Yeah, this is my thought. She’s actually way more nervous about this than he is. I thought she’d be cool with it, but this is like… uncharacteristically neurotic of her? I guess she worries more about appearances than she lets on…
You have to be if you wanna be the president of the United States. Appearance is everything.
Yotomoe
If I’m the president of the united states, I will hire a team of special affect artists to make explosions and epic wind every time I perform a speech.
Anderhail
Walky could provide those for Dorothy, after all, Mike DID congratulate her on her find.
And a team of artists to create a comic of you beating up terrorists dressed like supervillains, complete with POW, SHWOOP, and BAMs with every blow. Who would be the sidekick though?
Yotomoe
It would also be me.
Nathan
It would still be Medvedev
Steven
You are President of the UNITED STATES. You don’t need special effect explosions. You damn well have the resources to make real ones.
Rocky
As for epic wind, beans and cabbage should do it.
Roborat
“Sorry Mr. President, due to senate budget cuts, all we can afford are some firecrackers and two whoopie cushions.
I may have to revise my thoughts on whether she only considers this a “for fun” relationship, as she appears more stressed over this meeting than Amber did when she initially saw her father room. Actually her face kind of reminds me of Walky when he first started threw Monkey Master at her. I mean, it is probably still only for fun, but she seems to have more invested in these results than someone dressing him for future girlfriends. It IS having more impact than the incident with Joyce or the realization Dan didn’t mention the break-up to his parents. Now to figure out if it is her being worried about her parents’ view of her for dating Walky or if she doesn’t want them to dislike Walky. It is likely some combination of both, but I am interested to see where Willis goes with this.
I’ll be honest, I was NOT remotely expecting Dorothy to stress over this meeting, and was actually more concerned about Dorothy meeting Walky’s parents, though that hasn’t faded, it has just been overshadowed for now. I also appear to be abusing commas.
Bizze
It’s mostly that she isn’t completely honest with herself about what she does. She told Dan she wanted to break up because of her career plans, but that wasn’t really true – or else she wouldn’t have started to date Walky. Similarly, she’s not honest to herself about how much she likes Walky. She’s a smart and conscientious person, though, so it doesn’t usually hurt anyone (more than her breakup would have anyway), but she’ll have to learn to be more honest to herself at some point, or she’ll be a very unhappy person.
Ivan
So that video of her at ZooSkool is just her telling herself lies!? Seems like there would be easier ways with a lot less horse flies!!
Actually, I think I know what she’s worried about. The more Walky is in headlights mode, the more similar he will appear to Dan, the more cocky he is, the Less he seems like Dan. If he seems too close to Dan, then she’s worried her parents will ask her why exactly she dumped him in the first place. Much in the same way one of the things putting Dan off dating Amber is that, visually at least, she’s a “Dorothy Clone”. Dorothy especially wants to show that Dan just wasn’t for her, and Walky is, or justify going against her original “single in college to focus on her career” plan.
vsophi
He just admitted a few strips ago that the reason he was put off from dating Amber is because he is a self-saboteur, as well as intimidated by her. He was just using the whole “Dorothy clone” thing as an excuse, as he is prone to doing with pretty much everything.
ShadowMaskPrime
I’d still say Joe pointing that put to him may be part of his hesitance. Just because it was an excuse, doesn’t mean it can’t be just a little bit true too. The best excuses are, it makes them a little bit more believable…
If you said you don’t want to go down into the basement, as the light is broken, so you won’t be able to see what you are doing, when really you’re afraid of the dark and spiders, that doesn’t make the excuse untrue, just not your Main reason.
I’d say that Dorothy actually is more concerned that Walky will appear to be just like Danny to her parents, than Danny is concerned with the “Dorothy Clone” thing, partly due to the fact that She dumped Danny (so replacing him with another Danny would seem pointless), and partly because she does like Walky’s cocky attitude.
Anderhail
Very good points. I’ll admit, I had only a passing thought that Walky had been acting Danny style as far as confidence went until Dorothy’s nervousness snapped him out of it. I didn’t think any deeper into it, yet now that I do, I wonder as to how much conforming to Dorothy’s mini-freak out he will stand, especially as she is accurately describing his ability to remain confident in most situations. Just not in a flattering way. “Be yourself, just… you know… a specific version of yourself” I will admit that I am looking forward to any potential sparks between their parents and am slightly sad that Dorothy’s mom is not likely to receive a Monkey Master toy.
