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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    October 21, 2024 at 12:04 am | # | Reply

    I wish the jerks talking on the phone IN THE BATHROOM would learn about acoustics

    mostly bc I can’t bring myself to void myself while they are on the phone

    • Enigmatic Jack
      Enigmatic Jack
      October 21, 2024 at 2:31 am | # | Reply

      I went in a public restroom the other day and somebody was in one of the stalls watching Youtube (and presumably doing other things.) Dude had his phone turned up louder than I keep the stereo in my car.

      I decided that there were other bathrooms.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 21, 2024 at 6:03 am | # | Reply

      If they’re loudly having a phone conversation in there, make as much noise as you plausibly can. Assert dominance.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 21, 2024 at 8:05 am | # | Reply

      Oh dude. That’s when you do the loudest, nastiest voiding of bowels you can manage. Get into character. Get vocal. Pound the stall’s walls. Get political. Hell – find religion while defecating.

      Give them a reason to end their call.

      • Kazuma Taichi
        Kazuma Taichi
        October 21, 2024 at 5:46 pm | # | Reply

        I’ve got a stressophagus, will randomly just inflame out of nowhere trapping food I’ve swallowed. I’ve gotten pretty good at hacking it back up but it does not sound pretty

        If I went into a bathroom and someone was talking full volume on the phone (especially if they’re like on speaker phone or something), I’d just make it sound like I got some serious food poisoning and they’ll have front row seats

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        October 22, 2024 at 10:46 am | # | Reply

        idk, part of me agrees wholeheartedly

        another part is Joyce in a bathroom full of Roz (who is streaming in multiple senses)

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:32 am | # | Reply

      Perfect gravatar face is perfect.

    • JA
      JA
      October 22, 2024 at 12:08 am | # | Reply

      Seriously, who talks on the phone in the bathroom? Especially while going to the bathroom?

    • Call Me Deacon Blues
      Call Me Deacon Blues
      October 25, 2024 at 12:10 am | # | Reply

      This is several days old but I experienced the weirdest bathroom phone conversation several years ago that lives rent free in my head. I was in the stall, he was either using the urinal or maybe just washing his hands, I dunno. But he was doing, like, active listening, except to an insane degree. Every couple of seconds, “Yes, yeah, yep, uh-huh, yup, um-hmm,” then, after like, 2 straight minutes of this, he said “But I thought you said you didn’t love her anymore?!” And I almost fucking lost it right there, it was NOT what I was expecting him to say

  2. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 21, 2024 at 12:05 am | # | Reply

    Holy shit. Joe might lose his virginity!

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 21, 2024 at 12:06 am | # | Reply

      Virginiknee.

      • Sharaku
        Sharaku
        October 21, 2024 at 3:16 am | # | Reply

        That’s virgi-knee-ty, i think you’ll find 🙂

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          October 21, 2024 at 8:08 am | # | Reply

          They’re different things. Virginiknee is a knee which is virginal. Virgi-knee-ty is the virginal status of a particular knee. So – for example – we are assuming Joe’s virginiknees have their virgi-knee-ty.

          • Casi
            Casi
            October 21, 2024 at 10:31 am | # | Reply

            I thought Virgiknee was a down home way to say Virginia

            • Mark
              Mark
              October 21, 2024 at 5:09 pm | # | Reply

              Carry Me Back to Old Virgiknee

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 21, 2024 at 8:34 am | # | Reply

        Methinks it’s not Joe’s knees which are going to be involved.

        • Meagan
          Meagan
          October 21, 2024 at 10:51 am | # | Reply

          This be my thought as well.

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 21, 2024 at 2:54 am | # | Reply

      Oh no, someone beat me to it.

  3. Red
    Red
    October 21, 2024 at 12:06 am | # | Reply

    Hahaha that’s amazing, favourite strip of the year

    • Puppeteer Nessus
      Puppeteer Nessus
      October 21, 2024 at 5:27 am | # | Reply

      I like how Joyce just engages with the randos

  4. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    October 21, 2024 at 12:06 am | # | Reply

    …. “WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE??”

    • anon
      anon
      October 21, 2024 at 12:09 am | # | Reply

      Campus would have a lot of students; it is a very teenager-y thing to chime in on convos esp when they have a chance to make sexual jokes lol

      I hope they ‘show up’ more but we never see their faces lol

      • Gigafreak
        Gigafreak
        October 21, 2024 at 1:06 am | # | Reply

        Like a Greek Chorus? I think I remember that role being given to some other characters in this story, though.
        Maybe these two are them. Or maybe they can be geeks so we can call them a Geek Chorus.

      • Tan
        Tan
        October 21, 2024 at 2:44 am | # | Reply

        I mean, sure, but why are their windows open in this weather?

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          October 21, 2024 at 6:04 am | # | Reply

          Smokers? They heard people talking and got curious? Why not, because they’re not the ones paying for heat?

        • Nymph
          Nymph
          October 21, 2024 at 6:10 am | # | Reply

          If they don’t have individually controlled heat in the rooms it might be the only way of–

          It’s a fucking comic strip. Strict realism is in another castle.

          • DanD
            DanD
            October 21, 2024 at 7:50 am | # | Reply

            I mean, this was the case for me. In theory I had control, in practice, radiators simply aren’t that precise, and the difference between off and boiling was a lot more difficult to adjust than cracking the window an inch or two.

