I predict Joe will find out Incelerator read the Do List and leaked it. Joe is then horrified and this is what drives him to build his suit and become Iron Joe.
It is amazing how many of the “nice guys” and the like do self owns. Stuff like they don’t think that women find sex pleasurable because they have never liked it when with them and other such things. It is amazing in some ways how they are proud to admit it out loud.
Most incels actually do think of themselves as completely unfuckable losers, though they blame in on their bone structures or height or other things out of their control and not their personalities.
Their belief system is that they’re 3/10 men entitled to 3/10 women but the 9/10 and up men are hogging all the ladies.
Honestly, it’s probably for the best if their weakness is removed from the gene pool. They can either adapt and evolve or stay worthless and die alone like they deserve.
Sirksome
I think it’s just a symptom of toxic masculinity/patriarchy deeply entrenched in the male experience. It crushes the self worth of men and women and whatever you identify as. We should all be teaching each other to have more empathy instead of dressing up in flamboyant costumes to provoke the arbitrary gender wars.
SillyGoose
But we still get to dress up in flamboyant costumes if it’s just for fun and glitter, right?
thejeff
Partly, but I think a lot of it is just the internet.
A lot of young guys always went through a phase of fearing no woman would ever be interested in them, but in the past they’d interact with regular people in the real world and get over it. Now, they can seek out others online going through the same phase and set up a feedback loop convincing each other they’re right. Lock themselves into that mindset.
Skewbrow
^this. It is perhaps too much to call such bubbles the cause of many a thing gone wrong lately. But, lack of a shared reality brings out the worst. Ok, partisan press did rather similar damage well before the internet, but it’s gotten worse.
Shade
Yep, have tried helping incels before, they genuinely don’t want to hear the thing scaring off women is the incel shit for some reason.
Charles Phipps
The answer to being an incel is not, “Have you tried not being an asshole to women” and “prostitution is legal in some places. At least get the experience with a willing partner.”
The latter especially ticks them off because they don’t want to pay either.
Michael Steamweed
Definitely too much damn toxic patriarchy going on in our society. Far too much glorified in media, politics, sports…the list is long.
Jeremiah
I understand the hatred of these guys but please try to not spew off actual eugenistic talking points. As an autistic person I find it very distasteful.
eh, whatever
Taffy makes modest proposals so often that the snark tag has become invisible.
Jeremiah
What?
Yumi
A Modest Proposal is a well-known (I mean, depending whwre you went to high school) satirical essay about eating babies, so the term now means extreme, non-serious suggests. Such as the kind Taffy often makes in their posts.
Basically that Taffy’s comments should often be taken as snark
Though that doesn’t mean jokingly suggesting eugenics talking points for detested people isn’t still bringing up eugenics talking points.
Jeremiah
Yeah, that is what I mean, even as a joke, it makes me uncomfortable.
clif
I can’t help feeling that there’s a distinction between natural selection and eugenics being lost here. If Taffy suggested forcibly removing them from the gene pool, I missed it.
Mark
I missed it too. Normal natural evolution is allowed.
Taffy
99/100 times I say something wildly out of pocket, it’s meant to be taken as unseriously as possible. Maybe 30/100 times, that lack of seriousness actually scans, but we’re up from 20 so it’s progress.
Taffy
As a fellow autist, I agree. It was a distasteful thing to say. I still think incels are worthless and deserve nothing but scorn and vicious mockery, but you’re right, the “gene pool” thing gets dicey fast.
Jeremiah
Yeah thanks, hope I didn’t come across as too harsh, it just touch a nerve you know?
Taffy
I mean, you did say “please”.
Jeremiah
On the Internet there is always the possibility someone will take what you say as unreasonably hostile.
Clif
You take that back!!!
Kimi
I just want to give you all cookies now.
Charles Phipps
Yes, I’d say this.
“They’re not genetically assholes. They’re just assholes by choice.”
Clif
They may be genetically not the brightest bulb in the lot though. I hold that it’s possible to be an asshole without being stupid.
(Points to Mike.)
Kimi
There is also a way to be stupid due to choice and choosing not to learn. I have met people that are smart enough to understand a concept but are too lazy to put in the time to actually learn it. If they have no opinion one way or another on the subject it isn’t too bad (though highly concerning when it is an important topic), but some of them just say what they think sounds right with no background and run with that (aka insist that whatever they dreamed of is the truth and that anyone who says anything else is wrong). It is probably partially because they either don’t want to admit their ignorance or don’t want to admit that you know more about something than they do. A combination of ego and laziness perhaps?
idk, from what I’ve seen, a lot of them think they’re 3/10s who are still entitled to 8+/10 women (obviously, ranking people like that at all is gross, but their whole everything is gross)
eh, whatever
An important component of their belief system is that precisely this ranking is objective somehow.
