I went to a ritual the Druid circle in my city held today. It was pretty cool. Then I made my roommates binge Over the Garden Wall with me, because it’s mandatory for Halloween.
Tomorrow I’m going to buy piles of discount candy and maybe go to a drag show.
I was amazed to find we’re the most popular Halloween stop in our ‘hood. No candy. We give out comic books to the older kids and age-appropriate temporary tattoos to the little ones.
For a while, my family’s house was the house to hit… in more ways than one. We were the house that the bad kids dared people to steal decorations from.
Chaucer59
My wife doubled down at the last minute and handed out Hot Wheels to the toddlers. So cute.
We watched some Scooby Doo/WWE crossovers for Sunday because my dad wasn’t gonna be home and tonight I’m going to my boyfriend’s to hang out with him and his best friend and then I’mg going to come home and watch movies with my brother.
I live in a new neighborhood, one that apparently gets tons of trick-or-treaters, which is new for me.
So I’m handing out treats. Gonna be the cool house and give full sized bars (as long as the supply lasts at least, got some fun sized for emergency backup).
Well I have a truly terrifying amount of homework, so I will be doing that and trying not to fail my classes. Though if I become too exhausted to work anymore, there is a scary audiodrama I’ve been meaning.
Thanks!! Well I’m still bummed out I didn’t get to release the DoA horror game ?
On the bright side, it’s still my favorite holiday, so imma treat myself to some Hallow-weed cookies and chilly down with horror classics like Jurassic Park, Alien, Freddy vs Jason, Hocus Pocus, as well as some new horror anime like Promised Neverland and Made in Abyss.
I’m also gonna finish the first season of Little Demon, the show is fucking PERFECT ???
Probably gonna blast Pumpkin Hill music at all hours (beginning at midnight) until someone physically makes me stop. After that, see if I can’t find a red t-shirt my size for a makeshift Knuckles costume.
Then I guess I’ll watch some Halloween-related or otherwise-spooky media. Gotta do It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown! for sure. Might watch some old Doctor Who and try to be happy those eight faces are canon while forgetting the particular tortured way in which they were made canon.
Fortunately Halloween isnt really a thing here. And we have dogs so those few kids that actually bother give our place a wide berth. We’ve imported enough silly American culture without adding this one to the list.
I’m going to read all the comics I usually read every day, then watch some youtube, make a quick dinner, get some sleep, have a small breakfast, fuck around online, and then go to work. It’s just another Monday.
We had the Halloween party at our school last Wednesday. Laser tag and costume contest. Today I showed the kids the Disney classics “The Skeleton Dance” and ‘Trick Or Treat”(with Donald Duck and Witch Hazel).
Gonna listen to some SCP podcasts until I head into the office for our annual chili contest. Eat a bunch of chili and then drive home, then maybe work on some red beans and rice for dinner. Watch some spooky movies and give kids candy.
I’ve never been in a country that celebrates Halloween but it’s always been one of my favorite holidays. I already read, watch, and listen to a lot of horror, so tonight I’ll just curl up with a great horror movie, probably.
I went to a funeral. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but that’s what I got. It involved roughly four hours’ driving time each way, so along with some family visiting, it took up the entire day.
Afterwards, I watched a few Gravity Falls episodes with my mother, so that was nice.
Everybody has a fictional character they crush on to an absurd degree (mine is Kira Nerys). Jennifer’s is a minor Star Wars Legends/Clone Wars character.
It illustrates her anti-nerd facade is just that.
Needfuldoer
Mirror Universe Kira.
That is all.
C.T. Phipps
By Willisverse multiversal law, which is a good example for everything, Intendant Kira being bi means Main Kira is.
RowenMorland
Kira that lives rent free in Gul Dukat’s head and laughs at the idea Sisko would ever respect him.
… okay, Ruth, I call BS on that last one. You can’t do a thing and then be angry that you succeeded. I mean, you can be, but it’s shitty and does nothing to support you. You done fucked up.