I wonder how much of Dorothy’s nervousness is normal for her and how much of this is generated because of how unpleasant Joyce’s parents were. I know if I introduced my parents to a friend only to have that friend’s parents haul him or her off distrustfully… well, that’d make me pretty neurotic.
Very true, though it is luckily a different enough situation to avoid complete disaster. I hope it is. I think Dorothy would not react very well to her parents dragging her (or at this point Walky) away. That would be fun to explain to everyone. “Yeah… uhmm… they’ll probably bring him back. I hope… MOM, HE’S NOT ACTUALLY MADE OF CARAMEL!” Seriously though, that incident with Joyce is a definite downer and I am really looking forward to their next discussion.
Actually, I don’t think Dorothy is actually giving Walky advice; I think these are her internal thoughts. Willis said yesterday that drawing the normal ‘thought bubbles’ took twice as long. So I’m guessing that the waviness of the speech-bubble’s tail is supposed to indicate that these are what Dorothy is thinking, not necessarily saying.
It could also mean that she is saying these at a level only Walky is meant to hear, but I seriously doubt that.
There’s pretty clear comics speech bubble shorthand for each of these things. This falls under “uneasy muttering.” She is clearly communicating with Walky and Walky alone, given his reactions to her. Otherwise, it would be either solid or broken in some clear way.. As much as I like and admire Willis, I highly doubt he’d try to buck these fairly sensible trends in a webcomic.
I was just remembering that incident and I am glad someone pointed it out. I’ll admit I did imagine Mike standing slightly off panel saying your comment out loud.
Just what exactly happened with that? I think we had a scene change, and by the time we got back, Mike and parents were gone, and Walky had wisely changed clothes?
Yes — she’s wants to convince her parents that she “traded up” (breaking up with Danny and starting a new relationship with Walky a week later). Or so it seems to me…
Willis said yesterday that drawing the normal ‘thought bubbles’ took twice as long. So I’m guessing that the waviness of the speech-bubble’s tail is supposed to indicate that these are what Dorothy is thinking, not necessarily saying.
It could also mean that she is speaking at a level only Walky is meant to hear, but I seriously doubt that.
When I said I didn’t draw any thought bubbles, it didn’t mean I willfully ignore what cartoon iconography means. It just meant that I choose not to spell out any internalized thought processes. (Except for when they say them out loud.)
Anderhail
Which is why Joyce and Walky will likely not need thought bubbles any time soon. It is also why Mike is so ominously silent for long periods of time. Horrible… amazing… silence…
Discussion (170) - “Cocksure”
Herohatch
Clearly, Dorothy inherits her taste for caramel from her mother.
The Candyman
I’ve seen enough porn to know where this is going.
Cholma
But no one delivered a pizza or said they were there to fix the pipes!
Skull025
Hey man, who needs an excuse to have some of dem caramel apples?
Drunken Nordmann
And there’s no straw on the floor.
Kennerly
We can’t hear it, but there is a funky bass guitar riff in the background.
ALLxISxGONE
…
Fred
!!!
Drunken Nordmann
Actually, I was referencing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HfVjf6_ny8
Wack'd
He fixes the cable?
Rheios
He certainly lays it? I-Is that funny? Am I doing this right?….Well crap I stumbled into another porn joke in there without intending to.
Geegles
I laugh at them now but having been there
Well I guess you could say I laugh at myself
GrrArg42
I’m always laughing at myself.
ALLxISxGONE
I’m stabbing myself…
GrrArg42
Nooooooo!!!! Don’t do that.
: (
N0083rP00F
Definitely not. It always ends up in a sticky mess. Peels and fruit pulp all over the place. ALLxISxGONE was armed with a Banana right?
Anderhail
I had thought Walky was nervous and would put his foot in his mouth, but Dorothy seems to be having the more interesting issues here.
Sporky
Yeah, this is my thought. She’s actually way more nervous about this than he is. I thought she’d be cool with it, but this is like… uncharacteristically neurotic of her? I guess she worries more about appearances than she lets on…
Skull025
You have to be if you wanna be the president of the United States. Appearance is everything.
Yotomoe
If I’m the president of the united states, I will hire a team of special affect artists to make explosions and epic wind every time I perform a speech.
