Ugg boots are like fashionable sweatclothes, comfortable.
Aydr
Yeah, “fashionable”. Like spraytans.
JA
I never understood the point of Uggs…or why people wear [non-work] boots when it’s not winter (sexy leather platform boots and goth boots notwithstanding).
I wear coats when it’s not cold.
Heavy winter coats.
Just because I want to.
People wonder how I don’t get super hot and sweat like crazy.
I have do idea how I do it.
Somebody
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the iniuts wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
Somebody
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the Inuits wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
Whoosh! That was the sound of a literary reference going right over your head.
Valdrax
What, just because someone first wrote it 350 years ago, you can’t comment on it?
Jacob
If you think that the statement was intended to be agreed with tehn, yeah you probably shouldn’t be commenting on it.
begbert2
(Putting aside the factual debate below-)-this depends on your specific definition of better, and for that matter on your specific definitions of heaven/hell/the rest of the cosmology.
For example I consider myself too moral to serve the Christian god as I understand it, leaving me with little choice but to take the low road.
As someone who was raised on the SDA religion, the idea that Satan and his devils get to rule Hell instead of suffering alongside the lost amuses me.
HeatPhoenix
It’s as if they don’t even know that Jesus rules hell now, haha plebs.
vlademir1
Heh. The variety of variations on the cosmological, theological and moral constructs within Christianity are legion. For all but the most basic you can typically find a denomination that holds an opposite view
begbert2
Actually I’m pretty sure that you can find variation on even the most basic stuff too, up to and including whether a given person even is a Christian.
Aydr
If they aren’t a Christian, then that’s not really “within Christianity” now is it.
begbert2
I meant when a person thinks they’re a christian and other christians think they’re not one. In theory the disagreement might be mutual. I can see the potential for epistemological confusion, but I see no way for us to objectively define which person’s opinion should or shouldn’t be counted.
You know a group isn’t unified by agreement when they can’t even agree on who’s in the group.
For example, there are some protestant sects that do not consider Catholicism to be truly “Christian,” as well as the inverse. Many people do not consider Mormons to be “Christian,” even though Jesus is right there in the name (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), because they use an extra book or two. And on and on…
drs
You mean DumaChristopher Rudd Elaine.
#obscurecomicgeek
drs
Of course, all the other fallen angels swapped serving in Heaven for serving in Hell. Whoops!
Well, she started out with a leg up due to the whole “studying is better than illegal drugs and/or reckless partying” thing, but granted that since then most of her authority has been derived from force of will and a baseball bat.
swissaboo
“studying is better than illegal drugs or partying” is a matter of opinion. For example, in Islam various schools of sufi mysticism have at times held drugs and partying to be a way to get closer to god. (Willis plz give Sarah a sufi roommate if you ever get to “next year”)
drs
Do Sufis say it’s okay to bug and disrupt your college roommate with your theological partying?
swissaboo
That’s not the moral dispute in question, its “studying vs drugs and partying” not “studying vs drugs and partying and being a jerk.”
begbert2
No, the dispute was “studying vs illegal drugs or partying”, if you want to get pedantic. And by “illegal” we mean “could get Sarah thrown out of college and/or into jail for merely allowing her roommate to keep them in the room.”
If that’s the sort of drugs the Sufis party with, I have no objection to saying that Sarah would have the moral high ground opposing practices that can ruin the lives of those around you.
slicedtoad
you been to college begbert? Every other person is on drugs and most people party. You don’t get thrown out for having a druggy room mate.
If the situation is bothering you enough that it’s hurting your studies or making you loose too much sleep, there are better ways to deal with your room mate then to get them kicked out. I don’t know the details of Sarah’s room mate problems so I can’t be sure but from what we know, Sarah was a bit of a dick handling that problem.
swissaboo
Legality on its own is not a moral issue, so I left it out.
swissaboo
Also I kinda figured we were talking in the general case: studying IN GENERAL vs drugs and partying IN GENERAL. Since Sarah’s stance on this issue does in fact extend passed where she’s personally involved (see: her opinion on billie) this was fair I think? I mean wouldn’t everyone say studying is morally superior to getting your roommate kicked out of college?
