Dina is off the hook! She doesn’t use Google safe search, she plays Wii without using the safety strap and she also defends her girlfriend from bad fathers.
I read that as “defends her girlfriend from bad feathers“ and instantly pictured Dina defending Becky from a particularly-ruffled-up cassowary (technically, they are theropods…).
From now on, I will use “bad feather(s)” to refer to angry birds and other dinosaurs of the theropod lineage.
(and if interpreted literally my thought was more along the lines of the toddlers in the Sunday School classes not being as supervised as they should be)
Okay, so, I’ve heard some rumblings about shippin Jacob and Joyce together.
Is that really safe? I mean, Jacob is a great guy, but would Joyce really be able to heal through her issues with a guy who is afraid of his own penis? Sorry, tried to make a joke but that comes off insensitive to people with sex addiction.
On that note: I’ve heard people claiming that Jacob is Asexual? Where does THAT come from? Willis has said, repeatedly, that despite other things being different one of the key things that stay the same between the dumbiverse and the walkyverse is Sexuality, in which case Jacob is on the other extremeof the libido market, he’s a sex addict…
Okay, fair enough, poor choice of words by someone uneducated, but the sentiment stays, in the walkyverse he basically ruined his own life for quite a while by shtupping any woman willing for quite a long while. And the attraction was there too.
Jason
Sex addiction is not remotely to do with sexuality. SP!Jacob had an addictive personality and a deeply rooted tendency to self-sabotage. We haven’t seen any signs of either from him here.
But otherwise, he is indeed not asexual. He is (presumably) heterosexual.
I don’t agree with BBCC. I think a lack of libido would be included, although perhaps not necessary, in most definitons of asexuality. There are other terms, such as aromantic, to cover for more specific aspects (which may or may not be inclusive of libido).
moo
Seconded – asexuality is diverse. AVEN (the Asexuality Visibility & Education Network) explains: “An asexual is someone who does not experience sexual attraction […] For some sexual arousal is a fairly regular occurrence, though it is not associated with a desire to find a sexual partner or partners. Some will occasionally masturbate, but feel no desire for partnered sexuality. Other asexual people experience little or no arousal […] Asexuality is like any other identity- at its core, it’s just a word that people use to help figure themselves out.” There is also “grey asexuality” for the wide world of further intricacies.
BBCC
You would be wrong. Most people define asexuality as someone who does not experience sexual attraction or only experiences it weakly or at certain times. Libido or sexual arousal has nothing to do with that. Someone without a libido might id as asexual they might not. In the same way, someone who is asexual might have any level of libido, as moo said.
Also aromantic means the same thing as asexual but with romantic attraction, not sexual attraction.
Willinwoods
I see your point, but I still find it quite a bit of a stretch to say that (lack of) libido has NOTHING to do with (a)sexuality.
BBCC
It really doesn’t. A lot of people with low libido don’t ID as ace and a lot of ace people don’t have low libidos. Those are two separate things. Sure, a lot of folks with low libido will ID as ace, but not everybody does.
huh. Funny thing, last line of the post, “no Sex addiction. Maybe when he’s like 25, so at least not within the comic’s timeframe” (Paraphrased). It MAY still happen to him, just when he is older, maintaining the “Sexual hijinks are contant between universes”.
As I understand it, sex addiction isn’t a sexuality per se, and I believe Willis is on record as stating on his tumblr that Jacob’s wait-for-the-long-term stance in this ‘verse is an attempt to steer in the opposite direction from Jacob’s sex-addict depiction in the Walkyverse.
Jacob’s sexuality has been addressed nearby in tonight’s comments.
I’m an on-again, off-again Jacob/Joyce shipper. And between yesterday’s strip and today’s, I’m off again.
I liked that, when Jacob said, “tell me how you really feel,” and Joyce said “It was fine,” and then Jacob said, “Joyce.” And he was clearly seeking seeking honesty.
And then she gave him an honest answer. And his response was not to acknowledge her honest answer, but to try to persuade her that, maybe her answer might have been wrong?
To me, Jacob’s behavior over this story arc has been less about him caring for Joyce and more about him trying to bring her into his worship community. And these two things are not incompatible — from Jacob’s point of view, they are totally compatible — but at the moment, Jacob seems to be more about “can she become comfortable being part of my community,” and less about “can I become comfortable being part of her community.”
Also, he seems to think that the fact that his church welcomes people like Becky automatically makes his church the only obvious choice for people like Joyce. It’s not a binary choice. Bad Jacob, no cookie. (And at least for now, no Joyce.)
And only now am I flashing on when Dorothy and Walky were introducing Joyce to “Dexter and Monkey Master” and saying “Isn’t this awesome?” and Joyce was like, “Yes this is awesome!” and it wasn’t like they had to persuade her how awesome it was.
If you have to work to persuade a new friend that something is awesome, and that person’s response is polite but not enthusiastic, maybe it’s not awesome to that person, and maybe you should accept that, and maybe accept the fact that your new friend doesn’t necessarily share your enthusiasm but might still be okay as a friend.
