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Justice
Posted on May 17, 2011 by David M Willis

106 thoughts on “Justice”

  1. Jen Aside

    QUICK WITH THE HOT HOT LOVIN’

    ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    1. Paranoia

      I just cannot imagine them together.
      Joe/Danny, that’s a different story.

      1. Bekah

        Even though they’re fictional characters in a webcomic, I imagine Joe and Danny together whenever I have a date with BOB…

        I am a disgusting, disgusting girl.

        1. Cranberrier

          That’s really not fair to Bob, you need to share your fantasies with him.

      2. Madock345

        THANKYOU
        we need more people in on this slash

        1. Ridureyu

          We need more people?

          Yes. It should be Joe/Danny/Walky/Mike.

        2. lord of dance

          geez no love for ethan in the all male gang bang? at least he already knows hes gay… i think… damn! is ethan gay in this universe?

        3. XMD

          No, he’s spider-car. Can’t you read?

        4. lord of dance

          wait. i thought that amber was spider-car.

          on the subject of another car that has absolutely nothing to do with spider-car, if danny gets joed in the back seat of ultra-car does that count as a threesome?

        5. Bekah

          What if Mike joes Danny in the backseat of Ultra-Car? Does that count as a foursome?

  2. Gnoka

    Well, Sarah seems to like him. At least, not hate him.

    1. David Herbert

      (Crack pairing mode) THIS OBVIOUSLY MEANS THEY WILL MAKE BABIES!

      With his penis. In her FAAACE!

      1. |Agent

        He’ll have trouble if he tries to make babies in her FAAAACE — even a nickel won’t help.

        1. CWR

          We should all have such “trouble”.

        2. Jackson

          That is so not babies.

      2. Plasma Mongoose

        CRACK BABIES????

      3. madd

        Ummm … that’s not how exactly how you make babies …

        is it?

    2. Zem

      Oh god, college mom Sarah. Why is it that I could see that storyline kinda working.

      Rather, the college mum thing would be a good excuse to bring back Mary. Though he’s one of the characters we really do not want to see at this point, probably. DoA has been comfortably more drama free than Roomies!

  3. Janette

    Sarah=me

    Way more then it should.

    DAMMIT WILLIS. I don’t need to be reminded of myself in a comic.

    1. Zem

      But then you’re getting free avatars. That’s kind of cool.

  4. kagato23

    Yep. Sarah/Danny X OTP confirmed for personal fanon.

    And canon. WHY CAN’T ALL OF YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    1. MM

      Because he’s talking about how he believes in justice?

      …Aaaand I’m not going to take that observation any further. Not as long as I still have this avatar, anyway.

    2. Lady Ray

      NO SARAH BELONGS WITH BILLIE.

      They hate each other because it’s actually LOVEE!

  5. Tristan J

    In before long-winded posts explaining to fictional character how she’s wrong about everything.

    1. Bekah

      They’ve been getting longer and longer haven’t they?

    2. NF

      At least I still believe in justice!

      1. Plasma Mongoose

        Rge only character I know who can go on about JUSTICE without feeling silly afterwards is Princess Amelia from Slayers.

        1. Bekah

          What about Ninja Rick and his burning justice?

        2. Plasma Mongoose

          You mean like how he never resheaths his ‘sword’ until it has tasted blood?

        3. Bekah

          After it tasted Faz’s ‘blood’, no wonder his justice burns.

          *shudders*

        4. Random Webcomics Junkie

          Thanks for sharing that delightful thought with the rest of us.

          *brainbleach*

        5. Henry

          Faz is a xenomorph? That explains a lot, actually…

  6. gangler

    Lol. God I love Sarah.

  7. Dahlia

    Sarahs got a point, Danno.

    1. Jackson

      I like it when we, the audience, call him Danno and address him directly. I’m not sure why.

      1. Dahlia

        It amuses me! 😀

  8. Plasma Mongoose

    I think that in her own way, she is trying to convince him to stay as distant from this issue as much as possible, otherwise he could end up as bitter as she was about her former room-mate.

  9. Undrave

    Doesn’t she want to be a lawyer? Is she going to be one of those crooked lawyer who will do everything to win?

    Oh my god… Danny is Phoenix Wright and Sarah will be his Edgeworth! LE GASP!

    Someone whip up a fanart of Danny going “OBJECTION!!”, quick!

    Nice friendship they’re developping there.

    1. taekwondogirl

      I don’t see how she’s “doing everything to win” so much as distancing herself from problems which she considers the right thing to do. There’s a difference.