Anderhail
Walky could provide those for Dorothy, after all, Mike DID congratulate her on her find.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/congratulations/
NightmareWarden
And a team of artists to create a comic of you beating up terrorists dressed like supervillains, complete with POW, SHWOOP, and BAMs with every blow. Who would be the sidekick though?
Yotomoe
It would also be me.
Nathan
It would still be Medvedev
Steven
You are President of the UNITED STATES. You don’t need special effect explosions. You damn well have the resources to make real ones.
Rocky
As for epic wind, beans and cabbage should do it.
Roborat
“Sorry Mr. President, due to senate budget cuts, all we can afford are some firecrackers and two whoopie cushions.
Anderhail
I may have to revise my thoughts on whether she only considers this a “for fun” relationship, as she appears more stressed over this meeting than Amber did when she initially saw her father room. Actually her face kind of reminds me of Walky when he first started threw Monkey Master at her. I mean, it is probably still only for fun, but she seems to have more invested in these results than someone dressing him for future girlfriends. It IS having more impact than the incident with Joyce or the realization Dan didn’t mention the break-up to his parents. Now to figure out if it is her being worried about her parents’ view of her for dating Walky or if she doesn’t want them to dislike Walky. It is likely some combination of both, but I am interested to see where Willis goes with this.
I’ll be honest, I was NOT remotely expecting Dorothy to stress over this meeting, and was actually more concerned about Dorothy meeting Walky’s parents, though that hasn’t faded, it has just been overshadowed for now. I also appear to be abusing commas.
Bizze
It’s mostly that she isn’t completely honest with herself about what she does. She told Dan she wanted to break up because of her career plans, but that wasn’t really true – or else she wouldn’t have started to date Walky. Similarly, she’s not honest to herself about how much she likes Walky. She’s a smart and conscientious person, though, so it doesn’t usually hurt anyone (more than her breakup would have anyway), but she’ll have to learn to be more honest to herself at some point, or she’ll be a very unhappy person.
Ivan
So that video of her at ZooSkool is just her telling herself lies!? Seems like there would be easier ways with a lot less horse flies!!
ShadowMaskPrime
Actually, I think I know what she’s worried about. The more Walky is in headlights mode, the more similar he will appear to Dan, the more cocky he is, the Less he seems like Dan. If he seems too close to Dan, then she’s worried her parents will ask her why exactly she dumped him in the first place. Much in the same way one of the things putting Dan off dating Amber is that, visually at least, she’s a “Dorothy Clone”. Dorothy especially wants to show that Dan just wasn’t for her, and Walky is, or justify going against her original “single in college to focus on her career” plan.
vsophi
He just admitted a few strips ago that the reason he was put off from dating Amber is because he is a self-saboteur, as well as intimidated by her. He was just using the whole “Dorothy clone” thing as an excuse, as he is prone to doing with pretty much everything.
ShadowMaskPrime
I’d still say Joe pointing that put to him may be part of his hesitance. Just because it was an excuse, doesn’t mean it can’t be just a little bit true too. The best excuses are, it makes them a little bit more believable…
If you said you don’t want to go down into the basement, as the light is broken, so you won’t be able to see what you are doing, when really you’re afraid of the dark and spiders, that doesn’t make the excuse untrue, just not your Main reason.
I’d say that Dorothy actually is more concerned that Walky will appear to be just like Danny to her parents, than Danny is concerned with the “Dorothy Clone” thing, partly due to the fact that She dumped Danny (so replacing him with another Danny would seem pointless), and partly because she does like Walky’s cocky attitude.
Anderhail
Very good points. I’ll admit, I had only a passing thought that Walky had been acting Danny style as far as confidence went until Dorothy’s nervousness snapped him out of it. I didn’t think any deeper into it, yet now that I do, I wonder as to how much conforming to Dorothy’s mini-freak out he will stand, especially as she is accurately describing his ability to remain confident in most situations. Just not in a flattering way. “Be yourself, just… you know… a specific version of yourself” I will admit that I am looking forward to any potential sparks between their parents and am slightly sad that Dorothy’s mom is not likely to receive a Monkey Master toy.
vsophi
walkertons/keeners ot4?
MichaelHaneline
Well, maybe its less about her worrying about appearances in general and more about her worrying about how her parents see her.
