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Logic

Posted on August 12, 2023 by David M Willis

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Tags: jennifer, lucy, walky

Discussion (182) - “Logic”

  1. Ana Chronistic

    08/12/2023, 12:01 am
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    is sore loserdom a rational viewpoint which could be defeated through logic

    1. Decidedly Orthogonal

      08/12/2023, 10:19 am
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      I’m surprised Ms Billingsworth could open her mouth to answer. Her lack of self-awareness knows no bounds.

      1. Leorale

        08/12/2023, 7:42 pm
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        I read that last panel as Jennifer hearing just how dumb her argument is once she says it aloud. But it can definitely be interpreted either way, and she’s typically among the least self-aware characters in the comic, so.

  2. shadowcell

    08/12/2023, 12:03 am
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    it’s like at this age they’re just dumb or something? weird

    1. Radiance

      08/12/2023, 12:06 am
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      That’d make a good name for a book or a band or something

    2. AbacusWizard

      08/12/2023, 12:10 am
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      Dumbing of Age, Book 13: At This Age They’re Just Dumb

      1. Risky

        08/12/2023, 2:04 am
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        : Age of not so not-an-idiot.

      2. a/snow/mous/e

        08/12/2023, 4:50 pm
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        Dumbing of Age, Book 13: Idiocy Correlated with Years of Life Attained Thus Far

        1. a/snow/mous/e

          08/12/2023, 4:50 pm

          Oops That’s Just the Title of the Series

  3. newlland(Henryvolt)

    08/12/2023, 12:03 am
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    Jennifer, you are just as much of a idiot here.

    Asher is practically the amalgamation of the best traits of two of the best people you know and you’re fucking this up.

    1. C.T. Phipps

      08/12/2023, 12:09 am
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      She doesn’t want a healthy supportive boyfriend!

      She wants Cool mob guy!

    2. Frelance

      08/12/2023, 12:12 am
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      hol’up, are “we” on Team Asher now? thaaaat’s a weird one

      1. RassilonTDavros

        08/12/2023, 12:17 am
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        I think the commentariat has more-or-less joined Team Asher at this point, yes.

      2. True Survivor

        08/12/2023, 12:17 am
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        Ehhh, what’s some light kidnapping and murder between friends?

        1. Electric

          08/12/2023, 12:19 am

          It’s ok if it’s Blaine

        2. clif

          08/12/2023, 10:34 pm

          While you make a good point, not all of us are on team Asher.

      3. Thag Simmons

        08/12/2023, 12:31 am
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        He’s probably harmless. probably

      4. ktbear

        08/12/2023, 1:34 am
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        @Frelance no, we are not in fact “on Team Ascher now.” A subsector of “we” are on Team Ascher in the same way that a subsector of Republicans are on Team Trump.

        1. Proxiehunter

          08/12/2023, 4:01 am

          So, everyone then?

        2. Decidedly Orthogonal

          08/12/2023, 10:22 am

          Bravo! The lust for power clearly trumps their morals. See also: politician

      5. Bryy

        08/12/2023, 4:08 am
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        I’m starting to think that Asher is the fully non-toxic guy that has this one thing that completely makes him the most toxic person ever.

        1. Steamweed

          08/12/2023, 8:14 am

          As non-toxic as he can be, right now, considering he has the mob family.

        2. Nalim Skarro

          08/12/2023, 10:01 am

          But that’s his family not him. The dude is trying to get away from them and the only reason he had any interaction with them recently was because of Blaine dragging him into the situation against his will. And if Asher hadn’t gone the route he had Blaine would still be alive and causing even more trouble and trauma for the rest of the cast.

      6. zee

        08/12/2023, 12:41 pm
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        I’ve always been on team (adult) Asher. Dudes cool and like, probably the furthest along in his personal journey of the cast

      7. a/snow/mous/e

        08/12/2023, 4:52 pm
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        I think in general people are putting things aside until there’s more context for what shit Asher has done. It’s just a lot of work bearing a grudge for someone who’s being portrayed mostly sympathetically.

    3. Laura

      08/12/2023, 12:20 am
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      Which two?

      1. Thag Simmons

        08/12/2023, 12:31 am
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        Sal and Walky, I think

        1. Bash

          08/12/2023, 3:53 am

          That’s the problem. Jennifer doesn’t want a boyfriend who acts like Walky. She wants someone more mature so that she can feel superior to Walky.

        2. Bryy

          08/12/2023, 4:09 am

          Jennifer wants someone that doesn’t exist.

