I feel like Robin’s missing a step but maybe tomorrow’s comic has something to say about that
(maybe… the comic tends to switch focus around this time in a conversation)
that said, I do feel like Les is giving Senior Level advice for Baby’s First Relationship, though to be fair p much all advice ends up being a lot more useful after the mistakes are made
You, of all people, should know what’s coming up next.
Oh sure, us mere mortals can see what happens tomorrow, but you must have some secret tier to see two days into the future. It’s the only way to explain the consistently high quality first posts.
I mean I guess that’s good advice, but it also feels kinda lazy. Like I could’ve told Becky it’s okay to make mistakes. But whatever. I guess Robin gets a point.
It turns out “take chances, make mistakes” was the only lesson Robin took away from The Magic School Bus, and she’s applied it to every problem she’s encountered since.
I am Nothing
As long as you’re willing to accept the possible consequences of these mistakes and take the opportunity to learn from them, it certainly isn’t too bad of a philosophy.
I think, in this case, Becky needs to hear it. Of course, it’s easier for us to tell that, since we can see her whole storyline playing out. Real life is much more complicated.
The thing is it’s really vague general advice. “You’re overthinking things, you have permission to make mistakes” is advice that applies to almost anything. Relationships, taking a test, voting for lgbtq discriminating bills, figuring out how to terrify your daughter into dropping out of college and also getting revenge on the mask vigilante that broke your nose who also happens to be your daughter…..okay maybe not everything, but most things.
It’s decent advice, but I don’t know. It feels a little “fortune cookie” to me. Maybe that’s why it feels both good and bad.
Regalli
So in other words, kind of perfect for Robin’s particular brand of politician who says whatever she thinks the people she’s talking to now want to hear?
“It’s okay to make mistakes because it’s not the end of the world and that’s how we learn” is good advice. “It’s okay to make mistakes because it turns out that if you refuse to learn anything and just keep making bigger and bigger ones, eventually people realise that consequences are just never going to apply to you”, I’m not so sure about.
They’re both offering good advice here, but I feel like Leslie’s is more specific to the situation. Yes, it’s important to know making mistakes isn’t going to be a horrible failure marking you forever and ever. That said, when it comes to relationships, yeah, it’s important to think about what it is you want, how you prioritize those things, and (I’m hoping this is where Leslie was going with this) talk to your partner about it and see what happens.
Hey someone finally got Sal! And I guess now that the search is over I’m keeping Dina it seems. (Unless I type on my tablet which will always be Sarah).
Oh, apropos of nothing, the Professor Brock gravatar’s background isn’t properly transparent like the rest of the gravs. Hopefully it’s a problem fixable without resetting the gravs again.
I got my supervisor at work to finally watch both Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo & Stitch just last week! She’s now on the Kronk Bandwagon with the rest of us! Huzzah!
I’ve never had the privilege of seeing that movie in its entirety, I have no Idea what I’m missing out on.
Nayann Martinelli
Everything, that’s what you missing! Don’t deprive yourself of being a complete human being and watch Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo & Stitch* in their entirety.
*You did not clarify which one you didn’t watch, but both are great so no harm in rewatching one of them.
I haven’t seen new groove. Lilo & Stitch is great and I rewatch it all the time!
Demoted Oblivious
Wait… is Kronk in Lilo and Stitch?
Jason Rivest
Kronk is not in Lilo & Stitch. I can only guess that it was mentioned in the same post because:
1) Cholma introduced his supervisor to both movies at once.
2) They’re both underrated Disney movies that came out within a few years of each other. Those who like one often like the other as well.
Deanatay
L&S has Cobra Bubbles, who is pretty cool, but not in Kronk territory.
This is all really confusing to me given Dina’s the one who first offered up the prospect of sexytimes and said explicitly that she would be down with it. Unless Becky means that she wants Dina to have the EXACT SAME level of raging lust that she herself apparently has?
Except that then if she acts on it, well, they already sinned once right? So maybe they won’t be in as much trouble for doing it again. Potentially.
(… Or potentially Becky remembers what happened the last time she and a cute girl just couldn’t help themselves and keep their hands off each other, and when they started making out they didn’t think to make sure the door was locked. Yeah, nothing good comes from this level of suppressing without talking about things maturely.)
