My browser devtools tell me it’s the ‘abbr’ tag. Also, ‘acronym’ is depleted from HTML5, so if you have to use one of them, use ‘abbr’ (although the other should work here, it’s best not to get into the habit of using an antiquated tag). But unless you want the weird underling, just put your desired hovertext as a title attribute in the ‘a’ tag.
Wow! Good for Joyce, I did not expect her to make it back to the dorm by herself but she’s getting better. And now time for her to meet her ex’s new man.
It would not have surprised me if the doors opened outward, leading to a hilarious smack into doors that don’t open that way.
cbwroses
Weren’t you someone different earlier?
butts
What an interesting philosophical question. If human consciousness is discontinuous, being divided every day by the biological need to sleep, then to what degree is a person “someone different” as time goes by? And at what rate? Certainly, the person I was ten years ago is a different person from who I am now. And yet I seem to be the person who woke up in my bed this morning— if, indeed, we can say with confidence that I existed at any time in the past. For the only evidence I have that any time prior to the present moment existed in any meaningful way is my memory, and I merely assume that that can be trusted to represent reality. But the fallibility of memory is well-established; if my memories of previous events can be false, how do I disambiguate “the past” from my memory of it? Can events exist independent of my observation of them? Certainly I have no objective evidence of this; indeed, how could I?
butts
For example, I clearly recall typing an /i bracket to end that set of italics after the word “any.” And yet the Universe sits here, staring me in the face, providing documentation that contradicts this. Can I trust the Universe more than I trust my own brain? I am my own brain. My observations of the universe exist within my own brain. The second I look away from the preceding post, my observation of my failure to close a fucking HTML tag is as much a memory as my recalling that I didn’t forget to close it in the first place.
butts
Or maybe I just changed email addresses because I don’t want gravatar to put this picture of a cartoonish human’s butt everywhere that accepts a gravatar with my personal email. Who knows?
Chronos
Whoa…
That was all, like, totally deep, and junk…
Nothri
Indeed. Are we men that dream of butterflies or butterflies that dream of men? And if so who are the women? So many questions…
skart
Don’t worry, I think the italics worked stylistically. I felt like I was reading an academic article in a philosophy journal.
Adam
You can have faith our demon overlord know what they are doing
You must stop asking yourself these questions,
Lest you discover the horrid Truth … that Tacos dont exist.
You are forewarned.
And I dont mean something, NoT so Bad, like … World Without Shrimp.
Yeah, this is a heartbreakingly adorable way of dealing with the aftermath of trauma. I love the way she’s cheerleading for herself, and how she’s not self-conscious about celebrating an achievement that basically amounts to doing something that would be effortless to most people. I think it encapsulates her resilience.
I just recently saw a movie trailer for the sequel to hotel transylvania (an appalling movie) set to ‘cake by the ocean’
carms
i shouls specify that its an animated brightly coloured movie for small children (that sets up UNLIMITED incredibly awful gendered restrictions and faux-mantic tropes et al ad infinitum)
Don’t you know art is not supposed to be judged on its merit, but on whether it agrees with the reviewer’s politics? Oh, you can _pretend_ to be judging it on artistic merit …
thejeff
The alternative is that art must be judged completely independently of message. Politics, message, meaning all completely irrelevant next to whatever it is we’re calling “artistic merit”.
You should, for example, be able to enjoy art that paints people like you as worthless or evil.
Of course the truth lies in between. In any art, both the “artistic merit” and the message matter. Both intentional meaning and implicit assumptions.
To be fair, I’ve haven’t seen Hotel Transylvania, so I’ve got no idea what the problems with it might be.
…Must be some other Methodists.
I don’t know of any Methodists who have ever expressed any problems with dancing. Unless you were expecting THEM to get out on the dance floor, because for a lot of us, that’s just not happening.
I do know around here the Baptists are against dancing, but (a lot of) their kids still go to the school dances. Think “Footloose”, but with fewer torches and pitchforks.
