No, please no. We need to wean her and Billie off of the liquid refreshments of an intoxicating sort! I don’t expect it to happen over night, or without occasional relapsing, but rhyming her name with booze won’t help!
(Although, while I’d rather see them going at it sober… No, bad me! Get that mental image of Billie taking a long drink of Ruth Vermouth out of your head! No! Bad!)
gears
Okay, I’ve seen a lot of these types of posts with regards to Billie and Ruth, and held my tongue until now, but it’s type to speak up.
There is NOTHING wrong with enjoying alcohol. NOTHING.
That is not to say Billie and Ruth do not have issues. They both have very serious issues they should see a therapist about. Alcohol is not, however the problem. Their alcohol use is an attempt to cope with the other issues in their lives that they do not know how else to deal with and are overwhelmed by the very idea of facing.
They do not need to quit drinking, they need to learn self control. They need to know when it is okay to lose control and when it isn’t. They need self confidence, and they need to shake the self image they both have that they are worthless.
None of these things are caused by the drinking. They are what causes the drinking. Them quitting alcohol is treating a symptom, not the disease. Assuming that either of them possessed the strength to quit, which they don’t, it would only make things harder for them because they now would have no coping mechanism to deal with their own feelings of inadequacy. In Ruth’s case, the problem is exacerbated by the fact that her parents were killed by a drunk, but that is only a wrinkle in the fabric that is her negative self image. She thinks she is worthless, and does things to cope with that image that only end up justifying it in her own eyes. She will never be able to quit drinking until she likes herself.
Billie on the other hand has severe abandonment issues. She drinks to forget that, in her eyes, no one really cares about her. It’s why cheerleading was so important to her, it’s why she went to Walky when things started to fall apart, it’s why she has latched onto Ruth, who has been nothing but awful to her since day one, because in Billie’s mind, Ruth’s behavior at least shows she cares.
Both of these women use alcohol to cope with their problems, but it is not in and of itself their problem.
nothri
I will totally admit that this MIGHT be true. But it is also completely true that for some people alcohol is 100% a problem in and of itself. There are a lot of people who slide so far into addiction that alcohol becomes their life, and some people can only be cured of that addiction by avoiding so much as a sip of booze. So yes, there are certainly big problems in their lives that they turned to drinking to “deal” with. But I’d wager that the alcohol will not make their lives one jot easier, and indeed will probably make solving their core issues far more difficult than they otherwise would be.
Ghola
The thing is, the booze is just making their issues worse. Booze is just an object. it’s neither good nor evil. But they’re using that object as a crutch and a band-aid, sticking their heads in the sand to their bigger problems.
Until they remove that crutch, and find a healthier way of healing, that’s not just a band-aide, they’re just going to go down the slippery slope of “It’s not that bad!” until they’re dead in a ditch.. or dead in walky’s bed bare assed, where Dorothy finds them and her legs start accusing Walky of cheating on her via cadavers.
shaking her ass like a bee playing charades…
artemi
Thank you. I’ve been feeling the same way for a while now about those two, and wasn’t entirely sure why or what it was. This pins it down a lot for me. Well said!
Untes
“None of these things are caused by the drinking. They are what causes the drinking. Them quitting alcohol is treating a symptom, not the disease”
Alcoholism -is- a disease. I think you’re playing with fire here with your flippant attitude towards its destructive nature.
At one point you could have argued that a person just needed self control yet could still drink, but this isn’t the case for people with alcoholism.
So yeah, Alcohol is a problem.
Marco
While alcohol may just be a symptom, it serves as gaping wound that becomes an infection and prevents any hope of healing. When you’re drinking to hide from your problem, it follows that you need to STOP DRINKING if you’re ever going to face them.
There’s no world where the kind of drinking Ruth and Billie are getting up to is a good thing. I know that’s not what you meant, but that’s why it needs no defense.
Dorje Sylas
I would respectfully disagree. Especially in Ruth’s case where its established in her own words that the alcoholic is fueling the depression cycle. The alcoholism itself links directly back to the original source of the depression and would be a very large factor in her self-loathing. Neither character has an option of drinking responsilby at this point. They both need to stop, the sooner the better.