          • Proxiehunter
            Proxiehunter
            October 21, 2024 at 2:17 pm | # | Reply

            If you’re wondering how they eat and breathe
            And other science facts,
            Just repeat to yourself “It’s just a web comic,
            I should really just relax
            For Dumbing of Age 3000.”

            • Emperor Norton II
              Emperor Norton II
              October 21, 2024 at 5:45 pm | # | Reply

              We know exactly how Joyce and Dina eats in any case.

          • NGPZ
            NGPZ
            October 21, 2024 at 7:11 pm | # | Reply

            IRL Willis was a student at IU, i pretty sure he also discovered them acoustics by pure accident XD

        • Felis Dee
          Felis Dee
          October 21, 2024 at 12:59 pm | # | Reply

          I come from the Canadian version of the Mid-West, and I can confirm – when it’s winter, the cold air acts as a really, really good conduit for any sound projected in any direction. I don’t know how it works because sound wave science makes my brain hurt, but I do know that it is a thing. I’ve heard full conversations spoken in low tones from what I would’ve thought was out-of-earshot during quiet winter nights. Also, if these dorms are anything like the dorm I lived with during my uni days, and the heating was done by hot-water radiators, they are typically cranked stupidly high in the wintertime, especially if you lived on the lower floors, and you can’t turn it down. I lived on the second floor, and during the coldest cold-snaps, I had my dorm window open and wore shorts and tank tops indoors exclusively.

          • AlexanderHammil
            AlexanderHammil
            October 22, 2024 at 1:03 pm | # | Reply

            having the windows open in the winter is actually the intended use for a lot of steam radiators, because they were designed so that people could stay warm and still get fresh air circulating, after the influenza outbreak of the 1910s. it was a pandemic solution!

    • Peppeppeia
      Peppeppeia
      October 21, 2024 at 1:22 am | # | Reply

      Sorry I accidentally clicked report comment. Seemed to easy to do tbh? Good pikachu avatar btw

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 21, 2024 at 6:14 am | # | Reply

      We’ve only met a microscopic fraction of DoA!IU’s student population. If it weren’t for the background randos, the campus would feel hauntingly barren.

      It would be like the last season of Ed, Edd n’ Eddy, which was set at their school but the creators didn’t introduce any new characters.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 21, 2024 at 8:02 am | # | Reply

      Agreed. Background randos NEED tags! After all, they had a speaking part!

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:35 am | # | Reply

      On uncommon occasion, one needs the Greek Chorus around for a scene. This is one of those uncommon occasions. 🙂

  5. Lumino
    Lumino
    October 21, 2024 at 12:07 am | # | Reply

    *Votes for Background Randos*

    • Clif
      Clif
      October 21, 2024 at 12:57 am | # | Reply

      You know, I’m just going to assume that the Background Rando’s are based on the commentariate and leave it there.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 21, 2024 at 2:11 am | # | Reply

        ngl that’s probably exactly it XD

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 21, 2024 at 6:10 am | # | Reply

        Yes. Ha ha ha… YES!

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 21, 2024 at 8:38 am | # | Reply

        How do we arrange to get Willis to start tagging our commenters? He’s got plenty; he can just start at the top (let’s say Ana Chronistic at first) and throw in a new tag every day.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          October 21, 2024 at 9:20 am | # | Reply

          There is precedent!

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/teams/

          • Michael Steamweed
            Michael Steamweed
            October 21, 2024 at 1:10 pm | # | Reply

            I’ll admit to confusion (and failing my “DoA Commenters Community Lore” check). Which of our people are representified in that strip?

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              October 21, 2024 at 1:21 pm | # | Reply

              Sue / Jen Aside, who may or may not also be Ana.

  6. mindbleach
    mindbleach
    October 21, 2024 at 12:07 am | # | Reply

    Good on the peanut gallery for calling this out. Figuratively and literally.

  7. Corronchilejano
    Corronchilejano
    October 21, 2024 at 12:08 am | # | Reply

    I mean that sounds like good therapy tbh

    • anon
      anon
      October 21, 2024 at 1:44 am | # | Reply

      Getting pegged by a therapist would certainly be an experience lol (makes me think of kiley from ma3 doing more ‘sexual therapy’)

      • Joy
        Joy
        October 21, 2024 at 6:59 am | # | Reply

        Sex worker with a psych degree?

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 21, 2024 at 8:39 am | # | Reply

        A great webcomic! I miss the old crew. (new crew is okay, but i miss me some gary and zii shenaniganing)

  8. davus
    davus
    October 21, 2024 at 12:08 am | # | Reply

    If pegging isn’t sex, them there’s no real sex just like there’s no true scotsman, and so Joyce can do whatever the hell she wants.

    • Dday
      Dday
      October 21, 2024 at 12:13 am | # | Reply

      She clearly *wants* to be told what to do. The rest is just window dressing.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        October 21, 2024 at 12:20 am | # | Reply

        At this point I’m imagining Dorothy as Joyce’s dom or something. She needs to ask her mistress for permission to fuck her boyfriend.

        • ktbear
          ktbear
          October 21, 2024 at 1:22 am | # | Reply

          @Sirksome, I’d definately give this a thumbs up if I could.