Southern Baptist Convention specifically, the one that only recently stopped saying owning slaves was God’s Way, not to be tampered with by Man, was the Baptist group that was saying dancing was sinful. Another reason I’m a Wiccan.
Now I understand why Americans defend the “Free Speech” thing so viciously. If they didn’t a lot of people would get locked up for saying truly evil shit. It baffles me to no end that the Westboro bunch was not lynched yet by the families grieving for their dead children…
Freemage
Well, the other part of the theory goes that if you allow the curtailing of free speech, a brief period where the truly evil people are in power *coughcough* might lead to a lot of good people being locked up.
The problem, lately, is that a lot people saying truly evil shit think that ‘free speech’ also means that they shouldn’t have to face ANY consequences for it, including being told that the shit they are saying is truly evil.
thejeff
Of course the counter is that if the truly evil people get into power, they’ll lock good people up anyway if they can.
And “if they can” is driven far more by institutions and popular resistance than laws. Laws can quickly be changed or just reinterpreted as necessary.
That second paragraph though is surely true. Accusations of bigotry are being treated as more horrendous than the bigotry itself.
Eldritch Gentleman
Pretty much, Hitler got the power and then used and abused it to slaughter all who opposed him. Evil people who will get real power won’t give a damn about laws, they’ll just change them and use them however they want.
Freemage
Ironically, one of the good things about the U.S. system is that it’s cumbersome–the interplay of the bureaucracy, the courts, the polity, even the state vs. federal system–all of it causes all sorts of brakes on various efforts. This makes it harder than you’d think to just institute blanket change, even for evil sacks of shit. Unfortunately, this can also mean that changes that do get made can take forever to get rid of.
Of course, it’d help if we actually taught our kids real history, but the ostensible left in this country foolishly thought that people would WANT their kids told the truth, even if they were ‘home-schooled’. So the evil shits have had a generation or two to work on producing voters who genuinely believe that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, as a for-instance.
thejeff
While that’s helping a little bit in the current situation, it’s mostly a problem. At least for those of us who want government to do things to help people. Not just get rid of changes that get made, but removing bad things that have been there since the beginning. Changes in the laws discriminating against LGBTQ folks, for example.
A major part of our problem now lies in a party that preaches that government is the problem and the less it does the better. (They don’t live up to that when in power of course, but that’s what they run on.) That means that obstruction works for them – even when people don’t like the results of the obstruction, it comes across as “government is broken, government can’t work” and thus reinforces that basic message. Democrats can obstruct really bad things and that works in the short term, but it still reinforces the “Government can’t work” idea and that supports Republicans in the long run. It’s a nasty trap we’re in and I don’t see a way out.
There’s going to be a backlash to Trump – we’re already seeing it in special elections, but even when Democrats retake power, it’s likely to be reflected in more distrust of government and wanting more limits, which will work against Democratic policy goals and help bring the GOP back.
As for the left and schools, it’s kind of worse than that and goes far beyond home-schools. The left in the US was decimated in the aftermath of the Civil Rights Movement and the efforts to integrate neighborhoods and schools, even in the North. White people rebelled against busing. White flight emptied the cities. Especially in the south, whites pulled their kids out of public schools and turned to private usually Christian schools – which remained segregated for decades. And as you say taught the whole myth of the Lost Cause. Outside the south, schools generally stayed mostly segregated simply by geography. White people moved where more desirable schools were and that was often partly driven by how few black students they had.
thejeff
It’s also worth remembering that the Westboro bunch is as much a legal family scam as a religion. Their business model is provoking people into attacking them and then making money off lawsuits.
Eldritch Gentleman
Ah that makes a lot of sense. Can’t win with them either way. I was pretty amused though when I read about ways various people mess with Westboro to stop them from causing trouble. Like blocking their cars in parking lots or revving up their motorcycles during funerals. Still in a sane country they wouldn’t be allowed to pull this shit…
Freemage
The counter-protests at Comic-Con and Origins Game Fairs were also pretty epic.