        3. TulipKitten

          08/12/2023, 4:30 pm

          Honestly, anyone mature enough for her tastes wouldn’t be dating Jennifer. Because her antics are straight out of high school.

        4. Laura

          08/12/2023, 7:27 am

          Thanks! Makes sense.

  4. Dara

    08/12/2023, 12:04 am
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    oh yeah, oops all idiots, highly accurate xD

  5. bejouled

    08/12/2023, 12:04 am
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    It’s bothering me that Walky has a sweatshirt on, Lucy is wearing a turtleneck, and Jennifer has a sleeveless shirt. WHAT TEMPERATURE IS IT?

    1. Doctor_Who

      08/12/2023, 12:05 am
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      Maybe Jennifer is just staying indoors today?

    2. PirateTawnee

      08/12/2023, 12:06 am
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      Jennifer is hot tho.

    3. DailyBrad

      08/12/2023, 12:09 am
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      I kind of assume Jennifer just runs warm. Like, this is a girl who used to (on more than one occasion) go through the dorm halls in a tanktop and panties. She probably just doesn’t get cold that easily. Walky and Lucy are scrawnier than her, too, so maybe that factors into it some, though it’s probably moreso that Walky is getting in from outside.

      1. RassilonTDavros

        08/12/2023, 12:23 am
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        Jennifer also has considerably more body fat than either of them, and I know from experience that the heavier you are, the harder it is to get cooled off.

        1. StClair

          08/12/2023, 2:49 am

          The fat serves as insulation, and there’s also a ratio between surface area and volume to consider.

        2. Opus the Poet

          08/12/2023, 9:29 pm

          That’s why there’s more mammillian megafauna in the Arctic and Antarctic than in the tropics, and why the same species of deer are like huge in the sub-arctic but dwarf in subtropical regions. Seriously, whitetails are smaller than a German shepard dog in FL but almost as big as elk in Alaska.

    4. Yotomoe

      08/12/2023, 12:12 am
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      Walky and Lucy just came from outside probably and Jen’s been in her presumably heated room all day.

    5. True Survivor

      08/12/2023, 12:13 am
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      It was snowing the strip where Ethan was running to Asher’s dorm (which occurs on the same night), so it is likely below freezing. I suppose Lucy and Jennifer just have on lighter clothes because they are either in for the evening (this strip appears to take place in their dorm room) or they plan on layering with heaver clothes when going outside.

      1. Laura

        08/12/2023, 12:25 am
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        Which is what made it even stranger that she demanded Asher strip down to his T-shirt outside of class…

    6. Angel

      08/12/2023, 12:26 am
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      Some ppl are warmer/colder than others but i imagine jen would wear whatever looks best on her and cover up if she needs to

      1. Miri

        08/13/2023, 6:31 am
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        When I was around their age, the “popular” girls basically acted impervious to cold. I’m not sure if this was “invisible alcohol jacket” or “wrapping up would hide their smexy outfit” (or a bit of both) – but I’d be outside wearing like 2 t-shirts, a sweater, 3 hoodies and a windproof lumberjack jacket coz I feel the cold, and they’d be walking around in barely-there clubwear…

    7. Raen

      08/12/2023, 1:05 am
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      There are those annoying people in temperate climates who like to run around in t-shirts or the like – or in a particular case a low-cut blue dress – at, e.g., 25° F. (…I used to be one of those people, but I got old. Never did get around to buying that dress.)

      1. Angel

        08/12/2023, 7:42 pm
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        having a jacket around your waist to put on later can be helpful but even with socks i can’t imagine being able to wear sandals all day even in non winter weather (tho some one i knew claimed he wore them even in heavy rain outside lol)

        it’s not too late, buy whatever you like, prolly pair it with some other stuff but age shouldn’t stop you from fabulous clothes XD

  6. Animedingo

    08/12/2023, 12:05 am
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    I can think of a different 5 letter word for Billie

    It also starts with a B

    1. Stephen Bierce

      08/12/2023, 12:07 am
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      –B-Girl’s your name/And if you don’t know a ‘B-Girl’/Let us explain/
      ‘B’ stand for…

    2. C.T. Phipps

      08/12/2023, 12:09 am
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      Bongo?

      1. a/snow/mous/e

        08/12/2023, 4:57 pm
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        Bingo.

        1. Animedingo

          08/12/2023, 7:54 pm

          Was her name-o

    3. Amós Batista

      08/12/2023, 12:13 am
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      aBlasé

    4. Laura

      08/12/2023, 12:22 am
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      Belle!

