Actually it is 1 to 2 in Sarah’s favor, after all Joe has Amber(despite their lack of sibling-ry.)
Pablo360
Do we know Joe and Amber’s relative ages? I suppose either way she’s the little sister heightwise.
Doctor_Who
I just assumed they were about the same and it didn’t count.
…Though I now suddenly want Sarah and Amber to bond over being big sisters to someone annoyingly cheerful with a triangular smile.
Deanatay
Sarah: Wait… if Joe is your brother…
Amber: And Joyce is your sister…
Sarah: Does that make us…
Amber:… Family?
Amber & Sarah: URRRRRGGHHH
Sarah: I guess we can…
Amber: …Be annoyed about it…
Amber & Sarah: TOGETHER
Z
Start of comic Joe would have been 100% in favor of Sarah and Amber banging.
Current Joe I don’t really know although I can’t imagine him going ultra protective over Sarah and Amber banging. Hopefully less creepy about it.
Jason
I think he’d still be 100% in favour of them banging but probably (hopefully) much less in an objectification way and more “hey go have good sex and good fun and don’t get anything”. I can’t see Joe, even a Joe who learns to be vulnerable and let sex and social interactions be truly meaningful, ever not being supportive of non-toxic sexual encounters. His joke about Danny and Ethan having a date was “man if I was serious I’d be concerned about you having a good and safe time” and I think that’s an attitude he’ll probably always have?
justin8448
Yeah, this. Joe thinks it’s great when his friends have emotional intimacy that also includes fun sexy times. He just thinks it’s dangerous for *him* to have those two combined.
I… can’t think of any landmark to use for determining that.
To the extent that they interact like siblings, Joe tries more for the false-maturity older siblings do and Amber’s more eager to get away with stuff.
BarerMender
They all started as freshmen at the same time. Along with Danny, Joe’s best friend. I’d say they’re all the same age.
Z
They’re all likely within a year of each other, but it’s unlikely Joe and Amber were born at the exact same minute. Even with twins one is older. I’ve seen exactly 0 indication of who was born before who.
misanthropope
cake consumption is a metric for measuring youth.
Z
It doesn’t work when you’re older because then you realize you can buy cake WHENEVER YOU WANT.
Azhrei Vep
It also doesn’t work when you’re younger, because some people get invited to more birthday celebrations than others.
Deanatay
Or MAKE YOUR OWN CAKE
AND EAT IT TOO
Heatth
Wel, Joe is bigger so he is older. It is how this works, right?
Jamie
Amber has a bigger butt, though.
Needfuldoer
Joe’s been around since Roomies!, but Amber debuted in Shortpacked! in 2005…
Maybe one of their birthdays is after September 1 so they had to wait a year, like Sarah.
zee
I’m assuming he has a couple months on her based on nothing
Joyce desperatly trying to look cool until she ends up in a threesome?!
Sirksome
I mean if this were the porn version of DoA I could see that happening. These two definitely seem like they’d feed enough into each other’s bullshit to accidentally get themselves into a threesome.
Xenocide
There are worse ways to experience your first time than with your friend being there offering moral support, I guess.
Jason
Ideally the friend is also the sexual partner, imo.
In Joyce’s case… I don’t know that Liz is close enough to be a friend (despite Joyce going all in, as she does, and also being one of those people who wants to be friends with almost everyone). I don’t think she’s moral support material, at least right now.
Her other female friends wouldn’t work. She’s put Dorothy and Sal on very high (albeit different) pedestals, so their relationships aren’t really even. Becky is a nope. B- Jennifer (I keep wanting to call her Billifer help) is far from the nurturing type imo and would be a terrible support partner. Sarah is too protective. Ethan would probably be too focused on enjoying the dude time himself to worry about Joyce (and with their history that’s awkward af).
The people Joyce would get best moral support from are the people she’s actually potentially be having her first time with imo- a more matured Joe, or Jacob. Jacob, probably a perfect sexual partner for those with less experience or confident- he comes across as patient, caring, nurturing but also wanting to be treated as a person rather than objectified. Joe, with a deep connection and a little more growth, I think could be similar.
