I’m afraid to ask which one is masturbating, or how.
I’m assuming it is Malaya who is the Switch. Neither she nor Marcie strike me as a dedicated bottom, so a certain amount of power exchange would be necessary.
DoA Joyce, on the other hand, is probably a total Pillow Princess, unlike her IW counterpart.
I had to Google “pillow princess”, but now I know how to describe my partner.
butts
thaaaat doesn’t sound like an ideal situation
MatthewTheLucky
Only if Taffy isn’t into that.
Felian
Another term that is less derogatory would be “paper“ as the opposite of “stone“.
Paper is someone who is into being sexually touched, but not into giving sexual touch; and Stone is someone who is into giving someone else sexual pleasure, but not liking to be sexually touched. It’s not about being “too lazy“ or having issues, it simply are possiblities of sexual desire.
The term is not very popular (not as much as “Stone Butch“ is) and i can’t find where i read about it, otherwise i’d have been good and posted a source for further reference.
Later…
It has been 72 hours since anyone has last heard from weirderthanweird. It can only be assumed that they have disappeared into the infinite black hole that is TV Tropes. It is likely that they will never return, and thus we are holding this wake. God rest their overcurious soul.
Yup, despite all her good qualities, Dorothy does not perform great when she’s put on the spot (compare and contrast Billie who is a fudging BONGO QUEEN short term, but… less than stellar long term).
That makes the “what, what?” look she shares with Joyce in the last panel even funnier!
Ooh, or Walky. Recently demonstrated with how he got Jason his job at Galasso’s. Spur of the moment, while drunk, and having just broken up with Dor’.
Dorothy, meanwhile, is all about laying out a plan and isn’t great at adjusting on the fly. Although, flexible planning totally seems like a skill she’d want to build…
End Credits is her giving the stone to Galasso, who rewards her with an open tab at the bar. Jason is markedly uncomfortable and British in the background.
A very anti-climactic ending, and somehow that makes it REALLY funny to me (especially in lieu of all the bickering about it over the last little while).
She just basically challenged Joyce to run around with an illegal exotic pet she doesn’t know a thing about. I like her a whole lot less now. This is not how you care for a pet. Especially not for an illegal feral pet that can get dangerous for humans and has high needs concerning temperature and air humidity. She’s not handling her responsibility very well.
There is some merit to the notion that ‘cool’ and ‘responsible’ are not necessarily the same things.
Felian
Maybe not on the common definition of “cool“. I personally agree with Alanari that there’s nothing cool about bad pet care and carrying a pet around just for coolness. Same with rats. Lots of people carry them around and claim that the rats like it, when in fact, rats are territorial and get stressed in unfamiliar surroundings… it’s not cool to put your needs to be seen as cool above what your pets need!
Zach
I’ve always assumed it was more of a therapy animal thing. If the rat primarily remains in its pouch, is it in unfamiliar territory?
I grew up with mice, be bred a boy so nice he wouldn’t let a mom eat her babies. Only pick up the ones that walk into your hand, put them down when they get squirmy. I had rats briefly, they are domesticated. One got out and woke my dad up rubbing on his face. With 4 cats and 2 dogs in the house, we think she must have gone straight for him. They can be bred to REALLY like attention.
Where’s the abuse?
the final pam
You said yourself that you only pick up the ones that walk into your hands and put them down when they get squirmy. Already you are showing respect for your pets and giving them space when they need to, and presumably, you’re not just carrying them around everywhere, but also giving them opportunity to explore.
That’s vastly different from what the comment you’re replying to was talking about, which I assumed is pet owners that just grab at their pets no matter what and constantly hold/carry them around, regardless of what the pet wants or needs. Like… think about how people let children grab at and mishandle animals, treating them much they would inanimate toys, and thinking it’s fine because they’re just ‘playing’. If you don’t see a difference in that, or if you don’t see how that behavior can be abusive or harmful for a pet, I can’t help you.
Emily
Responsible pet ownership is super cool. Animal neglect is supremely uncool.
At the least it’s nice to see Malaya being consistent. This approach fits nicely with what she claims to respect.
Of course, it also wouldn’t be out of character for her to be inconsistent and get really mad at Joyce about this, so I wasn’t sure what to expect.