Maybe Becky’s falling into that weird female trope where she’s not allowed to want sex, but can be ‘pressured’ or ‘coerced’ into it by a partner who can’t control their own desires. Never understood that one, myself.
This is why waiting until marriage for sex is a terrible idea.
I mean, respect to those who pull it off, but it is a really bad idea. Making certain that you and your partner are compatible through testing is an important part of decision making.
It’s not about libido or level of lust. Look at what Becky says in the first panel: Dina isn’t into her. She is not attracted to Becky. She has said that she is perfectly happy, even enthusiastic, to have sex with Becky whenever Becky is ready, yes. But it is not because she is attracted to her. She has other reasons. She doesn’t look at Becky and “get horny.” The most she’s said is that she “wouldn’t rule it out,” but that’s not a guarantee. And THAT is what Becky is worried about. She’s worried that Dina, despite loving her, will maybe never look at her and feel attraction.
Yeah that’s what it sounds like to me as well, and it doesn’t make sense to me since Becky doesn’t intend to have sex before marriage anyway, which means this problem could be many years off from really needing to be worried about. Unless for some reason Becky and Dina get married while they’re still freshmen in college.
Like miz said above, Becky wants Dina to be attracted to her. She wants to be wanted. Even if Dina is interested in sex on some theoretical level and Becky intends to hold off for now anyway, the lack of desire may be a problem for her.
I have to wonder how much Leslie is struggling with the fact that part of Becky’s motivations are because of her religion and trying to give appropriate advice while taking that into account.
I recall the last time I heard someone advised that she should make mistakes while she’s young, she ended up throwing her best friend off an overpass and accidentally revealed that said friend was a lich… It… Didn’t go well.
Well, she did it to break up a fight over whether said friend should break her would-be boyfriends arms and legs so that he would always be reliant on her, when he wasn’t properly grateful to her after she signed a contract with a shady cat demanding she spend the rest of her short life fighting bizarre abominations in return for a miracle to heal him the first time around.
Does that clarify the issue, run-on sentences aside?
Jane
Ack, I meant to say “reference”, not “issue”.
Maybe I should sign a contract to be able to edit comments…
Discussion (171) - “Properly”
Ana Chronistic
I feel like Robin’s missing a step but maybe tomorrow’s comic has something to say about that
(maybe… the comic tends to switch focus around this time in a conversation)
that said, I do feel like Les is giving Senior Level advice for Baby’s First Relationship, though to be fair p much all advice ends up being a lot more useful after the mistakes are made
Needfuldoer
You, of all people, should know what’s coming up next.
Oh sure, us mere mortals can see what happens tomorrow, but you must have some secret tier to see two days into the future. It’s the only way to explain the consistently high quality first posts.
oz
Second panel Robin is 100% right tho.
Sirksome
I mean I guess that’s good advice, but it also feels kinda lazy. Like I could’ve told Becky it’s okay to make mistakes. But whatever. I guess Robin gets a point.
Thag Simmons
I mean, “you’re overthinking it, it’s okay to make mistakes” seems like advice she needs to hear right now.
Needfuldoer
It turns out “take chances, make mistakes” was the only lesson Robin took away from The Magic School Bus, and she’s applied it to every problem she’s encountered since.
I am Nothing
As long as you’re willing to accept the possible consequences of these mistakes and take the opportunity to learn from them, it certainly isn’t too bad of a philosophy.
Spookyfox
but ya didn’t
Tan
It is simultaneously really good advice to someone who needs to hear it and absolutely terrible advice to someone who wants to hear it.
it’s extremely difficult to tell which is which until well after the fact.
Jon Rich
I think, in this case, Becky needs to hear it. Of course, it’s easier for us to tell that, since we can see her whole storyline playing out. Real life is much more complicated.
Sirksome
The thing is it’s really vague general advice. “You’re overthinking things, you have permission to make mistakes” is advice that applies to almost anything. Relationships, taking a test, voting for lgbtq discriminating bills, figuring out how to terrify your daughter into dropping out of college and also getting revenge on the mask vigilante that broke your nose who also happens to be your daughter…..okay maybe not everything, but most things.