I was raised in the Church of Christ-not Baptist-and they took the no dancing thing very seriously. I was taught growing up that only married couples could dance and only in private (somehow ballet was fine, but folk dancing wasn’t). And when I went to a church of christ college, only boys and girls couldn’t dance together. Now I’m a heathen and brazenly do the Charleston in front of anyone.
Oh gods. I’d give almost anything for an edit button. I’m too lazy to address all of them, but for clarification boys and girls couldn’t dance together-boys could dance with boys and girls with girls. I just got home from work, and my brain is slightly borked.
Also, I accidentally capitalized church; in the coC they get weirdly adamant that you shouldn’t do so. They get weirdly adamant about a lot of things.
Mr D
Tehehehe you said cock
doombunny88
I know what I did. It’s pretty common for people to abbreviate it as coC. I don’t think most of them realize it. Bless their hearts. Now it’s a way for me to passive aggressively think “ha, they’re writing cock and don’t know it.” Because I’m a mature, well-adjusted adult
Screwball
So boy and girl Humans could dance with each other but not with the other gender? Was this 1 of those religions where you also couldn’t date the same gender? In other words, coud only dance with the same gender but dance only with the other gender?
…I don’t understand you Humans at times…
Screwball
Scraplets, I meant they could only dance with the same gender but only DATE the other gender?
Old mobiles, dumb machines…
doombunny88
@Screwball Yep. Boys could dance with boys, and girls with girls. But you have to date the opposite gender. It’s fine because same-sex attraction doesn’t exist. Totally a choice.
@Rabid Rabbit. Exactly. I know I grew up entirely fearing the opposite gender because boys=sex and sex=hellfire, which weirdly made girls less intimidating and contributed to me realizing I didn’t actually care what people had between their legs.
As a side note, I do not in any way mean to demean Joyce’s experiences (and I suppose by extension Willis’), but it always catches me off guard that she talks about going to different kinds of churches. Because according to the coC, anyone who doesn’t rigidly follow the commonly accepted tenets of the coC automatically goes to hell. Like, even if you say your’e coC, you could still be in danger of Hell if you use instrumental music or clap. That’s bad, and I feel bad, but it’s still the first though I have.
Rabid Rabbit
So boys could only dance with boys, and girls could only dance with girls…
Let me guess. This church frowned on homosexuality, but also frowned on dancing because it might lead to lasciviousness. And yet somehow never considered that disallowing cross-gender dancing might lead to homosexual lasciviousness…
Freemage
Once you’re that deep down the rabbit hole, you stop worrying about things like ‘logic’ and ‘common sense’.
thejeff
The rules were likely set up long before homosexuality was an openly talked of possibility.
Andy
I live in a town with a Church of Christ university and some other Christian colleges and they get into the weirdest theological arguments. The CoC university is currently in a turmoil over whether students who are employed by the university can date someone of the same gender.
doombunny88
I’m super curious to know which university that is, but understand if you don’t want to say so.
I went to Freed-Hardeman University, way out in west Tennessee. I graduated in 2010, and back then I’m sure they wouldn’t even hesitate to ban people employed by the university from having same-sex relationships. From what I can tell not much has changed, though I haven’t been back since I graduated cuz I find a lot of stuff about them pretty abhorrent now.
Also confusing the matter when attempting to figure out Baptists’ opinions on…anything: One of the few things Baptists all agree about is that all decisions about theology and practice are ultimately up to each individual congregation. Unlike more hierarchical denominations, just because the Southern Baptist Convention (or any other Baptist convention) releases a statement about something doesn’t mean that statement applies to every Southern Baptist Church, it just means that a bunch of Southern Baptist Churches sent representatives to get together and most of them agreed on this thing and so they wrote it up as a statement. Now, at some point, if there’s a church that doesn’t seem to agree with all the other Southern Baptists on much of anything, the rest of them can say “we’re not really sure why you’re still showing up to our meeting… and you might be nice folks (or heathens, but whatever)… but you don’t really have anything in common with us and we don’t really want you to keep showing up and saying strange things because clearly whatever you are, it’s not the same as what Southern Baptist is anymore” But usually even to make the church stop showing up they have to be banned at the regional level because SBC national (or any of the other national baptist conferences) doesn’t have much actual power, just a ton of influence. Also they don’t really have any power to make a church take “Baptist” out of their name.