Yes, if both characters were real human beings they’d desperately need professional psychologically assistant to help get at the root emotional issues. But that’s never easy for someone already caught, and it certainly doesn’t absolve alcohol’s role. In various militaries there is something called a “force multiplier,” which means something that dramatically increases a groups effectiveness. Alcohol is a depression multiplier, it makes depression much worse.
You are correct that there is nothing wrong with enjoying alcohol responsibly, but that’s not the same as giving it a free pass. Pre-existing depression + alcohol = very bad. Ruth and Billie need to stop drinking, combined with counseling. Doing either alone won’t be enough.
Miles Dryden
Is that avatar from the D&D arcade game? Because, if so, you are awesome.
Felgraf
If someone posted the same set of things but, say, about heroin, would you consider that valid?
When you have a dependency on a drug (and a lot of alcoholics have literally developed a *chemical dependency*, which is why cold-turkey quiting can be fecking dangerous), THAT’S BAD, and in some cases, that *IS* literally the whole of your problems. And some people, through genetics or just crap luck, are more susceptible to developing a dependency/addiction. Sometimes, alcohol/alcoholism *is* the disease.
What caused them to become alcoholics is a problem, too. But that doesn’t mean alcoholism is just a symptom. It can (and, in the case of these two, I think, has) grown into a lovely little monster all of it’s own accord. Even if they resolved their other issues, they’d still have this to battle.
Bagge
I really want in on this discussion, because I have opinions on the matter and I think it deserves a respectful, tactful discussion. However, since the posters above already have said anything I could have added in a tactful and respectful way I’m sort of lost.
Yes, alcohol is not their only problem, but yes alcohol is one of their problems, and drinking has a tendency of become a problem in its own right, not the least because how repeated drinking changes the body. They need help, and one of the things they need help with is finding a way of controlling their drinking. Speaking as an armchair psychologist with a limited view into their situation I would say that quitting altogether is much safer than trying to find a manageable middle ground. That “one glass is one too much” thing AA talks about does not come from nowhere.
Still, I agree that their issues tend to be oversimplified in these discussions. If they were real people we would be horribly unhelpful, and even as cartoons that we project some of our own hopes and fears to, we reduce complex issues to quick fixes.
gears
Did you seriously just attempt to equivocate heroin with alcohol? Really? That’s your argument?
Heroin is a massively addictive drug that destroys the lives of almost everyone it touches. There is a reason it has never been as widespread cocaine, or marijuana, or alcohol, or even meth. The reason is because it KILLS most of it’s long term users. There is no such thing as a light user of heroin.
Alcoholism can be a problem, but that is not what is going on here. When I lived in the dorms I had a very good friend who was dependent on alcohol. She got the shakes if she didn’t have any on a given day. It was so bad that she would collect recycling from other residents for beer money. Alcohol dependence is not the need to get wasted. It’s the need to constantly have alcohol in your system. Billy and Ruth abuse alcohol, that’s obvious. But they are NOT alcoholics. They simply lack any developed coping mechanism for their other psychological issues. Ruth’s depression is the root issue, which she drinks to get away from, but due to her past, once she sobers up, that behavior reinforces the depression. If she were an alcoholic, the depression would have long since stopped being the reason for the drinking, the drinking would be a reason unto itself. Billie likewise reinforces her abandonment issues by making herself believe that she deserves to have everyone leave her, but again, the issues are the root cause, not the consequence, of her drinking.
And for the record, I quit smoking 8 months ago after 11 years. I’ve had friends who were alcoholics, meth addicts, and the full spectrum of psychological issues. I completely understand Billie because I struggle with the same abandonment issues. I’m not dismissing alcoholism as a problem, I’m saying that these two do not have it. They have very serious issues that are not alcohol dependance, and use alcohol abuse to escape them. Alcohol abuse =/= Alcohol Dependance. Alcohol Dependence = Alcoholism.
Killjoy
You’re right, but I expect that the “AA” theory of alcoholism will be pushed hard. For a culture that used to preach self-restraint, America has always been bad at the concept of moderation.
