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The Dumbing of Age Book 13 Kickstarter is still going, somehow. When will it end???? (in 19 days)
anyway go pledge for a book and some magnets
we unlock HALLOWEEN BECKY at $45k
212 thoughts on “Frosty”
NGPZ
*plays “Paralyzer” by Finger Eleven on hacked muzak*
Laura
Perfect choice!
I was imagining something like this, as shards of glass fly in scintillating, artistic slow motion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBet3jC7Kss
But yours is more badasse. ;-D
Laura
(For those who’d rather not click, I was imagining Joyce’s smithereens tinkling to the sound of Bach’s Orchestral Suite No. 3 in D Major, BWV 1068: II. Air on the G String)
Henri
Like the slow motion scene at the end of Dredd?
Laura
Oh, yes. Or like Summer Glau’s balletic fight scenes in the Serenity movie.
Or like when Quicksilver (Peter Maximoff) works his magic in the X-men movies.
ValdVin
“The last guy who got too close? Everyone calls him Gashface.”
Seriously impressed with how lucid Joyce was, in this state, in having this ready to go. And it’s also maybe a bit telling?
Decidedly Orthogonal
Wait… like he eats a lot of pussy? SIGN ME UP!
Laura
Yum! ;-9
NGPZ
Speaking of yummy things,
I just made myself a steakhouse burrito for in case I get the munchies tomorrow :9
I also got a large pepperoni pizza just in case
Taffy
He does it a lot, but he’s unfortunately terrible at it. Just awful, really. The best compliment he ever got was “It was okay, for your first time.”, the 45th time he’d done it.
IntangibleMatter
Dorothy seems like she’s done this before…
Or maybe she just seems competent next to Joyce
Much more likely the latter.
Taffy
She’s an attractive woman. Unfortunately, that fact alone makes her more likely to need “excuses” for not talking to some men.
Freemage
And unlike Joyce, she didn’t spend decades growing up in a highly sheltered environment, and therefore have stunted defense mechanisms.
Rose by Any Other Name
Is Joyce doubting her ability to defeat Walky with a broken glass, or saying that she prefers rando guy over Walky for Dorothy’s sexual partner?
Proxiehunter
She’s saying she would be a better boyfriend for Dorothy than Walky would.
Grimey
Perfect time for “Boyfriend” by Dove Cameron to start playing in the bar.
Sirksome
Joyce is saying she could defend Dorothy better than Walky could against that dude. She’s probably right too, Walky is not a fighter. He has zero dog in him.
DailyBrad
Yeah, that makes sense. He’d defuse, Joyce’ll throw hands.
Proxiehunter
And anything in reach she can lift.
TGS
I do hope we can appreciate the value of a de-escalator. Diffusing a violent situation is waaaaay more likely to be the better outcome than engaging in aggression or antagonism. This little show of bravado is amusing and shows some of whats going on in Joyce’s brain (and in her heart?) but this could have gone wrong. Given that this guy has a tag now, implying we will see him again, I hope his future appearances don’t show him escalating anything.
Miri
Love how your avatar is Ruth for this…
Also agree with you that de-escalating is better than glassing people in the face ? Just a shame that “we have boyfriends” works better to make him go away than an angry threat.
Hopefully he’s just the sort of casual misogynist who only respects women as the property of men so if they’re “taken” he’ll back off, and not a violent one who takes rejection as a deep personal attack on his ego…
Swissaboo
Frankly he wouldn’t be too good at defusing either
Ymbrael
He’d probably do great for about 30 seconds before his foot found its way squarely in his mouth.
PedanticJerkass
Well, I mean, he did punch Asher that one time. Of course, he ran away afterward with tears in his eyes and holding his hand in pain, but he still punched him.
Mark
Not to mention: Asher barely noticed.
Lars
But what about Nightguy?
Reltzik
No one remembers Nightguy.
Not even Walky.
Marianne
You never know, he might have some updog in him.