Why do the people condemning Sarah and defending the druggie assume Sarah did not try to talk to her first? The Sarah haters seem to be so fond of “getting the whole story,” they forget about that part, don’t they?
You can debate the “morality” of drug abuse til you’re blue in the face, but the indispuable fact is that the roommate knowingly and willingly broke the law as well as campus policy.
While Sarah may not have been kicked out merely because her roommate was doing drugs, the roommate was disruptive enough that Sarah was in fear of losing her scholarship. Said scholarship was the only thing keeping her in school.
I would submit that, depending on how out of control the roommate was and what drugs she was on, Sarah’s moral obligation to her roommate (doubly so if they were friends) was to get her help to get her clean. Like somebody mentioned a couple strips ago, it would be very interesting if the ex-roommate was actually grateful to Sarah for turning her life around.
Long and short , Sarah fulfilled her legal obligations, as anybody should, but especially somebody wanting to go to law school. These are all supposedly adults, and part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for one’s own actions and their consequenses. Only gangsters and junior high studends blame the person who reports a crime.
yo
The true collegiate answer is to study illegal drugs
and partying.
Getting thrown out can greatly facilitate your college
experience by reducing your class load.
Sufis are a mixed bunch, from frumpy uptight fundies
to expand your mind for god. Also centuries of
persecution means what they say in private is different
from what they say in public.
To be entirely fair, Joyce never asked her to come and Sarah insisted.
So no, it’s not Joyce’s fault.
begbert2
I just reviewed the conversation in question, and reading it again all at once (as opposed to over several days), it’s got pretty odd flow. Sarah first imposed herself as a replacement for Billie (on the notion that Billie was going to damage Joyce), but seemed to completely abandon the idea in frustration when Joyce stated that she thought Sarah hated her. (Hated Joyce, that is.) Then Joyce turned the situation around and stated that she wished that Sarah would do small nice
things with her, and lo and behold Sarah decides to join the two of them, rather than usurping Billie. So in a way we’re both right – though in the end it was Joyce’s prodding that sealed the deal.
This sort of messy-looking writing would seem problematic, except that’s how people actually act.
130 thoughts on “Take”
Nexev
Joyce has a point, her luck outside is shit.
Plasma Mongoose
At least she scored some Ugg boots if nothing else.
HeatPhoenix
But then there’s the problem that the Ugg boots are trashy shit.
Plasma Mongoose
Ugg boots are like fashionable sweatclothes, comfortable.
Aydr
Yeah, “fashionable”. Like spraytans.
JA
I never understood the point of Uggs…or why people wear [non-work] boots when it’s not winter (sexy leather platform boots and goth boots notwithstanding).
Krashthemystro
But they are soooo comfy… I put them in the same ranking as pajama Jeans.
Shnon
Same category as crocs, for me. far far below pajama jeans.
Can toss those stupid million layer short skirts in there too, yick.
BlueMario
I wear coats when it’s not cold.
Heavy winter coats.
Just because I want to.
People wonder how I don’t get super hot and sweat like crazy.
I have do idea how I do it.
Somebody
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the iniuts wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
Somebody
How are they trashy or anything like spray tans? I guess it makes sense if you’re a total douche. And they resemble tribal boots like the Inuits wear, so by bashing them you’re kind of being prejudice toward indigenous people…or at least their style of dress.
Somebody
Whoops double posted while trying to correct.
Aizat
The story of my life. If anything bad could happen to me, it can and it will. Judging by my luck, I’ll be dead when I’m 30, alone and unloved.
Yotomoe
That’s everyone’s life story. It’s called Murphy’s Law
cdotsq
its called ‘the universe is a fuckin dick’
Khrene Cleaver
Save up 1 dollar a day until you have enough cash to by you a hooker. Problem solved.