Yeah, this one really makes it seem like the reason Jennifer kept ignoring Ruth breaking up with her was that Ruth TOLD her to. Which is a BS situation to put somebody in, and a BS thing to then be salty about
I real confused by this whole thing now cause the consensus was that Billie was abusive and toxic and Ruth was in the right to force her out of the relationship but now Ruth regrets breaking up??? Kind of makes her seem like the abusive one to put this on Jennifer. But their relationship is like a rollercoaster through a funhouse mirror with grenades strapped to it anyway so maybe it’s not supposed to make sense.
they’re both awful for each other. ruth is arguably worse for being a bit older and in a position of small authority, but in terms of “who’s right about feelings” it’s “neither, both of them need to go see hecking therapists”
Ari
I think they both tried and it didn’t work? Very few treatment options for anything work for everyone.
I don’t think Ruth is actually angry Jennifer didn’t “let her” break up with her, or at least I don’t think she’s actually blaming Jennifer for that. To me it looks more like just a counterdig for the sake of the counterdig, to prove that they both failed to stick to their word. Obviously up to individual interpretation, but that’s the vibe I’m getting from her wording and expression
Also, I notice that the Which Character Is Most Right/Wrong comments tend to be kinda fun to write, but usually tedious to read, at least for me. Does anyone else feel that way?
(To clarify, I’m not asking people to stop, I’m perfectly able to skip a day or scroll on by whenever I’m not in the mood to read comments! Just, I can’t think of other things that I find more fun to write than to read, so I wonder what’s up with that, and if it’s common.)
yeah it reads much closer to me as “these are the excuses that they’re telling one another” because they’re both mad for incoherent and intense reasons and there’s no real explanation other than “sometimes shit doesn’t work” and they’re working to that point.
i would think jen would wanna avoid ruth, and avoid any kinda provoking in case she actually ends up relapsing into drinking and suicidal ideation again
hmm ruth I’m not sure that’s the own you think it is
Honestly, not to be total trash, but that line makes me really question these dynamics anew. Like, does Ruth WANT Jennifer to pursue her? Is Jennifer mad because she has correctly identified that Ruth’s been behaving dishonestly and irrationally? Jennifer is an awful communicator in many ways, but Ruth unquestionably is, too, and… Ruth has given basically no indications she wants to break up except that she thinks it’s for Jennifer’s own good.
Jennifer’s shitty reaction is, yeah, shitty, but it’s also her at her worst in a lot of ways–she thinks Ruth is self-destructing and is sick of Ruth acting like she isn’t, and maybe it’s magnifying her worst traits because she’s *scared* for the woman she loves. Hence her trying to hook Ruth up with people, being satisfied when Ruth lashes out, etc. She doesn’t know how to process this breakup, and a part of her always worried (hoped?) that Ruth was doing it self-destructively and that Ruth was still in danger without her.
This is mostly Devil’s Advocate. I think calling this ship toxic and bad is a pretty safe take, and I definitely don’t want to debate that point when I probably overall agree with you. That said, I have… questions.
Oh, and to be clear, the “satisfied” could as much be relief that Ruth isn’t trying to take the bullet for her anymore as the more toxic “oh good you’re still a mess who needs me”. Like, Jennifer seems to be worried that Ruth is self-destructing for Jennifer’s sake, and Jennifer wants Ruth to stop pretending to be fine when she’s obviously hurting.
I think it’s well-established neither Ruth or Jennifer know WHAT they want and don’t think they deserve anything good in their lives. Ruth’s anger is that Jennifer remained dumped apparently and Jennifer is mad that Ruth finally “got better” then chose to dump her for it.
Even though Ruth did everything she could to break up for real, I think a part of her was hoping that Jennifer would keep pursuing her and it would be out of her hands.
What even is real feelings to either of them at this point. Their relationship was buried under so much performative misery it’s hard to actually know now.
I think Jennifer is forgetting that their relationship was always an inseparable alloy of love and (mostly self) hate. Ruth being mad at Jennifer is just as real as her undiminished love, even the deepest hate is not incompatible with the greatest love.
Both Jennifer and Ruth are becoming better people.
But they loved the shitty version of each other, which means they’re pissed at both changing.
It’s oddly relevant to Joyce who is exhausted with the fact all of her friends liked the “Old Joyce” more than the person she thinks is objectively better.
I mean at this point their relationship is essentially an arms race on who can be more toxic to the other so I think it makes sense that they flip flop on who’s the shittiest at any given moment.