(For those who don’t know, AA is a giant lie. It has a success rate exactly the same as attempts to quit cold turkey.
Speaking as the step-son of a man who clawed his way out of alcoholism and now works for the state to help alcoholics and other addicts break their own habits I’m gonna call totally BULLSHIT on this “AA is a giant lie” crap. Does it work for everyone? Absolutely not. Do plenty of people benefit enormously from AA or some similar network of support to beat their addictions? Abso-fucking-lutely. The truth is there are many different paths one can walk to sober up, and what works for one person might not work for another one. No two people’s brains are shaped quite the same way, so no two people will respond to addiction in quite the same way. What is most important is to find the path that works best for YOU, and under no circumstances accept the myth that there is only one solution.
Or, to sum it up, “AA is a giant lie” is itself a dangerous lie, just as awful as the statement “AA is the only solution”.
gears
Missing the point. I am not arguing that alcoholism is not a problem. I am arguing that Billie and Ruth are not alcoholics. They abuse alcohol to cope with personal issues, but they don’t fiend. If the criteria of an alcohol is “Someone who enjoys getting drunk”, or “Someone who drinks to cope with their problems”, I don’t know anyone who isn’t an alcoholic. The definition I’ve always used is the same I use for every other addiction: “Someone who fiends for XXX”. I have drank plenty, smoked about 1/4 my weight in marijuana, and smoked a half a pack of cigarettes a day for 11 years. I’ve only ever fiended for cigarettes.
What is Fiending?
It’s the craving. It’s the need. You can’t understand it if you never felt it, and you don’t need it explained if you have. How it manifested with cigarettes was that I would pick half-smoked cigarettes out of my ashtray when I was out, bum cigarettes off complete strangers, yell at my loved ones over minor things because I was so on edge. The entire time I abused alcohol which a fair degree of frequency. But alcohol never had that kind of hold on me. I have, however, known people who did fiend for it. I had a fiend in the dorms who would collect recycling for beer money, but not to get drunk. She needed to have 2 beers every night or she couldn’t sleep. By 5 pm she would get the shakes. That is fiending. Billie and Ruth have not been shown fiending. They detoxed for a bit, but that’s not the same thing. You get over detoxing. Fiending never goes away. I’ve been 8 months without a cigarette and I still get the urge to bum a cigarette off a random stranger.
gears
1) The entire time I abused alcohol *with* a fair degree of frequency
2) I had a *friend* in the dorms who would collect recycling for beer money, but not to get drunk.
Lel
Alcohol is an addictive substance. Some people (and unfortunately, entire ethnic groups too – I’m in one) are more vulnerable to developing alcohol addiction than others on a genetic level. It’s not just a case of a person becoming emotionally addicted; there are chemical elements too.
Right? Joyce is really gunning to be eating that rug. Walky is doing the best he can for his almost sister, and Joyce’s inability to understand social situations is no longer innocent.
Nah. In the previous page, she had her hair pushed back by her sweat band. The very topmost parts of her hair are still somewhat conformed to that previous shape. Watch, it’s actually getting *more* normal over time as gravity sets in.
That is just barely funny enough to keep me from vomiting because of the basis for that joke. I suppose you deserve some kind of reward…. here’s an internet…. go nuts.
I once used “because unicorns don’t like lime jello” as a reason for something when bickering with my mother. I think we were arguing about which direction to commence crossing an intersection with.
It made sense at the time, in the sense that I didn’t want to make sense. “Here, have a non sequitur to indicate my frustration that we’re even having this argument.”
You’re right, a world where people just deal with their problems wouldn’t be very entertaining at all. It would be like
Joyce: Dorothy, rather than being all pissy and passive aggressive, I want you to know that it makes me a little jealous that you spend so much time with Walky instead of me.
Dorothy: Wow Joyce, I’m sorry I’ve made you feel that way, I’ll try to find more time for you and my other friends instead of using it all on Walky
OR…
Dorothy: I’m sorry Joyce, but I’m doing the best I can. I swear I’m doing my best to spend time with everyone while also keeping up with my studies
And then….