        • Mollyscribbles
          Mollyscribbles
          October 21, 2024 at 2:27 am | # | Reply

          are there platonic doms? because once you get past the point where you’re holding someone’s hand while teaching them to masturbate it doesn’t feel like it’s platonic but describing it that way will probably make it easier on Joyce.

          • Nymph
            Nymph
            October 21, 2024 at 6:12 am | # | Reply

            There are definitely plenty of cases where the dominant and submissive aren’t also in a sexual or romantic relationship. I doubt it passes for what most people consider to be ‘platonic’ given the other kinds of intimacy and trust going on, but yeah that happens.

        • Francoinblanco
          Francoinblanco
          October 21, 2024 at 2:52 am | # | Reply

          This, im bet Joyce get brilliant idea to invite Dotty to be spectator/moderator “that night”

          • Miri
            Miri
            October 21, 2024 at 5:06 am | # | Reply

            “so you dress as a teacher… Not like my MOM obviously, but maybe Leslie? But with more cleavage? Like when Roz’s sister the congresswoman was visiting our class? And you’ll have a ruler and whiteboard pens and you’ll rap on the board and tell is what to do and when…”

            • Michael Steamweed
              Michael Steamweed
              October 21, 2024 at 8:42 am | # | Reply

              Dorothy (the patient one) as sex ed teacher; Joyce (the bratty one) and Joe (the earnest one) as students. Such a wacky threesome idea. Someone oughta write this smutfic for AO3. 😀

  9. cbwroses
    cbwroses
    October 21, 2024 at 12:08 am | # | Reply

    Or it works like a double negative and positively becomes sex, Joyce.

    Or, to quote Mr Boddy, “The double negative has led to proof positive; I’m afraid you gave yourself away!”

  10. Ty34er
    Ty34er
    October 21, 2024 at 12:09 am | # | Reply

    You say they aren’t characters. I say that I lived in a residence hall that had shouting outside all the time.

  11. elfroyalty
    elfroyalty
    October 21, 2024 at 12:09 am | # | Reply

    joyce really does love a butt huh

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 21, 2024 at 2:53 am | # | Reply

      Joe might be about to lose HIS virginity.

      • Nymph
        Nymph
        October 21, 2024 at 6:32 am | # | Reply

        Is there any indication this isn’t something he’s tried already?

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:44 am | # | Reply

      She’s got butts disease. Possibly incurably. We can only blame Jacques and Willis.

  12. Dday
    Dday
    October 21, 2024 at 12:10 am | # | Reply

    I’m officially naming them “Peggy” and “Kneejob”.

  13. No one
    No one
    October 21, 2024 at 12:11 am | # | Reply

    I hope Joyce gets the pegging-inclusive Slipshine we all deserve.

  14. Icalasari
    Icalasari
    October 21, 2024 at 12:11 am | # | Reply

    Those people are us in the comments section

    • Kim
      Kim
      October 21, 2024 at 6:40 am | # | Reply

      xD

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 21, 2024 at 6:49 am | # | Reply

      Off-panel commentariat for next Patreon bonus strip?

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:45 am | # | Reply

      A very different take on fanservice! It’s us, the Greek (Geek?) Chorus!

  15. cbwroses
    cbwroses
    October 21, 2024 at 12:12 am | # | Reply

    I assume a kneejob is like a footjob only about 12-20 inches higher.

    • Dday
      Dday
      October 21, 2024 at 12:24 am | # | Reply

      I’m pretty sure a knee job is when you dress up your knee with a little fedora and necktie and briefcase, and your other knee is wearing pearls and lipstick and you act like it’s saying “be home in time for dinner, I’m making your favorite!” and then your first knee goes to your partner’s knee which is holding a little cigar and has a combover and a mustache sharpied on and he’s all “Johnson! I kneed that report on my desk by noon!”

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        October 21, 2024 at 1:02 am | # | Reply

        I feel like it would be more so “Parker! Get me pictures of Spider-man!”

      • Lee
        Lee
        October 21, 2024 at 10:32 am | # | Reply

        Thank you, I’m cry-laughing.

        • Dday
          Dday
          October 21, 2024 at 1:18 pm | # | Reply

          Happy to be of soivice 😉

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      October 21, 2024 at 2:29 am | # | Reply

      I was thinking it sounded like a specific form of frottage.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:48 am | # | Reply

      Some decades ago, a friend of mine wrote in her journal about grinding on her boyfriend’s knee while making out. This might be Joyce’s idea. Joyce stimulating herself on Joe’s knee?

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 21, 2024 at 11:29 pm | # | Reply

      Imagine being kneed in the crotch. Now, imagine you enjoyed it.

  16. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    October 21, 2024 at 12:12 am | # | Reply

    y’know what’s funny. I also wouldn’t consider pegging sex but that’s cuz I very personally think of sex as involving ones own anatomy and another’s anatomy.
    In general I have an aversion to toys and the like so it could just be a hangup with that.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 21, 2024 at 1:01 am | # | Reply

      And aversion to toys? Damn, what kind of boring-ass sex is a person having if there’s no Megazord involved? Like, not even a 1994 Barbie? A yo-yo? One of those little rubber ninjas you can get in capsule machines?

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 21, 2024 at 2:08 am | # | Reply

        All fun and games until you step on a lego mid-coitus.

