Do ceilings count as walls? i’ve been watching ghosts cbs and in that they can “go through the wall but not fall through the floor” (but still able to sit on furniture but can’t interact with other objects unless theyh ave a specific ‘power’ to interact with the world that way lol)
Imagine if it was someone’s dorm room and she ended up barging into another room of a couple having sex anyways XD
I figure it depends. A ghost probably can go through the floor if they want to, but they’re too attached to the idea of floors working like floors to manage it very often. Same with chairs: when a ghost wants to walk through a chair, that’s one thing; when a ghost approaches a chair as a chair with the intent of sitting down in it, that’s another.
Ghosts aren’t subject to gravity. They float. People on the Enterprise who are “out of phase” are, so it’s hilarious that they can walk through walls but not fall through the floor.
Ryan
I’ve had trouble grocking that in the past. However, the ship does not have gravity. It has gravity plating that magically attracts whatever is above it at about 1G, but does not attract through the ceiling to the next floor. So, the phased characters are attracted to the gravity plates in the floor but no farther. None of which really holds up to scrutiny since it defies physics. Plus, different writers had different conceptualizations from episode to episode, season to season, and series to series. And the science advisors, once they had they, hand waved artificial gravity since it was dictated by the nature of shooting the shows in a gravity well.
anon
@ eh : i guess it depensd, the ghosts in the specific show/series i was talking about doesn’t rly having them ‘levitating/floating’ or so versus just walking through doors (but they still need sleep. or at least choose to b/c i guess if you’re around for 100 years you wouldn’t wanna be awake every moment or so)
i’d like to think someone years ago added that and it’s a known secret for ppl who wanna make exists like these, as opposed to amber/amazigirl installing them herself
But the cheap drop in ceilings aren’t really something you can crawl in – the panels won’t hold your weight and I don’t think even the supports really will.
Steamweed
Depends on the state’s building codes. In mine, in one of the schools I worked in, yeah, a 200# adult could crawl around up in there safely enough, as long as care was taken.
(speakin’ from very dirty and dusty personal experience)
I mean it is a webcomic but it would be amusing yet concerning if it was basedo n the real example/college of something like this happening, if there aren’t ‘quirky’ colleges trying to be extra weird on purpose
It’s common (and easy to install). Mind you Mythbusters proved that ceiling and duct access is far from sneaky. But of course, AmaziGirl is prepared for anything!
When I was in high school, my piano teacher told me that she used to have a cat who would go through the unfinished storage room to get on top of those ceiling tiles, and explore around in the ceiling, and that one day, during a lesson, she suddenly came crashing down from inside the ceiling, and upon landing on the ground, nonchalantly said “meow” and just walked away like it was no big deal.
We had three cats, which were feral cats my parents (mostly my mom) took in before I was born. They took a very long time to adjust to being house cats– all at different rates, too. Anyway, they mostly lived in our basement, and people could come to our house to feed them and such when we were out of town and never end up seeing a single cat.
And they frequently hung out in the basement ceiling. There was a main way they entered through, an opening by the basement window in my play area. They’d take a running start, jump on a sofa, and jump up the wall into the ceiling.
True Survivor
Those were great stories. Thank you guys for sharing.
I’m reminded of the Mythbusters episode where they were testing the actual difficulty of herding cats, and ended up having to cut a hole in one of the shop walls to extract a cat from inside it.
It depends, but I mean, depending on how the duct work’s done, someone had to go in there at some point. A friend of mine used to work in building material sourcing, and sometimes got roped into going into walls and ceilings because they are 5’1. Built not unlike Amber, too, for that matter, but not as muscular, so probably a fair bit lighter.
Booster is the kind of person that just gets off on drama, feeds off of it, a Jerry Springer with a psychology degree. They see a car crash about to happen and they just have to rubber neck.
Amber just leaped through a hole in the ceiling to escape the conversation. They may not think of what they’re doing as “weaponization”, but it absolutely is.
Booster likes messes, and likes pushing buttons, but all things equal, I don’t think they ultimately want serious damage. It didn’t take long for them to show legitimate concern about Ethan’s situation, and they did express remorse the last time they seriously pissed Amber off and crossed too many boundaries even for Amber to tolerate. Booster’s more terminally smug than dangerous.
Yeahhhh, the excitement gives “I understood you! Did you see how I got it? Yay, I’m having an interaction with someone I’m understanding!” right before y’know. Fumbling hardcore. I OOF’d irl and all
I would genuinely be surprised if that were the case since they’re roommates with Walky who is clearly going through A Hell Of A Time dealing with his roommate’s death.
Bruno
There are fish with more developed empathy than Booster.
sea salt ice cream sequel
idk I feel like them talking to Ethan about not going to classes & kind of helping him to get out more again was pretty empathetic? they’re also generally nice to Walky (including being careful around Mike’s death).