And yes, I know that the previous paragraph is gibberish to Walky. But I was expecting more from Jacob.
Geno
I think Becky cleared that up for him a lot more clearly than Joyce ever could. I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a similar experience where Joyce and Becky take Jacob out of his comfort zone. Though I doubt he freaks out like since that not really how Jacob does things.
262 thoughts on “Structured”
Doctor_Who
“Do you not like dimetrodons, little girl? I know, I bet pterodactyls are your favorite dinosaurs!”
His head was later found three miles away in a tree.
Jay Eff
“Excuse me, did you call for a manager?”
“Yes, this human head was in your tree’s branches.”
Delicious Taffy
Is the joke that humans are related to trees the same way a dimetrodon is related to a dinosaur?
butts
Humans are more closely related to dimetrodon than dinosaurs are.
Reltzik
And dimetrodons, humans, dinosaurs, and pterodactyls are more closely related to each other than to trees.
….
…. you know, since the conversation branched out that way.
podian
That pun was so bad, I dino whether to laugh or cry.
Leon
One more pun and I may have to leaf.
whitt
I love you all.
Never change.
Reltzik
Change is a sign of enthusiasm.
Change is another word for “up and autumn”.
King Daniel
I think you winter pun contest.
thejeff
I dunno. Someone might be able to spring a surprise contender on us.
laurenh
Well yes, summer you are awfully clever.
(Sorry, rather poor but it felt incomplete without finishing off the seasons!)
Br44n5m
I will not fall for your tricks!
Ana Chronistic
“also this QUETZALCOATLUS”
Mr D
Ohhh Snapo, somebody is taking Ana’s number one place!
Cheshrin
Figures it would be the time traveler.
Plasma Mongoose
Do dragons count as dinosaurs?
Reltzik
No, varanids are part of Squamata, not Saurischia or Ornithischia.
….
*flees before anyone realizes he’s just cribbing from Wikipedia*
Gamaran Sepudomyn
Yes, if we’re talking Yi qi.
Mada
Oh that’s a familiar outfit right there..
King Daniel
Is that the best she could do for her outfit, though?
UltraKyrie
…is crapping on the sofa something Becky’s regularly witnessed?
King Daniel
Joyce’s family dog, probably.
Doctor_Who
Or maybe Ross is somehow even worse than we thought.
Yumi
I bet he did it just to spite Carol.
What a good boy.
Tacos
The best pupper of all time.
Jason
I thought this was a reply to the comment above, and that Ross was pooping on sofas to spite Carol…
Yumi
Ross is not a good boy.
Jamie
This is also the question foremost in my mind…
Ragnarok101
Becky is great.
In related news, water is wet.
Doctor_Who
And is extremely relevant news, dimetrodons are not dinosaurs.
Plasma Mongoose
It’s the dinosaur you have when you don’t have a dinosaur.
Danni
hunter!
Danni
i name manager guy hunter!
Yumi
Man, I wish we could all have a wild maverick girlfriend like Becky does.
Rambling Idiot
Dina is off the hook! She doesn’t use Google safe search, she plays Wii without using the safety strap and she also defends her girlfriend from bad fathers.
King Daniel
I read that as “defends her girlfriend from bad feathers“ and instantly pictured Dina defending Becky from a particularly-ruffled-up cassowary (technically, they are theropods…).
From now on, I will use “bad feather(s)” to refer to angry birds and other dinosaurs of the theropod lineage.
boop
i thought synapsids were the things that make movie virtual reality work
that or a doctor who species
Doctor_Who
I can neither confirm nor deny that.
Shiro
Silurians?
DinaWho
The hot mess that is the naming history of the Silurians would drive Dina up a wall.
Shiro
…do…do people tend to crap on the sofa at your church, Becky? I am concern.
Mollyscribbles
they ended up investing in a steam cleaner; it was more cost-effective in the long run.
Mollyscribbles
(and if interpreted literally my thought was more along the lines of the toddlers in the Sunday School classes not being as supervised as they should be)
BBCC
Dina, don’t be a butt.
otusasio451
Is this the first time we’ve seen Dina in the OG khaki outfit?
Danni
yup afaik
Marsh Maryrose
And the encounter is clearly taking place in an SP!-compatible setting. A Willisverse trifecta!
(On the downside, Soggies may rule.)
Mr D
Okay, so, I’ve heard some rumblings about shippin Jacob and Joyce together.
Is that really safe? I mean, Jacob is a great guy, but would Joyce really be able to heal through her issues with a guy who is afraid of his own penis? Sorry, tried to make a joke but that comes off insensitive to people with sex addiction.
On that note: I’ve heard people claiming that Jacob is Asexual? Where does THAT come from? Willis has said, repeatedly, that despite other things being different one of the key things that stay the same between the dumbiverse and the walkyverse is Sexuality, in which case Jacob is on the other extremeof the libido market, he’s a sex addict…
BBCC
Asexuality has nothing to do with libido. It has to do with attraction.
Mr D
Okay, fair enough, poor choice of words by someone uneducated, but the sentiment stays, in the walkyverse he basically ruined his own life for quite a while by shtupping any woman willing for quite a long while. And the attraction was there too.