Dorothy: Thanks for telling me how you felt instead of doing something stupid and sitcom-y
185 thoughts on “Related”
Jen Aside
TALK THE TALK AND WALK THE WALK…Y
Plasma Mongoose
FORK THE PORK
arank11
BAKE THE SNAKE
Flailing
Shake & Bake?
Felix
Wake & Bake! ☀
Trrebi
Trust the bust
Doctor_Who
Like the Mike
Bury the Mary
…Despair-ah the Sarah?
Willis, your characters have some hard-ass names to rhyme, you know that?
Plasma Mongoose
VERMOUTH THE RUTH
saltchocolate
Internets—several, just for you…
Yotsuyasan
No, please no. We need to wean her and Billie off of the liquid refreshments of an intoxicating sort! I don’t expect it to happen over night, or without occasional relapsing, but rhyming her name with booze won’t help!
(Although, while I’d rather see them going at it sober… No, bad me! Get that mental image of Billie taking a long drink of Ruth Vermouth out of your head! No! Bad!)
gears
Okay, I’ve seen a lot of these types of posts with regards to Billie and Ruth, and held my tongue until now, but it’s type to speak up.
There is NOTHING wrong with enjoying alcohol. NOTHING.
That is not to say Billie and Ruth do not have issues. They both have very serious issues they should see a therapist about. Alcohol is not, however the problem. Their alcohol use is an attempt to cope with the other issues in their lives that they do not know how else to deal with and are overwhelmed by the very idea of facing.
They do not need to quit drinking, they need to learn self control. They need to know when it is okay to lose control and when it isn’t. They need self confidence, and they need to shake the self image they both have that they are worthless.
None of these things are caused by the drinking. They are what causes the drinking. Them quitting alcohol is treating a symptom, not the disease. Assuming that either of them possessed the strength to quit, which they don’t, it would only make things harder for them because they now would have no coping mechanism to deal with their own feelings of inadequacy. In Ruth’s case, the problem is exacerbated by the fact that her parents were killed by a drunk, but that is only a wrinkle in the fabric that is her negative self image. She thinks she is worthless, and does things to cope with that image that only end up justifying it in her own eyes. She will never be able to quit drinking until she likes herself.
Billie on the other hand has severe abandonment issues. She drinks to forget that, in her eyes, no one really cares about her. It’s why cheerleading was so important to her, it’s why she went to Walky when things started to fall apart, it’s why she has latched onto Ruth, who has been nothing but awful to her since day one, because in Billie’s mind, Ruth’s behavior at least shows she cares.
Both of these women use alcohol to cope with their problems, but it is not in and of itself their problem.
nothri
I will totally admit that this MIGHT be true. But it is also completely true that for some people alcohol is 100% a problem in and of itself. There are a lot of people who slide so far into addiction that alcohol becomes their life, and some people can only be cured of that addiction by avoiding so much as a sip of booze. So yes, there are certainly big problems in their lives that they turned to drinking to “deal” with. But I’d wager that the alcohol will not make their lives one jot easier, and indeed will probably make solving their core issues far more difficult than they otherwise would be.
Ghola
The thing is, the booze is just making their issues worse. Booze is just an object. it’s neither good nor evil. But they’re using that object as a crutch and a band-aid, sticking their heads in the sand to their bigger problems.
Until they remove that crutch, and find a healthier way of healing, that’s not just a band-aide, they’re just going to go down the slippery slope of “It’s not that bad!” until they’re dead in a ditch.. or dead in walky’s bed bare assed, where Dorothy finds them and her legs start accusing Walky of cheating on her via cadavers.
shaking her ass like a bee playing charades…
artemi
Thank you. I’ve been feeling the same way for a while now about those two, and wasn’t entirely sure why or what it was. This pins it down a lot for me. Well said!
Untes
“None of these things are caused by the drinking. They are what causes the drinking. Them quitting alcohol is treating a symptom, not the disease”
Alcoholism -is- a disease. I think you’re playing with fire here with your flippant attitude towards its destructive nature.
At one point you could have argued that a person just needed self control yet could still drink, but this isn’t the case for people with alcoholism.
