You, sir, win an internet. Or several.
Several internets. (That’s still a “hip” and “cool” internet reference, right?)
a snow ʍousɐ
Wait, is that a reference? I thought it was just an internet saying
Roborat
What? It was just an internet saying? I thought it was a real award. Guess I’ll be putting these back where I found them then (tosses a box of internets behind some nearby bushes).
TCS
I’ll take them, if you don’t want them anymore.
Orion Fury
Seconded, I seem to be missing some…
Slartibeast Button, BIA
[Box of internets interprets the bushes as damage and routes around them]
It reflects pretty well on him that he’s even-handed enough to consider that maybe just because he’s been to dinner with someone doesn’t mean they’ve given him a full and unbiased account of all their interactions.
Exactly. He got to know Sarah before Raidah and they got along fine. Breaking off all contact with Sarah because a girl he’s went out with a handful of times said she was a terrible person isn’t a very smart train of thought for someone going to school to become a lawyer. Now if they had been together a year and he had not met Sarah before, things would be different, but that’s not the case.
He probably figures there’s more than what Raidah is telling him. It isn’t a simple a “Sarah is a jerk who punched me” and their interaction he saw in Sarah’s room kinda sold that.
Based on what, though? Jacob’s interactions with Sarah often don’t end well, you have to admit it’s strange he keeps pursuing them.
Spencer
Jacob’s recognized that a lot of Sarah’s worst moments come from trying to box out affection to the point where she told Jacob that he didn’t want to be friends with her, something she’s trying to overcome here.
If all he knew about Sarah was that she was the bongo who punched his girlfriend in the face then yes, it would be weird, but he has an established relationship with her.
Actually it reflects pretty well that he doesn’t instantly believe he has the whole story because he seems aware that Raidah’s version of events is biased by her dislike of Sarah and lacks the full context. And he WAS friends with Sarah first so while he might not blame Raidah for her bias, he is probably quite aware that anything she says about Sarah is stained in it to make him dislike her.
To be fair, Raidah only said that Sarah was toxic for her, not that Jacob couldn’t talk to her or that other people couldn’t have healthy interactions with her. Which is actually a growth from where she was considering she harassed Sarah for a year over the idea that Sarah was toxic to everyone and must be isolated and hurt because of it:
Even though we know that Sarah is in the right, here, I’ve seen waaaaay too many incidences of “BF hangs out with girl who has crush on him, swears up and down it’s innocent even though GF is uncomfortable, is eventually tempted to do something heartbreaking.”
Here’s hoping at least that he will put a stop to it if Sarah becomes openly disrespectful of his and Raidah’s relationship, or that he will do right by Raidah and leave her first instead of going for a side piece.
Has anything about Jacob indicated that he’d do so? Also I hate cheating storylines so I’d be okay if they never happened because they are very, very rarely written well.
He might as well carry a business card wearing “hi I like hand holding and long chats about feelings.”
Oh no. That’s Sarah 2.0.0.1, but I can see the mistake. They have talked about her being more user friendly in the next update, but that just means she will be less likely to physically assault people who are not currently attempting to harm her or any human labeled as “friend” or “tolerable associate”.
1.0.0.1 and 1.0.0.2 are both bugfix releases, which is good given how many mission critical bugs Sarah has.
Bluewind
Yup. Half the time she’s around NPC:Jacob, she freezes, glitches, or says dialog unrelated to the current mission. I’ve also seen her somehow react to him like an enemy and run away even though she is a warrior and her battle confidence is higher than 0.
Orion Fury
Turns out in release 1.0.0.3 that when her battle confidence is set to 0 and then gains a rank in pacifist, she threatens to nuke everyone.
Me too. Her progress seems slow, but she’s been changing over less than two months which is a normal and frankly impressive pace. I’ve seen people improve less in a year than she has so far with a lot of it thanks to developing friends who care about her even with all her prickles and bluntness.
It’s due to her friendship with Dina. Dina wades into scary social situations without fear, is honest and open, and people respond well to that. She’s a great role model for a misanthrope like Sarah.
I’m mostly happy because Jacob is a real cool dude who doesn’t judge people based on others’ words, i know way too many people including me fall into that kinda trap sometimes
I judge based on the word of someone who I completely trust and known for years. That list is currently two people. Everyone else I listen with a healthy level of internal skepticism.
Lol! I meant that when it comes to the opinion of others I only trust two people without pause, but as trusting as I can be I might should not trust my own judgment XD
Deanatay
Yeah. Beware your OWN biases. A lot of people miss that.