It’s decent advice, but I don’t know. It feels a little “fortune cookie” to me. Maybe that’s why it feels both good and bad.
Regalli
So in other words, kind of perfect for Robin’s particular brand of politician who says whatever she thinks the people she’s talking to now want to hear?
C.T Phipps
It depends what horrifying mistake it will be.
Daibhid C
“It’s okay to make mistakes because it’s not the end of the world and that’s how we learn” is good advice. “It’s okay to make mistakes because it turns out that if you refuse to learn anything and just keep making bigger and bigger ones, eventually people realise that consequences are just never going to apply to you”, I’m not so sure about.
Fnord
You weren’t expecting Robin to be handing out the RIGHT lesson, were you?
Jhon
Lesbian Love Sleuth gets relationship advice from Capt. Peachfuzz.
BBCC
They’re both offering good advice here, but I feel like Leslie’s is more specific to the situation. Yes, it’s important to know making mistakes isn’t going to be a horrible failure marking you forever and ever. That said, when it comes to relationships, yeah, it’s important to think about what it is you want, how you prioritize those things, and (I’m hoping this is where Leslie was going with this) talk to your partner about it and see what happens.
BBCC
FINALLY!
Sirksome
Hey someone finally got Sal! And I guess now that the search is over I’m keeping Dina it seems. (Unless I type on my tablet which will always be Sarah).
BBCC
Dina is a good grav! 😀
He Who Abides
She sure is ?
Thag Simmons
Oh, apropos of nothing, the Professor Brock gravatar’s background isn’t properly transparent like the rest of the gravs. Hopefully it’s a problem fixable without resetting the gravs again.
BBCC
QUIET YOU.
Thag Simmons
[sinister chuckle]
Reltzik
Way to rub Sal-t in those wounds.
Deanatay
[Mutley wheeze]
Regalli
Hooray!!!
Proto_Eevee
I want to see a scene with Becky where Leslie is the angel on her shoulder and Robin is the lil devil.
Doctor_Who
It would be identical to Kronk’s, complete with “Look what I can do” and “She’s got a point.”
Proto_Eevee
Someone has got to edit that meme into a Becky version.
Cholma
I got my supervisor at work to finally watch both Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo & Stitch just last week! She’s now on the Kronk Bandwagon with the rest of us! Huzzah!
Proto_Eevee
I’ve never had the privilege of seeing that movie in its entirety, I have no Idea what I’m missing out on.
Nayann Martinelli
Everything, that’s what you missing! Don’t deprive yourself of being a complete human being and watch Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo & Stitch* in their entirety.
*You did not clarify which one you didn’t watch, but both are great so no harm in rewatching one of them.
Proto_Eevee
I haven’t seen new groove. Lilo & Stitch is great and I rewatch it all the time!
Demoted Oblivious
Wait… is Kronk in Lilo and Stitch?
Jason Rivest
Kronk is not in Lilo & Stitch. I can only guess that it was mentioned in the same post because:
1) Cholma introduced his supervisor to both movies at once.
2) They’re both underrated Disney movies that came out within a few years of each other. Those who like one often like the other as well.
Deanatay
L&S has Cobra Bubbles, who is pretty cool, but not in Kronk territory.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
I’ve claimed before that Leslie is angel al la the In Nomine RPG. An Elohite pf Flowers, or maybe Destiny.
Robin? Lilim of Factions, or maybe Media.
(Unrelated, And Amazi-Girl is a Malakite of Fire, albeit one with too much Discord on board.)
StClair
and because Malakim Can’t Fall, it just keeps stacking up.
C.T Phipps
Robin used to be a Balseraph but she’s been redeemed….ish.
Now she’s the Angel of Uncomfortable Truths.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Revelations, then.
Yotomoe
Naw, Robin is the little Debbie. She’s a snack cake.
Reltzik
Nonono. The angel/devil dynamic is good vs evil. Becky’s CG, and so she gets the NG vs CN shoulder-advisors.
RassilonTDavros
Yeah reality is about to bite Robin in the ass isn’t it
Also, Becky isn’t tagged for some reason, though I imagine that’ll get fixed.
Clif
Who is this Becky you speak of?
He Who Abides
Might be talking about Rebecca, not sure.