So yeah, Alcohol is a problem.
Marco
While alcohol may just be a symptom, it serves as gaping wound that becomes an infection and prevents any hope of healing. When you’re drinking to hide from your problem, it follows that you need to STOP DRINKING if you’re ever going to face them.
There’s no world where the kind of drinking Ruth and Billie are getting up to is a good thing. I know that’s not what you meant, but that’s why it needs no defense.
Dorje Sylas
I would respectfully disagree. Especially in Ruth’s case where its established in her own words that the alcoholic is fueling the depression cycle. The alcoholism itself links directly back to the original source of the depression and would be a very large factor in her self-loathing. Neither character has an option of drinking responsilby at this point. They both need to stop, the sooner the better.
Yes, if both characters were real human beings they’d desperately need professional psychologically assistant to help get at the root emotional issues. But that’s never easy for someone already caught, and it certainly doesn’t absolve alcohol’s role. In various militaries there is something called a “force multiplier,” which means something that dramatically increases a groups effectiveness. Alcohol is a depression multiplier, it makes depression much worse.
You are correct that there is nothing wrong with enjoying alcohol responsibly, but that’s not the same as giving it a free pass. Pre-existing depression + alcohol = very bad. Ruth and Billie need to stop drinking, combined with counseling. Doing either alone won’t be enough.
Miles Dryden
Is that avatar from the D&D arcade game? Because, if so, you are awesome.
Felgraf
If someone posted the same set of things but, say, about heroin, would you consider that valid?
When you have a dependency on a drug (and a lot of alcoholics have literally developed a *chemical dependency*, which is why cold-turkey quiting can be fecking dangerous), THAT’S BAD, and in some cases, that *IS* literally the whole of your problems. And some people, through genetics or just crap luck, are more susceptible to developing a dependency/addiction. Sometimes, alcohol/alcoholism *is* the disease.
What caused them to become alcoholics is a problem, too. But that doesn’t mean alcoholism is just a symptom. It can (and, in the case of these two, I think, has) grown into a lovely little monster all of it’s own accord. Even if they resolved their other issues, they’d still have this to battle.
Bagge
I really want in on this discussion, because I have opinions on the matter and I think it deserves a respectful, tactful discussion. However, since the posters above already have said anything I could have added in a tactful and respectful way I’m sort of lost.
Yes, alcohol is not their only problem, but yes alcohol is one of their problems, and drinking has a tendency of become a problem in its own right, not the least because how repeated drinking changes the body. They need help, and one of the things they need help with is finding a way of controlling their drinking. Speaking as an armchair psychologist with a limited view into their situation I would say that quitting altogether is much safer than trying to find a manageable middle ground. That “one glass is one too much” thing AA talks about does not come from nowhere.
Still, I agree that their issues tend to be oversimplified in these discussions. If they were real people we would be horribly unhelpful, and even as cartoons that we project some of our own hopes and fears to, we reduce complex issues to quick fixes.
gears
Did you seriously just attempt to equivocate heroin with alcohol? Really? That’s your argument?
Heroin is a massively addictive drug that destroys the lives of almost everyone it touches. There is a reason it has never been as widespread cocaine, or marijuana, or alcohol, or even meth. The reason is because it KILLS most of it’s long term users. There is no such thing as a light user of heroin.
Alcoholism can be a problem, but that is not what is going on here. When I lived in the dorms I had a very good friend who was dependent on alcohol. She got the shakes if she didn’t have any on a given day. It was so bad that she would collect recycling from other residents for beer money. Alcohol dependence is not the need to get wasted. It’s the need to constantly have alcohol in your system. Billy and Ruth abuse alcohol, that’s obvious. But they are NOT alcoholics. They simply lack any developed coping mechanism for their other psychological issues. Ruth’s depression is the root issue, which she drinks to get away from, but due to her past, once she sobers up, that behavior reinforces the depression. If she were an alcoholic, the depression would have long since stopped being the reason for the drinking, the drinking would be a reason unto itself. Billie likewise reinforces her abandonment issues by making herself believe that she deserves to have everyone leave her, but again, the issues are the root cause, not the consequence, of her drinking.