Bluewind
Yeah. I’m not gonna lie, I have biases caused by my upbringing and the town I live in which I am slowly but surely weeding through. Take trans* people for example. When I found out that they were something that existed, I was pretty unnerved. I was in my early 20s to boot. It didn’t help that the people I knew painted a pretty bigoted picture of them. I took people’s word too much back then.
Then there was a person on TV who was identified male at birth, was trans*, and stopped in the middle because they were happy right there. That left me completely confused for so many reasons! How could someone be both male and female and neither at the same time? What pronouns do you use on someone who was a mix match of attributes attributes to males and females? Why stop in the middle instead of picking one? We’re they really trans* or just a fashion choice? The gender binary was all I ever knew and finding out that there was more was the equivalent of seeing someone with naturally green skin and glowing eyes for me. It broke all the rules I knew and I automatically tried to categorize while part of me seen it as unnatural as well as fascinating.
Then there was a documentary on intersex individuals and people who weren’t perfectly binary. I was fascinated. There really were naturally occurring people who weren’t male or female. There were people who were genetically one gender while presenting as another. There were people born that didn’t fit easily in a category and had surgery without their knowledge in the name of gender normalization. Gender was some kind of lie I had been taught. I think the most jarring part was the part about the babies who had surgery without their knowledge as the realization hit that I had a scar where my labia minora should be which my parents had told me was because the doctors said they found a birth defect which had to be fixed.
Then there was a show I watched. It interviewed a transwoman and she was… normal for lack of a better word. She wasn’t any of the things I had been taught, but she had a difficult life because of how people treated her and the law was against her. And I felt like shit because even though I wasn’t someone who sent her death threats or bullied her or tried to take away her rights, I would have looked at her like she was off. I was ashamed and realized I was a bigot, so I decided to stop.
I started doing research. Reading research and personal stories. Watching documentaries. Reading web comics with someone in the cast who wasn’t cis. Gathering data. Learning. And I realized that all those things I had been told when I was younger were misguided at best and terrible bigoted stereotypes that people thought shouldn’t exist at worst. So I changed and became a better person. I threw out all the old information I had in my brain. I embraced being polysexual as I realized that not only was I attracted so some of the people who didn’t fit the binary label, but could see myself dating one of them if the opportunity arose.
Later, I ended up in the hospital and met a gender fluid individual. She (using the pronoun used while there) was trying to figure out who she was and the words for how to explain how she felt while surrounded by people who called her crazy. I ended up being the only person who was kind to her in there. She was use to people being assholes or keeping their distance, but not use to people being kind and friendly. And I felt like an ass all over again because not too long ago I would have thought terribly of this sweet kind energetic person.
Orion Fury
I do believe that my personal hell would be your second paragraph. Gods damn compulsion to have a label for everything. I applaud your growth, and which to complete mine, but that has to wait until I deal with the shitstorm of my personal life. Until then, I utilize what may be know as “LA LA LA Not Listening” or something like that.
140 thoughts on “History”
Ana Chronistic
“you’d need a microscope”
Cholma
She’s just a big ol’ softy now!
butts
Misanthroscope.
Lipke the Articulate
You, sir, win an internet. Or several.
Several internets. (That’s still a “hip” and “cool” internet reference, right?)
a snow ʍousɐ
Wait, is that a reference? I thought it was just an internet saying
Roborat
What? It was just an internet saying? I thought it was a real award. Guess I’ll be putting these back where I found them then (tosses a box of internets behind some nearby bushes).
TCS
I’ll take them, if you don’t want them anymore.
Orion Fury
Seconded, I seem to be missing some…
Slartibeast Button, BIA
[Box of internets interprets the bushes as damage and routes around them]
Willoughby Chase
*ramps up a scanning tunneling microscope*
Will this do?
AnvilPro
Sarah you’ve talked to, like, 3 people today. How could we not notice?
John
Well, we’re not casual viewers. We’re creepy stalkers.
motorfirebox
Hey! I am extremely offended by this statement. I am a creepy stalker. All you other guys are just copycats.
Flynn58
So everything aside, it’s doesn’t reflect very well on Jacob that he’s talking amicably with someone he thinks assaulted his girlfriend.
MatthewTheLucky
It reflects pretty well on him that he’s even-handed enough to consider that maybe just because he’s been to dinner with someone doesn’t mean they’ve given him a full and unbiased account of all their interactions.
miados
he seems pretty mellow about things right now
Bluewind
Exactly. He got to know Sarah before Raidah and they got along fine. Breaking off all contact with Sarah because a girl he’s went out with a handful of times said she was a terrible person isn’t a very smart train of thought for someone going to school to become a lawyer. Now if they had been together a year and he had not met Sarah before, things would be different, but that’s not the case.