      1. Laura

        08/12/2023, 12:22 am
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        Brain!

        1. Laura

          08/12/2023, 12:24 am

          soBer!

        2. Proxiehunter

          08/12/2023, 1:27 am

          Bober?

        3. Laura

          08/12/2023, 7:23 am

          Buxom!

          No longer Boozy!

        4. a/snow/mous/e

          08/12/2023, 4:58 pm

          Bitt’r

    5. a/snow/mous/e

      08/12/2023, 4:59 pm
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      Billie is a six-letter word, though.

      1. a/snow/mous/e

        08/12/2023, 4:59 pm
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        (Also she’s currently going by Jennifer.)

  7. Animedingo

    08/12/2023, 12:05 am
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    I swear shes gonna be mad Asher DIDNT cheat on her

    1. C.T. Phipps

      08/12/2023, 12:09 am
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      Absolutely she is.

      She will totally objectify the two men too.

      1. DailyBrad

        08/12/2023, 12:49 am
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        While we’re assuming the worst in her, she’ll probably also say my favorite flavor of skittles is the wrong choice.

        I kid, but man, she has really very little good will among people lately, and I wonder sometimes if some of it is us all reading her really uncharitably in many situations.

        1. C.T. Phipps

          08/12/2023, 5:33 am

          I mean when you’re violent to your partner and verbally as well as physically abusive, you don’t tend to win many friends or understanding. Jennifer thinks it’s okay to attack Ruth and horribly attack Asher over trivial matters.

          People have given her far more slack but she’s basically Blaine in behavior.

      2. poofdepoof

        08/12/2023, 2:10 am
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        Objectifying them is more of an Amber move

  8. Karla Jean

    08/12/2023, 12:07 am
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    Valid.

  9. True Survivor

    08/12/2023, 12:07 am
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    Its like the Graeae, but instead of an eye and the tooth its an Asher and the one brain cell.

    1. Laura

      08/12/2023, 12:25 am
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      Hmm?

      1. True Survivor

        08/12/2023, 12:52 am
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        The Graeae are beings from Greek myth – three sisters who had to share and fight over the use of the single eye and tooth they had between them.

        1. Laura

          08/12/2023, 7:27 am

          Wow!

        2. Masumi

          08/12/2023, 9:12 am

          The eye I’d fight for, but what are you gonna do with a single tooth? That just sounds uncomfortable.

        3. Decidedly Orthogonal

          08/12/2023, 10:25 am

          Clearly you can’t handle the tooth!

        4. Schpoonman

          08/12/2023, 4:16 pm

          “I want the juice!”

  10. Proto_Eevee

    08/12/2023, 12:07 am
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    She’ll find a better reason not to talk to him soon enough I’m sure

  11. AeromechanicalAce

    08/12/2023, 12:09 am
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    Okay, i know Mary is by far the worst of the non-adult characters, but Jennifer is REALLY pushing hard for that silver medal.

    1. Bryy

      08/12/2023, 4:10 am
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      Mary still actively tries to push people to suicide.

      1. Shaith86

        08/12/2023, 5:13 am
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        Which is why she’s got the gold medal on lock

  12. morhek

    08/12/2023, 12:11 am
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    I swear, Asher will be the one to end this relationship and Billie is gonna be SO MAD because he’s finally giving her the anger she wanted and he’s just done. And Ethan will be there for him. Dear, sweet, sexy, hurt Ethan. Ethan who can make him the good man Billie couldn’t.

    Until he finds out Asher is the reason Mike’s dead. Which be a notable stumbling block in their relationship.

    1. Adam Black

      08/12/2023, 12:17 am
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      Is He ( asher) though?

      ive wondered.
      He’s a partner in the kidnapping which is probably worse.

      1. Anon A Mouse

        08/12/2023, 12:24 am
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        We really don’t have THAT much to go on. We know he has been an accessory to at least a few crimes, up to and including murder. However, we don’t know the extent of any crimes he himself has done and he, like many other characters, is just reaching the age at which his decisions are considered his own. From what we have seen, to my knowledge, he appears to be trying to leave his criminal ties behind and start fresh but these things rarely work out in fiction so that has yet to be seen.

      2. C.T. Phipps

        08/12/2023, 12:36 am
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        The question is whether the cop killed Blaine or killed Blaine AND Mike.

        Because he was getting better according to Amber.

        1. BBCC

          08/12/2023, 12:44 am

          Amber said he had more time. That sounds like they expected him to die but not so soon.