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          October 21, 2024 at 2:18 am | # | Reply

          unless of course masochism is your kink lel XD

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          October 21, 2024 at 8:50 am | # | Reply

          E.R. doctors have seen such scary cases, unfortunately. Oh the horror. You think rug burn is as bad as it gets, and then calamity strikes!

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 21, 2024 at 2:53 am | # | Reply

      I promise, anatomy is still involved.

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      October 21, 2024 at 6:34 am | # | Reply

      You would be incorrect and explicitly excluding certain kinds of queer and trans sex alongside the cis people who are cool and like pegging too.

      • Nymph
        Nymph
        October 21, 2024 at 6:37 am | # | Reply

        cis-het I meant, but you get the point. 😀

    • Dday
      Dday
      October 21, 2024 at 1:13 pm | # | Reply

      This opens an interesting avenue of inquiry. So like… what if you’re holding a dildo and your partner is holding a fleshlight? Zero skin contact. Show of hands, who thinks that should count as sex?

      • Jeremiah
        Jeremiah
        October 21, 2024 at 1:16 pm | # | Reply

        I think it depends if the participants fell sexual pleasure from the act.

  17. IntangibleMatter
    IntangibleMatter
    October 21, 2024 at 12:14 am | # | Reply

    I’m not naming those background randos

    Coward.

    • AbacusWizard
      AbacusWizard
      October 21, 2024 at 12:15 am | # | Reply

      Aw, I was hoping they’d get character tags.

    • Pinkie
      Pinkie
      October 21, 2024 at 12:19 am | # | Reply

      We can vote for them as background random, right? ?

    • grep
      grep
      October 21, 2024 at 12:24 am | # | Reply

      That alt-text won’t stop me because I can’t read!

    • Tan
      Tan
      October 21, 2024 at 4:29 am | # | Reply

      Their names are Randall and Randolph.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        October 21, 2024 at 11:33 pm | # | Reply

        C’mon, at least name one of them Mortimer…. Or maybe Statler and Waldorf?

  18. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    October 21, 2024 at 12:15 am | # | Reply

    Dumbing of Age, Book 17: If We Do This, Can We Do It Inside Where It’s Warm?

    • Ray Radlein
      Ray Radlein
      October 21, 2024 at 12:57 am | # | Reply

      Dumbing of Age, Book 17: Pegging Is Definitely Sex, by the Way

      • Clif
        Clif
        October 21, 2024 at 1:01 am | # | Reply

        Dumbing of Age, Book 17: What About a Knee-job?

      • Dave the Inverted
        Dave the Inverted
        October 21, 2024 at 6:02 am | # | Reply

        I made a bet with myself about how far down in the comments I would have to go to find someone suggesting this. (It was, in fact, further than I’d expected.)

  19. Kimi
    Kimi
    October 21, 2024 at 12:15 am | # | Reply

    Bad acoustics is why I don’t like cathedral ceilings or open house designs for the most part. It just makes everything noisy and no part of the house is quiet. Had a house with a cathedral ceiling growing up, and you could hear the tv better in my bedroom (down the hall and to the right) better than in the room the tv actually was in. It wasn’t even minorly better, but tens of times better for understanding the dialogue, even with the door closed.

    • Rectilinear Propagation
      Rectilinear Propagation
      October 21, 2024 at 2:24 am | # | Reply

      Did you grow up in a hot region or were tall ceilings just a popular thing?

      • Kimi
        Kimi
        October 21, 2024 at 3:37 am | # | Reply

        It was a house built by someone going through chemo in the 80s. There was a lot of weird stuff and designs in it (rough wood shingles directly in the showers anyone?). I grew up in New England (in the NE US), so not typically considered a hot area. It can get hot and humid in the summer, but also quite cold in the winter. Guessing style due to that. Also had no attic, which was horrible due to the flying squirrels that would get into the ceiling and ruin everything (very gross). You couldn’t get to them due to no attic.
        I think that a lot of people just like the look of cathedral ceilings and open house concepts. Functionally though, you really only want your kitchen and dining room in an “open” design, and any noisy rooms, with tvs or where the kids play, work best when closed off. High ceilings work better than cathedral normally sound wise, but that can depend a lot on the materials of the wall. If you have any stone or other masonry, I have a feeling that the acoustics are always going to be rough with any type of high ceiling.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 21, 2024 at 6:52 am | # | Reply

        Two-story tall spaces were super popular in the 2000s McMansion boom. That whole trend of faux opulence was peak baby boomer clout chasing.

        Here in the northeast, they just mean your house has a ton of empty air space where all your heat goes.

  20. Pocky
    Pocky
    October 21, 2024 at 12:16 am | # | Reply

    Girl just opened up one of those tier lists and wrote all them down, didn’t she?

    • Dave Van Domelen
      Dave Van Domelen
      October 21, 2024 at 12:19 am | # | Reply

      The internet is very helpful!

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      October 21, 2024 at 12:56 am | # | Reply

      Is a tier list like a Purity Test?

  21. DiDi
    DiDi
    October 21, 2024 at 12:19 am | # | Reply

    OK but are the background randos more likely to be dudes or dudettes?

    I was leaning towards dudes but that felt stereotypically predictable…

  22. Nono
    Nono
    October 21, 2024 at 12:25 am | # | Reply

    Kneejob is intercural sex? Or wait that’s more of a thigh thing?