Jelli
I wonder how much of Dorothy’s nervousness is normal for her and how much of this is generated because of how unpleasant Joyce’s parents were. I know if I introduced my parents to a friend only to have that friend’s parents haul him or her off distrustfully… well, that’d make me pretty neurotic.
Anderhail
Very true, though it is luckily a different enough situation to avoid complete disaster. I hope it is. I think Dorothy would not react very well to her parents dragging her (or at this point Walky) away. That would be fun to explain to everyone. “Yeah… uhmm… they’ll probably bring him back. I hope… MOM, HE’S NOT ACTUALLY MADE OF CARAMEL!” Seriously though, that incident with Joyce is a definite downer and I am really looking forward to their next discussion.
Shade
Dorothy, stop giving Walky advice until you are finished looking like you’re constipated. It doesn’t lend you much credibility.
Bill
Actually, I don’t think Dorothy is actually giving Walky advice; I think these are her internal thoughts. Willis said yesterday that drawing the normal ‘thought bubbles’ took twice as long. So I’m guessing that the waviness of the speech-bubble’s tail is supposed to indicate that these are what Dorothy is thinking, not necessarily saying.
It could also mean that she is saying these at a level only Walky is meant to hear, but I seriously doubt that.
Kateastrophe
There’s pretty clear comics speech bubble shorthand for each of these things. This falls under “uneasy muttering.” She is clearly communicating with Walky and Walky alone, given his reactions to her. Otherwise, it would be either solid or broken in some clear way.. As much as I like and admire Willis, I highly doubt he’d try to buck these fairly sensible trends in a webcomic.
David Willis
The thing you seriously doubt is what it is.
bill
Thanks for clearing that up.
ABagofOranges
And whatever you do, don’t Dan this up, Walky!
Yotomoe
Worst thing he could possibly do.
David Herbert
All the moms want to hug Walky. Good thing his junk is in his pants this time. That could have been awkward.
Mkvenner
Wait, what?
Anderhail
I was just remembering that incident and I am glad someone pointed it out. I’ll admit I did imagine Mike standing slightly off panel saying your comment out loud.
Mkvenner
Oooohhhhh that incident.
Rheinman
Have you heard of the Des Moines Institute?!?!?
ocbrad1
We’re familiar with it.
ShadowMaskPrime
Just what exactly happened with that? I think we had a scene change, and by the time we got back, Mike and parents were gone, and Walky had wisely changed clothes?
Yotomoe
EVERYBODY loves Walky.
Tidal Wave
So Dorothy’s talking to herself here right?
saltchocolate
Projecting!! At least in that last panel . . .
KingMabel
Her fear is understandable.
saltchocolate
Yes — she’s wants to convince her parents that she “traded up” (breaking up with Danny and starting a new relationship with Walky a week later). Or so it seems to me…
spaceinvader42
Yeah, I was wondering that too… like, does she have some kind of psychic connection to Walky, or are her parents just pretending they can’t hear her?
Bill
Willis said yesterday that drawing the normal ‘thought bubbles’ took twice as long. So I’m guessing that the waviness of the speech-bubble’s tail is supposed to indicate that these are what Dorothy is thinking, not necessarily saying.
It could also mean that she is speaking at a level only Walky is meant to hear, but I seriously doubt that.
The Candyman
Well, Walky can clearly hear what she’s saying in this strip. Either that or he’s just wondering why she’s making awkward faces.
David Willis
When I said I didn’t draw any thought bubbles, it didn’t mean I willfully ignore what cartoon iconography means. It just meant that I choose not to spell out any internalized thought processes. (Except for when they say them out loud.)
Anderhail
Which is why Joyce and Walky will likely not need thought bubbles any time soon. It is also why Mike is so ominously silent for long periods of time. Horrible… amazing… silence…
Jackson
Or when people’s thought processes involve imagining things visually.
Mkvenner
Just remember its only for a few more days- I mean hours.
Kernanator
Quick, reboot his operating system! The button is on his butt!
Shade
But where’s Dorothy’s reboot button?
Riku
😉
hmrc4evr
I don’t think they’ve gone that far yet for him to know that.
Of course he could always double-tap her chest icon to see if she reboots that way.
Yotomoe
That’s why it didn’t show the scene where walky touches her boob. Spoilers.
Ghostforge
is it weird that all this line of conversation makes
me think of is the first episode of Chobits?
Yotomoe
Yes, cuz that means you watched Chobits.