131 thoughts on “Lied”
Ana Chronistic
you lied because you made your bed and had to LIE IN IT
wait no
Ana Chronistic
good job, Willis, you get a candy
The Wellerman
Happy Halloween everyone!!!!
??? ???????
How are you all gonna celebrate? Lemme know below!
*plays “It’s Terror Time Again” by Skycycle on hacked muzak*
Madock345
I went to a ritual the Druid circle in my city held today. It was pretty cool. Then I made my roommates binge Over the Garden Wall with me, because it’s mandatory for Halloween.
Tomorrow I’m going to buy piles of discount candy and maybe go to a drag show.
Chaucer59
I was amazed to find we’re the most popular Halloween stop in our ‘hood. No candy. We give out comic books to the older kids and age-appropriate temporary tattoos to the little ones.
True Survivor
That is awesome. Of course, you have the most popular stop.
Twitcher
For a while, my family’s house was the house to hit… in more ways than one. We were the house that the bad kids dared people to steal decorations from.
Chaucer59
My wife doubled down at the last minute and handed out Hot Wheels to the toddlers. So cute.
BBCC
Happy Halloween!
We watched some Scooby Doo/WWE crossovers for Sunday because my dad wasn’t gonna be home and tonight I’m going to my boyfriend’s to hang out with him and his best friend and then I’mg going to come home and watch movies with my brother.
Doctor_Who
I live in a new neighborhood, one that apparently gets tons of trick-or-treaters, which is new for me.
So I’m handing out treats. Gonna be the cool house and give full sized bars (as long as the supply lasts at least, got some fun sized for emergency backup).
True Survivor
Well I have a truly terrifying amount of homework, so I will be doing that and trying not to fail my classes. Though if I become too exhausted to work anymore, there is a scary audiodrama I’ve been meaning.
True Survivor
PS. Happy Halloween to you too, Wellerman. What are your plans for All Hallows Eve?
The Wellerman
Thanks!! Well I’m still bummed out I didn’t get to release the DoA horror game ?
On the bright side, it’s still my favorite holiday, so imma treat myself to some Hallow-weed cookies and chilly down with horror classics like Jurassic Park, Alien, Freddy vs Jason, Hocus Pocus, as well as some new horror anime like Promised Neverland and Made in Abyss.
I’m also gonna finish the first season of Little Demon, the show is fucking PERFECT ???
RassilonTDavros
Probably gonna blast Pumpkin Hill music at all hours (beginning at midnight) until someone physically makes me stop. After that, see if I can’t find a red t-shirt my size for a makeshift Knuckles costume.
Then I guess I’ll watch some Halloween-related or otherwise-spooky media. Gotta do It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown! for sure. Might watch some old Doctor Who and try to be happy those eight faces are canon while forgetting the particular tortured way in which they were made canon.
Clif
I’m driving home from a fantastic weekend.
ktbear
Fortunately Halloween isnt really a thing here. And we have dogs so those few kids that actually bother give our place a wide berth. We’ve imported enough silly American culture without adding this one to the list.
Decidedly Orthogonal
While I fully appreciate the point about silly american culture, Halloween is like, the *one* thing worth importing.
Decidedly Orthogonal
On that topic (imported culture), what aspect of your culture would you export and be happy to see america adopt?
Needfuldoer
The same way I always do Halloween: trying to sleep and hoping the local trick-or-treaters respect the unspoken rule: “no porch light no candy”.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Keep company with my kid who is sick this year. ?
Azhrei Vep
I’m going to read all the comics I usually read every day, then watch some youtube, make a quick dinner, get some sleep, have a small breakfast, fuck around online, and then go to work. It’s just another Monday.
Amós Batista
No Halloween here. Our holiday is in November 2nd, when latin countries attend the Day of the Dead (or Dia de los Muertos, in spanish-talk countries).
Hilen
Er, maybe Latin countries is too broad? We don’t have that here in Arg
Max
We had the Halloween party at our school last Wednesday. Laser tag and costume contest. Today I showed the kids the Disney classics “The Skeleton Dance” and ‘Trick Or Treat”(with Donald Duck and Witch Hazel).