All that to say, even if you limit it to Southern Baptists, some of them have never objected to dancing!
254 thoughts on “Meeee”
Ana Chronistic
“submitted for your approval”: https://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Jesus-Featuring-Miraculous-Moves/dp/0762444142
Pablo360
Did you just use the abbreviation or acronym tag to add hovertext to an html element that already supports hovertext?
Inahc
good thing I’m on a device with a mouse right now so I can hover.
Tawdry Quirks
My browser devtools tell me it’s the ‘abbr’ tag. Also, ‘acronym’ is depleted from HTML5, so if you have to use one of them, use ‘abbr’ (although the other should work here, it’s best not to get into the habit of using an antiquated tag). But unless you want the weird underling, just put your desired hovertext as a title attribute in the ‘a’ tag.
Lieutenant Dan
Every villain needs a weird underling.
Ana Chronistic
I said I wanted it to be visible
Kaidah
I love that Amazon says that book is most frequently bought together with “The Farting Animals Coloring Book”.
weirderthanweird
I like the images that have Jesus handing himself and holding a whip (not at the same time)
AnvilPro
Wow! Good for Joyce, I did not expect her to make it back to the dorm by herself but she’s getting better. And now time for her to meet her ex’s new man.
cbwroses
I’m pleasantly surprised.
I’m also surprised she didn’t hurt herself since it looks like she has her eyes closed in the first panel.
butts
It would not have surprised me if the doors opened outward, leading to a hilarious smack into doors that don’t open that way.
cbwroses
Weren’t you someone different earlier?
butts
What an interesting philosophical question. If human consciousness is discontinuous, being divided every day by the biological need to sleep, then to what degree is a person “someone different” as time goes by? And at what rate? Certainly, the person I was ten years ago is a different person from who I am now. And yet I seem to be the person who woke up in my bed this morning— if, indeed, we can say with confidence that I existed at any time in the past. For the only evidence I have that any time prior to the present moment existed in any meaningful way is my memory, and I merely assume that that can be trusted to represent reality. But the fallibility of memory is well-established; if my memories of previous events can be false, how do I disambiguate “the past” from my memory of it? Can events exist independent of my observation of them? Certainly I have no objective evidence of this; indeed, how could I?
butts
For example, I clearly recall typing an /i bracket to end that set of italics after the word “any.” And yet the Universe sits here, staring me in the face, providing documentation that contradicts this. Can I trust the Universe more than I trust my own brain? I am my own brain. My observations of the universe exist within my own brain. The second I look away from the preceding post, my observation of my failure to close a fucking HTML tag is as much a memory as my recalling that I didn’t forget to close it in the first place.
butts
Or maybe I just changed email addresses because I don’t want gravatar to put this picture of a cartoonish human’s butt everywhere that accepts a gravatar with my personal email. Who knows?
Chronos
Whoa…
That was all, like, totally deep, and junk…
Nothri
Indeed. Are we men that dream of butterflies or butterflies that dream of men? And if so who are the women? So many questions…
skart
Don’t worry, I think the italics worked stylistically. I felt like I was reading an academic article in a philosophy journal.
Adam
You can have faith our demon overlord know what they are doing
You must stop asking yourself these questions,
Lest you discover the horrid Truth … that Tacos dont exist.
You are forewarned.
And I dont mean something, NoT so Bad, like … World Without Shrimp.
This is some some truly Trumpworld level stuff.
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/227
hof1991
Thanks. Now I’ve seen Good Cop, Existentially Bad Cop and I can’t unsee it.
Adam
Nothing to see here, stopping looking to deeply into things,
and No ones Tacos have to go bye-bye.
Carry on
Yumi
I’m pretty sure they were too.
Deanatay
Why, yes, butts, I was admiring one of Joyce’s physical features today, as well.