Crap, right, Malaya’s a reflexive contrarian even if there’s probably good reasons not to do a thing (like the iguana being secret).
Ah well, I guess it’s more dramatically appropriate if its someone closer to Joyce who does the ‘boundaries matter’ thing rather than the girl who Joyce just kinda wants to be friends with (and frankly, Malaya doesn’t really give a damn about other’s boundaries herself so).
Although, Joyce feeling affirmed in her bad boundary habits is also how she’s been justifying it when confronted so yeah, probably gonna have to be drastic. Too bad, I like Joyce and don’t really want to see her sad, but I suspect it’s gonna go down that way.
Malaya did terrify Joyce by getting within her boundaries, though (panel 3). That at least shows that Joyce has some innate understanding of boundaries, and Malaya quietly used that to intimidate her. (Look at her face: there’s no way she’s just getting close so Fuckface can migrate back.) So possibly she’ll prove to have softened Joyce up for the sermon on keeping your distance.
Though I suspect Malaya is mostly jealous of Sal. And the things she claims to not like about Sal are bullshit – the whole you’re just a poser rebel thing.
Sal’s given her plenty of reasons to dislike her, but those don’t seem to be her real reasons.
Regalli
Also the ‘Sal is unhappy to have a heat lamp shone in her face/Malaya calls her an animal hater’ strip. The two of them just have a ton of friction and at least half of it seems to be them trying to justify why when they simply never clicked.
thejeff
Yeah, though that was well past the point they already were pissed at each other.
Though it’s not explicit, since we don’t see how they first met, I think most of it on Sal’s part was just her reflexive “I don’t want anyone else intruding on Marcie and me”.
Nikol Geier
Yeah, that is worth noting—Malaya is a jerk to Sal, but Sal definitely started the fire by trying to monopolize Marcie’s time and friendship.
DailyBrad
Malaya’s also just kind of obnoxious. For some, that is certainly a selling point, but for someone whose default is more mellow, it grates on Sal, probably.
Then again, Sal did warm to Joyce, so it’s not impossible she’ll warm to Malaya. She already did some by Malaya acknowledging that Marcie misses Sal.
BBCC
On the other hand, Sal doesn’t really mind Carla hanging around with them, so Malaya’s personality probably plays a role in it.
158 thoughts on “Careful”
Ana Chronistic
“ain’t got time for anyone who can’t get into even MILD shenanigans, after all”
MM
Joyce Brown, Queen of Drunks and Rebels Without a Clue
butts
bate-‘n’-switch
Schol-R-LEA;2
I’m afraid to ask which one is masturbating, or how.
I’m assuming it is Malaya who is the Switch. Neither she nor Marcie strike me as a dedicated bottom, so a certain amount of power exchange would be necessary.
DoA Joyce, on the other hand, is probably a total Pillow Princess, unlike her IW counterpart.
Delicious Taffy
I had to Google “pillow princess”, but now I know how to describe my partner.
butts
thaaaat doesn’t sound like an ideal situation
MatthewTheLucky
Only if Taffy isn’t into that.
Felian
Another term that is less derogatory would be “paper“ as the opposite of “stone“.
Paper is someone who is into being sexually touched, but not into giving sexual touch; and Stone is someone who is into giving someone else sexual pleasure, but not liking to be sexually touched. It’s not about being “too lazy“ or having issues, it simply are possiblities of sexual desire.
The term is not very popular (not as much as “Stone Butch“ is) and i can’t find where i read about it, otherwise i’d have been good and posted a source for further reference.
EvilMidnightLurker
Is there a “scissors” in this context?
Kris
I don’t know if Malaya’s respect is worth the effort.
King Daniel
Your Approval Fills Me With Shame: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame
weirderthanweird
NooOOOOOOO!!! Why would you do this to me???
lightsabermario
Later…
It has been 72 hours since anyone has last heard from weirderthanweird. It can only be assumed that they have disappeared into the infinite black hole that is TV Tropes. It is likely that they will never return, and thus we are holding this wake. God rest their overcurious soul.
Doctor_Who
It probably has at least some rarity value.
