I don’t think it’s a big revelation, but I do think it’s funny that she memorized the page numbers. Though, it’s Robin, so I also wouldn’t be surprised if that’s just a random page, thrown in there to emphasize her point.
I strongly suspect the bragging (“Look at what a competent mentor I am, for the kid we both care about!”) is part of a messed-up flirting attempt, too. Peacocking, was it? Or maybe something similar?
Librain
Peaclamming?
darkgloomie
“cock” in this case is opposite to “hen”, but peahens don’t do the showing off; they’re rather drab actually
Taellosse
Only by comparison to the males. Compared to other sorts of undomesticated fowl, even peahens are a bit on the extravagant side.
Meh. I just think the stakes are lower with Robin. Becky knows Robin won’t be disappointed in her and will enable her more questionable decisions. Not that banging Dina was bad, but Becky feels bad about it.
Also didn’t Becky also technically follow Leslie’s advice which was “If you care enough about each other you will eventually work this out.” Which they did. Robin’s catch all “You can make mistakes” advice could apply to anything including Becky’s choice for breakfast this morning.
She got Raisin Bran Crunch when Cinnamon Toast Crunch was right there.
Bruh
She’s technically not a kid anymore, so she can’t see why kids love it. Makes perfect sense.
Proxiehunter
I thought it was Apple Jacks that adults can’t get why kids love. Because they don’t taste like apples.
Taffy
Raisin Bran Crunch is fuckin’ delicious and has lots of lovely textures to enjoy.
Sirksome
I give you permission to make mistakes.
Taffy
Much appreciated. I might need a few boxes’ worth of mistakes though, I’m not one to learn a lesson quickly if tasty granola is involved.
Tan
smh at the lack of Honey Nut Cheerios in this thread.
Needfuldoer
Chocolate Peanut Butter Cheerios are even better.
They’re like Reeses Puffs but they don’t punch you in the face with sugar.
.. oh no am I old now 😮
Taffy
Honey Nut Cheerios are fine in small doses but after a while I just want the plain, no-frills variety that sorta smell like piss for some reason. Or maybe that last part is just me.
Ryek Hvek
It’s Grape-Nut Flakes for the win. (not so much because they’re awesomesauce, but because they have more malt sugar than most other cereals)
That IS one of Robin’s default outfits FROM Shortpacked! though.
We’re not exactly refuting my headcanon that this is Walkyverse!Robin, mid- Cadbury cereal cereal blackout. She consumed enough sugar to phase into another time-dilated plane of existence.
I think the whole alpha wolves came about beqcuse the wolves in question were studied in captivity which altered their behaviors and wild wolves are family oriented units. I do t know about Stockholm syndrome.
Uly
They weren’t just in captivity, they were wholly unrelated, the wolves.
jeffepp
That was the point of the study. But, people didn’t read it, just the cliffsnotes.
And, I’m going to apologize for accidentally hitting the new “report”, when trying to reply. This’ll be an issue for a while, as we get used to it.
UrsulaDavina
I have hit the report button by accident to its hard when your using a phone.
v.gay.person
So the wolves had stockholm syndrome. Gotcha
Clif
If you’re a wolf and you’re from Stockholm, what you going to do?
Geneseepaws
Thought Incredible-ly hard, the Stockholm wolf will develop a “Syndrome.”
dammit I accidentally hit the “Report” button when I was trying to reply, sorry
and now I don’t remember what the reply was. oops
Thag Simmons
I mean I accidentally hit the previous comment with one. We’ll get used to it.
Proxiehunter
Reply and flag instead of reply and report should help. But if there could be some distance between them that would help the problem of accidentally clicking one instead of the other on phones and tablets where the small screen and the size of peoples fingers messes up what gets clicked. Not sure if it’s physically possible to distance them enough using the software at hand though.
Proxiehunter
Please report these two comments I made above enough that they get removed temporarily. I think that makes them more likely for him to see than if they’re just reported the once by me.
Proxiehunter
There is also an issue with comments pushed far enough to the right that the reply button is no longer available not being reportable. While I think the likelihood of it being a huge issue is low that does seem potentially abusable.
thejeff
Ooh. That’s a good thought. Could be more of an issue than you’d expect, since it’s heated threads that are most likely to get pushed to the right.
UrsulaDavina
Yeah I did the same thing sorry apparently the whole alpha wolf thing came from i “Schenkel studied wolves at the Basel Zoo in Switzerland, where up to ten wolves were kept together in an area of 10 by 20 metres”
They weren’t family which affects their interactions.
Zach
That sounds like animal abuse just by denying them room to roam.
UrsulaDavina
It was 1947 so yeah animal abuse was pretty par for the course.
