Sarah and Ethan should exchange roommates, at least for a while… four DoA characters would be all the happier for it, and Mr. Willis would get two new SlipShine episodes, from this very universe.
I can’t imagine any sexual situation between Ethan and Joyce that doesn’t end in screaming, tears, awkwardness, murder/suicide, or some combination of the above.
nkh
Hey, some people are into extreme awkwardness-driven murder-suicides, don’t judge.
JepMZ
Sounds like that terrible Future Diary manga I was reading. The sci fi is so cool, but the main character relationship is so bad
“Terrible”? O_o
Awkwardness-driven massacre is three halves of the reasons for Mirai Nikki.
TachyonCode
If by “bad” you mean “scary and realistic in how psychologically unhinged/damaged the two of them are” then yeah, sure. If you ask me, their relationship is deliciously abnormal, abnormally delicious, and downright well-written, and damn near redeems everything that might otherwise break suspension of disbelief in that series.
anonymous
I checked it out. If it’s anything like the online manga, it would seem the anime is far superior.
Oooh, I didn’t think about that – my idea was more like an Ethan & Joyce & Jacob threesome.
But I agree, Sarah (and her mechanical phallus) may feel a bit left out, then…
Aydr
I think an Ethan/Sarah/Jacob threesome would make more sense than involving Joyce.
Kai
But Sarah and Jacob can work that out just perfectly alone. Ethan would pretty much be redundant in that setting.
Ethan and Joyce on the other hand need someone as “catalyzer” – and Joyce would learn a lot more. 😉
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You know, in this universe, I don’t think we’ve actually been given much evidence of Ethan being a good person. (I admit this view may be coloured by my utter eye-rolling boredness with the other universe Ethan.)
begbert2
Define “good person”. I mean, if the standard of goodness requires beating up/taking down villians, then the only people who qualify are Amazi-girl, Sarah, Malaya/Marcie/Carla, maybe Danny and arguably Dina. (Huh. Longer list than I expected.) By a more normal standard of goodness, Ethan gets a lot of credit for not meaning any harm, and for not doing anything that’s likely to harm anyone but himself and maybe Joyce, who is both asking for it and complicit. And by refusing Joyce’s advances here, he’s actually doing her a favor: trying to use him as her lust toy would *not* work out well. So yeah. By my read he’s a good person. Just badly misguided and having a bad idea of what he should be doing in his life and relationships.
Rabid Rabbit
Hmm. On the other hand, he would be doing much more of a favour by breaking up with her, or for that matter with never trying to go out with her in the first place. Not intending harm is not the same thing as not doing harm; I’m willing to see characters as neutral, but I think I need a bit more active getting around to doing something decent to go so far as to qualify a character as “good”. Feeling mildly worried about Amber isn’t quite enough; the fact that his chances of helping Amber are fairly clearly wounded by his leading Joyce on (however open Joyce might think her eyes were going into this) isn’t doing him any favours.
Lankin the Mad Mage
It might not be super-awesome and hero-level goodness, but we havehad scenes where Ethan shows he cares about others and tries to do what’s good for them, like in te beginning where he and Mike were concerned about Amber’s severe computer-addiction and did an intervention where they literally dragged her out of her room just so she could get some fredh air and hopefully not miss out on having a life in college.
And later when he needed some guidance I seem to recall (but I could be wrong) he said he was reticent about going to Amber about it, because she had already helped himmagainst his horrible parents all summer, so he didn’t want to dump more stuff on her.
So despite being flawed like any human, he //has// shown that he has some good sides, that he cares about others and tries to do wht’s best for his friends. He’s just desperate and confused right now, having problems accepting himself, his parents hate who he turned out to be (which people often forget can be utterly devastating when you’re that young), and he feels these urges are ruining his whole life.
So sure, he’s making bad choices. Who doesn’t? At least he’s shown he wants to do hat’s best for those he cares about. Might not be impressivee but it’s enough to land him as “good guy” in my book.
Rabid Rabbit
Technically, Mike dragged her out of her chair. Ethan just stood by. Which essentially defines him: he stands by and then fits in to whatever last happened that he had nothing to do with. So still understandably passive, but not praiseworthily so.
Jody
Wait, are we forgetting that he wants to “date” Joyce as well? Remember, he said he wanted to be normal, he didn’t want to be the gay kid cause it’s too hard.
Joyce is fighting her trauma as well by ignoring it and jumping into a relationship that requires little to no physicality on her end cause she’s scared and confused by it. (her assault did not help, probably, maybe)
They’re both hurting/using each other. And I think they both kind of know it. Good or bad are kind of simplistic terms to be using in this instance because they’re both in this thing for “grey” reasons.