        2. DailyBrad

          08/12/2023, 12:52 am

          Yeah, it’s possible that the cop killed Ethan, just as Blaine blatantly said that he would, but it also feels like it’d have been entirely unnecessary. Even if Mike didn’t die, they had already tied up the loose end of Blaine, so Mike wouldn’t have really brought any additional heat onto the crime family. Murdering Mike would have been an additional risk with little reward.

        3. Nono

          08/12/2023, 12:55 am

          Can’t believe Ethan was dead all along.

        4. Sirksome

          08/12/2023, 1:09 am

          That explains the mood change. Being dead would make anyone depressed and nihilistic.

        5. C.T. Phipps

          08/12/2023, 5:34 am

          I suggested that a lot of Ethan’s behavior makes sense if he’s been turned into a vampire.

          A SEXY vampire.

        6. Opus the Poet

          08/12/2023, 10:09 pm

          I know being dead did nothing good for my mood, but YMMV. You might like being dead, there was a movie that I think was named Dead And Loving It or something on those lines.

        7. DailyBrad

          08/12/2023, 9:26 pm

          Ah, whoops, haha.

        8. Alongcameaspider

          08/12/2023, 5:09 pm

          I’m pretty sure it was implied or stated somewhere that Ethan was in the room with Mike when Mike passed

          Unless the cop decided to use poison I think it’s safe to say Mike just took an unexpected turn for the worst

    2. Mark

      08/12/2023, 7:23 am
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      Blaine is the reason Mike is dead. After Mike volunteered to join the conflict.

      I don’t see Asher’s involvement here. He pulled a fire alarm. He probably wasn’t fully briefed as to why.

      1. zee

        08/12/2023, 12:47 pm
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        Yeah Mike was already in the hospital before ashes part came up

  13. Yotomoe

    08/12/2023, 12:11 am
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    Racism is so cringe.

    Like it’s very rare that someone who’s racist is racist in a way that doesn’t uplift themselves and put down others. It’s saying you’re “better” because you’re born. So Lazy. Instead of doing something with your life you just wanna believe you’re better than someone by birthright. That way you don’t actually have to be good at ANYTHING or successful.

    Racism is the participation trophy of bigotry.

    1. C.T. Phipps

      08/12/2023, 12:36 am
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      Yeah, I think racism is kind of inherently bad.

    2. Mano308gts

      08/12/2023, 12:37 am
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      You literally just described the elite (wealthy, especially by inheritance… of which, of course, the majority of the elite are composed).

      Like, take the word Racism, replace it with the word “classism,” and you have the opinion(s) of people who think ‘they’re better than all the proles’ just because they were born into a family that happens to have been rich since 147 years ago…

      1. DailyBrad

        08/12/2023, 12:58 am
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        There is definitely overlap, though it does tend to manifest a little differently in that racism usually operates on the idea of inherent differences, whereas classism usually has the veneer of “We have this because of hard work. If the complainers worked harder, then they’d have everything that they needed, too.”

        Some rich people know and acknowledge the game is rigged against the poor, but most either rationalize it as fair or live in willful ignorance of their privilege.

        Racists, meanwhile, tend to hang onto the idea of differences that are built in, cannot be overcome, and that other races want to destroy them through violence and intermingling, bringing them down with them. They only rarely suggest other races can lift themselves up to their level, and they see the hierarchy as inherently just, not something that anyone can really climb in, only sink down further through blood dilution.

        This is all just my observations, though, and far from complete.

        1. Decidedly Orthogonal

          08/12/2023, 10:28 am

          That’s doing a *lot* of arguing in defense of dreadfully few people. And as they get richer, ever fewer of them acknowledge their luck.

        2. Sarah Lea

          08/12/2023, 4:03 pm

          For what it’s worth, the racist beliefs I was “taught” growing up were a strange mix of this.

          Whites were superior because “they worked harder,” because they are whites. It was genetically or culturally or even linguistically baked in that whites *did more superior things.*

          Basically, getting to have their cake (“we’re better”) and eat it too (“because we do better”), Ali while quietly kicking the circular reasoning quietly under the rug.

          This form of “whites are better, because they *earn* it” (which feels vaguely familiar to the “prosperity gospel,” “Godliness results in riches” concept) made it a little trickier for me to identify as unjustifiable racism growing up, because I was basically taught that some racism *could/should* be justified (when it, for the purposes of this context, never is).