Azhrei Vep
So basically, what he learned wasn’t how wolf-packs worked. What he learned was what wolf prison rules are.
… which weren’t all that different from human prison rules, really.
Darasara
Basically, yeah. Normal wolves are a family unit, the study wolves were a prison gang in an extra nasty prison.
Shadowsnail
“Wolf Prison” would be a great name for a Swedish death metal band.
I went to Google it, and while I don’t have anything meaningful to say yet, I do find it amusing that when I type in “Stockholm”, Google recommends “stockholm syndrome” over “Stockholm, Sweden”.
The actual story is that the psychologist created the entirety of the idea the hostages were siding with the bank robbers based on the fact that the hostages did not respect their authority and were terrified of the police going in guns blazing.
Virtually every other kidnapping victim and hostage in history, including ones held prisoner for years like certain infamous young women, have stated, “No, I considered my captors to be scum and hated them.”
It’s sort of like how the FBI has never had one of its infiltrators get too deep. Generally, most undercover agents hate their associates and can’t wait to take them down.
He didn’t even fucking talk to them. It’s appalling malpractice.
jeffepp
He came up with the idea while the hostage situation was ongoing. The government at the time wanted to explain why the hostages that they had already written off weren’t willing to die to help them get reelected.
Sorry for the tangent, thank you for telling me about your Discord community, it must be really cool if you’re in it, I’d like to join if you don’t mind… ?
Rose by Any Other Name
Um, sorry, but no.
First off, it isn’t mine.
Secondly, it is the discord of a streamer I follow. While it is a wonderful community, I don’t think it’s really relevant to what you’re dealing with.
I just need to work on more on a big DOA Fan Game I’m making to take my mind off things, that will really help and cheer me up and others up too.
Would you like to get updates on it? It’s a kind of game I think you’d REALLY like, sexy times, and puzzles too!
My Discord is in my page if you click my name.
C.T. Phipps
Stockholm Syndrome is sort of like using torture for interrogation. There’s some weird belief violence will cause a subject to “break” and become subservient.
When torture, in fact, never inclines you to tell the truth. You may babble anything but it’s just as likely you’ll lie about it and a interrogator has no way of telling the difference.
I suppose some people want to believe force is more powerful than negotiation or peace-making.
annarchy
Can’t force love.
You can win love. Grow love. Sow love.
But the more you force it the greater the resentment and hate.
Force is weak.
Zach
I don’t buy that torture doesn’t work. The threat of torture has utility. And it’s pretty simple- you have 2 or more people and you hurt them until their stories line up. The reason not to use torture isn’t that it doesn’t work.
It’s a PR nightmare.
We have agreements to keep our own people from being tortured.
Knowledge that you use the practice undercuts efforts to establish trust in all other interrogations.
Other reasons I can’t think of at 1 AM.
Explicitly not ethics. Look at our track record. Self image, maybe. Not ethics.
Thag Simmons
Torture does not effectively produce reliable information, and there’s a lot of evidence to support that.
Fiction often paints Torture as reliable but not ethical, but in truth it is generally neither.
eh, whatever
I don’t buy that torture doesn’t work. The threat of torture has utility. And it’s pretty simple- you have 2 or more people and you hurt them until their stories line up.
That’s assuming you have 2 or more people, and it’s assuming they didn’t agree on a story beforehand as a rather obvious prevention measure.
The threat of torture works just the same as torture: at some point people will just say random stuff to make it stop, and then you have to go check it out yourself anyway.
213 thoughts on “Hottie”
Ana Chronistic
yeah I’m sure they just did it on accident anyway
…
*goes back and looks up what the advice was*
…
OH WAIT
Scoops!
Okay, if the advice was “make mistakes” then “she’s a teenager” is actually a very relevant point.
Doctor_Who
I think the big revelation here is that Robin apparently read Leslie’s gender studies textbook for some reason, even memorizing pages.
Though if her expression in panel 2 is any indication, it may simply be so she can smugly win arguments. That is some HellaSmug⟨™, right there.
Yumi
I don’t think it’s a big revelation, but I do think it’s funny that she memorized the page numbers. Though, it’s Robin, so I also wouldn’t be surprised if that’s just a random page, thrown in there to emphasize her point.
Yet_One_More_Idiot
I’m a little surprised that she didn’t claim her citation was from page 69. That would’ve been nice. 😀
Dara
I think the big revelation here is that Robin apparently reads at all!
Sombrero
Nah, she’s bluffing knowing that nobody reads the textbooks.
Ladymissfit
Robin reads it cause she still has the hots for leslie and it’s her way of flirting. She just doesn’t know it herself.