Shade
So if your Mike that means a nickel every hour for someones mum?
Ziaheart
That’s a lot of moms.
Shade
23 technically, since when measuring in mums you have to round own.
Shade
Oh wait my math fails me 19 mums, with a left over of 1.
Shade
*down
Plasma Mongoose
Sarah’s feeling very guilty right about now.
SkepticJ
I really do like Sarah, but her position of moral authority is pretty shot right now.
Plasma Mongoose
Former God, now fallen angel.
Aizat
Eh, better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.
Yotomoe
no it’s not.
Aizat
Well to some people, it is better.
Jacob
Whoosh! That was the sound of a literary reference going right over your head.
Valdrax
What, just because someone first wrote it 350 years ago, you can’t comment on it?
Jacob
If you think that the statement was intended to be agreed with tehn, yeah you probably shouldn’t be commenting on it.
begbert2
(Putting aside the factual debate below-)-this depends on your specific definition of better, and for that matter on your specific definitions of heaven/hell/the rest of the cosmology.
For example I consider myself too moral to serve the Christian god as I understand it, leaving me with little choice but to take the low road.
Plasma Mongoose
As someone who was raised on the SDA religion, the idea that Satan and his devils get to rule Hell instead of suffering alongside the lost amuses me.
HeatPhoenix
It’s as if they don’t even know that Jesus rules hell now, haha plebs.
vlademir1
Heh. The variety of variations on the cosmological, theological and moral constructs within Christianity are legion. For all but the most basic you can typically find a denomination that holds an opposite view
begbert2
Actually I’m pretty sure that you can find variation on even the most basic stuff too, up to and including whether a given person even is a Christian.
Aydr
If they aren’t a Christian, then that’s not really “within Christianity” now is it.
begbert2
I meant when a person thinks they’re a christian and other christians think they’re not one. In theory the disagreement might be mutual. I can see the potential for epistemological confusion, but I see no way for us to objectively define which person’s opinion should or shouldn’t be counted.
You know a group isn’t unified by agreement when they can’t even agree on who’s in the group.
Rex Hondo
For example, there are some protestant sects that do not consider Catholicism to be truly “Christian,” as well as the inverse. Many people do not consider Mormons to be “Christian,” even though Jesus is right there in the name (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), because they use an extra book or two. And on and on…
drs
You mean
DumaChristopher RuddElaine.#obscurecomicgeek
drs
Of course, all the other fallen angels swapped serving in Heaven for serving in Hell. Whoops!
swissaboo
What moral authority?
begbert2
Well, she started out with a leg up due to the whole “studying is better than illegal drugs and/or reckless partying” thing, but granted that since then most of her authority has been derived from force of will and a baseball bat.
swissaboo
“studying is better than illegal drugs or partying” is a matter of opinion. For example, in Islam various schools of sufi mysticism have at times held drugs and partying to be a way to get closer to god. (Willis plz give Sarah a sufi roommate if you ever get to “next year”)
drs
Do Sufis say it’s okay to bug and disrupt your college roommate with your theological partying?
swissaboo
That’s not the moral dispute in question, its “studying vs drugs and partying” not “studying vs drugs and partying and being a jerk.”
begbert2
No, the dispute was “studying vs illegal drugs or partying”, if you want to get pedantic. And by “illegal” we mean “could get Sarah thrown out of college and/or into jail for merely allowing her roommate to keep them in the room.”
If that’s the sort of drugs the Sufis party with, I have no objection to saying that Sarah would have the moral high ground opposing practices that can ruin the lives of those around you.
slicedtoad
you been to college begbert? Every other person is on drugs and most people party. You don’t get thrown out for having a druggy room mate.