        3. Leorale

          08/12/2023, 8:06 pm

          Bonus: if white people are inherently better, they should naturally always be on top. So, why is it that sometimes the white people are poor, or powerless, or otherwise not-on-top? Because nefarious powerful outsiders disrupt the system from being a proper meritocracy — it’s the fault of the Jews, successfully conspiring to keep the white people down.

          Yep, everyone who hates Black and Brown people also hates the Jews (typically in the very next sentence). It’s all part of the same incredibly messed up racist worldview, and it’s all the worst.

      2. C.T. Phipps

        08/12/2023, 5:36 am
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        Humans and tribalism is a pretty common thing. In fact, one argues that racism exists to give poor whites an investiture in the system that otherwise doesn’t benefit them. After all, a huge chunk of otherwise medicore people may not be rich but they can say they’re better than the brown, trans, gay, insert other people.

        Which is also why white women are a major part of the racist system alongside poor males.

        1. Masumi

          08/12/2023, 9:20 am

          In conclusion: We need to make up a non – existent group of people who are worse than everyone else, problem solved. Maybe in form of an army of ai bots.

        2. C.T. Phipps

          08/12/2023, 11:58 pm

          No, no, we can’t be mean to mutants and create Sentinels to hunt them!

      3. Mark

        08/12/2023, 7:31 am
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        Or, for that matter, people who think “they’re better than all the bourgeois” just because they were born into a family that hasn’t been rich since forever.

        Anybody who’s systemically unhappy needs to find or, if necessary, imagine an out-group to whom he can feel superior.

    3. NGPZ

      08/12/2023, 12:54 am
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      I think most of the time it’s the other way around. People who adopt racist rhetoric like this do so because it makes them feel superior, mostly by “winning” arguments with liberals (really it’s just us leaving when we feel continuing would be counterproductive or unsafe). The more “wins” they get repeating the rhetoric, the smarter they feel, the more they are convinced of it’s legitimacy.

    4. Sirksome

      08/12/2023, 12:55 am
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      I don’t know. Uncle Ruckus was plenty racist and he was the funniest character in The Boondocks. Remember him teaching us the benefits of slavery and how it took us out the jungle and it put structure in our lives, or how we shouldn’t trust those new “ninjas” over there? Those were the days! Are you saying that a satirical cartoon character from a edgy adult animated cartoon from the 2000’s worldview is cringe?!…Cause yeah that checks out.

      1. Yotomoe

        08/12/2023, 1:08 am
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        Listen, the world isn’t ready for Reverend Uncle Ruckus’ teachings.

        God I love the Boondocks.

        1. Opus the Poet

          08/12/2023, 10:39 pm

          Uncle Ruckus and DeSantis differ only in skin tone, that statement about slavery teaching valuable job skills is part of the official FL high school curriculum.

        2. Adam Black

          08/13/2023, 10:11 am

          Personally valuable as if they werent enslaved

  14. Amós Batista

    08/12/2023, 12:12 am
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    Glad to see Lucy happy. And now, like a winner.

  15. Suet

    08/12/2023, 12:13 am
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    Idiots of Age, where it’s all idiots all the way down.

    For all this, someone nab Walky’s stash of rabbit’s feet outta where the sun don’t shine

    1. MM

      08/12/2023, 12:19 am
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      I thought Idiots of Age was the spinoff starring (most of) the parents.

      1. True Survivor

        08/12/2023, 12:19 am
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        I’d read it.

  16. Angel

    08/12/2023, 12:26 am
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    Even idiots get victories lol

  17. Adam Black

    08/12/2023, 12:31 am
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    (drawing hands are hard. Drawing hands are hards, even AI struggles to on them. Drawing hands are hard. )

    but this page ( esp Lucys ) is giving me the creeps/ uncanny valley.

    and walky suddenly has grew pianist fingers.

    1. TulipKitten

      08/12/2023, 3:00 am
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      Lucy must be very happy about this development.

      1. Adam Black

        08/13/2023, 10:09 am
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        walkys, or her own suddenly arthritic monster mitts?

  18. NGPZ

    08/12/2023, 12:32 am
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    Not necessarily an idiot Jennifer, but yields a common misconception. It’s not that necessarily that there’s no difference between a bigot who knows they’re a bigot but won’t tell you and a bigot who doesn’t know they’re a bigot — it’s that there’s no interpersonal line between them.

    Remember, Carol does not exist in a vacuum, bigots more often than not operate only on self-interest, viewpoints to them are not that which they are obliged to defend but tools to be picked up and dropped depending on their utility.