I get hating on a character, whatever, but at least be correct with your blanket statements!
Dante
Walky famously doesn’t like talking about Mike, or his feelings in general; and by the time second semester started, bringing Booster along, it had been several months since the murder/kidnapping.
It wasn’t even the first kidnapping in those dorms. And everyone was pre-traumatized before the start of college anyway :’DD
396 thoughts on “Temerity”
NGPZ
she’s in the walls…
SHE’S IN THE GODDAMN WALLS!!! XD
anon
Do ceilings count as walls? i’ve been watching ghosts cbs and in that they can “go through the wall but not fall through the floor” (but still able to sit on furniture but can’t interact with other objects unless theyh ave a specific ‘power’ to interact with the world that way lol)
Imagine if it was someone’s dorm room and she ended up barging into another room of a couple having sex anyways XD
Reltzik
They’re like walls…. on their sides!
(This revelation should leave you totally floored.)
Ed Callahan
We’re going to have to put a ceiling on the puns.
Steamweed
Was gonna say “I ceiling what you did there” but yours is better!
jflb96
I figure it depends. A ghost probably can go through the floor if they want to, but they’re too attached to the idea of floors working like floors to manage it very often. Same with chairs: when a ghost wants to walk through a chair, that’s one thing; when a ghost approaches a chair as a chair with the intent of sitting down in it, that’s another.
eh, whatever
Ghosts aren’t subject to gravity. They float. People on the Enterprise who are “out of phase” are, so it’s hilarious that they can walk through walls but not fall through the floor.
Ryan
I’ve had trouble grocking that in the past. However, the ship does not have gravity. It has gravity plating that magically attracts whatever is above it at about 1G, but does not attract through the ceiling to the next floor. So, the phased characters are attracted to the gravity plates in the floor but no farther. None of which really holds up to scrutiny since it defies physics. Plus, different writers had different conceptualizations from episode to episode, season to season, and series to series. And the science advisors, once they had they, hand waved artificial gravity since it was dictated by the nature of shooting the shows in a gravity well.
anon
@ eh : i guess it depensd, the ghosts in the specific show/series i was talking about doesn’t rly having them ‘levitating/floating’ or so versus just walking through doors (but they still need sleep. or at least choose to b/c i guess if you’re around for 100 years you wouldn’t wanna be awake every moment or so)
True Survivor
That entire clip from “Blark and Son” fits this scenario weirdly well, if we are being honest.
anon
i’d like to think someone years ago added that and it’s a known secret for ppl who wanna make exists like these, as opposed to amber/amazigirl installing them herself
Sirksome
The ceilings have panels?
Thag Simmons
I feel like cheap panel ceilings are the classic look of most school environments.
Needfuldoer
They’re easier to replace when they’re inevitably damaged by college student shenanigans.
thejeff
But the cheap drop in ceilings aren’t really something you can crawl in – the panels won’t hold your weight and I don’t think even the supports really will.
Steamweed
Depends on the state’s building codes. In mine, in one of the schools I worked in, yeah, a 200# adult could crawl around up in there safely enough, as long as care was taken.
(speakin’ from very dirty and dusty personal experience)
Golden Yak
The Amazi-utility belt includes a hand-saw.
anon
I mean it is a webcomic but it would be amusing yet concerning if it was basedo n the real example/college of something like this happening, if there aren’t ‘quirky’ colleges trying to be extra weird on purpose
Mako
Its common in buildings with sheetrock ceilings
Dante
Ceiling Cat meme comes to mind :’3
John Campbell
They do now.
DaveM
It’s common (and easy to install). Mind you Mythbusters proved that ceiling and duct access is far from sneaky. But of course, AmaziGirl is prepared for anything!
Yumi
She reminds me of my childhood cats.
True Survivor
They sound great. Would you mind sharing a story about them?
Durandal_1707
When I was in high school, my piano teacher told me that she used to have a cat who would go through the unfinished storage room to get on top of those ceiling tiles, and explore around in the ceiling, and that one day, during a lesson, she suddenly came crashing down from inside the ceiling, and upon landing on the ground, nonchalantly said “meow” and just walked away like it was no big deal.
Yumi
We had three cats, which were feral cats my parents (mostly my mom) took in before I was born. They took a very long time to adjust to being house cats– all at different rates, too. Anyway, they mostly lived in our basement, and people could come to our house to feed them and such when we were out of town and never end up seeing a single cat.
And they frequently hung out in the basement ceiling. There was a main way they entered through, an opening by the basement window in my play area. They’d take a running start, jump on a sofa, and jump up the wall into the ceiling.
True Survivor
Those were great stories. Thank you guys for sharing.