Shiro
And thus Joyce became the badass takes-shit-from-no-one chick she always dreamed of being, but only in Malaya’s head
ShinyNeen
I feel like panel 1 Dorothy is like “welp I tried my best but I guess Joyce is getting murdered now”
Good thing Malaya refuses to play into our expectations! At least, I think that’s a good thing.
Bagge
Yup, despite all her good qualities, Dorothy does not perform great when she’s put on the spot (compare and contrast Billie who is a fudging BONGO QUEEN short term, but… less than stellar long term).
That makes the “what, what?” look she shares with Joyce in the last panel even funnier!
ShinyNeen
Ooh, or Walky. Recently demonstrated with how he got Jason his job at Galasso’s. Spur of the moment, while drunk, and having just broken up with Dor’.
Dorothy, meanwhile, is all about laying out a plan and isn’t great at adjusting on the fly. Although, flexible planning totally seems like a skill she’d want to build…
Bagge
That’s another great comparison, which is why they complemented each other so well. *cries*
And Joyce is getting there as well. Her getting them away from Mary just now is a good example.
Plasma Mongoose
Bongo Cat > Bongo Queen
These are not auto-corrects
Meta
She’ll probably also beat you up though
Stephen Bierce
“Mischief MANAGED.”
Bagge
Shenanigans sisters out!
ShinyNeen
*Roll Credits*
JessWitt
Gag reel ensues.
LookingIn
mid-credits scene shows Malaya receiving the hidden Infinity Stone hidden in Joyce’s hair from Fuckface
Bagge
Nooooo! Her powers of teleportation is gone!!!
Matthew Evan Davis
End Credits is her giving the stone to Galasso, who rewards her with an open tab at the bar. Jason is markedly uncomfortable and British in the background.
Sol Karas
A very anti-climactic ending, and somehow that makes it REALLY funny to me (especially in lieu of all the bickering about it over the last little while).
Sol Karas
YAY I’m Jason again 😀
Suitora
Forgot the Malaya tag.
King Daniel
That’s because Malaya was a ghost the whole time…oooooOOOOOOoooooo….
Kris
Or a life model decoy!
J
Or a skrull!
LookingIn
Or he just really hates writing her and blocked all mention of her from his mind
Nikol Geier
Malaya’s hatedom is the most dedicated in the whole fandom, I think.
Lingo
And the Fuckface tag.
Golddragon
An interaction with Malaya doesn’t go poorly?
What are the odds?
Axel
I kind of like it since she hated Lucy
Emily
I mean Joyce being justified in her ignoring other people’s boundaries in favour of her own whims seems like a poor outcome to me.
Rex Vivat
She just did this to mess with all those people who wanted her to tear into Joyce, didn’t she? Malaya, trolling through the fourth wall.
Bagge
Heh, that was a pure BOSS move.
I am very reluctant to admit it…. but Malaya is cool.
Alanari
She just basically challenged Joyce to run around with an illegal exotic pet she doesn’t know a thing about. I like her a whole lot less now. This is not how you care for a pet. Especially not for an illegal feral pet that can get dangerous for humans and has high needs concerning temperature and air humidity. She’s not handling her responsibility very well.
Bagge
There is some merit to the notion that ‘cool’ and ‘responsible’ are not necessarily the same things.
Felian
Maybe not on the common definition of “cool“. I personally agree with Alanari that there’s nothing cool about bad pet care and carrying a pet around just for coolness. Same with rats. Lots of people carry them around and claim that the rats like it, when in fact, rats are territorial and get stressed in unfamiliar surroundings… it’s not cool to put your needs to be seen as cool above what your pets need!
Zach
I’ve always assumed it was more of a therapy animal thing. If the rat primarily remains in its pouch, is it in unfamiliar territory?
I grew up with mice, be bred a boy so nice he wouldn’t let a mom eat her babies. Only pick up the ones that walk into your hand, put them down when they get squirmy. I had rats briefly, they are domesticated. One got out and woke my dad up rubbing on his face. With 4 cats and 2 dogs in the house, we think she must have gone straight for him. They can be bred to REALLY like attention.