Spencer
He probably figures there’s more than what Raidah is telling him. It isn’t a simple a “Sarah is a jerk who punched me” and their interaction he saw in Sarah’s room kinda sold that.
Najaru
Based on what, though? Jacob’s interactions with Sarah often don’t end well, you have to admit it’s strange he keeps pursuing them.
Spencer
Jacob’s recognized that a lot of Sarah’s worst moments come from trying to box out affection to the point where she told Jacob that he didn’t want to be friends with her, something she’s trying to overcome here.
If all he knew about Sarah was that she was the bongo who punched his girlfriend in the face then yes, it would be weird, but he has an established relationship with her.
Jason
Well Sarah did apologize….so it’s all good maybe? Ha
Sam
Actually it reflects pretty well that he doesn’t instantly believe he has the whole story because he seems aware that Raidah’s version of events is biased by her dislike of Sarah and lacks the full context. And he WAS friends with Sarah first so while he might not blame Raidah for her bias, he is probably quite aware that anything she says about Sarah is stained in it to make him dislike her.
Cerberus
To be fair, Raidah only said that Sarah was toxic for her, not that Jacob couldn’t talk to her or that other people couldn’t have healthy interactions with her. Which is actually a growth from where she was considering she harassed Sarah for a year over the idea that Sarah was toxic to everyone and must be isolated and hurt because of it:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/feigned/
KKoro
Even though we know that Sarah is in the right, here, I’ve seen waaaaay too many incidences of “BF hangs out with girl who has crush on him, swears up and down it’s innocent even though GF is uncomfortable, is eventually tempted to do something heartbreaking.”
Here’s hoping at least that he will put a stop to it if Sarah becomes openly disrespectful of his and Raidah’s relationship, or that he will do right by Raidah and leave her first instead of going for a side piece.
Spencer
Has anything about Jacob indicated that he’d do so? Also I hate cheating storylines so I’d be okay if they never happened because they are very, very rarely written well.
He might as well carry a business card wearing “hi I like hand holding and long chats about feelings.”
miados
I feel like sarah when it comes to how i am getting better in general. ever so slowly that its almost like am i actually improving.
Leorale
Hey, that’s rad. And whatever you’re trying to change, I hope you will take heart that gradual changes tend to be way more sustainable.
Doctor_Who
Sarah 1.0.0.1. Slightly more user friendly.
inqntrol
Can’t wait for the 1.0.0.2 version, which is full user friendly.(that might take a while)
Bluewind
Oh no. That’s Sarah 2.0.0.1, but I can see the mistake. They have talked about her being more user friendly in the next update, but that just means she will be less likely to physically assault people who are not currently attempting to harm her or any human labeled as “friend” or “tolerable associate”.
Dana
1.0.0.1 and 1.0.0.2 are both bugfix releases, which is good given how many mission critical bugs Sarah has.
Bluewind
Yup. Half the time she’s around NPC:Jacob, she freezes, glitches, or says dialog unrelated to the current mission. I’ve also seen her somehow react to him like an enemy and run away even though she is a warrior and her battle confidence is higher than 0.
Orion Fury
Turns out in release 1.0.0.3 that when her battle confidence is set to 0 and then gains a rank in pacifist, she threatens to nuke everyone.
Kernanator
Sarah 1.0.0.1: 50% less likely to explode in flames!
miados
still better odds than samsungs phones. thats the one that has been exploding right?
a snow ʍousɐ
Yep. The Samsung Galaxy
Deanatay
Now comes with seven boxes to return her in!
Orion Fury
Don’t forget about the no-fly rule.
MatthewTheLucky
Minor mannerism fixes.
Mr. Mendo
So, is there a countdown to when Sarah screws everything up, or are we gonna keep this plate spinning until it can REALLY cause some damage? 😉
Doctor_Who
My guess is they actually get along great, and then Raidah comes in just in time to misinterpret what she sees.
Anorak
quit using the tardis to spoil things 😛
butts
No promises.
Orion Fury
Aside from your usual ones…
Architex
Ah yes, that’s the reason Jacob shouldn’t mention Raidah
Orion Fury
It puts the comment section into a tizzy?
Nono
We’ve replaced this Sarah with a ever-so-slightly less irritable one. Let’s see if he notices!
Orion Fury
BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK!
poofdepoof
Aww I’m so proud of Sarah right now 🙂
Bluewind
Me too. Her progress seems slow, but she’s been changing over less than two months which is a normal and frankly impressive pace. I’ve seen people improve less in a year than she has so far with a lot of it thanks to developing friends who care about her even with all her prickles and bluntness.