Gwen
Yeah, this is a heartbreakingly adorable way of dealing with the aftermath of trauma. I love the way she’s cheerleading for herself, and how she’s not self-conscious about celebrating an achievement that basically amounts to doing something that would be effortless to most people. I think it encapsulates her resilience.
Doctor_Who
As serious as I know Joyce is about her faith, I refuse to believe there was even a two year period of her life when she refrained from dancing.
Girl cha-cha’d out of the womb to the tune of an upbeat pop track about unicorns.
Viktoria
Someone who’s better at music than me needs to make a playlist of all the songs that Joyce loves that she doesn’t realize are about sex.
carms
I just recently saw a movie trailer for the sequel to hotel transylvania (an appalling movie) set to ‘cake by the ocean’
carms
i shouls specify that its an animated brightly coloured movie for small children (that sets up UNLIMITED incredibly awful gendered restrictions and faux-mantic tropes et al ad infinitum)
Schpoonman
Well yeah, it’s a movie starring Adam Sandler.
AeroQC
Your gravatar is epically appropriate for the level of sarcasm present.
Adam
My brain did a Cross of Hotel New Hampshire, and
Transylvania 6-5000.
seems ok to me
Zee
excUSE you hotel Transylvania and it’s sequel are lovely family films and the only good work Sandler has done in years
DSL
Don’t you know art is not supposed to be judged on its merit, but on whether it agrees with the reviewer’s politics? Oh, you can _pretend_ to be judging it on artistic merit …
thejeff
The alternative is that art must be judged completely independently of message. Politics, message, meaning all completely irrelevant next to whatever it is we’re calling “artistic merit”.
You should, for example, be able to enjoy art that paints people like you as worthless or evil.
Of course the truth lies in between. In any art, both the “artistic merit” and the message matter. Both intentional meaning and implicit assumptions.
To be fair, I’ve haven’t seen Hotel Transylvania, so I’ve got no idea what the problems with it might be.
C.T Phipps
It was illegal until Kevin Bacon took care of it.
JetstreamGW
Speaking as a Texan, I’ve heard a lot of baptist stuff, but I’ve never heard the “dancing is a sin” thing.
Agemegos
Methodists. Methodists frown on sex because it leads to dancing.
SeanR
…Must be some other Methodists.
I don’t know of any Methodists who have ever expressed any problems with dancing. Unless you were expecting THEM to get out on the dance floor, because for a lot of us, that’s just not happening.
I do know around here the Baptists are against dancing, but (a lot of) their kids still go to the school dances. Think “Footloose”, but with fewer torches and pitchforks.
McBogue
Apparently you’ve met the Rhythm Methodists.
Chronos
A passable name for a Christian Rock band.
All-Purpose Guru
I was raised Methodist and dated the minister’s kid.
Methodists DEFINITELY have no problem with sex.
Opus the Poet
Southern Baptist Convention specifically, the one that only recently stopped saying owning slaves was God’s Way, not to be tampered with by Man, was the Baptist group that was saying dancing was sinful. Another reason I’m a Wiccan.
Eldritch Gentleman
Now I understand why Americans defend the “Free Speech” thing so viciously. If they didn’t a lot of people would get locked up for saying truly evil shit. It baffles me to no end that the Westboro bunch was not lynched yet by the families grieving for their dead children…
Freemage
Well, the other part of the theory goes that if you allow the curtailing of free speech, a brief period where the truly evil people are in power *coughcough* might lead to a lot of good people being locked up.
The problem, lately, is that a lot people saying truly evil shit think that ‘free speech’ also means that they shouldn’t have to face ANY consequences for it, including being told that the shit they are saying is truly evil.
thejeff
Of course the counter is that if the truly evil people get into power, they’ll lock good people up anyway if they can.
And “if they can” is driven far more by institutions and popular resistance than laws. Laws can quickly be changed or just reinterpreted as necessary.
That second paragraph though is surely true. Accusations of bigotry are being treated as more horrendous than the bigotry itself.
