I disagree, I wager she’d be in heavy denial if accused outright
David
Well, you know the Justice Thomas strategy: the only way to stop racism is by ignoring its existence. If you point out to Linda that she is acting racist, that only proves that you are the racist. Logic that is good enough for the Supreme Court should certainly be good enough for Linda.
Wizard
The idea that maybe new and better racism isn’t the best way to fight old racism is not remotely the same thing as ignoring the existence of racism. People who are just a little too eager to find racism under every rock can do a lot to alienate people who might otherwise be perfectly willing to cooperate with them. (And yes, I also regularly deal with people who seem to find it hard to recognize actual racism even when it’s pretty much staring them in the face. They’re not doing themselves or anyone else any favors either.)
Decidedly Orthogonal
What is actual racism as compared to something that isn’t racism?
Taffy
For one thing, you won’t find as many people trying to write something off as racist, compared to how many will bend themselves into knots trying to say that same thing isn’t.
So like, if I upload a YouTube video “debating” the idea that Japanese people are overworked, versus if I upload one that’s just me brushing my teeth.
Jeffrey
Hey, it’s a ‘Moderate’:) You can tell because they’re always Very Concerned that racism be opposed in the Right Ways. And by who they went to ask what those Right Ways are.
Considering I’ve seen people straight up say they believe black people are generically dumber and still claim they aren’t racist as long as a racist doesn’t say they’re racist they will feel like they have enough deniability.
Hof1991
Neither their bones nor their hearts are racist.
Needfuldoer
They’ll bend their minds into a pretzel, if it means they don’t have to confront the thought that maybe they’re not the perfect, flawless protagonist of life.
Wizard
There’s at least some evidence suggesting differences in intelligence between races. Pre-judging people on this base is pretty stupid, though. First off, race as a scientific concept is more than a little questionable. Second, these are only averages and they were very small, much smaller than normal variation within each race.
Decidedly Orthogonal
[citation needed]
But these little slights you’re tossing about sound like a troll on a fishing trip.
The Oracle
You made that up just now, you big fibber.
azrael
Welcome to 1840: population you.
Pseudo-scientists have been trying to justify their harted with these faked studies “proving” that non-whites had smaller skulls, smaller brains, etc… since there were people who called themselves scientists. Not a single bit was found to be fact; just worthless drivel being touted by racists so they could call themselves better, all because the only thing they have to be proud of was an accident of birth.
Yup. Real science today confirms that when categorized by race, individuals display more genetic diversity among themselves than the entire human species.
But see what happens when you abandon the realm of appeal to raw power / privilege and pretend to use science to “prove” pervasive, poisonous prejudices. There are always REAL scientists who are willing to check your facts.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Are we, like, talking about adeptness for memorizing long division answers-type intelligence, or the kind that matters when it comes to approving or fearing whom the other parent of your grandchildren might be?
…Or is that too nuanced a take for how those kind of folk view the world? Another thing to consider is that the United States traditionally has a very-skin color-centric definition of what is really just a plainer way to say nationality/ethnicity/cultural background, as far as the word goes, rooted in our long history of flamboyantly brutal chattel enslavement and dehumanitizing of Americans with African roots, and genocide both cultural and literal of the people of the previous nations from where we live, I’m afraid.
not someone else
That’s true! It turns out the entire concept of “intelligence” as a singular and definable thing comes from eugenics and is pretty useless for modern science, not to mention, as you mentioned, “race” having no clearly definable biological basis, rather than a social one.
Speaking of social bases, have you considered this might be a really worrying and off-putting discussion to just drop into the middle of a thread? Because it is.
Mark
See, if the statistics bear it out, using fair tests (supposing someone comes up with one), then it isn’t racism but realism, so they would be right.
But OTOH the inventor of the IQ test couldn’t satisfactorily define “intelligence”, and we don’t know much more today about what “intelligence” is. So I’m inclined to say to any such statistics: “that’s mildly interesting, but what does it actually tell us, and is it worth anything to know that?”
The best use of such statistics, I think, is that when you find someone taking them seriously, do not let him near the levers of power.
