I think getting married strictly for citizenship purposes is.
On the other hand the 2 of them did have a pre-existing relationship going back, what, a few weeks at least, and the 2 of them have been seen together holding hand in public, almost living together/sharing her room. It might be a “rushed” marriage but an investigation would probably find enough there to consider it legitimate.
Paradox
Yeah, it’s entirely on INS to prove its a sham marriage
That said, actual native born citizens get deported sometimes, because the entire system is messed up (Judges that preside over immigration cases can be fired for not meeting a quota of cases resolved, they are literally the only Judges in the US this can happen to, this results in a lot of rushed cases, and people fall through the cracks)
Taffy
That’s pretty fucked up. Like, where does this always-been-a-citizen even get deported to? Hopefully someplace that’s friendly to people who’ve been forcibly shipped there.
thejeff
Generally native born citizens only get deported if they’re brown and probably Spanish speaking.
Let’s hope no. Jason is way a better person without that job.
Decidedly Orthogonal
How does his employment status as a T.A. affect his quality as a person? If he’s grown as a person, the job is immaterial, and if he hasn’t, not having the job is like a christian only being good so they can get into heaven.
Ryan
Some jobs bring out the worst in people for a variety of reasons.
This would be exceedingly counterproductive as regards achieving a relationship where the other partner has free agency. Also I don’t know that Ruth is an American citizen anyway?
I believe Sir is American if I’m not mistaken—which in turn’d make Ruth’s late mother to also have been American, and Ruth herself a presumable Canadian-American dual citizen.
Taffy
How far down does that go, anyway? Like, if I move to Japan and have a kid, my kid’s American by default, yeah? But if my kid moves to Brazil and has their own kid, is my grandkid also American? And do they have triple citizenship in America, Japan, and Brazil at that point?
I just wanna know if I can set things up for my descendants to have omni-citizenship.
Yumi
Well, for some countries– including Japan, I believe– you have to give up one of those kinds of citizenships at a certain age. So that example wouldn’t work, but I don’t know about others.
Some countries don’t really allow for dual citizenship, and a subset of those countries require you to have parents who have citizens of that country to be considered a natural-born citizen in the first place, so it varies. For example, I was born in an American hospital in Germany to American parents (my father was Air Force), and for most of my life I believed I had dual citizenship because that’s what my mother thought and that’s what she told me. Then when I was in college, my German prof informed me that Germany doesn’t really *do* dual citizenship. I looked it up, and it’s true that Deutschland didn’t do dual citizenship for kids born to foreign nationals until about 1997 or so (I was born earlier than that, so I was SOL on that front). Even then, the child in question would have to either default to German citizenship or relinquish it once they turn 23 years of age.
So…yeah.
Inahc
wait, what? my SO and MIL are looking into german citizenship; SO’s grandmother is german, and supposedly that was enough for them to be eligible if she hadn’t hidden the paperwork (which has now been found, along with plenty of other drama).
maybe it’s the “foreign nationals” bit there that matters, and they’re ok with dual citizenship so long as you can prove some ancestor was german…
Inahc
..aha, they do have a few exceptions. “This rule does not apply to Germans who receive the other citizenship by law (e.g. children born in Canada to parents that hold German citizenship at the time of the birth of the child may be dual citizens by law), or…”
Inahc
oh neat, turns out I’m eligible for irish citizenship too, if I ever feel the need for an EU passport again 🙂
Taffy
Well, fuck. There goes my dream of having supercitizen great-great-grandkids. Earth sucks.
Clint is her maternal grandfather and he lives within reasonable driving distance, so her mother could’ve been American. That would give her American citizenship by birthright.
Also: Do you think Ruth will survive this timeline? She feels like she is reaching the end of an arc (and when your characters are out of arc – its time to go dark??). I heard she went out like a boss in the last one.
Thag Simmons
I don’t think we’re going to see any (more) major character deaths, and if we do I definitely don’t think Ruth would be one of them.