    • NickG
      NickG
      October 21, 2024 at 2:25 pm | # | Reply

      Intercruciate?

  23. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    October 21, 2024 at 12:27 am | # | Reply

    I fully agree with the voice on the upper left.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:53 am | # | Reply

      Appropriate name to go with rando!

      • Mr. Random
        Mr. Random
        October 21, 2024 at 7:47 pm | # | Reply

        Mr. Random was my father.
        Please, call me Mister.

  24. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    October 21, 2024 at 12:27 am | # | Reply

    Yeah, if you’re getting the inner in-there, I’d definitely call it intercourse. Of course, it’s arbitrary, anyway, and what is and isn’t sex is generally up to the participants.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      October 21, 2024 at 1:24 am | # | Reply

      The shift to defining what is sex *to you* is pretty cool. People don’t have to share your perspective on it in defining your own experiences. Even the person(s) you’re having sex with don’t have to agree, as long as everyone is onboard with what’s happening.

      For me, this has mostly been in recognizing that some activities of mine might not “count” as sex in the broader societal standard, but it felt like sex to me, so that’s how I’m going to describe it. Also helpful when feelings of sexual shame start to rise up in a way that’s drawing from ideas of what’s “right” according to some imaginary people– I go, okay, well those people wouldn’t even consider this sex, so what do they know.

      • Bogeywoman
        Bogeywoman
        October 21, 2024 at 5:22 am | # | Reply

        100%

        I started really thinking about it like that because I’m in the kink scene where everyone has their own ideas about what sex is. For me, kink play and sex are separate, sex is for sexual gratification and kink is for… Idk… the enjoyment of difference sensory experiences or something. Sexual acts done as part of a scene isn’t sex, and kink acts done for sex isn’t itself kink. I also count masturbation as sex, which a lot of people don’t.

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      October 21, 2024 at 1:49 am | # | Reply

      IMAO, it is sex if the intention is to cause at least one person to have an orgasm.

  25. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 21, 2024 at 12:29 am | # | Reply

    Ya couldn’t have said that earlier, voices????

  26. Dara
    Dara
    October 21, 2024 at 12:31 am | # | Reply

    Dorothy what’s a kneejob

  27. Suet
    Suet
    October 21, 2024 at 12:35 am | # | Reply

    Joyce has learned from Riki Lindhome, I see.

    What’s the gray area, the knee or the job?

    • Suet
      Suet
      October 21, 2024 at 2:13 am | # | Reply

      New poll? “What’s ga—” *stares at Willis INTENSELY

      You’re feeding the shippers but also messing with us!

  28. Marianne
    Marianne
    October 21, 2024 at 12:38 am | # | Reply

    If you won’t name the background weirdos, Statler and Waldorf, then I certainly will.

    • Rectilinear Propagation
      Rectilinear Propagation
      October 21, 2024 at 2:25 am | # | Reply

      Oh no, now I’m reading the dialogue with their voices!

    • Kim
      Kim
      October 21, 2024 at 6:41 am | # | Reply

      xD xD

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:54 am | # | Reply

      OH HO HO HO!

  29. Taffy
    Taffy
    October 21, 2024 at 12:41 am | # | Reply

    I can’t vote for them on Patreon, but I can vote for them in next month’s ballot.

    • Nymph
      Nymph
      October 21, 2024 at 6:44 am | # | Reply

      No one can stop us.

  30. TheLurkerAbove
    TheLurkerAbove
    October 21, 2024 at 12:48 am | # | Reply

    Well, I mean, I guess for Joyce, anything that doesn’t lead to babies isn’t considered sex? XD

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 21, 2024 at 12:57 am | # | Reply

      No form of sex leads to babies, either. There is not even one single sex act which will cause a person to become pregnant. That’s not how sex works. Please get this myth out of your head and correct anyone you know who still perpetuates it.

      • Clif
        Clif
        October 21, 2024 at 1:05 am | # | Reply

        What about sex with storks?

        • Taffy
          Taffy
          October 21, 2024 at 1:06 am | # | Reply

          That’s a felony, I promise you.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      October 21, 2024 at 1:16 am | # | Reply

      Though the soaking described last page could have that result…

  31. Qube
    Qube
    October 21, 2024 at 1:06 am | # | Reply

    reminded of that one scene from DBZ Abridged, actually

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 21, 2024 at 12:44 pm | # | Reply

      Which one?

      • Devin
        Devin
        October 22, 2024 at 2:14 pm | # | Reply

        Y’know…that one.

  32. moon
    moon
    October 21, 2024 at 1:32 am | # | Reply

    statler and wahldorf cameo

  33. Jamie
    Jamie
    October 21, 2024 at 1:39 am | # | Reply

    See, I totally believe that people can hear them, but I’m less convinced that they can talk back. Mostly because I live in a building with “great acoustics” and can listen in on arguments several floors down in the alleyway, but yelling at them to go away and let me sleep has zero effect. They don’t even yell back. 🙁

    Maybe I just need to yell better.

  34. Someguy
    Someguy
    October 21, 2024 at 1:39 am | # | Reply

    Damn you, Willis! Not giving those randos names!