The Wellerman
Super fun!!! ?
egg egg
Gonna listen to some SCP podcasts until I head into the office for our annual chili contest. Eat a bunch of chili and then drive home, then maybe work on some red beans and rice for dinner. Watch some spooky movies and give kids candy.
I’m dressing up as an Installation Wizard.
The Wellerman
mmmmm…. chilli dogs are a great way to chilly down ?
powerpowerpow
I’ve never been in a country that celebrates Halloween but it’s always been one of my favorite holidays. I already read, watch, and listen to a lot of horror, so tonight I’ll just curl up with a great horror movie, probably.
Paradox
I have to work
Plus side, work pays double on holidays, instead if the usual 1.5x
Wizard
I went to a funeral. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but that’s what I got. It involved roughly four hours’ driving time each way, so along with some family visiting, it took up the entire day.
Afterwards, I watched a few Gravity Falls episodes with my mother, so that was nice.
Chaucer59
Well, SHE certainly told HER.
Doctor_Who
Ruth: “You lied by saying you loved me more than Kit Fisto!”
Jennifer: “You lied by insinuating that I don’t have a chance with him! Plans are in motion!”
Bicycle Bill
What’s the big deal about Kit Fisto?
C.T. Phipps
Everybody has a fictional character they crush on to an absurd degree (mine is Kira Nerys). Jennifer’s is a minor Star Wars Legends/Clone Wars character.
It illustrates her anti-nerd facade is just that.
Needfuldoer
Mirror Universe Kira.
That is all.
C.T. Phipps
By Willisverse multiversal law, which is a good example for everything, Intendant Kira being bi means Main Kira is.
RowenMorland
Kira that lives rent free in Gul Dukat’s head and laughs at the idea Sisko would ever respect him.
Clif
Ask Jennifer.
Rose by Any Other Name
… okay, Ruth, I call BS on that last one. You can’t do a thing and then be angry that you succeeded. I mean, you can be, but it’s shitty and does nothing to support you. You done fucked up.
Chaucer59
I think Ruth was the initiator of this $&!t-show, but they both screwed up from that point on.
Steelbright
Yeah, this one really makes it seem like the reason Jennifer kept ignoring Ruth breaking up with her was that Ruth TOLD her to. Which is a BS situation to put somebody in, and a BS thing to then be salty about
RassilonTDavros
Agreed, also sorry for the accidental flag
Sirksome
I real confused by this whole thing now cause the consensus was that Billie was abusive and toxic and Ruth was in the right to force her out of the relationship but now Ruth regrets breaking up??? Kind of makes her seem like the abusive one to put this on Jennifer. But their relationship is like a rollercoaster through a funhouse mirror with grenades strapped to it anyway so maybe it’s not supposed to make sense.
Yeet
they’re both awful for each other. ruth is arguably worse for being a bit older and in a position of small authority, but in terms of “who’s right about feelings” it’s “neither, both of them need to go see hecking therapists”
Ari
I think they both tried and it didn’t work? Very few treatment options for anything work for everyone.
thejeff
Maybe there is no “abusive one”? Just two messed up kids, rather than an abuser and a victim.
Sneakystorms
I don’t think Ruth is actually angry Jennifer didn’t “let her” break up with her, or at least I don’t think she’s actually blaming Jennifer for that. To me it looks more like just a counterdig for the sake of the counterdig, to prove that they both failed to stick to their word. Obviously up to individual interpretation, but that’s the vibe I’m getting from her wording and expression
Leorale
Same here.
Also, I notice that the Which Character Is Most Right/Wrong comments tend to be kinda fun to write, but usually tedious to read, at least for me. Does anyone else feel that way?
(To clarify, I’m not asking people to stop, I’m perfectly able to skip a day or scroll on by whenever I’m not in the mood to read comments! Just, I can’t think of other things that I find more fun to write than to read, so I wonder what’s up with that, and if it’s common.)
DashWallkick
yeah it reads much closer to me as “these are the excuses that they’re telling one another” because they’re both mad for incoherent and intense reasons and there’s no real explanation other than “sometimes shit doesn’t work” and they’re working to that point.
Alex
I think it’s one of those things that you say when you’re mad even though you know it’s unfair.