And for the record, I quit smoking 8 months ago after 11 years. I’ve had friends who were alcoholics, meth addicts, and the full spectrum of psychological issues. I completely understand Billie because I struggle with the same abandonment issues. I’m not dismissing alcoholism as a problem, I’m saying that these two do not have it. They have very serious issues that are not alcohol dependance, and use alcohol abuse to escape them. Alcohol abuse =/= Alcohol Dependance. Alcohol Dependence = Alcoholism.
Killjoy
You’re right, but I expect that the “AA” theory of alcoholism will be pushed hard. For a culture that used to preach self-restraint, America has always been bad at the concept of moderation.
(For those who don’t know, AA is a giant lie. It has a success rate exactly the same as attempts to quit cold turkey.
http://www.wired.com/2010/06/ff_alcoholics_anonymous/2/ )
nothri
Speaking as the step-son of a man who clawed his way out of alcoholism and now works for the state to help alcoholics and other addicts break their own habits I’m gonna call totally BULLSHIT on this “AA is a giant lie” crap. Does it work for everyone? Absolutely not. Do plenty of people benefit enormously from AA or some similar network of support to beat their addictions? Abso-fucking-lutely. The truth is there are many different paths one can walk to sober up, and what works for one person might not work for another one. No two people’s brains are shaped quite the same way, so no two people will respond to addiction in quite the same way. What is most important is to find the path that works best for YOU, and under no circumstances accept the myth that there is only one solution.
Or, to sum it up, “AA is a giant lie” is itself a dangerous lie, just as awful as the statement “AA is the only solution”.
gears
Missing the point. I am not arguing that alcoholism is not a problem. I am arguing that Billie and Ruth are not alcoholics. They abuse alcohol to cope with personal issues, but they don’t fiend. If the criteria of an alcohol is “Someone who enjoys getting drunk”, or “Someone who drinks to cope with their problems”, I don’t know anyone who isn’t an alcoholic. The definition I’ve always used is the same I use for every other addiction: “Someone who fiends for XXX”. I have drank plenty, smoked about 1/4 my weight in marijuana, and smoked a half a pack of cigarettes a day for 11 years. I’ve only ever fiended for cigarettes.
What is Fiending?
It’s the craving. It’s the need. You can’t understand it if you never felt it, and you don’t need it explained if you have. How it manifested with cigarettes was that I would pick half-smoked cigarettes out of my ashtray when I was out, bum cigarettes off complete strangers, yell at my loved ones over minor things because I was so on edge. The entire time I abused alcohol which a fair degree of frequency. But alcohol never had that kind of hold on me. I have, however, known people who did fiend for it. I had a fiend in the dorms who would collect recycling for beer money, but not to get drunk. She needed to have 2 beers every night or she couldn’t sleep. By 5 pm she would get the shakes. That is fiending. Billie and Ruth have not been shown fiending. They detoxed for a bit, but that’s not the same thing. You get over detoxing. Fiending never goes away. I’ve been 8 months without a cigarette and I still get the urge to bum a cigarette off a random stranger.
gears
1) The entire time I abused alcohol *with* a fair degree of frequency
2) I had a *friend* in the dorms who would collect recycling for beer money, but not to get drunk.
Lel
Alcohol is an addictive substance. Some people (and unfortunately, entire ethnic groups too – I’m in one) are more vulnerable to developing alcohol addiction than others on a genetic level. It’s not just a case of a person becoming emotionally addicted; there are chemical elements too.
Lume
Evicerate the pony.
Catullus
Blow the Joe
…Clamber the Amber…?
…Emblazon…the Jason…?
Leorale
‘sa peener the Dina
Jen Aside
Fill us, the Willis
anonymous
Subpoena?
Ghola
Be in, tha E-than!
Camachri
That’s… one way to put it, Dorothy.
Trrebi
Bad Joyce! Don’t subliminally undermine people!
The_Master
Right? Joyce is really gunning to be eating that rug. Walky is doing the best he can for his almost sister, and Joyce’s inability to understand social situations is no longer innocent.