      1. Undrave

        She mocks him for believing in Justice.

        1. taekwondogirl

          Cynacism is not the same as moral corruption.

  10. gangler

    “At least I still believe in Justice!”

    I’m not even entirely sure I believed in Justice as a child lol. Why the still? It kind of implies that belief in justice is the natural state and one must fall from it in order to not believe. Is that the assumption?

    I mean, I can recall a time when I believed that fairies hid in airborne dust particles, gnomes lived in trees, and monsters would materialize from the walls if I opened my eyes after dark. I can’t quite recall a time when I believed in Justice though…

    It’s funny because Dan has an overly pleasant worldview that gets harshly damaged by the slightest wrongs lol 😀

    1. coobee

      You never believed that your mother/father/whoever didn’t care about ‘who started it’? Or said that a sibling/classmate being given something you weren’t was ‘unfair’? Or hit someone back if they didn’t claim ‘no backsies’?

      Can’t say I had any understanding of justice in her more abstract forms, but those were causes I could believe in as a child.

      1. coobee

        … and my avatar makes me look so cross. Sorry!

      2. gangler

        Certainly not in the sense you’re saying. I mean, I acknowledge that there was a concept of justice. Not like I would ever claim the idea didn’t exist.

        Did I think that it was concept upon which the world ran? Well no. My parents might not have cared who started it, but that doesn’t mean they’re always gonna punish appropriately or according to this whole Justice thing. Maybe an attempt would be made, but if someone’s “gonna tell on you” and they’re lying through their teeth, I wasn’t gonna just sit their with an absolute faith that my mom would utilize her mystical lasso of truth to get the full story. Often she’d leave it at home. She didn’t always have the thing on her person for every petty squabble.

        Did I believe that my father would always use his always see when I was in trouble or was being treated unjustly? Well no. Sometimes there’s lead in the walls and then he can’t see anything. I just plain didn’t have this weird faith in the overall goodness of the universe or unquestioning belief in my parents that your talking about. We live in a flawed universe. My parents are only human. They can’t hear me from saturn when I’m exploring lead sewerpipes.

        1. Heather

          Death: Humans need fantasy to *be* human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape.

          Susan: With tooth fairies? Hogfathers?

          Death: Yes. As practice, you have to start out learning to believe the little lies.

          Susan: So we can believe the big ones?

          Death: Yes. Justice, mercy, duty. That sort of thing.

          Susan: They’re not the same at all.

          Death: You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged.

          Susan: But people have got to believe that, or what’s the point?

          Death: You need to believe in things that aren’t true. How else can they become?

          -Hogfather, Terry Pratchett

    2. Zem

      You should always be vary around people who TRULY believe in justice. This usually leads to self-righteousness. I’ve known a few girls like that.

      1. taekwondogirl

        If they *truly* believe in it then they understand it’s not their place to mete it.

  11. Madock345

    Everything awsome from literature sounds stupid when you say it out loud, thats why they have to change most of the lines when they make movies.

  12. Ridureyu

    Danny is channeling Amelia from Slayers.

    1. lord of dance

      hes not standing on a high enough platform

      1. Silver C.

        And it’s not Amelia if he doesn’t jump and land on his face after doing the justice speech.

        Unless he’s channeling Prince Philonel.

        1. Silver C.

          On an added note: I love my icon here *squeezes Mike pic*

    2. ryan

      note to self: next time i see willis at a con, request a sketch of danny dressed as amelia.

  13. Robert

    Damn right it sounds stupid when someone says it out loud. just watch brave and the bold.

  14. goatman95111

    But doesn’t Sarah remember? It’s not justice, not vengeance…It’s PUNISHMENT!

    1. Random Webcomics Junkie

      It’s true, many people who can’t get behind the idea of justice are very willing to provide punishment. Because punishment can be fun.

  15. Tumbleweed

    y’know, Danny might be a square, but he is totally still one of my favorites, just because.

    1. agentksilver

      Joyce’s pose with that comment makes it extra adorable.

  16. Daelin

    I think I’d really enjoy more Danny and Sarah strips.

  17. Plasma Mongoose

    JUUUUUUUUSTICCCCCCCCE!

  18. Bunk

    Justice… in the FAAAAAAAAACE.

  19. Kelsey

    Surprisingly good advice….And then she comes back to reality.