But that’s my musings/ramblings and also I’m totally in support of more threesomes. Not in a creeper way, I just wish sex was less taboo and a more viable way of spending time with someone without it being a big deal.
RowenMorland
I’ve been wondering if they’ll run into Joyce’s other friends at some point and in an attempt to avoid being seen and have Liz reveal all of Joyce’s shenanigan speak, Joyce will push Liz up against a wall and make out with her (since she’d probably pick a tropsey bad plan under pressure) only to have Liz have a vaguely mirrored version of Joyce’s line to Becky from when she kissed her.
Decidedly Orthogonal
So Becky kills Liz. Interresting. Eeeeenteresting. Go on…
I mean, on the one hand she apparently doesn’t know what an “edible” looks like (assuming it doesn’t look like a vitamin, which it might do for all I know). On the other hand, she took it, not knowing it was just a vitamin, which is considerably more dedication to the role than I’d have.
I have *not* had them, but I’ve watched people have them (Canadian eh). Good quality edibles look like any other good quality gummy. Standard gummy shape, more transparent rather than translucent (light and stuff is more visible through them), and they’re much softer than standard cheap gummies (as is any good quality gummy). Assuming Joe is also particular about his vitamin gummies, they may be up to snuff to pass the gummy-look-alike for sure, edibles *certainly* are. The big problem is, ya know, taking them out of a *vitamin jar* right in /front/ of Liz. Of course that didn’t seem to slow her down at all. Placebo effect and pseudo-bad-assery and all.
Victor
I’m not Canadian, but I have had Canadian gummy bear edibles. They look and taste exactly like regular gummy bears. I didn’t notice any weed flavor at all.
The Michigan edibles in the form of gummies that I’ve had are squares and have a distinct weed flavor. I’ve had some Illinois non-gummy edibles, but not Illinois gummies, so I don’t have a basis to compare the gummies, the non-gummies had no weed flavor. (They’re in Indiana, so the Michigan and Illinois varieties would probably be the easiest for them to get.)
And vitamin gummies are going to taste like vitamins. Liz may not be familiar with weed gummies, but it’s likely that she would instantly recognize the flavor of children’s chewable vitamins.
Yumi
My gummy vitamins just taste like gummies. They also don’t taste non-gummy children’s chewable vitamins.
Decidedly Orthogonal
So you’re saying they’re ? Yumi?
Kelibath
I have CBD-enhanced vitamins – okay, no THC, but technically they’re edibles that come in a vitamin jar automatically!
I think everybody is missing the distinct possibility that she knows damn well it is not an edible, and she just knows that casually asking a college-aged dude she just met to dig into his stash will ruffle her sister, which she clearly loves doing.
Throwatron
Like, if he produced a legit edible, she would have been happy and taken it. But she wasn’t going to ruin it by pointing out that it isn’t actually one. She does think of her sister as a total square, probably – and Joe had to tell her it was a vitamin gummy, she didn’t immediately say that punchline to him, he said it to her. If the joke was that it was that obvious, I think Sarah probably would have made it.
Like… Yeah, “I’d Die For You” was… let’s go with Problematic for Joyce, due to Carol saying it mere days after Toedad screaming it with a rifle in his hand…
But on the other, Joyce has maybe had time to heal from that, or she might only feel the sweet sentiments coming from Sarah.
Then again, I could also see it going VERY WRONG in a “OH GOD I AM THE QUEEN OF THE BRAIN PARASITES AND I MUST SECLUDE MYSELF FORTHWITH.
It wasn’t even mere days if I remember right, it was later in the same day.
Regalli
Yep. End of that storyline. That evening.
I suspect Joyce would recognize that killing/dying for Joyce or Liz on Sarah’s part is limited to active threats to them (ie, Ryan,) but while rational brain likely knows that… trauma brain almost certainly still associates it with ‘I know better than you what’s best for you, and I’m not afraid to hurt you in the process or martyr myself for what I perceive is what’s best for you,’ which is one of the things that really started breaking Joyce’s faith. Once she heard it from Ross and then Carol, she couldn’t take comfort in Jesus doing the same for humanity.