If the situation is bothering you enough that it’s hurting your studies or making you loose too much sleep, there are better ways to deal with your room mate then to get them kicked out. I don’t know the details of Sarah’s room mate problems so I can’t be sure but from what we know, Sarah was a bit of a dick handling that problem.
swissaboo
Legality on its own is not a moral issue, so I left it out.
swissaboo
Also I kinda figured we were talking in the general case: studying IN GENERAL vs drugs and partying IN GENERAL. Since Sarah’s stance on this issue does in fact extend passed where she’s personally involved (see: her opinion on billie) this was fair I think? I mean wouldn’t everyone say studying is morally superior to getting your roommate kicked out of college?
Rex Hondo
Why do the people condemning Sarah and defending the druggie assume Sarah did not try to talk to her first? The Sarah haters seem to be so fond of “getting the whole story,” they forget about that part, don’t they?
You can debate the “morality” of drug abuse til you’re blue in the face, but the indispuable fact is that the roommate knowingly and willingly broke the law as well as campus policy.
While Sarah may not have been kicked out merely because her roommate was doing drugs, the roommate was disruptive enough that Sarah was in fear of losing her scholarship. Said scholarship was the only thing keeping her in school.
I would submit that, depending on how out of control the roommate was and what drugs she was on, Sarah’s moral obligation to her roommate (doubly so if they were friends) was to get her help to get her clean. Like somebody mentioned a couple strips ago, it would be very interesting if the ex-roommate was actually grateful to Sarah for turning her life around.
Long and short , Sarah fulfilled her legal obligations, as anybody should, but especially somebody wanting to go to law school. These are all supposedly adults, and part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for one’s own actions and their consequenses. Only gangsters and junior high studends blame the person who reports a crime.
yo
The true collegiate answer is to study illegal drugs
and partying.
Getting thrown out can greatly facilitate your college
experience by reducing your class load.
Sufis are a mixed bunch, from frumpy uptight fundies
to expand your mind for god. Also centuries of
persecution means what they say in private is different
from what they say in public.
Joe H
Good going, SARAH.
begbert2
To be entirely fair, she didn’t even want to come in the first place. Joyce wheedled her into it.
So yes, it really is all Joyce’s fault.
Aydr
To be entirely fair, Joyce never asked her to come and Sarah insisted.
So no, it’s not Joyce’s fault.
begbert2
I just reviewed the conversation in question, and reading it again all at once (as opposed to over several days), it’s got pretty odd flow. Sarah first imposed herself as a replacement for Billie (on the notion that Billie was going to damage Joyce), but seemed to completely abandon the idea in frustration when Joyce stated that she thought Sarah hated her. (Hated Joyce, that is.) Then Joyce turned the situation around and stated that she wished that Sarah would do small nice
things with her, and lo and behold Sarah decides to join the two of them, rather than usurping Billie. So in a way we’re both right – though in the end it was Joyce’s prodding that sealed the deal.
This sort of messy-looking writing would seem problematic, except that’s how people actually act.
Yotomoe
I thought she was gonna say “I can’t take you guys anywhere” but this works too.
Yotomoe
cue quirky seinfeld music*
Plasma Mongoose
Which character is Sarah then? Neuman?
Volkai
All of them.
Wonder Wig
That’s the cover album image for their new band, the … Bad Jurassic Super Dinosaurs.
TheLastOutlaw
Includes the hit single “my fist makes you bleed.”
Jhonka12
(insert canned laughter here)
Aizat
(insert canned booing here)
Jhonka12
(insert that canned whooing noise when two characters kiss unexpectedly)
Aizat
(Insert canned applause)
Piper
(Insert canned peaches.)
Kernanator
(Insert canned orders over loudspeaker)
Volkai
(Insert the city of Cannes)
Yotomoe
(please insert girders)
Plasma Mongoose
(insert anal-beads anywhere)
Bekah
*except the mouth
Plasma Mongoose
unless they were washed with soap and boiling water first.
LuckyStar7
Doesn’t that take the fun out of ANAL BEADS??!!!
Plasma Mongoose
The shitty taste is fun?!