Gigafreak
I strongly suspect the bragging (“Look at what a competent mentor I am, for the kid we both care about!”) is part of a messed-up flirting attempt, too. Peacocking, was it? Or maybe something similar?
Librain
Peaclamming?
darkgloomie
“cock” in this case is opposite to “hen”, but peahens don’t do the showing off; they’re rather drab actually
Taellosse
Only by comparison to the males. Compared to other sorts of undomesticated fowl, even peahens are a bit on the extravagant side.
jpnr
I would not be surprised if the textbook mentioned nothing stockholm syndrome on that page
Sirksome
Meh. I just think the stakes are lower with Robin. Becky knows Robin won’t be disappointed in her and will enable her more questionable decisions. Not that banging Dina was bad, but Becky feels bad about it.
Sirksome
Also didn’t Becky also technically follow Leslie’s advice which was “If you care enough about each other you will eventually work this out.” Which they did. Robin’s catch all “You can make mistakes” advice could apply to anything including Becky’s choice for breakfast this morning.
Yumi
She got Raisin Bran Crunch when Cinnamon Toast Crunch was right there.
Bruh
She’s technically not a kid anymore, so she can’t see why kids love it. Makes perfect sense.
Proxiehunter
I thought it was Apple Jacks that adults can’t get why kids love. Because they don’t taste like apples.
Taffy
Raisin Bran Crunch is fuckin’ delicious and has lots of lovely textures to enjoy.
Sirksome
I give you permission to make mistakes.
Taffy
Much appreciated. I might need a few boxes’ worth of mistakes though, I’m not one to learn a lesson quickly if tasty granola is involved.
Tan
smh at the lack of Honey Nut Cheerios in this thread.
Needfuldoer
Chocolate Peanut Butter Cheerios are even better.
They’re like Reeses Puffs but they don’t punch you in the face with sugar.
.. oh no am I old now 😮
Taffy
Honey Nut Cheerios are fine in small doses but after a while I just want the plain, no-frills variety that sorta smell like piss for some reason. Or maybe that last part is just me.
Ryek Hvek
It’s Grape-Nut Flakes for the win. (not so much because they’re awesomesauce, but because they have more malt sugar than most other cereals)
not someone else
Honey Bunches of Oats, yo.
The Wellerman
Apple Jacks FTW ?
jeffepp
Becky’s mommies are fighting. The makeup sex will be…
Doctor_Who
To the Steven Universe soundtrack, like usual.
Jess
well, THAT was a spittake
RassilonTDavros
Round and round, let the city turn
Party in the hills, we can party in the ‘burbs
Needfuldoer
What comes around goes around
StClair
oh, well played. *golf clap*
UrsulaDavina
This isn’t short packed so who knows?
Needfuldoer
That IS one of Robin’s default outfits FROM Shortpacked! though.
We’re not exactly refuting my headcanon that this is Walkyverse!Robin, mid- Cadbury cereal cereal blackout. She consumed enough sugar to phase into another time-dilated plane of existence.
Bagge
I’m pretty sure that’s Robin’s plan (or you know deluded hope)
Caro
wait is this just a Robin-ism or is Stockholm syndrome really like alpha wolves
Thag Simmons
If my memory serves it’s much worse than alpha wolves, which was at least an honest mistake.
UrsulaDavina
I think the whole alpha wolves came about beqcuse the wolves in question were studied in captivity which altered their behaviors and wild wolves are family oriented units. I do t know about Stockholm syndrome.
Uly
They weren’t just in captivity, they were wholly unrelated, the wolves.
jeffepp
That was the point of the study. But, people didn’t read it, just the cliffsnotes.
And, I’m going to apologize for accidentally hitting the new “report”, when trying to reply. This’ll be an issue for a while, as we get used to it.
UrsulaDavina
I have hit the report button by accident to its hard when your using a phone.
v.gay.person
So the wolves had stockholm syndrome. Gotcha
Clif
If you’re a wolf and you’re from Stockholm, what you going to do?
Geneseepaws
Thought Incredible-ly hard, the Stockholm wolf will develop a “Syndrome.”
RassilonTDavros
dammit I accidentally hit the “Report” button when I was trying to reply, sorry
and now I don’t remember what the reply was. oops
Thag Simmons
I mean I accidentally hit the previous comment with one. We’ll get used to it.
Proxiehunter
Reply and flag instead of reply and report should help. But if there could be some distance between them that would help the problem of accidentally clicking one instead of the other on phones and tablets where the small screen and the size of peoples fingers messes up what gets clicked. Not sure if it’s physically possible to distance them enough using the software at hand though.
Proxiehunter
Please report these two comments I made above enough that they get removed temporarily. I think that makes them more likely for him to see than if they’re just reported the once by me.