Well, yes. But how exactly? Is this going to result in team garbage getting back together, which sucks for Lucy. Is a white girlfriend for Walky going to demote Sal, which sucks for Sal who only wanted to feel what parental approval feels like for one night. Will Linda have an instant aneurysm, which sucks for Charles. Will Sal and Danny play along with bit or will Danny open his mouth and Danny it up. Will Amber and Danny reconnect and flee the drama together, which really sucks for Sal. Will Linda open her mouth and trigger the appearance of Amazigirl. Will Charles buy the wrong size shirt?
I’m betting on Danny opening his mouth in a way that escalates the situation: Danny, by calling out the sham between Walky and Amber, suddenly invites Carol to start pushing for Walky/Amber full force revealing her true feelings when she’s pushing for a relationship her own son doesn’t want.
Dan will dan it up, but in a good way… Accelerationist Danny.
I imagine out of her four choices she’s going to choose Danny, because so long as one of her kids has a SO she approves of she doesn’t have to approve of anyone elses.
I can almost see Linda telling Amber: “at least what you did set our daughter back on the right path.” Or some other other b.s. At least, that’s what I think would cause the most “damn you Willis!” in the comments.
Hopefully it’ll come up that no amount of suing Amber’s codependent mother will change the fact she couldn’t do any more than the next lily-white climber or climber-wannabe of a suburban household about Blaine when there was still time, and is just looking for someone connected to bully so she can feel like that isn’t the case…
Barking demands at the police on how to do their jobs, which they are already faring much better than she would have in their place, doesn’t strike fear in men (hey, if you can call a bansai tree a tree, or a gremlin a car) like Blaine one bit.
Wondering how much it’s costing her to try to sue Amber’s mother and Joyce’s broke old church?
Her lawyer’s are gonna get paid either way, but on the small chance either will make it to court, it won’t be long before close to half of everyone in the courtroom quietly realizes Linda just wants to hear the sound of her own voice with these lawsuits
esp if sal says that walky’s actually serious, would make him come off as a player but idk if the parents wouldnecessairly think that’s a bad aspect other than potential stds/pregnancy scares
253 thoughts on “Six-top”
Ana Chronistic
by “right kind of girl” you mean…
Laura
“The white kind of girl for him.”
NGPZ
The students are like pawns to her, only fitting she’d keep white on her right. -_-
Lysbeth
Yeah, something is not qright white. Er, quite right.
Sirksome
I mean have you seen how black she is!? A mother knows how to be racist with deniability!
Leorale
Not much deniability, tbh
Qube
I disagree, I wager she’d be in heavy denial if accused outright
David
Well, you know the Justice Thomas strategy: the only way to stop racism is by ignoring its existence. If you point out to Linda that she is acting racist, that only proves that you are the racist. Logic that is good enough for the Supreme Court should certainly be good enough for Linda.
Wizard
The idea that maybe new and better racism isn’t the best way to fight old racism is not remotely the same thing as ignoring the existence of racism. People who are just a little too eager to find racism under every rock can do a lot to alienate people who might otherwise be perfectly willing to cooperate with them. (And yes, I also regularly deal with people who seem to find it hard to recognize actual racism even when it’s pretty much staring them in the face. They’re not doing themselves or anyone else any favors either.)
Decidedly Orthogonal
What is actual racism as compared to something that isn’t racism?
Taffy
For one thing, you won’t find as many people trying to write something off as racist, compared to how many will bend themselves into knots trying to say that same thing isn’t.
So like, if I upload a YouTube video “debating” the idea that Japanese people are overworked, versus if I upload one that’s just me brushing my teeth.
Jeffrey
Hey, it’s a ‘Moderate’:) You can tell because they’re always Very Concerned that racism be opposed in the Right Ways. And by who they went to ask what those Right Ways are.
Hoboturtle
Considering I’ve seen people straight up say they believe black people are generically dumber and still claim they aren’t racist as long as a racist doesn’t say they’re racist they will feel like they have enough deniability.
Hof1991
Neither their bones nor their hearts are racist.
Needfuldoer
They’ll bend their minds into a pretzel, if it means they don’t have to confront the thought that maybe they’re not the perfect, flawless protagonist of life.