  19. Derek

    08/12/2023, 12:39 am
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    the fact that Walky’s parents accepted that Amber as a new girlfriend without ever questioning what happened to Lucy proves that these characters have become rather flat altogether, and they have no further thoughts than whatever is necessary to further the plot at a given moment. They’re effectively sitcom characters now

    Sigh
    I miss when this webcomic was more grounded in realism and the characters had depth. does anyone else miss that?

    1. Taffy

      08/12/2023, 1:28 am
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      People can still see you when you close your eyes.

      1. Bryy

        08/12/2023, 4:13 am
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        Stop it, they’re already dead.

      2. Derek

        08/13/2023, 1:50 am
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        what on earth does that mean?

    2. Nono

      08/12/2023, 2:18 am
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      You mean when Amber was defying physics as a vigilante?

      1. Taffy

        08/12/2023, 1:24 pm
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        Or when Ruth was literally throwing people, drawing dicks in her hand and slapping people so it’d leave a dickmark?

    3. Bash

      08/12/2023, 3:50 am
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      It seems like Charles was not fooled and understood that this was a plot. Linda didn’t like Lucy to begin with and wasn’t going to ask after her.

      1. J. Spider

        08/12/2023, 12:02 pm
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        Despite her rage Linda isn’t likely to be wired to think critically of Walky or herself. She’ll display an intense but shallow rage until the world bends back to what she thinks it should be.

        I’ve met the personality type before and it’s actually pretty shocking how their brains impact crumple zones will absorb things they don’t want to believe.

    4. C.T. Phipps

      08/12/2023, 5:38 am
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      I buy it actually because it’s so bizarre a plan that you would need to have a grounding to question it.

      ALSO because I introduced my parents to my girlfriend during one trip and later that night brought my other girlfriend (they were aware of each other) and weirdly no one brought it up despite my having forgotten to mention it.

    5. J. Spider

      08/12/2023, 11:56 am
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      I dunno, maye it’s because I’ve read Willis’ comics since I was in highschool so I’m very used to the reality of the strips ramping up and down. Sure Dumbing of Age has never been Shortpacked but there’s still a decent amount of variety that comes from his style.

      I remember when It’s Walky started taking more goofy elements seriously and I think that threw me more than any of this. But maybe I’m capable of being too loyal.

    6. zee

      08/12/2023, 12:52 pm
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      God nostalgia goggles are so poisonous

    7. smolgrlboi

      08/14/2023, 3:37 pm
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      Charles didn’t buy it.

  20. pope suburban

    08/12/2023, 12:42 am
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    I mean his parents, plural, did not see to hate Amber. Linda did, sure, but Charles seemed to be in support of the fake relationship. So I’m no sure Walky is being accurate here, and I wonder how that will play out over the next few hours and days.

    1. Mano308gts

      08/12/2023, 12:46 am
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      yea, Walky’s straight-up lying about the results… his MOM disliked her, but his dad? definitely thought she was a catch. Didn’t even realize at first that he was not telling Lucy the reality of the situation.

      1. ktbear

        08/12/2023, 1:43 am
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        Could be interesting to see how this plays out if that fact ever comes to light.

      2. Archieve

        08/12/2023, 4:39 am
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        Not to mention his mom only started to like Lucy because she now values Sals opinion better because of her racism fueled preference for her kids having white partners.Think Walkys insecure about their relationship and wants a ‘win’ to not focus on any doubts he has.

      3. C.T. Phipps

        08/12/2023, 5:40 am
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        Charles may actually ALSO be a driving force in the racism.

        “Listen son, I’m going to tell it like it is: your life will be easier in some ways if you’re married to a white woman. Just don’t go to places it will get you killed.

        “Like the Deep South.”

        “Like ten miles away.”

        (paraphrased actual conversation I heard from friend with his dad about his marriage)

      4. zee

        08/12/2023, 1:01 pm
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        Honestly I think Walky only values his mom’s opinion. I mean she’s the dominant parent and the one who instills All the anxiety in him, while his dad just sorta enables her and occasionally hands out his own thoughts when she’s not looking. Charles doesn’t go against Linda, ever, so yeah. As far as walkys concerned Linda’s opinion is his parents’ opinion

  21. BBCC

    08/12/2023, 12:45 am
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    I like how Jennifer hears panel two and just goes ‘What did you do’. She knows him well.

    And I’m glad they’re handling their issues in a mature and sensible way. /s

  22. Raen

    08/12/2023, 12:47 am
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    Wait, he thinks this worked? Only it definitely seems like Charles at least preferred Amber.