Proxiehunter
There is also an issue with comments pushed far enough to the right that the reply button is no longer available not being reportable. While I think the likelihood of it being a huge issue is low that does seem potentially abusable.
thejeff
Ooh. That’s a good thought. Could be more of an issue than you’d expect, since it’s heated threads that are most likely to get pushed to the right.
UrsulaDavina
Yeah I did the same thing sorry apparently the whole alpha wolf thing came from i “Schenkel studied wolves at the Basel Zoo in Switzerland, where up to ten wolves were kept together in an area of 10 by 20 metres”
They weren’t family which affects their interactions.
Zach
That sounds like animal abuse just by denying them room to roam.
UrsulaDavina
It was 1947 so yeah animal abuse was pretty par for the course.
Azhrei Vep
So basically, what he learned wasn’t how wolf-packs worked. What he learned was what wolf prison rules are.
… which weren’t all that different from human prison rules, really.
Darasara
Basically, yeah. Normal wolves are a family unit, the study wolves were a prison gang in an extra nasty prison.
Shadowsnail
“Wolf Prison” would be a great name for a Swedish death metal band.
asmodai27
Would they be from Stockholm?
Yumi
Oh, yeah, it’s a mess. I feel like by the time I find my sources, someone else will have posted them, so I’ll just say that for now.
thakoru
I went to Google it, and while I don’t have anything meaningful to say yet, I do find it amusing that when I type in “Stockholm”, Google recommends “stockholm syndrome” over “Stockholm, Sweden”.
khn0
Well you know which one is more populated.
C.T. Phipps
The actual story is that the psychologist created the entirety of the idea the hostages were siding with the bank robbers based on the fact that the hostages did not respect their authority and were terrified of the police going in guns blazing.
Virtually every other kidnapping victim and hostage in history, including ones held prisoner for years like certain infamous young women, have stated, “No, I considered my captors to be scum and hated them.”
It’s sort of like how the FBI has never had one of its infiltrators get too deep. Generally, most undercover agents hate their associates and can’t wait to take them down.
Thag Simmons
He didn’t even fucking talk to them. It’s appalling malpractice.
jeffepp
He came up with the idea while the hostage situation was ongoing. The government at the time wanted to explain why the hostages that they had already written off weren’t willing to die to help them get reelected.
Rose by Any Other Name
That is… really interesting actually. Huh.
Now I wonder how much of this Hollywood made up for the sake of drama.
The Wellerman
Yeah, quite the tangled painful mess, isn’t it? ?
Sorry for the tangent, thank you for telling me about your Discord community, it must be really cool if you’re in it, I’d like to join if you don’t mind… ?
Rose by Any Other Name
Um, sorry, but no.
First off, it isn’t mine.
Secondly, it is the discord of a streamer I follow. While it is a wonderful community, I don’t think it’s really relevant to what you’re dealing with.
The Wellerman
Oh, OK Rose. Thank you for replying.
I just need to work on more on a big DOA Fan Game I’m making to take my mind off things, that will really help and cheer me up and others up too.
Would you like to get updates on it? It’s a kind of game I think you’d REALLY like, sexy times, and puzzles too!
My Discord is in my page if you click my name.
C.T. Phipps
Stockholm Syndrome is sort of like using torture for interrogation. There’s some weird belief violence will cause a subject to “break” and become subservient.
When torture, in fact, never inclines you to tell the truth. You may babble anything but it’s just as likely you’ll lie about it and a interrogator has no way of telling the difference.
I suppose some people want to believe force is more powerful than negotiation or peace-making.
annarchy
Can’t force love.
You can win love. Grow love. Sow love.
But the more you force it the greater the resentment and hate.
Force is weak.
Zach
I don’t buy that torture doesn’t work. The threat of torture has utility. And it’s pretty simple- you have 2 or more people and you hurt them until their stories line up. The reason not to use torture isn’t that it doesn’t work.
It’s a PR nightmare.
We have agreements to keep our own people from being tortured.
Knowledge that you use the practice undercuts efforts to establish trust in all other interrogations.
Other reasons I can’t think of at 1 AM.
Explicitly not ethics. Look at our track record. Self image, maybe. Not ethics.
Thag Simmons
Torture does not effectively produce reliable information, and there’s a lot of evidence to support that.
Fiction often paints Torture as reliable but not ethical, but in truth it is generally neither.
eh, whatever
That’s assuming you have 2 or more people, and it’s assuming they didn’t agree on a story beforehand as a rather obvious prevention measure.
The threat of torture works just the same as torture: at some point people will just say random stuff to make it stop, and then you have to go check it out yourself anyway.