Sirksome
Yeah, she apparently died in a previous comic. I don’t know for sure I just know some more lore savvy commenters mentioned it. We probably don’t need a rehash of a Ruth death.
Cholma
Yep. She died in Roomies! saving Danny’s life. It’s where the line, “act with integrity, no regrets” comes from.
Oh dear Cheese, I’ve been reading Willis’ stories for a loooong time.
King Daniel
(For those readers who don’t know the context of the publication date, Ruth’s Roomies! death was in or about 1999.)
Liara
March 19 1999, according to the person that posted the original upload dates onto the re-run on itswalky.com
BowlerHatGuy
“Yep. She died in Roomies! saving Danny’s life. It’s where the line, “act with integrity, no regrets” comes from.”
Oh man, that explains so much.
Liara
Fun fact: Ruth has, in real time, been alive in DoA for longer than the time between her death in Roomies! and her DoA (re-)appearance
Wereg
I’m gonna bank on Grandfather Clout pulling Jason another job at the University.
Bicycle Bill
That’s what I was thinking too. The grandfather has enough influence of one form or another to keep her under his thumb, so maybe he’s got other kinds of clout that can be brought to bear to assist Jason with his little problem.
thejeff
Her grandfather has some clout, but it’s hard to imagine Ruth asking him for help.
Maybe she’ll try to get him a job that would allow for his work visa again? I don’t know, but my first thought was “adopt him,” and 1. Don’t think that would work and 2. What.
So I think the job thing is at least more likely than that.
there are very specific criteria that jobs need to follow to qualify for a work visa (H1-B, OPT, whatever Jason is on). It can’t just be any job and has to happen pretty much ASAP. The comic is gonna need to take significant liberties for Ruth’s plan to work.
(my entire life has been governed by visas)
Yumi
Well, sure, that’s why I said “try”– I’d be skeptical of it working. Maybe Jason was reintroduced to get deported. That would kind of suck, honestly.
It wouldn’t be the first time a character would have to leave the scene because of force mature. Speaking of which, I wonder if Liz will ever make an appearance again.
Bicycle Bill
You mean you don’t think this comic has taken ‘significant liberties’ with things already?
He’s on a student visa, not a work visa, which is part of the problem. Not sure what jobs, if any, he’s allowed to have with that one.
Proxiehunter
Nope, according to this strip he has a work visa. And we know her grandfather has enough pull with the college to get people reinstated to positions they shouldn’t be in. So I assume she’s going to try to get his TA job back.
Yumi
I don’t know what type of visa he maybe “should” be on, but according to the words literally in today’s and yesterday’s strips, it’s a work visa.
You can sort of work on a student visa in the US under the following conditions:
– Just a regular student visa: No more than 20 hours a week on campus for minimum wage
– CPT: Can work during your study but it has to be something related to what you’re studying (so like a paid internship, and this is also how I got a paid job to be my final MFA project)
– OPT: 1 year (18 months for STEM majors) after graduation to work on something related to your degree – you don’t need to already have a job to get this (I did this after my MFA)
A lot of people will try for a H1-B, which is what people tend to think of when they say “work visa”. It needs to be a 3 year job and your company has to sponsor it. There’s actually an issue with Twitter right now because of the sudden layoffs – a lot of people employed there are on H1Bs and if they got caught up in the layoffs they have to scramble to find a new job before they are in breach of visa.
There’s also a billion other visa types but those are the main ones that relate to Jason’s situation.
The Resident Assistant’s assistant? I like that. Ooo, and then he could get am assistant and it could be assistants all the way down.
Thag Simmons
Giving Jason a position as her direct report seems like the opposite of giving up power and control over him.
Yumi
Fair, but no one said he would be Ruth’s assistant.
Yotomoe
I think that only applies if she has the power to fire him or make him do stuff. He would have to be in a position where saying “no” might have consequences for him. Like if they’re both hired by the School and he’s just assisting Ruth in her duties, it’s not like she’s his BOSS. He’s just working a separate job from her that also assists her.