Rabid Rabbit
In this one case, certainly, he’s co-opted. But his whole pattern of behaviour doesn’t make anything better. There’s a limit to how many times he gets to mess things up “just because he’s confused” (or whatever) and still count as a good person. At what point do his decisions start dragging the balance towards negative results before we stop assuming he’s a nice guy?
214 thoughts on “Tonguing”
Mr. Random
I sense a running gag.
Maveric1984
Except you can’t see his butt…
Ahighfunctioningsociopath
1/0?
anonymous
Undefined.
Ivan
Ethan has a built in proctoscope!
Cheryl
HAWT DAM!
Jen Aside
ZOMG GLASSES
Hottest man in the Universe
-JAD-
Sarah and Ethan should exchange roommates, at least for a while… four DoA characters would be all the happier for it, and Mr. Willis would get two new SlipShine episodes, from this very universe.
Maybe as a (wet) dream sequence?
Beachfox
I can’t imagine any sexual situation between Ethan and Joyce that doesn’t end in screaming, tears, awkwardness, murder/suicide, or some combination of the above.
nkh
Hey, some people are into extreme awkwardness-driven murder-suicides, don’t judge.
JepMZ
Sounds like that terrible Future Diary manga I was reading. The sci fi is so cool, but the main character relationship is so bad
biggo
“Terrible”? O_o
Awkwardness-driven massacre is three halves of the reasons for Mirai Nikki.
TachyonCode
If by “bad” you mean “scary and realistic in how psychologically unhinged/damaged the two of them are” then yeah, sure. If you ask me, their relationship is deliciously abnormal, abnormally delicious, and downright well-written, and damn near redeems everything that might otherwise break suspension of disbelief in that series.
anonymous
I checked it out. If it’s anything like the online manga, it would seem the anime is far superior.
Ivan
@nkh
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THREAD WINNER!
UnspeakableAnger
So… There’s a KickStarter somewhere for this?
Joe
I’d subscribe to Slipshine for that.
Plasma Mongoose
A Jacob/Joyce Slipshine? Well I do like my porn with awkardly funny moments, so…
Leorale
Aww, I feel like Jacob would be super kind and considerate.
MissQuinn
He IS looking for a relationship…
Alopex
Amber’s mom sure seemed to think so!
insomniac
Amber’s Mom has Got It Going On
saltchocolate
Ha ha, Plasma! Seriously, Sarah could hold up that dorm room door just as well as Ethan’s doing it now…
CianM1301
If she knew what was currently behind it, she’d rip the door off of its hinges, and probably Ethan’s arms to get to it.
Kai
Oooh, I didn’t think about that – my idea was more like an Ethan & Joyce & Jacob threesome.
But I agree, Sarah (and her mechanical phallus) may feel a bit left out, then…
Aydr
I think an Ethan/Sarah/Jacob threesome would make more sense than involving Joyce.
Kai
But Sarah and Jacob can work that out just perfectly alone. Ethan would pretty much be redundant in that setting.
Ethan and Joyce on the other hand need someone as “catalyzer” – and Joyce would learn a lot more. 😉
Wonder Wig
Batman is apparently afraid of the dark.
Beachfox
Jesus, Jacob. Now you’re doing it on purpose!
Yotomoe
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Beachfox
Dammit, stop reading my private Jacob/Ethan fanfics! Those are private!
MissQuinn
Before or after he “Accidentally” catches his shirt on the door handle and it rips off?
Shade
“I always need a little help with my back though.”
Nono
“And my butt. Pay extra attention to my butt.”
Vex Godglove
So much for that plan
Dave
Ethan’s pants in the final panel are much less tented than I expected.
Em
Fast use of the belt trick.
Maveric1984
He’s gotten good at flexing his thigh muscles to make boners go away.
EvilPenguin
It’s a cartoon, no one actually has penises
Doctor_Who
There’s a Slipshine comic that would disagree with you on whether or not that applies to this cast.
Harry
You don’t even have to Slipshine. Walky points it at things.
Gigafreak
O rly.
AgentKeen
Don’t forget the strip that named ‘Just Hangin’ Out With My Family’
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/dont-button/
Tacdud2
Dump her. There are better options.
dailybrad
For a beard? Nope. That’s sadly all he is looking for, and it’s not something that will last for either one of them.
They’re both good people doing a VERY shitty thing.
Yotomoe
He needs to wean off the beards. Next girl should be a moustache.
nekobawt
preferably a (also closeted) mustache rider. that way they can be co-beards!
Kai
Y’know … these days there are possibilities:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Wurst
Ivan
Bleaches only the front, top 4 teeth?
I’m pleased to note that thing is NOT using EV microphones!