Wizard
There’s at least some evidence suggesting differences in intelligence between races. Pre-judging people on this base is pretty stupid, though. First off, race as a scientific concept is more than a little questionable. Second, these are only averages and they were very small, much smaller than normal variation within each race.
Decidedly Orthogonal
[citation needed]
But these little slights you’re tossing about sound like a troll on a fishing trip.
The Oracle
You made that up just now, you big fibber.
azrael
Welcome to 1840: population you.
Pseudo-scientists have been trying to justify their harted with these faked studies “proving” that non-whites had smaller skulls, smaller brains, etc… since there were people who called themselves scientists. Not a single bit was found to be fact; just worthless drivel being touted by racists so they could call themselves better, all because the only thing they have to be proud of was an accident of birth.
NGPZ
Yup. Real science today confirms that when categorized by race, individuals display more genetic diversity among themselves than the entire human species.
But see what happens when you abandon the realm of appeal to raw power / privilege and pretend to use science to “prove” pervasive, poisonous prejudices. There are always REAL scientists who are willing to check your facts.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Are we, like, talking about adeptness for memorizing long division answers-type intelligence, or the kind that matters when it comes to approving or fearing whom the other parent of your grandchildren might be?
…Or is that too nuanced a take for how those kind of folk view the world? Another thing to consider is that the United States traditionally has a very-skin color-centric definition of what is really just a plainer way to say nationality/ethnicity/cultural background, as far as the word goes, rooted in our long history of flamboyantly brutal chattel enslavement and dehumanitizing of Americans with African roots, and genocide both cultural and literal of the people of the previous nations from where we live, I’m afraid.
not someone else
That’s true! It turns out the entire concept of “intelligence” as a singular and definable thing comes from eugenics and is pretty useless for modern science, not to mention, as you mentioned, “race” having no clearly definable biological basis, rather than a social one.
Speaking of social bases, have you considered this might be a really worrying and off-putting discussion to just drop into the middle of a thread? Because it is.
Mark
See, if the statistics bear it out, using fair tests (supposing someone comes up with one), then it isn’t racism but realism, so they would be right.
But OTOH the inventor of the IQ test couldn’t satisfactorily define “intelligence”, and we don’t know much more today about what “intelligence” is. So I’m inclined to say to any such statistics: “that’s mildly interesting, but what does it actually tell us, and is it worth anything to know that?”
The best use of such statistics, I think, is that when you find someone taking them seriously, do not let him near the levers of power.
NGPZ
The concept of IQ and IQ tests have a horrendous history of being used to uphold white supremacy / systematic ableism, eugenics, etc. Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bKaw2AJxs
Furie
“Think of it like bathroom suites! White is right!” – Linda
NGPZ
Whatever ya say, Paula Deen! ?
Yotomoe
Decided to do an early release on this cuz I’m so proud of it. The trist between Lucy, Amber and Walky.
NSFW
Sirksome
It’s not a real threesome unless you have to hide a body after!
Doug D
Or during!
Opus the Poet
I never had to hide any bodies after any of my threesomes. And I’ve had several in many combinations of gender.
Gwyn
That is an awfully specific and definitely not at all suspicious denial.
Opus the Poet
“Nobody died”
Ray Radlein
“I never had to hide any bodies”
BarerMender
I’m always up for Amber unclad. Hubba Hmmph! Mmmph… *Walky desperately tries to tap out.*
TheKelliestKelly
That’s super good! I can see why you’re proud of it. It’s hot and well drawn
TulipKitten
Wally (muffled): Today is a good day to die.
TulipKitten
Goddamn autocorrect. It’s Walky, not Wally.
cbwroses
I mean, if I have to go, I’d choose death by snu snu, too.
Kyrik Michalowski
Well done, you’ve fulfilled many hopes(boners) on this day. Really nice work man, you should be proud.
Enkrod
The pyjamajeans really sell it!
not someone else
That is adorable.
PirateTawnee
Well that’s just brilliant. In so many ways.
NGPZ
Awesome work, Porn Lord Yoto! ☺️
Clif
We are not worthy!