Needfuldoer
Jason still has the “inappropriate relationship with a student” charge on his record at IU, though. Unless he changes his mind and contests it (which will be an uphill battle, especially after all that time has lapsed), he might be automatically disqualified for any student-facing positions.
Can she do that? At most I could see her maybe recommending Jason for a job but I figured dude would be black listed from working on campus what with the whole boning a student thing.
Yotomoe
Eh, It’d be MIGHTY hypocritical for them to keep Ruth then, wouldn’t it?
Nova
I mean… Ruth is also a student. She’s not in a position to affect anyone’s grades and has essentially no power other than whatever modicum she gets by threatening femurs.
203 thoughts on “Something nice”
Ana Chronistic
oh, gonna commit immigration fraud after all? =p
Clif
Is marriage immigration fraud?
Freezer
Very much so. If they can prove it.
Freezer
It’s why they require you be married X number of years (five, I think).
Segnosaur
I think getting married strictly for citizenship purposes is.
On the other hand the 2 of them did have a pre-existing relationship going back, what, a few weeks at least, and the 2 of them have been seen together holding hand in public, almost living together/sharing her room. It might be a “rushed” marriage but an investigation would probably find enough there to consider it legitimate.
Paradox
Yeah, it’s entirely on INS to prove its a sham marriage
That said, actual native born citizens get deported sometimes, because the entire system is messed up (Judges that preside over immigration cases can be fired for not meeting a quota of cases resolved, they are literally the only Judges in the US this can happen to, this results in a lot of rushed cases, and people fall through the cracks)
Taffy
That’s pretty fucked up. Like, where does this always-been-a-citizen even get deported to? Hopefully someplace that’s friendly to people who’ve been forcibly shipped there.
thejeff
Generally native born citizens only get deported if they’re brown and probably Spanish speaking.
Ana Chronistic
One twin a U.S. Citizen, the other faced deportation: https://kfor.com/news/one-twin-is-a-u-s-citizen-the-other-faces-deportation/
James
Or perhaps just help him get his university job back?
Rabisch
Let’s hope no. Jason is way a better person without that job.
Decidedly Orthogonal
How does his employment status as a T.A. affect his quality as a person? If he’s grown as a person, the job is immaterial, and if he hasn’t, not having the job is like a christian only being good so they can get into heaven.
Ryan
Some jobs bring out the worst in people for a variety of reasons.
Tan
This would be exceedingly counterproductive as regards achieving a relationship where the other partner has free agency. Also I don’t know that Ruth is an American citizen anyway?
thejeff
No reason to think she isn’t.
Ryan
Aside from her being Canadian?
King Daniel
I believe Sir is American if I’m not mistaken—which in turn’d make Ruth’s late mother to also have been American, and Ruth herself a presumable Canadian-American dual citizen.
Taffy
How far down does that go, anyway? Like, if I move to Japan and have a kid, my kid’s American by default, yeah? But if my kid moves to Brazil and has their own kid, is my grandkid also American? And do they have triple citizenship in America, Japan, and Brazil at that point?
I just wanna know if I can set things up for my descendants to have omni-citizenship.
Yumi
Well, for some countries– including Japan, I believe– you have to give up one of those kinds of citizenships at a certain age. So that example wouldn’t work, but I don’t know about others.
Tan
The rules as per the US State Department: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Acquisition-US-Citizenship-Child-Born-Abroad.html
(long story short is that Ruth is probably an American citizen)
Songbird
Some countries don’t really allow for dual citizenship, and a subset of those countries require you to have parents who have citizens of that country to be considered a natural-born citizen in the first place, so it varies. For example, I was born in an American hospital in Germany to American parents (my father was Air Force), and for most of my life I believed I had dual citizenship because that’s what my mother thought and that’s what she told me. Then when I was in college, my German prof informed me that Germany doesn’t really *do* dual citizenship. I looked it up, and it’s true that Deutschland didn’t do dual citizenship for kids born to foreign nationals until about 1997 or so (I was born earlier than that, so I was SOL on that front). Even then, the child in question would have to either default to German citizenship or relinquish it once they turn 23 years of age.