Where’s the abuse?
the final pam
You said yourself that you only pick up the ones that walk into your hands and put them down when they get squirmy. Already you are showing respect for your pets and giving them space when they need to, and presumably, you’re not just carrying them around everywhere, but also giving them opportunity to explore.
That’s vastly different from what the comment you’re replying to was talking about, which I assumed is pet owners that just grab at their pets no matter what and constantly hold/carry them around, regardless of what the pet wants or needs. Like… think about how people let children grab at and mishandle animals, treating them much they would inanimate toys, and thinking it’s fine because they’re just ‘playing’. If you don’t see a difference in that, or if you don’t see how that behavior can be abusive or harmful for a pet, I can’t help you.
Emily
Responsible pet ownership is super cool. Animal neglect is supremely uncool.
Masumi
You just think that. Fuckface powers work better when she’s wearing him.
thejeff
At the least it’s nice to see Malaya being consistent. This approach fits nicely with what she claims to respect.
Of course, it also wouldn’t be out of character for her to be inconsistent and get really mad at Joyce about this, so I wasn’t sure what to expect.
Yotomoe
I did enjoy today’s adventure with Malaya, alt text.
Bagge
So did I!
Clif
Same.
Cheshrin
Huh.
I did not expect that, but in retrospect I feel like I should have.
Clif
The Mary card is still hanging.
Stoodmuffin
Malaya you mind game playing mother fuckin
DailyBrad
The other shoe dropped, only it was a clown shoe made of Nerf. And I respect that.
merbrat
^ <3! It squeaked as it bounced, too.
BBCC
Crap, right, Malaya’s a reflexive contrarian even if there’s probably good reasons not to do a thing (like the iguana being secret).
Ah well, I guess it’s more dramatically appropriate if its someone closer to Joyce who does the ‘boundaries matter’ thing rather than the girl who Joyce just kinda wants to be friends with (and frankly, Malaya doesn’t really give a damn about other’s boundaries herself so).
Although, Joyce feeling affirmed in her bad boundary habits is also how she’s been justifying it when confronted so yeah, probably gonna have to be drastic. Too bad, I like Joyce and don’t really want to see her sad, but I suspect it’s gonna go down that way.
Rabid Rabbit
Malaya did terrify Joyce by getting within her boundaries, though (panel 3). That at least shows that Joyce has some innate understanding of boundaries, and Malaya quietly used that to intimidate her. (Look at her face: there’s no way she’s just getting close so Fuckface can migrate back.) So possibly she’ll prove to have softened Joyce up for the sermon on keeping your distance.
Regalli
Yep.
Sigh. Oh, Malaya.
newllend(henryvolt)
And with that Malaya has gained more respect for Joyce than she has for Sal.
Kris
That’s not really an achievement. I’m pretty sure Malaya respects Fuckface’s droppings more than Sal.
BBCC
Malaya would probably respect a boiled cabbage more than Sal and that is entirely Sal’s fault.
Derek
entirely? eh, I say it’s 80% Sal
thejeff
Though I suspect Malaya is mostly jealous of Sal. And the things she claims to not like about Sal are bullshit – the whole you’re just a poser rebel thing.
Sal’s given her plenty of reasons to dislike her, but those don’t seem to be her real reasons.
Regalli
Also the ‘Sal is unhappy to have a heat lamp shone in her face/Malaya calls her an animal hater’ strip. The two of them just have a ton of friction and at least half of it seems to be them trying to justify why when they simply never clicked.
thejeff
Yeah, though that was well past the point they already were pissed at each other.
Though it’s not explicit, since we don’t see how they first met, I think most of it on Sal’s part was just her reflexive “I don’t want anyone else intruding on Marcie and me”.
Nikol Geier
Yeah, that is worth noting—Malaya is a jerk to Sal, but Sal definitely started the fire by trying to monopolize Marcie’s time and friendship.
DailyBrad
Malaya’s also just kind of obnoxious. For some, that is certainly a selling point, but for someone whose default is more mellow, it grates on Sal, probably.
Then again, Sal did warm to Joyce, so it’s not impossible she’ll warm to Malaya. She already did some by Malaya acknowledging that Marcie misses Sal.
BBCC
On the other hand, Sal doesn’t really mind Carla hanging around with them, so Malaya’s personality probably plays a role in it.