Rose by Any Other Name
Excellent work, as always. *tips hat*
Miri
Amber’s blunt, but she’s perceptive. And I’m not sure if Walky is complaining…
Uratnik
Oh this is gonna go Horrifically.
Lars
Wait til Dorothy crashes in as well.
Clif
Well, yes. But how exactly? Is this going to result in team garbage getting back together, which sucks for Lucy. Is a white girlfriend for Walky going to demote Sal, which sucks for Sal who only wanted to feel what parental approval feels like for one night. Will Linda have an instant aneurysm, which sucks for Charles. Will Sal and Danny play along with bit or will Danny open his mouth and Danny it up. Will Amber and Danny reconnect and flee the drama together, which really sucks for Sal. Will Linda open her mouth and trigger the appearance of Amazigirl. Will Charles buy the wrong size shirt?
And what about
NaomiDorothy?fridge_logic
I’m betting on Danny opening his mouth in a way that escalates the situation: Danny, by calling out the sham between Walky and Amber, suddenly invites Carol to start pushing for Walky/Amber full force revealing her true feelings when she’s pushing for a relationship her own son doesn’t want.
Dan will dan it up, but in a good way… Accelerationist Danny.
Alan in DC
Wow, there’s an obscure cultural reference if ever there was one.
Electric Company, circa 1971 or so, correct?
Gee
I just want to see the look on her face when she realizes she has to choose whether to approve of the girl who stabbed her daughter, or a black girl.
NGPZ
Racist bongo gonna short circuit so bad, oooooh am I gonna SAVOR this!!!! ✌️?
Clif
Instead of either/or it can be neither.
Retrikaethan
oh, she’s gonna pick amber hands down. having stabbed sal is probably bonus points to her.
TulipKitten
But her dad also kidnapped Walky.
cain
She wanted to get Amber kicked out of school because of the stabbing plus Blaine’s actions, iirc.
BBCC
Mostly Blaine, let’s all be honest.
temporaryobsessor
I imagine out of her four choices she’s going to choose Danny, because so long as one of her kids has a SO she approves of she doesn’t have to approve of anyone elses.
Devin
Yeah but Danny doesn’t want to date Walky!
Clif
Not yet, but Linda hasn’t explained the advantages.
Angel
even if she ‘s neutral about lucy in the end hopefully they won’t stick around again for too long
David
Her daughter is black for all she cares. Getting stabbed by a white person is normal social interaction.
Needfuldoer
Does Linda know this Amber is that Amber? Maybe things will be civil.
… for a bit, then they drop the bombshell!
Needfuldoer
They could plausibly suspect she isn’t, because they don’t know someone else started paying for her tuition after Blaine died.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/marketplace/
Clif
Well, she must know someone else is paying her mom’s legal bills if she’s repeatedly sued her.
Angel
probably not yet but given that lucy also knows i assume she’d also tell her
Chubsius
I can almost see Linda telling Amber: “at least what you did set our daughter back on the right path.” Or some other other b.s. At least, that’s what I think would cause the most “damn you Willis!” in the comments.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Hopefully it’ll come up that no amount of suing Amber’s codependent mother will change the fact she couldn’t do any more than the next lily-white climber or climber-wannabe of a suburban household about Blaine when there was still time, and is just looking for someone connected to bully so she can feel like that isn’t the case…
Barking demands at the police on how to do their jobs, which they are already faring much better than she would have in their place, doesn’t strike fear in men (hey, if you can call a bansai tree a tree, or a gremlin a car) like Blaine one bit.
Wondering how much it’s costing her to try to sue Amber’s mother and Joyce’s broke old church?
Her lawyer’s are gonna get paid either way, but on the small chance either will make it to court, it won’t be long before close to half of everyone in the courtroom quietly realizes Linda just wants to hear the sound of her own voice with these lawsuits
TheCatCameBack
Ah yes, a racist mother knows… how to be racist
StClair
yyyeah, this’ll be great when he shows up with Amber instead.
Angel
esp if sal says that walky’s actually serious, would make him come off as a player but idk if the parents wouldnecessairly think that’s a bad aspect other than potential stds/pregnancy scares
Garry
“I just want your brother to be with someone a bit… brighter! Maybe a girl with a…lighter tone!”