    • anon
      anon
      October 21, 2024 at 1:45 am | # | Reply

      i hope it’s a reccuring thing to where it’s always randos, but diff sets of randos chiming in every time to the point where all the unnamed students in their college know them

    • Dara
      Dara
      October 21, 2024 at 5:16 am | # | Reply

      It’s the Utena Shadow Girls. They’re back.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 8:55 am | # | Reply

      They need to be named after us!

      • Heavensrun
        Heavensrun
        October 21, 2024 at 7:56 pm | # | Reply

        I just think of it as literally the comment section yelling at the strip.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 21, 2024 at 11:38 pm | # | Reply

      Just because HE refuses to name them, doesn’t mean WE won’t. In fact, I think we took it as a dare.

  35. Zamperla
    Zamperla
    October 21, 2024 at 1:49 am | # | Reply

    funny thing is doin’ it in the butt is, as near as I can tell, absolutely not a loophole in any generaly real way, even in mormonisim. It’s just what happens if you’re Real Horny.

    however I do think Joyce should get to try pegging if she’d like. then she can have sexytimes AND bury her face in joes big ol muscular shoulderblades.

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 21, 2024 at 2:48 am | # | Reply

      And let’s not forget how much she likes butts.

    • Tan
      Tan
      October 21, 2024 at 3:49 am | # | Reply

      Define “real” in this context?

      There is definitely a segment of the populace who (claim to) care about such things who maintain that a girl only loses her virginity when her vagina is penetrated.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 21, 2024 at 8:27 am | # | Reply

        I think the point is that those groups that tie virginity strictly to vaginal penetration tend to be even more against anal.

  36. Florence
    Florence
    October 21, 2024 at 2:13 am | # | Reply

    I don’t care of logic, please let this conversation continue with the roof people

  37. Bash
    Bash
    October 21, 2024 at 2:56 am | # | Reply

    Oh goodness how long has Willis been setting this one up.

  38. ReFlex76
    ReFlex76
    October 21, 2024 at 3:08 am | # | Reply

    Garfunkel and Oates, Joyce is a woman of culture.

    https://youtu.be/j8ZF_R_j0OY?si=YfInW4C4-Z4IXCiA

  39. FacelessDeviant
    FacelessDeviant
    October 21, 2024 at 3:10 am | # | Reply

    It amazes me when people who believe in an all knowing deity thinks that they can outsmart a god by using loopholes.

    Like god is gonna go “oh man, I didn’t think of that. You really got me there. Carry on with your grey area not quite sex act. I guess its cool until the next holy text comes out.”

    • miz
      miz
      October 21, 2024 at 3:25 am | # | Reply

      it’s only a loophole until He adds it to the patch notes

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      October 21, 2024 at 3:46 am | # | Reply

      But if he’s all-knowing he must be aware of the loopholes and have put them there deliberately. probably.

      • aelfwine
        aelfwine
        October 21, 2024 at 7:28 am | # | Reply

        Even if he was real, he didn’t put loopholes in. Paul didn’t say vagina stuff bad, butt stuff ok, he told people to be celibate and if they can, or marry if they can’t tolerate celibacy.
        Any christian who pretends that butt stuff is ok isn’t finding a loophole, they are simply making random things up.

    • Joy
      Joy
      October 21, 2024 at 7:04 am | # | Reply

      I feel like this is a part where Jewish people and Christian people tend to differ in worship

    • David M Willis
      David M Willis
      October 21, 2024 at 8:13 am | # | Reply

      Early Old Testament, you could definitely trick God! He was just a powerful dude, then.

      Power escalation came later.

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 21, 2024 at 8:59 am | # | Reply

        The longer God stays in the yellow sun, the more powerful He becomes.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        October 21, 2024 at 9:24 am | # | Reply

        There’s something funny about the bible having power creep!

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 21, 2024 at 2:49 pm | # | Reply

        Early OT preserves echoes of the original polytheist pagan nature of Hebrew religion. Rewritten to make it less obvious, but with plenty of traces if you read critically.

        It wasn’t until the Exile, most likely, that YHWH came to be seen as something larger than the specific God of the people and land of Judah.

      • FacelessDeviant
        FacelessDeviant
        October 21, 2024 at 11:31 pm | # | Reply

        Ah yeah, power creep is an issue in most longer series. Just look at X-men comics.

  40. miz
    miz
    October 21, 2024 at 3:25 am | # | Reply

    willis doesn’t need to name the rando voices because their names are just your username. yes, you, reading this. you are the rando. congrats.

    • Clif
      Clif
      October 21, 2024 at 4:09 am | # | Reply

      I knew it!

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 9:00 am | # | Reply

      But I want tags for us! :O

  41. TheFlamingonator
    TheFlamingonator
    October 21, 2024 at 4:13 am | # | Reply

    God? is that you??

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      October 21, 2024 at 10:18 am | # | Reply

      There’s 2 differents persons talking. If one is God, who could be the another one?

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 21, 2024 at 12:36 pm | # | Reply

        https://www.dumbingofage.com/drafty/ second appearance?

      • TheFlamingonator
        TheFlamingonator
        October 22, 2024 at 6:47 am | # | Reply

        God and… Flying Spaghetti monster?