RassilonTDavros
Last night I dreamt I went to Manderley again.
Rosicrucian
Every so often a thing Robin heard somewhere gets dislodged from her head and falls out of her mouth at the right time.
James
Stopped clock, twice a day, etc.
Wendy
This is all really confusing to me given Dina’s the one who first offered up the prospect of sexytimes and said explicitly that she would be down with it. Unless Becky means that she wants Dina to have the EXACT SAME level of raging lust that she herself apparently has?
Carla's #2 Fan
Honestly, the advice Becky really needs is to talk to Dina about it.
Spencer
You got it, with the added bonus that Dina has to show that level of raging lust without ever acting on it.
Regalli
Except that then if she acts on it, well, they already sinned once right? So maybe they won’t be in as much trouble for doing it again. Potentially.
(… Or potentially Becky remembers what happened the last time she and a cute girl just couldn’t help themselves and keep their hands off each other, and when they started making out they didn’t think to make sure the door was locked. Yeah, nothing good comes from this level of suppressing without talking about things maturely.)
Deanatay
Maybe Becky’s falling into that weird female trope where she’s not allowed to want sex, but can be ‘pressured’ or ‘coerced’ into it by a partner who can’t control their own desires. Never understood that one, myself.
Nono
Becky is torn between ‘Christian shame’, ‘Need for Validation’ and ‘Struggling with feeling worthy’.
Rose by Any Other Name
This is why waiting until marriage for sex is a terrible idea.
I mean, respect to those who pull it off, but it is a really bad idea. Making certain that you and your partner are compatible through testing is an important part of decision making.
C.T Phipps
Isaac Asimov said he and his wife were virgins when they married. Also, that it is the least romantic worse thing possible for a couple.
miz
It’s not about libido or level of lust. Look at what Becky says in the first panel: Dina isn’t into her. She is not attracted to Becky. She has said that she is perfectly happy, even enthusiastic, to have sex with Becky whenever Becky is ready, yes. But it is not because she is attracted to her. She has other reasons. She doesn’t look at Becky and “get horny.” The most she’s said is that she “wouldn’t rule it out,” but that’s not a guarantee. And THAT is what Becky is worried about. She’s worried that Dina, despite loving her, will maybe never look at her and feel attraction.
Keulen
Yeah that’s what it sounds like to me as well, and it doesn’t make sense to me since Becky doesn’t intend to have sex before marriage anyway, which means this problem could be many years off from really needing to be worried about. Unless for some reason Becky and Dina get married while they’re still freshmen in college.
thejeff
Like miz said above, Becky wants Dina to be attracted to her. She wants to be wanted. Even if Dina is interested in sex on some theoretical level and Becky intends to hold off for now anyway, the lack of desire may be a problem for her.
Segnosaur
Just because the problem is (in theory) many years off, doesn’t necessarily mean it should be ignored.
Some people may not want to invest years in a relationship only to find that in the end they are incompatible with the person they have been dating.
thejeff
Especially if the advice seems to be “wait until after you’re married since the sex thing won’t come up until then”.
Clif
That’s ….. Surprisingly good advice.
Nono
I have to wonder how much Leslie is struggling with the fact that part of Becky’s motivations are because of her religion and trying to give appropriate advice while taking that into account.
BarerMender
I have to wonder if Leslie, after everything still wants Robin, and if Robin’s advice is tipping her that way.
Jane
I recall the last time I heard someone advised that she should make mistakes while she’s young, she ended up throwing her best friend off an overpass and accidentally revealed that said friend was a lich… It… Didn’t go well.
Spencer
I understood that reference and kinda wish I didn’t.
Nayann Martinelli
Is this Puella Magi Madoka? It sounds like Puella Magi Madoka.
Jane
Well, she did it to break up a fight over whether said friend should break her would-be boyfriends arms and legs so that he would always be reliant on her, when he wasn’t properly grateful to her after she signed a contract with a shady cat demanding she spend the rest of her short life fighting bizarre abominations in return for a miracle to heal him the first time around.
Does that clarify the issue, run-on sentences aside?
Jane
Ack, I meant to say “reference”, not “issue”.
Maybe I should sign a contract to be able to edit comments…