So…yeah.
Inahc
wait, what? my SO and MIL are looking into german citizenship; SO’s grandmother is german, and supposedly that was enough for them to be eligible if she hadn’t hidden the paperwork (which has now been found, along with plenty of other drama).
maybe it’s the “foreign nationals” bit there that matters, and they’re ok with dual citizenship so long as you can prove some ancestor was german…
Inahc
..aha, they do have a few exceptions. “This rule does not apply to Germans who receive the other citizenship by law (e.g. children born in Canada to parents that hold German citizenship at the time of the birth of the child may be dual citizens by law), or…”
Inahc
oh neat, turns out I’m eligible for irish citizenship too, if I ever feel the need for an EU passport again 🙂
Taffy
Well, fuck. There goes my dream of having supercitizen great-great-grandkids. Earth sucks.
darkoneko
Ruth : “ask me what’s wrong”
Raen
…is she proposing? As only she could.
Doctor_Who
Pretty sure that would only help if Jason wanted to live in Canada.
…He would make an interesting addition to the cast of Letterkenny.
Needfuldoer
Clint is her maternal grandfather and he lives within reasonable driving distance, so her mother could’ve been American. That would give her American citizenship by birthright.
darkoneko
or, y’know, finding him a job fitting of that visa ?
Fay
Eh, I think that would be giving Ruth even more power over him, which is what she’s trying to avoid.
Sirksome
How is she gonna solve that work visa problem though? Marry him? Only slightly joking. I don’t think a college RA has much clout in this situation.
The Wellerman
Who knows? She just might make a deal with Asher or something ?
True Survivor
Maybe her grandfather has clout?
Also: Do you think Ruth will survive this timeline? She feels like she is reaching the end of an arc (and when your characters are out of arc – its time to go dark??). I heard she went out like a boss in the last one.
Thag Simmons
I don’t think we’re going to see any (more) major character deaths, and if we do I definitely don’t think Ruth would be one of them.
Sirksome
Yeah, she apparently died in a previous comic. I don’t know for sure I just know some more lore savvy commenters mentioned it. We probably don’t need a rehash of a Ruth death.
Cholma
Yep. She died in Roomies! saving Danny’s life. It’s where the line, “act with integrity, no regrets” comes from.
Oh dear Cheese, I’ve been reading Willis’ stories for a loooong time.
King Daniel
(For those readers who don’t know the context of the publication date, Ruth’s Roomies! death was in or about 1999.)
Liara
March 19 1999, according to the person that posted the original upload dates onto the re-run on itswalky.com
BowlerHatGuy
“Yep. She died in Roomies! saving Danny’s life. It’s where the line, “act with integrity, no regrets” comes from.”
Oh man, that explains so much.
Liara
Fun fact: Ruth has, in real time, been alive in DoA for longer than the time between her death in Roomies! and her DoA (re-)appearance
Wereg
I’m gonna bank on Grandfather Clout pulling Jason another job at the University.
Bicycle Bill
That’s what I was thinking too. The grandfather has enough influence of one form or another to keep her under his thumb, so maybe he’s got other kinds of clout that can be brought to bear to assist Jason with his little problem.
thejeff
Her grandfather has some clout, but it’s hard to imagine Ruth asking him for help.
Bryy
….. welp.
Time to find out just how shitty Jennifer really is. (If she’ll allow it or not)
Taffy
Allow what? She doesn’t even go here.
The Oracle
What authority does Jennifer have over anyone to allow or disallow anything?
Minkey93
Or try and call in a favor with her granddad? A de is bargain. Could work given Jason’s family connections.
Proxiehunter
An RA doesn’t. Sir’s daughter might.
Thag Simmons
Even if he’s in that position, is Ruth willing to request a favour from Clint? Would he be willing to follow through?