Cmasta1992
I feel bad for Jennifer being hurt but man they’re so awful for each other I can’t be mad about the outcome.
anon
i would think jen would wanna avoid ruth, and avoid any kinda provoking in case she actually ends up relapsing into drinking and suicidal ideation again
BBCC
Yaaaaayyyyyy they’re talking again!
Surely this will end up being a healthy conversation right?
Ahahahahaha, I kill me.
Imogen
hmm ruth I’m not sure that’s the own you think it is
Honestly, not to be total trash, but that line makes me really question these dynamics anew. Like, does Ruth WANT Jennifer to pursue her? Is Jennifer mad because she has correctly identified that Ruth’s been behaving dishonestly and irrationally? Jennifer is an awful communicator in many ways, but Ruth unquestionably is, too, and… Ruth has given basically no indications she wants to break up except that she thinks it’s for Jennifer’s own good.
Jennifer’s shitty reaction is, yeah, shitty, but it’s also her at her worst in a lot of ways–she thinks Ruth is self-destructing and is sick of Ruth acting like she isn’t, and maybe it’s magnifying her worst traits because she’s *scared* for the woman she loves. Hence her trying to hook Ruth up with people, being satisfied when Ruth lashes out, etc. She doesn’t know how to process this breakup, and a part of her always worried (hoped?) that Ruth was doing it self-destructively and that Ruth was still in danger without her.
This is mostly Devil’s Advocate. I think calling this ship toxic and bad is a pretty safe take, and I definitely don’t want to debate that point when I probably overall agree with you. That said, I have… questions.
Imogen
Oh, and to be clear, the “satisfied” could as much be relief that Ruth isn’t trying to take the bullet for her anymore as the more toxic “oh good you’re still a mess who needs me”. Like, Jennifer seems to be worried that Ruth is self-destructing for Jennifer’s sake, and Jennifer wants Ruth to stop pretending to be fine when she’s obviously hurting.
C.T. Phipps
I think it’s well-established neither Ruth or Jennifer know WHAT they want and don’t think they deserve anything good in their lives. Ruth’s anger is that Jennifer remained dumped apparently and Jennifer is mad that Ruth finally “got better” then chose to dump her for it.
Alex
Even though Ruth did everything she could to break up for real, I think a part of her was hoping that Jennifer would keep pursuing her and it would be out of her hands.
Suet
“You lied about the Leafs making it to the Stanley Cup”
*plays on the jacket patch Said I Loved You…But I Lied by… Michael Bolton*
Andy
Nah, the only ones who say that’ll happen are non Toronto fans. Leafs fans just wait for the Leafs to give up a 3-1 lead to lose in the first round.
Sirksome
What even is real feelings to either of them at this point. Their relationship was buried under so much performative misery it’s hard to actually know now.
Leorale
Yes, and also, people can have more than one feeling at a time. All the feelings can be real. People are complicated like that.
Thag Simmons
I’m gonna say “contradictory”
True Survivor
I think Jennifer is forgetting that their relationship was always an inseparable alloy of love and (mostly self) hate. Ruth being mad at Jennifer is just as real as her undiminished love, even the deepest hate is not incompatible with the greatest love.
C.T. Phipps
Both Jennifer and Ruth are becoming better people.
But they loved the shitty version of each other, which means they’re pissed at both changing.
It’s oddly relevant to Joyce who is exhausted with the fact all of her friends liked the “Old Joyce” more than the person she thinks is objectively better.
Freezer
To be fair “The Old Joyce” wasn’t as prone to self-loathing funks as the “new” version. She’d have a brief freakout and move on, at the most.
Sajuuk-Khar
“Reopening old wounds? That’s for basic bongoes. We’re about to go SPELUNKING in these wounds!!”
—Jennifer and Ruth, probably
Steelbright
This relationship definitely keeps me guessing on who’s being shittier. Jennifer was kinda winning until Ruth dropped that last line, woof
Sirksome
I mean at this point their relationship is essentially an arms race on who can be more toxic to the other so I think it makes sense that they flip flop on who’s the shittiest at any given moment.
Steelbright
For real. This made me laugh tho >.>
Needfuldoer
MAS (Mutually Assured Shittiness)
LovelyMonsters
Oh for fucks’ sakes please just stop speaking to each other, I cannot bear this endless dramawanking you both do
Madock345