Eldritch Gentleman
Pretty much, Hitler got the power and then used and abused it to slaughter all who opposed him. Evil people who will get real power won’t give a damn about laws, they’ll just change them and use them however they want.
Freemage
Ironically, one of the good things about the U.S. system is that it’s cumbersome–the interplay of the bureaucracy, the courts, the polity, even the state vs. federal system–all of it causes all sorts of brakes on various efforts. This makes it harder than you’d think to just institute blanket change, even for evil sacks of shit. Unfortunately, this can also mean that changes that do get made can take forever to get rid of.
Of course, it’d help if we actually taught our kids real history, but the ostensible left in this country foolishly thought that people would WANT their kids told the truth, even if they were ‘home-schooled’. So the evil shits have had a generation or two to work on producing voters who genuinely believe that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, as a for-instance.
thejeff
While that’s helping a little bit in the current situation, it’s mostly a problem. At least for those of us who want government to do things to help people. Not just get rid of changes that get made, but removing bad things that have been there since the beginning. Changes in the laws discriminating against LGBTQ folks, for example.
A major part of our problem now lies in a party that preaches that government is the problem and the less it does the better. (They don’t live up to that when in power of course, but that’s what they run on.) That means that obstruction works for them – even when people don’t like the results of the obstruction, it comes across as “government is broken, government can’t work” and thus reinforces that basic message. Democrats can obstruct really bad things and that works in the short term, but it still reinforces the “Government can’t work” idea and that supports Republicans in the long run. It’s a nasty trap we’re in and I don’t see a way out.
There’s going to be a backlash to Trump – we’re already seeing it in special elections, but even when Democrats retake power, it’s likely to be reflected in more distrust of government and wanting more limits, which will work against Democratic policy goals and help bring the GOP back.
As for the left and schools, it’s kind of worse than that and goes far beyond home-schools. The left in the US was decimated in the aftermath of the Civil Rights Movement and the efforts to integrate neighborhoods and schools, even in the North. White people rebelled against busing. White flight emptied the cities. Especially in the south, whites pulled their kids out of public schools and turned to private usually Christian schools – which remained segregated for decades. And as you say taught the whole myth of the Lost Cause. Outside the south, schools generally stayed mostly segregated simply by geography. White people moved where more desirable schools were and that was often partly driven by how few black students they had.
thejeff
It’s also worth remembering that the Westboro bunch is as much a legal family scam as a religion. Their business model is provoking people into attacking them and then making money off lawsuits.
Eldritch Gentleman
Ah that makes a lot of sense. Can’t win with them either way. I was pretty amused though when I read about ways various people mess with Westboro to stop them from causing trouble. Like blocking their cars in parking lots or revving up their motorcycles during funerals. Still in a sane country they wouldn’t be allowed to pull this shit…
Freemage
The counter-protests at Comic-Con and Origins Game Fairs were also pretty epic.
doombunny88
I was raised in the Church of Christ-not Baptist-and they took the no dancing thing very seriously. I was taught growing up that only married couples could dance and only in private (somehow ballet was fine, but folk dancing wasn’t). And when I went to a church of christ college, only boys and girls couldn’t dance together. Now I’m a heathen and brazenly do the Charleston in front of anyone.
doombunny88
Oh gods. I’d give almost anything for an edit button. I’m too lazy to address all of them, but for clarification boys and girls couldn’t dance together-boys could dance with boys and girls with girls. I just got home from work, and my brain is slightly borked.
Also, I accidentally capitalized church; in the coC they get weirdly adamant that you shouldn’t do so. They get weirdly adamant about a lot of things.
Mr D
Tehehehe you said cock
doombunny88
I know what I did. It’s pretty common for people to abbreviate it as coC. I don’t think most of them realize it. Bless their hearts. Now it’s a way for me to passive aggressively think “ha, they’re writing cock and don’t know it.” Because I’m a mature, well-adjusted adult
Screwball
So boy and girl Humans could dance with each other but not with the other gender? Was this 1 of those religions where you also couldn’t date the same gender? In other words, coud only dance with the same gender but dance only with the other gender?