    1. HueSatLight

      08/12/2023, 1:42 am
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      I think it’s more that Charles saw that Walky had chemistry with Amber and not Lucy, and is giving him relatively good advice.

      1. Bittersweet

        08/12/2023, 2:45 am
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        I’m on team “Walky and Lucy have less chemistry than flour and glue” but I don’t think we should give Charles credit for joining that team, he’s seen like two thirds of a single interaction between the two lol.

      2. zee

        08/12/2023, 1:03 pm
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        I mean in Lucy’s defense he spent a whole dinner with walky and Amber and only saw walky with Lucy for like 2 minutes, most of which she spent interacting with him and linda

  23. Sirksome

    08/12/2023, 12:48 am
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    I know they’ve both bonded over the fake girlfriend plan failing it’s way into success but I still have no faith in Walky x Lucy. Like less faith in them than Jennifer x Asher and I just saw Asher make out with Ethan like 3 strips ago. At this point I hope they get married and have babies just to spite how little I believe in them.

    1. Sirksome

      08/12/2023, 12:50 am
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      It was actually 5 strips ago but who’s counting?…..I am, cause I just corrected that it was 5 strips ago.

    2. Wereg

      08/12/2023, 6:53 am
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      Iunno if I’d call that much of a make out. Ethan came on strong and kissed Asher, but Asher seemed to stop it once his brain caught up.

    3. Mark

      08/12/2023, 7:51 am
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      How much is there to have faith in at this point? Have they had three real dates yet? They’re still in the early stages of discovering each other, no matter what Lucy thinks.

      1. Opus the Poet

        08/12/2023, 10:49 pm
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        Three counting the meal with Walky’s parents I think unless the meal was 4. One more date than Lucy thinks is required for them to have sex., however many that was.

  24. Nono

    08/12/2023, 12:52 am
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    Maybe there was something in the water in their neighbourhood, and Sal escaped because she was sent to juvie.

  25. Proxiehunter

    08/12/2023, 1:26 am
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    Not making a strong argument on the not an idiot front Jennifer.

  26. HueSatLight

    08/12/2023, 1:38 am
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    She’s right, and she’s right to say it.

  27. ktbear

    08/12/2023, 1:41 am
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    Shame that Walky is lying here, his parents did not in fact think Lucy was the better choice, just his mother thought that. His father actually thought Amber was the better choice for Walky, an opinion I agree with.

    1. Yotomoe

      08/12/2023, 1:44 am
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      I concur.

    2. Bash

      08/12/2023, 3:47 am
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      I know this was phrased as being about “parents”, but Linda was always the main concern. Charles thought Amber was the better choice, but he also said he would accept Walky’s decision.

      1. zee

        08/12/2023, 1:05 pm
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        Yeah Charles’ opinion has never mattered in this equation. When it comes down to it hes a “yes dear” type. Walky isn’t lying, he genuinely only cares about what Linda thinks and sees her as speaking unilaterally for the both of them

    3. eskimolos

      08/12/2023, 6:07 pm
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      And it wasn’t Wally’s stunt that changed Linda’s mind, he’s just lying all around here.

  28. IniquitousKing

    08/12/2023, 1:46 am
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    I think just telling Lucy it worked is a way better option than explaining the whole circus that -actually- went down there.

    Also go away Jennifer. I know this is your room, but go stand out in the hall for a while or something.

  29. Kenny Williams

    08/12/2023, 1:46 am
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    And that’s when Billie realized dhe done F’d up.

    1. Bryy

      08/12/2023, 4:14 am
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      We’re probably about a year away from that.

  30. Grayfinity

    08/12/2023, 1:58 am
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    Sounds dumb coming out of your mouth, huh Jennifer?

  31. Freezer

    08/12/2023, 2:29 am
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    Just leaving out that Sal already had them sold on Lucy before you and Amber showed up, huh?

  32. DarkoNeko

    08/12/2023, 2:32 am
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    yeah, you really deserve to have him used by Ethan.

  33. TulipKitten

    08/12/2023, 2:59 am
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    Honestly, if there’s no polycule between Lucy, Walky, and Amber, I kinda want to see Lucy and Jacob get together. Also assuming Lucy is purely heterosexual. I think she confirmed she is at some point. (If she’s not, I might crack pair her with Malaya)

    I’m worried that Walky’s milquetoast attitude with her will slowly eat at her, and she might break up with him. I’m pretty sure Walky’s not going to break up with her. God, I feel painfully for Lucy since I’ve been in her shoes. She’s deluding herself into believing her relationship is great even though it’s got huge problems that she is more than willing to overlook.