  42. Bruno
    Bruno
    October 21, 2024 at 4:38 am | # | Reply

    For those who don’t remember, this is back from the kickstarter when 2 people paid $10,000 each to make their OCs canon. The greek choir here are those OCs.

  43. Arianod
    Arianod
    October 21, 2024 at 4:40 am | # | Reply

    Ah yes, Randall Background and Miranda Background. It’s been a while.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 9:01 am | # | Reply

      Are they the Greek Chorus or the Geek Chorus?

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        October 21, 2024 at 12:48 pm | # | Reply

        Ethnically, they’re Finnish.

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          October 21, 2024 at 1:12 pm | # | Reply

          Well I’m glad _someone’s_ finishing!

  44. Chris
    Chris
    October 21, 2024 at 5:20 am | # | Reply

    I just read (and took) the new poll. “What is gayer?” Yes, I recognize that word, gayer, as a word. It’s whatever kind of speech it is (Adverb? Adjective? Whatever, not an English major, or even minor…) and when I read that, I have to admit that I asked myself, should that be “What is lesbianer?” and realized that doesn’t work.
    Ahh, American English, one of the hardest languages to learn the rules for, and stupiders too.

    • Chris
      Chris
      October 21, 2024 at 5:21 am | # | Reply

      Got to give me credit at least, for using the write to…er right two.

    • eh, whatever
      eh, whatever
      October 21, 2024 at 5:41 am | # | Reply

      It’s an adjective, and -er is only consistently used with adjectives and adverbs of one syllable; with more than two, you use more instead. With exactly two, -ly gets -er (friendlier); others, common and slender in particular, are a gray area.

      Source: was taught English as a foreign language.

      • Nymph
        Nymph
        October 21, 2024 at 6:47 am | # | Reply

        No that can’t be right. “What is lesbianmore?” doesn’t sound any more correct.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          October 21, 2024 at 9:10 am | # | Reply

          I assume this is a joke, but somehow “more lesbian” doesn’t sound quite right to me either, yet “most lesbian” sounds fine. Think the first one not sounding right can be amended by just thinking it more.

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 21, 2024 at 7:41 am | # | Reply

        That must be why you understand it so well. I was trying to work out what makes the difference between “X-er” and “more X” — I don’t believe that I was ever told.

        I think the real difficulty here is whether “gay” can have a comparative (or superlative) form. One expects it to be absolute. (Which is, of course, part of what makes the question fun.)

        • Pergola
          Pergola
          October 21, 2024 at 10:18 am | # | Reply

          This is less gay, verging on ungay.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 21, 2024 at 4:55 pm | # | Reply

        This feels like a challenge to find exceptions, like as a puzzle, not in a “must prove you wrong” way. I’ve got one three syllable root word so far, but I’m unhappy with it because it has a prefix.

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          October 22, 2024 at 10:12 am | # | Reply

          Raggedy, Raggedier, Raggediest. I cheated and looked at a list of superlatives, but I did have to filter out all the ones that also had a “most X” version that was better.
          Good rule though, that I was either not explicitly taught, or I was so young I didn’t even remember.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 9:06 am | # | Reply

      Former English Teacher and Linguistician here. “Gay” ’tis an adjective, so you modify with “-er” to get “gayer”. All good. But “Lesbian” ’tis a noun, so you don’t modify with “-er”. You can modify with “-ly” or “-able” (as two common approaches) to convert the noun to an adjective based on “quality”. Then modify with “-er”. Thus: “lesbianlier” or “lesbianabler”. They sound odd, but that’s because you’re not accustomed to hearing or seeing those words. You just need more exposure to lesbianing.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        October 21, 2024 at 9:12 am | # | Reply

        “Lesbian” is a noun AND an adjective. eh, whatever’s explanation was more accurate.

        • Clif
          Clif
          October 21, 2024 at 11:57 am | # | Reply

          As a guy, I’m not lesbianable?

          • Michael Steamweed
            Michael Steamweed
            October 21, 2024 at 1:13 pm | # | Reply

            With a little bit of identibilification, yes, you too can be!

      • Pergola
        Pergola
        October 21, 2024 at 11:02 am | # | Reply

        This is less lesbianish.

  45. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    October 21, 2024 at 6:10 am | # | Reply

    i am midly horrified

    • Clif
      Clif
      October 21, 2024 at 11:59 am | # | Reply

      But are you less horrifiedish?

  46. Da Boy
    Da Boy
    October 21, 2024 at 7:35 am | # | Reply

    You know… this makes me think that the entire campus got a very nice earful of Amber going Brock Samson on the creep guy.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 21, 2024 at 9:09 am | # | Reply

      Perhaps that’s why she wasn’t arrested. Up to a hundred witnesses, hearing the creep guy’s confession, hearing him attack Amber, and hearing (but not seeing, thankfully) the results of Amber’s response.

      • Da Boy
        Da Boy
        October 21, 2024 at 11:31 am | # | Reply

        That’s a good point

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        October 21, 2024 at 12:52 pm | # | Reply

        That’d be really funny and cool. A courtroom scene where they’re like “bring in the witnesses” and 34 people come in, and then all of them have identical stories when questioned. Except for this one guy who insists she did a backflip over Phone Guy’s head first.

        • CianM1301
          CianM1301
          October 21, 2024 at 1:44 pm | # | Reply

          It’d be like that scene in Miracle on 34th Street where they bring in the sacks full of letters addressed to Santa Claus.