Nobby Nobbs
I think that’s because women below maybe 6/10 are invisible to them while doing their dating “math.” Women they don’t find fuckable don’t register as women, so the floor for dating prospects starts at above average. Source: for some unknowable reason, I hang around advice columns where commenters who think like regular humans fruitlessly try to help these guys.
Yep! They believe women should fall into their lap exactly like when women had to get married and had no freedom. The think they abhor is not knowledge or skills, women always had that, the thing they hate are the laws that granted women freedom.
268 thoughts on “Unwilling”
Ana Chronistic
and smashing toes!
darkoneko
That doesn’t count if it’s her own !
GossamerWillow
Sorry I didn’t mean to hit report! I was trying to scroll on my phone.
Kimi
I have heard that it takes more than one, which is nice due to accidental phone clicks.
Doctor_Who
ToeSmasher would be a terrifying supervillain.
I stub my toe, my day is basically over.
Proxiehunter
Blaine smashed a toe once.
Michael Steamweed
Too soon!
No, wait…not soon enough.
clif
Society tends to frown on that type of toe smashing.
Ana Chronistic
Joyce ALSO smashed that toe (a little less permanently)
Killer Klown
Hey, the main villain in the original Mad Max was named ‘Toe Cutter’, so… close?
Moleculeman
Toe cutters – or “stand over men” – are a venerable part of the Australian crime world. They extort other criminals, you can see how.
Needfuldoer
Smashing!
(Read that in Tim Curry’s Nigel Thornberry voice.)
Ferret
And drawing dingdongs on whiteboards!
Decidedly Orthogonal
Is this dink scarface? Or one of his stooges? He looks similar.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Oh. I see they’ve been tagged. Thanks Willis!
NGPZ
awe yeah looks like Joy-Joe’s Bizzare Adventure gonna see some action!
let’s make this piece of shit SEE STARS! >:D
*plays “Jotaro’s Theme” from Stardust Crusaders on hacked muzak*
darkoneko
no no no. “Awaken” or nothing !
PedanticJerkass
“Propaganda” could maybe work as a theme for Incelerator, though. ¬_¬
Charles Phipps
I predict Joe will find out Incelerator read the Do List and leaked it. Joe is then horrified and this is what drives him to build his suit and become Iron Joe.
Lux
I could see the first half of that definitely being the case.
Charles Phipps
I am so glad Jocelyn got followed up on.
Willis is great at planting these seeds we want followed up on years later.
morhek
The old “We’Re NoT sO dIfFeReNt YoU aNd I.”
Effie
Joe opens a coffeeshop (in Cubetown) and now he is Cuppa Joe
Nono
She can also correctly identify the owner of breasts from just a picture!
Dave Van Domelen
SO much fake Paul in there.
Jason
that’s a pretty good Hank Hill impression, Joe
ValdVin
I tell you whut.
Michael Steamweed
That roller skate boy just ain’t right.
Sirksome
Skates might be too powerful in this universe.
RassilonTDavros
It’s like Shortpacked! never ended.
3oranges
Dumbing of Age book 27: Soggies may rule
Bryy
I understood that reference.
Yeet
she’s also good at maths
pope suburban
And she’s a certified Lesbian Love Sleuth, and can throw a hell of a punch, and can sneak into bars.
Dana
Pretty sure if you name yourself “Inecelerator” you’re not allowed to believe women can be good at math.
pope suburban
Oh, what I would give for someone to inform that toolbag that facts do not, sadly, care about his feelings. :’D
Taffy
Hell, the “can be good at math” part of that sentence is surplus to requirements.
HueSatLight
She’s also good at stabbing people in the face with glass, being kidnapped, and math.
Taffy
So he admits getting with him would be settling. That’s more of a self-own than anything else.
Kimi
It is amazing how many of the “nice guys” and the like do self owns. Stuff like they don’t think that women find sex pleasurable because they have never liked it when with them and other such things. It is amazing in some ways how they are proud to admit it out loud.
Charles Phipps
Self-identifying as an incel always seemed like one.
Michael Steamweed
“I have never attracted a mate! Yay me!”
ESM
Most incels actually do think of themselves as completely unfuckable losers, though they blame in on their bone structures or height or other things out of their control and not their personalities.
Their belief system is that they’re 3/10 men entitled to 3/10 women but the 9/10 and up men are hogging all the ladies.
Taffy
Honestly, it’s probably for the best if their weakness is removed from the gene pool. They can either adapt and evolve or stay worthless and die alone like they deserve.