    Reason I said Jacob is that both he and Lucy have a religious background, and Jacob mentioned that he wanted a girlfriend who’s a lot like Joyce. Joyce screwed up any chance with Jacob and she’s an atheist now. Lucy doesn’t know Joyce super well, and she doesn’t like Sarah. Their circles may also already kind of mesh, especially since she’s friends with Raidah.

    1. C.T. Phipps

      08/12/2023, 5:41 am
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      I think Walky wanted to be Lucy’s friend but found out they were dating retroactively.

      And went, “Uh, sure, I guess.”

      But he’s not really attracted to her.

    2. Hoboturtle

      08/12/2023, 7:56 pm
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      That might be his only option unless 3rd Joyce: Liz somehow becomes a main stay.

  34. Bash

    08/12/2023, 3:56 am
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    I think this makes it pretty clear that Jennifer wasn’t mad about Asher not smoking, or being stereotypically “bad”. She’s mad at him because he acted like Walky. She wants to think of herself as more professional, more mature, and more put-together than Walky. When Walky joined the group for brunch and it actually went well, that pulled the rug out from under it all. Asher contributed to that dynamic and that’s why she is upset.

    1. Needfuldoer

      08/12/2023, 4:15 am
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      If there’s one thing Jennifer loves, it’s cramming people into cubbyholes and expecting them to play the parts they’re “supposed to”.

      1. C.T. Phipps

        08/12/2023, 5:42 am
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        Jennifer wants to be back in high school despite that not being how college works.

        1. Bash

          08/12/2023, 7:05 am

          For a while it seemed like she actually was getting better and becoming more authentic, but it seems like she slid back into some of the same patterns over the timeskip. She was dating the stereotypically hot guy and she was friends with sophomores, and I think some of that attention went to her head. I think we may start to see some character development again if her newfound social situation blows up.

        2. Mark

          08/12/2023, 7:59 am

          But that is authentically Jennifer: acquire status symbols and then let it all go to her head.

  35. Bryy

    08/12/2023, 4:15 am
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    …. Walky is gonna be in for a rude awakening when he next has any kind of interaction with his parents.

  36. Steamweed

    08/12/2023, 8:12 am
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    Third panel Jennifer. I feel this so much.

  37. ValdVin

    08/12/2023, 8:47 am
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    Is thus the most BF/GF physical affection we’ve seen for these two yet?

    1. Schpoonman

      08/12/2023, 4:29 pm
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      She sucked off his shirt that one time.

      And made eye contact during.

      1. Needfuldoer

        08/12/2023, 7:05 pm
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        Oh my…

        1. Schpoonman

          08/12/2023, 11:23 pm

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-12/01-sister-christian/solution/

          “Walky and Lucy don’t have chemistry” my ass. Someone just needs to introduce them to foodplay and Walky will start committing fast enough to make Lucy go “Hang on, maybe we’re getting too seriously too quickly.”

        2. Schpoonman

          08/12/2023, 11:29 pm

          Something something “language is an evolving construct” something “ignore my typo” something something.

  38. Antonio

    08/12/2023, 9:09 am
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    Asher is just out doing guy stuff. Nothing to worry about.

  39. Chubsius

    08/12/2023, 10:05 am
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    We’re all just waiting for Jennifer to hit rock bottom aren’t we? Or for her to show at least some introspection. On that note: just wait until Jennifer learns that Sal is the new top of the totem pole…

  40. thumb

    08/12/2023, 10:31 am
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    well, damn. Everybody here is correct. Just not about the thing they wished they were.

  41. Taffy

    08/12/2023, 1:26 pm
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    Racism can’t be defeated through logic, only beatings.

  42. Juanoku

    08/12/2023, 5:25 pm
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    SO not an idiot

  43. Nedlum

    08/12/2023, 6:08 pm
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    Does it look to anyone else like Lucy’s hand in panel 6 is connected to Jennifer’s arm in panel 7, via an off-panel elbow?

    1. Needfuldoer

      08/12/2023, 7:07 pm
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      Thanks, now I can’t un-see it.

      Scroll down until the speech bubbles are off the screen for an even more convincing effect.

  44. Bo

    08/12/2023, 11:53 pm
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    “i didnt say *I* wasnt an idiot, i said *YOURE* an idiot, lets not change the subject!”

  45. HoopsieDaisy

    08/13/2023, 10:41 am
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    That alt-tag is spot on. Can we rename the comic to “Oops, All Idiots”?

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