  47. Svennerson
    Svennerson
    October 21, 2024 at 8:12 am | # | Reply

    My petition for the names of the two randos: Fucko and Clyde

  48. Zaxares
    Zaxares
    October 21, 2024 at 8:46 am | # | Reply

    … No, Joyce. Doing it in the butt is NOT a loophole, no matter what the silly fundies might tell you. 😛

    Also, I agree with the mysterious shouter. Pegging most DEFINITELY counts as sex; it is an internal, penetrative act involving an erogenous zone enacted for sexual satisfaction/pleasure.

    Kneejobs could go either way depending on the body parts involved, but if sexual gratification is the endgoal, then yes, it is also a sexual act.

  49. Lee
    Lee
    October 21, 2024 at 10:34 am | # | Reply

    Okay but now I desperately need to know if Joyce has heard ‘The Loophole’ by Garfunkel & Oates.

    • Gandalf007
      Gandalf007
      October 21, 2024 at 12:00 pm | # | Reply

      My head canon is that Walky sent it to her to scandalize her, which worked amazingly*. Now she has a different world view but it’s one of those things that sticks in her brain and she’ll invoke given the opportunity, whether or not that’s her current belief. Y’know, some people say that’s a loophole…

      * Especially the very raunchy line ending in “… ’cause I love Jesus!”

      • deliverything
        deliverything
        October 21, 2024 at 3:28 pm | # | Reply

        Honestly, this makes sense. That “considered a loophole” bit isn’t something people are likely to actually say; those who believe it probably wouldn’t admit to doing such things anyway, while those who are more open about their sex lives probably tend not to feel any need to worry about whether those activities can arguably be technically considered not-sex.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 21, 2024 at 10:02 pm | # | Reply

          It might be the kind of thing that teens desperately looking for a excuse to do the sexy stuff they want tell themselves or their partners.

  50. nothri
    nothri
    October 21, 2024 at 1:07 pm | # | Reply

    So if you orgasm from a kneejob that means you are having a kneejerk reaction right?

    • Dday
      Dday
      October 21, 2024 at 1:16 pm | # | Reply

      ?

    • Some Guy
      Some Guy
      October 21, 2024 at 8:31 pm | # | Reply

      It’s a sin that only one guy reacted to this magnificent terrible pun.

    • Queen Anthai
      Queen Anthai
      October 21, 2024 at 11:32 pm | # | Reply

      This fucking fanbase I s2g

      *would give an angry “like” if she could*

  51. Mancuso
    Mancuso
    October 21, 2024 at 2:00 pm | # | Reply

    Sometimes a statement must be made even if it’s late and superfluous: Willis is very good at this.

  52. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    October 21, 2024 at 2:13 pm | # | Reply

    strip about anal sex titled, “Where it’s warm”

  53. Yeet
    Yeet
    October 21, 2024 at 3:31 pm | # | Reply

    people need to stop doing big meaningful conversations out here I guess
    it looks fun to skate though

  54. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    October 21, 2024 at 4:13 pm | # | Reply

    Joyce you have severe repressed sexual tension and you’re either going to find out you like girls too or Jacob will be in a wheelchair for a month

    • Juanoku
      Juanoku
      October 21, 2024 at 4:13 pm | # | Reply

      I MEANT JOE F U C K

      • Yeet
        Yeet
        October 21, 2024 at 5:07 pm | # | Reply

        joe fuck is right

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        October 21, 2024 at 6:03 pm | # | Reply

        Considering how Lucy is currently working him, Jacob might also be in a wheelchair for a month

  55. Poyo
    Poyo
    October 21, 2024 at 6:05 pm | # | Reply

    no no joyce, pegging is definitely not sex. you should try it with joe. i think youd both like it.

    • Heavensrun
      Heavensrun
      October 21, 2024 at 7:52 pm | # | Reply

      She can practice with Dorothy. It’s not sex, after all.

      • Poyo
        Poyo
        October 22, 2024 at 2:32 pm | # | Reply

        after all

  56. Alongcameaspider
    Alongcameaspider
    October 21, 2024 at 7:10 pm | # | Reply

    I ship the two offscreen voices in this strip with each other

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 21, 2024 at 7:38 pm | # | Reply

      Each of them is attracted to the other, and they’ve had small, politely flirty encounters every so often, but their schedules never line up to let them spend more than about two minutes in the same place. Three days from this strip, they’ll both have perfectly aligned schedules and show up to an event hosted by a guy who knows a chick who knows an enby who shares a class with each of their roommates, and they’ll both show up on a whim, and they’ll both join in on the party’s impromptu Smash Bros. tourney and make it to the final round as Peach and Toon Link. They’ll make a bet that the loser buys the winner a slice at Galasso’s, and once the game is over they’ll celebrate and go get their pizza, and then they’ll be up all night just talking.

  57. Ophidiophile
    Ophidiophile
    October 22, 2024 at 2:33 am | # | Reply

    I was surprised that Joyce had heard of pegging, until I remembered that early in the comic, she was told that Ethan would be happy if she got a strappon. And she looked it up.

  58. Thing2
    Thing2
    October 24, 2024 at 4:39 am | # | Reply

    Love this. Like people popping up on social media and making random comments on your post, only in real life!

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