Sirksome
I think it’s just a symptom of toxic masculinity/patriarchy deeply entrenched in the male experience. It crushes the self worth of men and women and whatever you identify as. We should all be teaching each other to have more empathy instead of dressing up in flamboyant costumes to provoke the arbitrary gender wars.
SillyGoose
But we still get to dress up in flamboyant costumes if it’s just for fun and glitter, right?
thejeff
Partly, but I think a lot of it is just the internet.
A lot of young guys always went through a phase of fearing no woman would ever be interested in them, but in the past they’d interact with regular people in the real world and get over it. Now, they can seek out others online going through the same phase and set up a feedback loop convincing each other they’re right. Lock themselves into that mindset.
Skewbrow
^this. It is perhaps too much to call such bubbles the cause of many a thing gone wrong lately. But, lack of a shared reality brings out the worst. Ok, partisan press did rather similar damage well before the internet, but it’s gotten worse.
Shade
Yep, have tried helping incels before, they genuinely don’t want to hear the thing scaring off women is the incel shit for some reason.
Charles Phipps
The answer to being an incel is not, “Have you tried not being an asshole to women” and “prostitution is legal in some places. At least get the experience with a willing partner.”
The latter especially ticks them off because they don’t want to pay either.
Michael Steamweed
Definitely too much damn toxic patriarchy going on in our society. Far too much glorified in media, politics, sports…the list is long.
Jeremiah
I understand the hatred of these guys but please try to not spew off actual eugenistic talking points. As an autistic person I find it very distasteful.
eh, whatever
Taffy makes modest proposals so often that the snark tag has become invisible.
Jeremiah
What?
Yumi
A Modest Proposal is a well-known (I mean, depending whwre you went to high school) satirical essay about eating babies, so the term now means extreme, non-serious suggests. Such as the kind Taffy often makes in their posts.
Basically that Taffy’s comments should often be taken as snark
Though that doesn’t mean jokingly suggesting eugenics talking points for detested people isn’t still bringing up eugenics talking points.
Jeremiah
Yeah, that is what I mean, even as a joke, it makes me uncomfortable.
clif
I can’t help feeling that there’s a distinction between natural selection and eugenics being lost here. If Taffy suggested forcibly removing them from the gene pool, I missed it.
Mark
I missed it too. Normal natural evolution is allowed.
Taffy
99/100 times I say something wildly out of pocket, it’s meant to be taken as unseriously as possible. Maybe 30/100 times, that lack of seriousness actually scans, but we’re up from 20 so it’s progress.
Taffy
As a fellow autist, I agree. It was a distasteful thing to say. I still think incels are worthless and deserve nothing but scorn and vicious mockery, but you’re right, the “gene pool” thing gets dicey fast.
Jeremiah
Yeah thanks, hope I didn’t come across as too harsh, it just touch a nerve you know?
Taffy
I mean, you did say “please”.
Jeremiah
On the Internet there is always the possibility someone will take what you say as unreasonably hostile.
Clif
You take that back!!!
Kimi
I just want to give you all cookies now.
Charles Phipps
Yes, I’d say this.
“They’re not genetically assholes. They’re just assholes by choice.”
Clif
They may be genetically not the brightest bulb in the lot though. I hold that it’s possible to be an asshole without being stupid.
(Points to Mike.)
Kimi
There is also a way to be stupid due to choice and choosing not to learn. I have met people that are smart enough to understand a concept but are too lazy to put in the time to actually learn it. If they have no opinion one way or another on the subject it isn’t too bad (though highly concerning when it is an important topic), but some of them just say what they think sounds right with no background and run with that (aka insist that whatever they dreamed of is the truth and that anyone who says anything else is wrong). It is probably partially because they either don’t want to admit their ignorance or don’t want to admit that you know more about something than they do. A combination of ego and laziness perhaps?
ian livs
idk, from what I’ve seen, a lot of them think they’re 3/10s who are still entitled to 8+/10 women (obviously, ranking people like that at all is gross, but their whole everything is gross)
eh, whatever
An important component of their belief system is that precisely this ranking is objective somehow.
Nobby Nobbs
I think that’s because women below maybe 6/10 are invisible to them while doing their dating “math.” Women they don’t find fuckable don’t register as women, so the floor for dating prospects starts at above average. Source: for some unknowable reason, I hang around advice columns where commenters who think like regular humans fruitlessly try to help these guys.
Bryy
There’s *a lot* of shit these guys say that is a self-own.
Coco
Yep! They believe women should fall into their lap exactly like when women had to get married and had no freedom. The think they abhor is not knowledge or skills, women always had that, the thing they hate are the laws that granted women freedom.