John Campbell
I’m reminded of the Mythbusters episode where they were testing the actual difficulty of herding cats, and ended up having to cut a hole in one of the shop walls to extract a cat from inside it.
Thag Simmons
Haha, of course the ceiling would be that shitty panel construction.
Thag Simmons
I don’t think ceilings would support a person’s weight.
Mako
Could be sheetrock with an access door
DailyBrad
It depends, but I mean, depending on how the duct work’s done, someone had to go in there at some point. A friend of mine used to work in building material sourcing, and sometimes got roped into going into walls and ceilings because they are 5’1. Built not unlike Amber, too, for that matter, but not as muscular, so probably a fair bit lighter.
BarerMender
If you stay on the ceiling joists, they’ll hold your weight perfectly well.
Clif
You have to be careful, but it’s doable.
Don’t ask me how I know.
Tawnee
Appropriate gravatar is appropriate.
HueSatLight
Maybe there’s cable trays for networking cables.
Steamweed
Depends on the age of the building. That university dorm…maybe.
ZombieKyrik
That’s actually impressive that she can jump up, and climb through the ceiling panels without any assistance.
I love Amazi-Girl keeps their body trained for defense and vigilante justice, while Amber takes advantage of this to escape her life.
anon
it’d be hilarious if she had something in her pocket that we just didn’t see that made the ceiling tile come apart while booster was talking
Doctor_Who
Or she keeps a grappling hook secreted about her person.
MeghanTheDreamCrusher
I like that Willis didn’t bother to draw the other ceiling panels, it makes it look like Amber is escaping through a portal to the square dimension.
Dara
Ceiling hamster is writing fic about you masturbating
Opus the Poet
{grins} Only when ceiling cat stops chasing it {/grins}
Effie
is writing fic about you, and is masturbating
Steamweed
is masturbating about you writing fic
darkoneko
woah.
Clif
Once again Booster is proven accurate.
Animedingo
Thats pocket sand level tech
Needfuldoer
SH-SHAA!!!
JessWitt
Seems as good a time as any to reenact Die Hard.
Nono
Is Booster psychopathic, or just excited by the idea of knowing one?
Queen Anthai
Either way, not a good look.
Rowen Morland
While the fourth panel payoff is good for us, Booster WTH?!!
Scruffy looking nerfherder
Booster is the kind of person that just gets off on drama, feeds off of it, a Jerry Springer with a psychology degree. They see a car crash about to happen and they just have to rubber neck.
John Campbell
They don’t even have a psychology degree. They’re just a random douchenozzle who weaponizes being good at reading people.
Nymph
Reporting for misgendering, Booster’s pronouns are they/them!
Looney
that seems pretty extreme. i don’t think they’re weaponizing anything. i think they’re just an overzealous teenager.
John Campbell
Amber just leaped through a hole in the ceiling to escape the conversation. They may not think of what they’re doing as “weaponization”, but it absolutely is.
See also: The floor meeting.
better time
We call that, “being a horrible person”
And booster definitly is one.
DailyBrad
Booster likes messes, and likes pushing buttons, but all things equal, I don’t think they ultimately want serious damage. It didn’t take long for them to show legitimate concern about Ethan’s situation, and they did express remorse the last time they seriously pissed Amber off and crossed too many boundaries even for Amber to tolerate. Booster’s more terminally smug than dangerous.
Thag Simmons
terminally smug can sometimes be dangerous.
Dante
Yeahhhh, the excitement gives “I understood you! Did you see how I got it? Yay, I’m having an interaction with someone I’m understanding!” right before y’know. Fumbling hardcore. I OOF’d irl and all
Charles Phipps
I think Booster is not aware how deeply damaged and traumatized the cast is.
She just assumes it is a dorm full of normal drama and not kidnappings or murders.
Charles Phipps
Dammit, They!
I am so sorry.
Nymph
Appreciate you correcting yourself! Would love to see more of this from other people misgendering them ?
Bysmerian
I would genuinely be surprised if that were the case since they’re roommates with Walky who is clearly going through A Hell Of A Time dealing with his roommate’s death.
Bruno
There are fish with more developed empathy than Booster.
sea salt ice cream sequel
idk I feel like them talking to Ethan about not going to classes & kind of helping him to get out more again was pretty empathetic? they’re also generally nice to Walky (including being careful around Mike’s death).
I get hating on a character, whatever, but at least be correct with your blanket statements!
Dante
Walky famously doesn’t like talking about Mike, or his feelings in general; and by the time second semester started, bringing Booster along, it had been several months since the murder/kidnapping.
It wasn’t even the first kidnapping in those dorms. And everyone was pre-traumatized before the start of college anyway :’DD
GreyICE
Booster is Mike 2.0
Steamweed