Woop de doop
What’s updogggg
Casi
Not much, what’s up with you?
Rose by Any Other Name
@Sirksome
Having slept and looked again, I completely agree with your interpretation. Thanks!
Devin
He hit a guy once! To…almost no effect. And Joyce has proficiency with drinkware. Yep, checks out.
Devin
HOW did I forget that Joyce also punched Ross one good? Yeah, Joyce is a clearly superior fighter.
Grimey
I think she’s saying that she’s got better odds beating up that guy on Dorothy’s behalf than Wally does.
Viktoria
Dorothy used the fictional boyfriends to make that guy back off. Joyce was concerned Dorothy was dating Walky again and confused about how the threat of Walky made someone back off, since Joyce thinks(correctly) that she is better in a fight than Walky.
Mark
Oh, was Walky a threat? It hadn’t occurred to me. The message I got from Dorothy was “thanks for your interest, but we have none to return.”
Ben
She’s saying that Walky would be useless in that situation. She’s probably right.
Hoboturtle
I think I agree with everyone that Joyce could take that guy better then Walky could…
Oh wait, did they mean in a fight?
Rose by Any Other Name
If you’re suggesting they “take that guy” in a sexual fashion…
Actually, Walky has slightly more experience as a lover than Joyce, so I’m gonna say that Walky could take that guy just as well as Joyce, possibly better.
deliverything
Especially if there’s free pizza involved.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/04-walking-with-dina/jim/
HueSatLight
Joyce is a better fighter than Walky. She glassed Ryan in the face, as she mentioned, punched Ross in the face, and fought goons during the basement escape (while Walky hid behind Ethan).
Coatl
The detail is that with Ross, she didn’t hesitate for a moment to get her hands dirty, I mean, there was a bloodthirsty feeling on her face, if it weren’t for Becky, things would have gotten worse.
Wereg
Pretty sure she’s saying she could kick that dude’s ass better than Walky could.
Aura
Thank you to all the people who translated that! 🙂
clif
Do you imagine we’re through?
Decidedly Orthogonal
She’s saying she’d do a better job of kicking Frosty’s ass than Walky would.
Ben
That…. seems creepy, somehow.
JA
I’m a guy and even my red flag detector went off.
Zaxares
The fact that he went straight to “need a ride home?” triggered alarm bells for me too.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Oh it is. He’s Either a creep (most likely) or an utterly oblivious clown. The way to ask that, is to offer it in a way that doesn’t involve *him*. i.e. Offer to _get the bartender_ to call them a cab.
zee
Wdym somehow? Dude might has well have worn a T-shirt that says “I have bad ideas about what consent means and Im gonna end up on the sex offender registry”. He was as subtle as a drug dealer in a 90s psa for kids
Proxiehunter
I mean, I can see a thought process that involves personally offering a ride that doesn’t involve being a creep. It does however involve not thinking about how it looks to someone on the outside of your head.
The thing is, women have been raped by the person driving the cab they or the bartender called to take them home before. So the possible thought process going through Frosty’s head would be “I know that I won’t rape them. I can’t be sure that a cab driver that gets called for them won’t. So I should offer them a ride so they’ll be safe.”
I’m not saying that he’s not throwing up a red flag in this strip. They’re right to be suspicious and Dorothy made the right call here. Just saying that he might have good intentions and poor ability to think about how he looks and the readers shouldn’t necessarily be judging him off of three panels before we know anything about him. He’s not a potential danger to us like he is to them.
Thanks to Schrodinger’s rapist turning down an offer like that is always the right decision to make. That doesn’t mean the person making it is always a creep.
zee
You won’t see this but it’s the fact he dropped it when he heard “boyfriend” for me. Maybe he took it as a “no seriously fuck off” but to me it just confirmed his intentions were to hook up. Which at this level of intoxication is automatically SA, which he probably doesn’t realize because a lot of people don’t know what consent actually is
Felian
Yeah, that also threw me. But then again, a decent guy might be aware that women say “i have a boyfriend“ to say “really dude, leave me alone”. If someone told me “i have a boyfriend“ i’d know it probably translates to “i mean No, but afraid to just say No because dudes don’t respect it“…
Sirksome
I wonder if he was actually a good person cause the track record is so in the dumpster it would be a refreshing change of pace.