Deanatay
It’s due to her friendship with Dina. Dina wades into scary social situations without fear, is honest and open, and people respond well to that. She’s a great role model for a misanthrope like Sarah.
Dean
The difference is readily apparent, to skilled observers equipped with precisely calibrated instruments.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Calibrated against the International Standard Misanthrope, a hermit in the Pyrenees?
Orion Fury
But does it account for quantum theory?
Joe Archer
Does the new Sarah discover any version of Sarah as a new topic she might spend her deprecations on?
Stephen R. Bierce
*plays Patti LaBelle’s “New Attitude” on the hacked Muzak*
Teddae
I’m mostly happy because Jacob is a real cool dude who doesn’t judge people based on others’ words, i know way too many people including me fall into that kinda trap sometimes
Bluewind
I judge based on the word of someone who I completely trust and known for years. That list is currently two people. Everyone else I listen with a healthy level of internal skepticism.
Anorak
is one of those people yourself?
Bluewind
Lol! I meant that when it comes to the opinion of others I only trust two people without pause, but as trusting as I can be I might should not trust my own judgment XD
Deanatay
Yeah. Beware your OWN biases. A lot of people miss that.
Bluewind
Yeah. I’m not gonna lie, I have biases caused by my upbringing and the town I live in which I am slowly but surely weeding through. Take trans* people for example. When I found out that they were something that existed, I was pretty unnerved. I was in my early 20s to boot. It didn’t help that the people I knew painted a pretty bigoted picture of them. I took people’s word too much back then.
Then there was a person on TV who was identified male at birth, was trans*, and stopped in the middle because they were happy right there. That left me completely confused for so many reasons! How could someone be both male and female and neither at the same time? What pronouns do you use on someone who was a mix match of attributes attributes to males and females? Why stop in the middle instead of picking one? We’re they really trans* or just a fashion choice? The gender binary was all I ever knew and finding out that there was more was the equivalent of seeing someone with naturally green skin and glowing eyes for me. It broke all the rules I knew and I automatically tried to categorize while part of me seen it as unnatural as well as fascinating.
Then there was a documentary on intersex individuals and people who weren’t perfectly binary. I was fascinated. There really were naturally occurring people who weren’t male or female. There were people who were genetically one gender while presenting as another. There were people born that didn’t fit easily in a category and had surgery without their knowledge in the name of gender normalization. Gender was some kind of lie I had been taught. I think the most jarring part was the part about the babies who had surgery without their knowledge as the realization hit that I had a scar where my labia minora should be which my parents had told me was because the doctors said they found a birth defect which had to be fixed.
Then there was a show I watched. It interviewed a transwoman and she was… normal for lack of a better word. She wasn’t any of the things I had been taught, but she had a difficult life because of how people treated her and the law was against her. And I felt like shit because even though I wasn’t someone who sent her death threats or bullied her or tried to take away her rights, I would have looked at her like she was off. I was ashamed and realized I was a bigot, so I decided to stop.
I started doing research. Reading research and personal stories. Watching documentaries. Reading web comics with someone in the cast who wasn’t cis. Gathering data. Learning. And I realized that all those things I had been told when I was younger were misguided at best and terrible bigoted stereotypes that people thought shouldn’t exist at worst. So I changed and became a better person. I threw out all the old information I had in my brain. I embraced being polysexual as I realized that not only was I attracted so some of the people who didn’t fit the binary label, but could see myself dating one of them if the opportunity arose.
Later, I ended up in the hospital and met a gender fluid individual. She (using the pronoun used while there) was trying to figure out who she was and the words for how to explain how she felt while surrounded by people who called her crazy. I ended up being the only person who was kind to her in there. She was use to people being assholes or keeping their distance, but not use to people being kind and friendly. And I felt like an ass all over again because not too long ago I would have thought terribly of this sweet kind energetic person.
Orion Fury
I do believe that my personal hell would be your second paragraph. Gods damn compulsion to have a label for everything. I applaud your growth, and which to complete mine, but that has to wait until I deal with the shitstorm of my personal life. Until then, I utilize what may be know as “LA LA LA Not Listening” or something like that.
magicallady
new sarah carries a bat
Bluewind
What kind? Fruit bat?
Lipke the Articulate
Actually, that’d be old Sarah. I don’t think we’ve seen new Sarah brandish a bat yet.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
The weighting of the “Threaten/hit with a bat” option in her decision matrix has been reduced considerably.
Deanatay
New Sarah’s bat.
Orion Fury
Old Sarah was the bat. New Sarah flips tables.
Xailenrath