That was his original intent. When the shirt first debuted he tried to get Danny to stand so the arrow was pointing to him.
Shade
Of course anyone with any idea about that kind of thing is going to dodge that arrow because nice guy has rather… negative implications about how nice that guy actually is.
Thag Simmons
Yes but that sort of social awareness is something Joe stuggles with
Decidedly Orthogonal
Also, there are nice guys and gals as they are, still nice, and the meme-able trend of ‘nice’ guys and gals … who aren’t.
I think the point of Joe’s shirt is simply that he figures it doesn’t point at *him*. I look forward to it ending up on a floor (or Joyce), and pointing at Joe.
163 thoughts on “Edible”
Ana Chronistic
WELL THAT WENT THERE HUH
…so which is it
Decidedly Orthogonal
Joe nailed it one.
Pablo360
Which one?
Z
I’ve been told that any hole is a goal.
Decidedly Orthogonal
OMD Nailed it *in* one. smh
Nono
Joe 1, Sarah 0.
Doctor_Who
More like Joe 0, Sarah 2 if we’re scoring on little sisters they’re allowed to have.
Kyrik Michalowski
Actually it is 1 to 2 in Sarah’s favor, after all Joe has Amber(despite their lack of sibling-ry.)
Pablo360
Do we know Joe and Amber’s relative ages? I suppose either way she’s the little sister heightwise.
Doctor_Who
I just assumed they were about the same and it didn’t count.
…Though I now suddenly want Sarah and Amber to bond over being big sisters to someone annoyingly cheerful with a triangular smile.
Deanatay
Sarah: Wait… if Joe is your brother…
Amber: And Joyce is your sister…
Sarah: Does that make us…
Amber:… Family?
Amber & Sarah: URRRRRGGHHH
Sarah: I guess we can…
Amber: …Be annoyed about it…
Amber & Sarah: TOGETHER
Z
Start of comic Joe would have been 100% in favor of Sarah and Amber banging.
Current Joe I don’t really know although I can’t imagine him going ultra protective over Sarah and Amber banging. Hopefully less creepy about it.
Jason
I think he’d still be 100% in favour of them banging but probably (hopefully) much less in an objectification way and more “hey go have good sex and good fun and don’t get anything”. I can’t see Joe, even a Joe who learns to be vulnerable and let sex and social interactions be truly meaningful, ever not being supportive of non-toxic sexual encounters. His joke about Danny and Ethan having a date was “man if I was serious I’d be concerned about you having a good and safe time” and I think that’s an attitude he’ll probably always have?
justin8448
Yeah, this. Joe thinks it’s great when his friends have emotional intimacy that also includes fun sexy times. He just thinks it’s dangerous for *him* to have those two combined.
Nono
Amber is younger than Joe, right?
Jamie
I… can’t think of any landmark to use for determining that.
To the extent that they interact like siblings, Joe tries more for the false-maturity older siblings do and Amber’s more eager to get away with stuff.
BarerMender
They all started as freshmen at the same time. Along with Danny, Joe’s best friend. I’d say they’re all the same age.
Z
They’re all likely within a year of each other, but it’s unlikely Joe and Amber were born at the exact same minute. Even with twins one is older. I’ve seen exactly 0 indication of who was born before who.
misanthropope
cake consumption is a metric for measuring youth.
Z
It doesn’t work when you’re older because then you realize you can buy cake WHENEVER YOU WANT.
Azhrei Vep
It also doesn’t work when you’re younger, because some people get invited to more birthday celebrations than others.
Deanatay
Or MAKE YOUR OWN CAKE
AND EAT IT TOO
Heatth
Wel, Joe is bigger so he is older. It is how this works, right?
Jamie
Amber has a bigger butt, though.
Needfuldoer
Joe’s been around since Roomies!, but Amber debuted in Shortpacked! in 2005…
Maybe one of their birthdays is after September 1 so they had to wait a year, like Sarah.
zee
I’m assuming he has a couple months on her based on nothing
Nono
Also, is this a Protective Siblings Group now?
Clif
Alternatively, Sarah just likes killing people.