…I don’t understand you Humans at times…
Screwball
Scraplets, I meant they could only dance with the same gender but only DATE the other gender?
Old mobiles, dumb machines…
doombunny88
@Screwball Yep. Boys could dance with boys, and girls with girls. But you have to date the opposite gender. It’s fine because same-sex attraction doesn’t exist. Totally a choice.
@Rabid Rabbit. Exactly. I know I grew up entirely fearing the opposite gender because boys=sex and sex=hellfire, which weirdly made girls less intimidating and contributed to me realizing I didn’t actually care what people had between their legs.
As a side note, I do not in any way mean to demean Joyce’s experiences (and I suppose by extension Willis’), but it always catches me off guard that she talks about going to different kinds of churches. Because according to the coC, anyone who doesn’t rigidly follow the commonly accepted tenets of the coC automatically goes to hell. Like, even if you say your’e coC, you could still be in danger of Hell if you use instrumental music or clap. That’s bad, and I feel bad, but it’s still the first though I have.
Rabid Rabbit
So boys could only dance with boys, and girls could only dance with girls…
Let me guess. This church frowned on homosexuality, but also frowned on dancing because it might lead to lasciviousness. And yet somehow never considered that disallowing cross-gender dancing might lead to homosexual lasciviousness…
Freemage
Once you’re that deep down the rabbit hole, you stop worrying about things like ‘logic’ and ‘common sense’.
thejeff
The rules were likely set up long before homosexuality was an openly talked of possibility.
Andy
I live in a town with a Church of Christ university and some other Christian colleges and they get into the weirdest theological arguments. The CoC university is currently in a turmoil over whether students who are employed by the university can date someone of the same gender.
doombunny88
I’m super curious to know which university that is, but understand if you don’t want to say so.
I went to Freed-Hardeman University, way out in west Tennessee. I graduated in 2010, and back then I’m sure they wouldn’t even hesitate to ban people employed by the university from having same-sex relationships. From what I can tell not much has changed, though I haven’t been back since I graduated cuz I find a lot of stuff about them pretty abhorrent now.
TheStranger
there’s a few Baptist denominations. The one I was raised in honestly didn’t give a shit about dancing.
Southern Baptists, as others’ve pointed out, are a different ball of wax entirely.
DinaJoyce
Also confusing the matter when attempting to figure out Baptists’ opinions on…anything: One of the few things Baptists all agree about is that all decisions about theology and practice are ultimately up to each individual congregation. Unlike more hierarchical denominations, just because the Southern Baptist Convention (or any other Baptist convention) releases a statement about something doesn’t mean that statement applies to every Southern Baptist Church, it just means that a bunch of Southern Baptist Churches sent representatives to get together and most of them agreed on this thing and so they wrote it up as a statement. Now, at some point, if there’s a church that doesn’t seem to agree with all the other Southern Baptists on much of anything, the rest of them can say “we’re not really sure why you’re still showing up to our meeting… and you might be nice folks (or heathens, but whatever)… but you don’t really have anything in common with us and we don’t really want you to keep showing up and saying strange things because clearly whatever you are, it’s not the same as what Southern Baptist is anymore” But usually even to make the church stop showing up they have to be banned at the regional level because SBC national (or any of the other national baptist conferences) doesn’t have much actual power, just a ton of influence. Also they don’t really have any power to make a church take “Baptist” out of their name.
All that to say, even if you limit it to Southern Baptists, some of them have never objected to dancing!
hof1991
#NotAllBaptists
Sol Karas
Joyce has a bit of junk-in-the-trunk going on there lol
cbwroses
I noticed that as well
Ragnarok
Yotomoe, we summon thee.
butts
why not just cut out the middleman and draw the smut yourself
cbwroses
Because I can’t draw?
Needfuldoer
Because Yotomoe’s adorable bubbly artwork is far superior my clumsy scribbles.
Screwball
It seems someone’s already made use of Joyce the Human’s rear end, eh Butts…
Wait, did that come out wrong?
Koms
She has a cute butt