Charlie B. B.
That panel 4 face will haunt my dreams tonight.
LeslieBean4Shizzle
Good gods, that face is terrifying.
APersonAmI
It is Joyce’s panel 2 face that will haunt me… *shiver*
Mr. Random
Her hair is becoming increasingly more frazzled.
Theroy: Her rationality comes from her hair.
Plasma Mongoose
Maybe Dotty also straightens her hair like Sal and in this universe strong shocking emotions cause hair to revert to its natural form.
Kinoko
Nah. In the previous page, she had her hair pushed back by her sweat band. The very topmost parts of her hair are still somewhat conformed to that previous shape. Watch, it’s actually getting *more* normal over time as gravity sets in.
HorchataShake
That fucking face.
Jen Aside
Do you mean her O face, or
tinfoil theory
the one immediately preceeding it?
Plasma Mongoose
*reads Dotty’s last line* “Sooo, that what tampons are for…” 😛
Pantheon the Mantheon
That is just barely funny enough to keep me from vomiting because of the basis for that joke. I suppose you deserve some kind of reward…. here’s an internet…. go nuts.
Plasma Mongoose
I’m just glad you didn’t rag on me for plugging a bloody joke like that. 😛
Catullus
I’ll admit that was clever, but let’s not pad this thread with too heavy a flow of puns.
Jen Aside
or you’ll vomit all ovaries face?
Tunaro
Bloody good show, that was the most visceral torrent of puns I’ve heard in a while.
Pantheon the Mantheon
Alright, enough is enough. I’m putting a stopper on this before anyone else decides to spout off.
Plasma Mongoose
We need to restrict puns like these to only a few times a month.
Pantheon the Mantheon
I guess if we didn’t, the comments would be too saturated.
Pantheon the Mantheon
(Trying to think of one more before bed) Uh… Uh…. PERIOD JOKE!….. (nailed it)
Cephalo the Pod
You people disgust me. Period.
There, how’s that?
saltchocolate
I just don’t cotton to this kind of joking.
Sylvester Crow
Of course they’ll stop entirely after a certain number of years.
Heavensrun
Owwwww.
nothri
I’m not sorry. You’ve brought this all on yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-95uLna-P0
J42
Or she’s just curious to see her boyfriend potentially in action
Yotomoe
That final panel should be used as a response to questions people can’t answer (with slightly altered text to fit the situation)
Sam
Yes.
‘I’m not a rebel.’
‘Then why did you go to a party when your parents said not to?’
‘I DON’T KNOW. MAYBE MY DESIRE TO REBEL ESCAPES THROUGH MY LEGS.’
neeks
I once used “because unicorns don’t like lime jello” as a reason for something when bickering with my mother. I think we were arguing about which direction to commence crossing an intersection with.
It made sense at the time, in the sense that I didn’t want to make sense. “Here, have a non sequitur to indicate my frustration that we’re even having this argument.”
David Herbert
And then tomorrow, Dina answers the door.
Khaner
I need a close up Dorothy in that last panel.
That’s gonna be my new Icon on everything.
Pantheon the Mantheon
Dammit Joyce, cant you just leave well enough alone?
Plasma Mongoose
And where is the fun in that? 😀
Pantheon the Mantheon
You’re right, a world where people just deal with their problems wouldn’t be very entertaining at all. It would be like
Joyce: Dorothy, rather than being all pissy and passive aggressive, I want you to know that it makes me a little jealous that you spend so much time with Walky instead of me.
Dorothy: Wow Joyce, I’m sorry I’ve made you feel that way, I’ll try to find more time for you and my other friends instead of using it all on Walky
OR…
Dorothy: I’m sorry Joyce, but I’m doing the best I can. I swear I’m doing my best to spend time with everyone while also keeping up with my studies
And then….
Dorothy: Thanks for telling me how you felt instead of doing something stupid and sitcom-y
shammers
right though! i thought we were past her annoying phase
timemonkey
Life is annoyance.
Yotomoe
Well enough is an upstanding citizen, damnit!
Pantheon the Mantheon
HE’S GOT A FAMILY FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!
Kernanator