Opus the Poet
Enjoying killing people doesn’t preclude being a (over) protective sibling.
Sirksome
Joe is currently zero for two on Sarah’s little sisters. For how long though? That’s the question…..For how long?
Decidedly Orthogonal
Straight from 0/2 to 2/2 in one event!
… Keep it up Yotomoe
Undrave
Joyce desperatly trying to look cool until she ends up in a threesome?!
Sirksome
I mean if this were the porn version of DoA I could see that happening. These two definitely seem like they’d feed enough into each other’s bullshit to accidentally get themselves into a threesome.
Xenocide
There are worse ways to experience your first time than with your friend being there offering moral support, I guess.
Jason
Ideally the friend is also the sexual partner, imo.
In Joyce’s case… I don’t know that Liz is close enough to be a friend (despite Joyce going all in, as she does, and also being one of those people who wants to be friends with almost everyone). I don’t think she’s moral support material, at least right now.
Her other female friends wouldn’t work. She’s put Dorothy and Sal on very high (albeit different) pedestals, so their relationships aren’t really even. Becky is a nope. B- Jennifer (I keep wanting to call her Billifer help) is far from the nurturing type imo and would be a terrible support partner. Sarah is too protective. Ethan would probably be too focused on enjoying the dude time himself to worry about Joyce (and with their history that’s awkward af).
The people Joyce would get best moral support from are the people she’s actually potentially be having her first time with imo- a more matured Joe, or Jacob. Jacob, probably a perfect sexual partner for those with less experience or confident- he comes across as patient, caring, nurturing but also wanting to be treated as a person rather than objectified. Joe, with a deep connection and a little more growth, I think could be similar.
But that’s my musings/ramblings and also I’m totally in support of more threesomes. Not in a creeper way, I just wish sex was less taboo and a more viable way of spending time with someone without it being a big deal.
RowenMorland
I’ve been wondering if they’ll run into Joyce’s other friends at some point and in an attempt to avoid being seen and have Liz reveal all of Joyce’s shenanigan speak, Joyce will push Liz up against a wall and make out with her (since she’d probably pick a tropsey bad plan under pressure) only to have Liz have a vaguely mirrored version of Joyce’s line to Becky from when she kissed her.
Decidedly Orthogonal
So Becky kills Liz. Interresting. Eeeeenteresting. Go on…
Kyrik Michalowski
Joe cutting right to the heart of the matter.
Clif
it’s a surprisingly good question.
justin8448
Joe has proven himself to be rather astute on multiple occasions.
King Daniel
Okay, now I’m sure Liz is putting up an act for Joyce herself.
Decidedly Orthogonal
It does appear that she didn’t share with Joyce. On the other hand, I’m also glad she didn’t try pushing it on Joyce (yet?)
Daibhid C
I mean, on the one hand she apparently doesn’t know what an “edible” looks like (assuming it doesn’t look like a vitamin, which it might do for all I know). On the other hand, she took it, not knowing it was just a vitamin, which is considerably more dedication to the role than I’d have.
Decidedly Orthogonal
I have *not* had them, but I’ve watched people have them (Canadian eh). Good quality edibles look like any other good quality gummy. Standard gummy shape, more transparent rather than translucent (light and stuff is more visible through them), and they’re much softer than standard cheap gummies (as is any good quality gummy). Assuming Joe is also particular about his vitamin gummies, they may be up to snuff to pass the gummy-look-alike for sure, edibles *certainly* are. The big problem is, ya know, taking them out of a *vitamin jar* right in /front/ of Liz. Of course that didn’t seem to slow her down at all. Placebo effect and pseudo-bad-assery and all.
Victor
I’m not Canadian, but I have had Canadian gummy bear edibles. They look and taste exactly like regular gummy bears. I didn’t notice any weed flavor at all.
The Michigan edibles in the form of gummies that I’ve had are squares and have a distinct weed flavor. I’ve had some Illinois non-gummy edibles, but not Illinois gummies, so I don’t have a basis to compare the gummies, the non-gummies had no weed flavor. (They’re in Indiana, so the Michigan and Illinois varieties would probably be the easiest for them to get.)
