEARS. Seriously, 1st-10th grade me needed an ass-kicking bi-weekly.
Guest Person Dude
I’d rather give my past self hugs.
It could use them
Jen Aside
Comments back? Is this a good idea? =<
Keroshino
Shut-up…don’t ruin it for the rest of us 🙁
Crimson Magic
I was sad I couldn’t lurk the comment section yesterday, so I am at least moderately gladdened.
James
I know. I so wanted to talk about Wallie’s hidden Twincest urges and that he is porjecting them on Dorothy.
but no!!!
John
Yeah, I’m stuck sick at my parents’ house, so not even having DoA comments to entertain me made me sad.
Of course, the comments themselves, day-before-yesterday, were making me both sad and angry, so. But at least I got to rant at folk who were aggressively avoiding the fucking point.
Kladeos
Well, we’ve moved on somewhat.
Jay Eff
Seems to be running smoothly so far… we’ll see.
Dr. Paul