Jason
Sex addiction is not remotely to do with sexuality. SP!Jacob had an addictive personality and a deeply rooted tendency to self-sabotage. We haven’t seen any signs of either from him here.
But otherwise, he is indeed not asexual. He is (presumably) heterosexual.
Willinwoods
I don’t agree with BBCC. I think a lack of libido would be included, although perhaps not necessary, in most definitons of asexuality. There are other terms, such as aromantic, to cover for more specific aspects (which may or may not be inclusive of libido).
moo
Seconded – asexuality is diverse. AVEN (the Asexuality Visibility & Education Network) explains: “An asexual is someone who does not experience sexual attraction […] For some sexual arousal is a fairly regular occurrence, though it is not associated with a desire to find a sexual partner or partners. Some will occasionally masturbate, but feel no desire for partnered sexuality. Other asexual people experience little or no arousal […] Asexuality is like any other identity- at its core, it’s just a word that people use to help figure themselves out.” There is also “grey asexuality” for the wide world of further intricacies.
BBCC
You would be wrong. Most people define asexuality as someone who does not experience sexual attraction or only experiences it weakly or at certain times. Libido or sexual arousal has nothing to do with that. Someone without a libido might id as asexual they might not. In the same way, someone who is asexual might have any level of libido, as moo said.
Also aromantic means the same thing as asexual but with romantic attraction, not sexual attraction.
Willinwoods
I see your point, but I still find it quite a bit of a stretch to say that (lack of) libido has NOTHING to do with (a)sexuality.
BBCC
It really doesn’t. A lot of people with low libido don’t ID as ace and a lot of ace people don’t have low libidos. Those are two separate things. Sure, a lot of folks with low libido will ID as ace, but not everybody does.
Shiro
Word of Willis is that in this universe, Jacob is not a sex addict, he just believes in waiting til marriage (and so is avoiding casual stuff).
No idea about the second bit, but headcanons happen.
Yumi
Willis has also said that Jacob in this universe ISN’T a sex addict, soooo…
Mr D
What really? Where?
Yumi
Still looking for the exact comment, but you can also refer to this comic:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/sniffing/
Yumi
Okay, found it:
http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/81366789633/dumbing-of-age-the-new-normal-let-me-tell-you-a
Mr D
huh. Funny thing, last line of the post, “no Sex addiction. Maybe when he’s like 25, so at least not within the comic’s timeframe” (Paraphrased). It MAY still happen to him, just when he is older, maintaining the “Sexual hijinks are contant between universes”.
Holdinglines
Mm, fair enough point. But libido and sexuality aren’t necessarily an either/or thing. You can have a sex drive while not wanting sex.
King Daniel
As I understand it, sex addiction isn’t a sexuality per se, and I believe Willis is on record as stating on his tumblr that Jacob’s wait-for-the-long-term stance in this ‘verse is an attempt to steer in the opposite direction from Jacob’s sex-addict depiction in the Walkyverse.
Mr D
An attempt by Willis? Or Jacob? Not trying to be coy here, actual question.
King Daniel
By Willis, sorry if that wasn’t clear. I’ll try to rustle up the exact tumblr post as soon as I’m able.
Marsh Maryrose
Jacob’s sexuality has been addressed nearby in tonight’s comments.
I’m an on-again, off-again Jacob/Joyce shipper. And between yesterday’s strip and today’s, I’m off again.
I liked that, when Jacob said, “tell me how you really feel,” and Joyce said “It was fine,” and then Jacob said, “Joyce.” And he was clearly seeking seeking honesty.
And then she gave him an honest answer. And his response was not to acknowledge her honest answer, but to try to persuade her that, maybe her answer might have been wrong?
To me, Jacob’s behavior over this story arc has been less about him caring for Joyce and more about him trying to bring her into his worship community. And these two things are not incompatible — from Jacob’s point of view, they are totally compatible — but at the moment, Jacob seems to be more about “can she become comfortable being part of my community,” and less about “can I become comfortable being part of her community.”
Also, he seems to think that the fact that his church welcomes people like Becky automatically makes his church the only obvious choice for people like Joyce. It’s not a binary choice. Bad Jacob, no cookie. (And at least for now, no Joyce.)
Marsh Maryrose
And only now am I flashing on when Dorothy and Walky were introducing Joyce to “Dexter and Monkey Master” and saying “Isn’t this awesome?” and Joyce was like, “Yes this is awesome!” and it wasn’t like they had to persuade her how awesome it was.
If you have to work to persuade a new friend that something is awesome, and that person’s response is polite but not enthusiastic, maybe it’s not awesome to that person, and maybe you should accept that, and maybe accept the fact that your new friend doesn’t necessarily share your enthusiasm but might still be okay as a friend.
And yes, I know that the previous paragraph is gibberish to Walky. But I was expecting more from Jacob.
Geno
I think Becky cleared that up for him a lot more clearly than Joyce ever could. I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a similar experience where Joyce and Becky take Jacob out of his comfort zone. Though I doubt he freaks out like since that not really how Jacob does things.