And vitamin gummies are going to taste like vitamins. Liz may not be familiar with weed gummies, but it’s likely that she would instantly recognize the flavor of children’s chewable vitamins.
Yumi
My gummy vitamins just taste like gummies. They also don’t taste non-gummy children’s chewable vitamins.
Decidedly Orthogonal
So you’re saying they’re ? Yumi?
Kelibath
I have CBD-enhanced vitamins – okay, no THC, but technically they’re edibles that come in a vitamin jar automatically!
Throwatron
I think everybody is missing the distinct possibility that she knows damn well it is not an edible, and she just knows that casually asking a college-aged dude she just met to dig into his stash will ruffle her sister, which she clearly loves doing.
Throwatron
Like, if he produced a legit edible, she would have been happy and taken it. But she wasn’t going to ruin it by pointing out that it isn’t actually one. She does think of her sister as a total square, probably – and Joe had to tell her it was a vitamin gummy, she didn’t immediately say that punchline to him, he said it to her. If the joke was that it was that obvious, I think Sarah probably would have made it.
thejeff
Given that first panel I wonder if Joyce is putting up more of an act than we thought – and if it’s aimed at Sarah.
RassilonTDavros
“I’d die for her.”
Sarah, please never tell Joyce that
StClair
ouch.
Regalli
Oof, yeah.
Khyrin
I.. Kinda want to see the fallout?
Like… Yeah, “I’d Die For You” was… let’s go with Problematic for Joyce, due to Carol saying it mere days after Toedad screaming it with a rifle in his hand…
But on the other, Joyce has maybe had time to heal from that, or she might only feel the sweet sentiments coming from Sarah.
Then again, I could also see it going VERY WRONG in a “OH GOD I AM THE QUEEN OF THE BRAIN PARASITES AND I MUST SECLUDE MYSELF FORTHWITH.
King Daniel
It wasn’t even mere days if I remember right, it was later in the same day.
Regalli
Yep. End of that storyline. That evening.
I suspect Joyce would recognize that killing/dying for Joyce or Liz on Sarah’s part is limited to active threats to them (ie, Ryan,) but while rational brain likely knows that… trauma brain almost certainly still associates it with ‘I know better than you what’s best for you, and I’m not afraid to hurt you in the process or martyr myself for what I perceive is what’s best for you,’ which is one of the things that really started breaking Joyce’s faith. Once she heard it from Ross and then Carol, she couldn’t take comfort in Jesus doing the same for humanity.
Thag Simmons
Does the “I’d kill for you” make it better or worse
Spencer
Besides it’s much more in-character that Sarah would kill for Joyce.
carl320
Why not both?
deathjavu
See it’s genius, because Sarah can only kill him once.
Deanatay
“Nah, I’ll find a way to murder you twice.”
Thag Simmons
And that’s when Joe was murdered.
EpochFlame
The Nice Guy arrow isn’t ever going to point at anyone, is it.
New arrow-related running gag, to go with This Side Up?
Pablo360
It’s pointing to Batman.
Diane
I’d laugh if it’s actually pointing in the direction of Danny. Or someone that’s actually a nice guy.
Proxiehunter
That was his original intent. When the shirt first debuted he tried to get Danny to stand so the arrow was pointing to him.
Shade
Of course anyone with any idea about that kind of thing is going to dodge that arrow because nice guy has rather… negative implications about how nice that guy actually is.
Thag Simmons
Yes but that sort of social awareness is something Joe stuggles with
Decidedly Orthogonal
Also, there are nice guys and gals as they are, still nice, and the meme-able trend of ‘nice’ guys and gals … who aren’t.
I think the point of Joe’s shirt is simply that he figures it doesn’t point at *him*. I look forward to it ending up on a floor (or Joyce), and pointing at Joe.
Z
Aren’t Walky and Booster their next door neighbors on that side? Also I’m sorry if I’ve totally fucked up their name.
Cuz Walky can be a mess but he also definitely counts as nice, overall, so I’d say it’s accurate.
Thag Simmons
I don’t know. I don’t think much of he layout for the Boy’s wing has ever been established like the Girl’s wing layout has been