Golden Yak
Well, he bails as soon as he hears they’re taken, which means that he was interested in hooking up and not just making sure they’ve got a ride home safely. But that’s hardly satantic, lots of people hook up at bars.
Maybe we’ll find out! Maybe Frosty will be a new central character and the MC of the next webcomic. It all starts here!
Kimi
He could think that doing a good deed might get him a hook-up, but he could also equally be a creep. A better phrasing to not be creepy would have been asking if they had a ride home or making sure that they weren’t planning on driving themselves. Continuing from that, asking if they had a local friend to call if they didn’t have a ride. Some people would probably think that it is none of their business and would just leave them alone.
Mollyscribbles
I think it’s possible he’s somewhat creepy but not a complete asshole and thinks “Hey, if I escort them home and don’t try taking advantage of them, I can ask them out later and get a hookup without the risk of them puking on me!”
or at least I’m desperately trying to be optimistic given the range of shitheads in the strip and also real life.
Masumi
Dunno, that might be creepier. “So, is there anyone who’d notice if you’d disappear right now?”
Kimi
Yeah, I didn’t think about that aspect. As someone mentioned below, letting an employee deal with it is probably the best.
Bogeywoman
Schrodinger’s creep is a common occurrence. He may have been creeping or he may recognise and respect “we have boyfriends” as code for “please leave us alone”.
One good experience with this for me was getting Joyce wasted at a gig, a guy asking me basically this, acknowledging my discomfort and pointed to his friends (mostly girls) and said if I want help getting home they’d walk me to the taxi rank.
Felian
THAT is a good way!
(i mean, not saying women can’t be creeps too)
but basically, if the guy is just as happy with someone else trustworthy driving me home, as himself doing it, that’s a sign he’s actually concerned and not creepy.
Yvonne
She said she had a boyfriend in response to being offered a ride, which is either:
1 – A stock phrase meaning “back off”, making backing off the correct response.
2 – In the context of how the English language works, as a literal answer to the question, “we have a ride already”. Because a significant other is, traditionally, the person you’d call for a ride home from places (since, among other things, ‘home’ might be the same place for both of you).
So depending on his intentions, the statement either works as telling him she’s not interested, or telling him she’s fine because she always has a ride. Either way, “okay, bye,” is the correct response.
Virtue is it’s own reward here, since not being involved with any of these people is basically the greatest blessing the gods can grant in this universe so he just dodged a bullet made of, like, razor blades and broken glass and drama.
someone
It’s not just as soon as Dotty says they’re taken, it’s also after Joyce threatened violence. So both girls have demonstrated they’re not interested in his company, and at this point insisting any further would be creep behavior.
Bash
Yeah, it’s WAY worse if he keeps hanging around after neither of them was interested in a ride or a conversation.
Weatherheight
The advice my older sister gave me during my senior year in high school:
If you’re worried, that’s nice, but tell the bartender and let them handle it – don’t hassle girls on their night out.
DinaJoyce
Exactly. Even as a woman. I was at a bar/restaurant the other day and overheard two ladies in the bathroom talking about which of them was going to drive home. I didn’t say anything to them, I just stopped to chat with the bouncer on my way back to my table and let him know that neither of those ladies seemed safe to drive. He assured me he would make sure they had a safe ride. That’s his job.
Hrodvitnir
I mean… a sober man approaching unknown drunk women to offer a ride is never, ever something you should trust. So whether or not there is a hypthetical reality in which this comic character is a good guy, I’m only going to be able to view him with suspicion.
Mark
We’ll never know now.
Nono
Frosty the snowman…
Nathan