Jamie
She’s his granddaughter. And an orphan.
Bryy
He’s made it clear he doesn’t give a shit about either.
Yumi
Maybe she’ll try to get him a job that would allow for his work visa again? I don’t know, but my first thought was “adopt him,” and 1. Don’t think that would work and 2. What.
So I think the job thing is at least more likely than that.
The Wellerman
Re: adoption, solutions to fickle conundrums are like pancakes — the first one is almost always the throw-away ?
Creatrix Tiara
there are very specific criteria that jobs need to follow to qualify for a work visa (H1-B, OPT, whatever Jason is on). It can’t just be any job and has to happen pretty much ASAP. The comic is gonna need to take significant liberties for Ruth’s plan to work.
(my entire life has been governed by visas)
Yumi
Well, sure, that’s why I said “try”– I’d be skeptical of it working. Maybe Jason was reintroduced to get deported. That would kind of suck, honestly.
The Wellerman
It wouldn’t be the first time a character would have to leave the scene because of force mature. Speaking of which, I wonder if Liz will ever make an appearance again.
Bicycle Bill
You mean you don’t think this comic has taken ‘significant liberties’ with things already?
Ana Chronistic
Given his old position was with the college, likely F1 or (less likely) J1
BBCC
He’s on a student visa, not a work visa, which is part of the problem. Not sure what jobs, if any, he’s allowed to have with that one.
Proxiehunter
Nope, according to this strip he has a work visa. And we know her grandfather has enough pull with the college to get people reinstated to positions they shouldn’t be in. So I assume she’s going to try to get his TA job back.
Yumi
I don’t know what type of visa he maybe “should” be on, but according to the words literally in today’s and yesterday’s strips, it’s a work visa.
thejeff
Yeah, that’s just weird.
Creatrix Tiara
You can sort of work on a student visa in the US under the following conditions:
– Just a regular student visa: No more than 20 hours a week on campus for minimum wage
– CPT: Can work during your study but it has to be something related to what you’re studying (so like a paid internship, and this is also how I got a paid job to be my final MFA project)
– OPT: 1 year (18 months for STEM majors) after graduation to work on something related to your degree – you don’t need to already have a job to get this (I did this after my MFA)
A lot of people will try for a H1-B, which is what people tend to think of when they say “work visa”. It needs to be a 3 year job and your company has to sponsor it. There’s actually an issue with Twitter right now because of the sudden layoffs – a lot of people employed there are on H1Bs and if they got caught up in the layoffs they have to scramble to find a new job before they are in breach of visa.
There’s also a billion other visa types but those are the main ones that relate to Jason’s situation.
Yotomoe
I thought maybe something like an RA’s assistant or some position at the campus.
Yumi
The Resident Assistant’s assistant? I like that. Ooo, and then he could get am assistant and it could be assistants all the way down.
Thag Simmons
Giving Jason a position as her direct report seems like the opposite of giving up power and control over him.
Yumi
Fair, but no one said he would be Ruth’s assistant.
Yotomoe
I think that only applies if she has the power to fire him or make him do stuff. He would have to be in a position where saying “no” might have consequences for him. Like if they’re both hired by the School and he’s just assisting Ruth in her duties, it’s not like she’s his BOSS. He’s just working a separate job from her that also assists her.
Needfuldoer
Jason still has the “inappropriate relationship with a student” charge on his record at IU, though. Unless he changes his mind and contests it (which will be an uphill battle, especially after all that time has lapsed), he might be automatically disqualified for any student-facing positions.
Sirksome
Can she do that? At most I could see her maybe recommending Jason for a job but I figured dude would be black listed from working on campus what with the whole boning a student thing.
Yotomoe
Eh, It’d be MIGHTY hypocritical for them to keep Ruth then, wouldn’t it?
Nova
I mean… Ruth is also a student. She’s not in a position to affect anyone’s grades and has essentially no power other than whatever modicum she gets by threatening femurs.
Contextually, there isn’t any hypocrisy here.