Rabid Rabbit
You know, in this universe, I don’t think we’ve actually been given much evidence of Ethan being a good person. (I admit this view may be coloured by my utter eye-rolling boredness with the other universe Ethan.)
begbert2
Define “good person”. I mean, if the standard of goodness requires beating up/taking down villians, then the only people who qualify are Amazi-girl, Sarah, Malaya/Marcie/Carla, maybe Danny and arguably Dina. (Huh. Longer list than I expected.) By a more normal standard of goodness, Ethan gets a lot of credit for not meaning any harm, and for not doing anything that’s likely to harm anyone but himself and maybe Joyce, who is both asking for it and complicit. And by refusing Joyce’s advances here, he’s actually doing her a favor: trying to use him as her lust toy would *not* work out well. So yeah. By my read he’s a good person. Just badly misguided and having a bad idea of what he should be doing in his life and relationships.
Rabid Rabbit
Hmm. On the other hand, he would be doing much more of a favour by breaking up with her, or for that matter with never trying to go out with her in the first place. Not intending harm is not the same thing as not doing harm; I’m willing to see characters as neutral, but I think I need a bit more active getting around to doing something decent to go so far as to qualify a character as “good”. Feeling mildly worried about Amber isn’t quite enough; the fact that his chances of helping Amber are fairly clearly wounded by his leading Joyce on (however open Joyce might think her eyes were going into this) isn’t doing him any favours.
Lankin the Mad Mage
It might not be super-awesome and hero-level goodness, but we havehad scenes where Ethan shows he cares about others and tries to do what’s good for them, like in te beginning where he and Mike were concerned about Amber’s severe computer-addiction and did an intervention where they literally dragged her out of her room just so she could get some fredh air and hopefully not miss out on having a life in college.
And later when he needed some guidance I seem to recall (but I could be wrong) he said he was reticent about going to Amber about it, because she had already helped himmagainst his horrible parents all summer, so he didn’t want to dump more stuff on her.
So despite being flawed like any human, he //has// shown that he has some good sides, that he cares about others and tries to do wht’s best for his friends. He’s just desperate and confused right now, having problems accepting himself, his parents hate who he turned out to be (which people often forget can be utterly devastating when you’re that young), and he feels these urges are ruining his whole life.
So sure, he’s making bad choices. Who doesn’t? At least he’s shown he wants to do hat’s best for those he cares about. Might not be impressivee but it’s enough to land him as “good guy” in my book.
Rabid Rabbit
Technically, Mike dragged her out of her chair. Ethan just stood by. Which essentially defines him: he stands by and then fits in to whatever last happened that he had nothing to do with. So still understandably passive, but not praiseworthily so.
Jody
Wait, are we forgetting that he wants to “date” Joyce as well? Remember, he said he wanted to be normal, he didn’t want to be the gay kid cause it’s too hard.
Joyce is fighting her trauma as well by ignoring it and jumping into a relationship that requires little to no physicality on her end cause she’s scared and confused by it. (her assault did not help, probably, maybe)
They’re both hurting/using each other. And I think they both kind of know it. Good or bad are kind of simplistic terms to be using in this instance because they’re both in this thing for “grey” reasons.
Rabid Rabbit
In this one case, certainly, he’s co-opted. But his whole pattern of behaviour doesn’t make anything better. There’s a limit to how many times he gets to mess things up “just because he’s confused” (or whatever) and still count as a good person. At what point do his decisions start dragging the balance towards negative results before we stop assuming he’s a nice guy?
Jackson
We are not good people, and we want to believe that we are good people more badly than we want to be good people.
TsunamiJane
Jackson, this is possibly the most profound thing I have read.
Clif
Yes.
Ivan
Even though it says “more badly?”
anonymous
The adverbial form of “worse” isn’t common, though. It might lead to confusion, and this sounds equally or even more natural.
Jen Aside
Dissect it this way:
“I want it bad.” Sounds like you want “it” the opposite of good: “I want it [to be] bad.”
“I want it badly.” You want it in a bad way: the generally accepted slang for really wanting something.
“I want it more badly.” You want it in a bad way more so than some other thing.
So it makes sense, at least to me. There might be better ways to phrase that, but the message comes through either way.
StClair
Close, very close. I’d substitute “perfect”, though, for what most of us – self included – mean/think when we speak of “good.”
Plasma Mongoose
The only thing wrong with the last panel is that Ethan isn’t sporting a raging boner.
Yotomoe
Maybe he’s just a lot smaller than we give him credit for.
Plasma Mongoose
So that’s another reason why Joyce should stop going out with Ethan then?
jose231ful
Nah he’s just really really good at hiding it.
Ongion
No, no, its detachable, remember?
Whittier
Or he’s a shower instead of a grower. He could keep our credit.
begbert2
I’d say he reacted quick enough to avoid the stiffie.
Furie
That, and he doesn’t get which way the door opens.
Em
Ethan break up with her immediately. Please?