  20. Ristar

    Sarah: No danny don’t do it for justice. Do it *Rips off shirt* FOR PATRIOTISM

    1. Ristar

      Wait…sarah is Regan in disguise right?

      1. NerdAtComputer

        That would explain why I feel so attracted to her.
        She is Regan in disguise… and everyone is gay for Regan.
        (except Ethan, I’m pretty sure he is straight here)

      2. zuche

        I’m surprised anyone remembers Nova Scotia’s premier from the late 1970s.

  21. NerdAtComputer

    Don’t worry Danny, I also believe in Spider-Car, ally of justice anywhere!
    (who also happens to be Dan’s love interest, Amber…. maybe Willies is tries to indicate that Danny also has a crush on her secret identity, Spider-Car?)

  22. Luke

    God, Sarah just does NOT want me to like her.

    1. agentksilver

      Sarah just wants me to like her even more!

      1. gangler

        I’m hogging all the Sarah liking to myself 😛

  23. kater

    Sarah, there is nothing stupid about Justice!

    Justice is Awesome.

    I want to start a bowling team called the Justice League. Yes we would wear costumes.

    1. gangler

      But the Justice league doesn’t really believe in Justice either. If they did they wouldn’t have to dedicate their lives to enforcing it. Their very presence is evidence that Justice was not being done in the DC universe, and in fact almost all of their origin stories center around a grave injustice they experienced.

      Sure, superman may live his life in pursuit of Justice, but even he’s not gonna pretend that the death of his planet was in any way fair, or that it will all be equaled out. That brainiac will get what he deserves or any such nonsense. He pursues Justice because he doesn’t have it.

      Even the greatest paragons of Justice are not so naive as to actually believe in it. It’s an ideal that one may seek, not a force that one can believe in. Similar to charity. To live charitably is noble. To believe in charity, well that’s just foolish and naive. There’s a huge distinction between the two.

      1. Chester Sellars

        The problem is they do believe in it– stupidly. It’s what causes the tension between Batman and Superman. Batman knows there is no justice but what he enforces. Superman believes justice exists naturally, and he is a manifestation of that justice.

        1. gangler

          Is that a fact? I’ll admit I’m not as familiar with Superman as I could be. I mostly just pick up an issue once in a while when I see something’s going on with Luthor.

          I didn’t really think he was prone to expect it from others though. So like, if Superman was powerless due to Red sun radiation he genuinely believes that the people of earth would rise to protect him in his time of need? Because that’s actually interesting. Kind of sheds a different light on his character.

      2. taekwondogirl

        Believing in justice is different from believing that it exists. The persuit of justice is to bring it where there is none and it usually results from having experienced injustices ones’ self.

  24. Seraph

    I reiterate my desire from yesterday that something – wonderful, horrible, I don’t care – happen to Sarah to shake her conviction that she knows everything at age 20. Granted, she seems to be in a permanent defensive posture against that sort of thing, but that’s all the more reason she needs it.

    1. gangler

      I don’t think we’ve seen anything to indicate that she thinks she knows everything. She certainly seems opinionated, and has perhaps a bleaker worldview than you feel is proper, but where are we seeing knowitallism?

      1. Seraph

        In her confidence that everyone will share her bleak worldview when they wise up.

        1. gangler

          The same confidence shared by everyone with a positive worldview?

          Everyone naturally assumes their worldview is correct. That’s in its’ very nature. If I believe the world is a bleak place, then it only follows that anyone else with the eyes to see would also gaze upon a bleak world.

        2. Seraph

          And college is where you go to encounter new worldviews and have that confidence challenged. Joyce and Danny are on one end of the spectrum, both needing some realism injected into their romanticism. Sarah is on the other end, needing something to pierce her battle-armored cynicism.

          She never grew or changed that much in the prime reality, probably because the wackier characters were more interesting. This is another chance for her, and I’d like to see what happens if her character actually gets some development.

        3. gangler

          Interesting concept. So basically it’s not that you want her proven wrong or taken off her high horse so much as you would like to see her undergo some character development in college. You feel that she could benefit from much of what college has to offer in experiences beyond simple education, and think that she’s robbing herself of this by alienating her peers and being as reclusive as she is if I’m getting this right. If not I apologize for putting words in your mouth.

          Fair enough. I can get behind that. As much as I’m generally opposed to the notion that everyone needs to be a social butterfly and become part of the awesome friends circle, I do feel that one should never shut oneself out to new information. Sarah really is doing that to herself a little, and in doing so she does deny herself the opportunity to expand her worldview.

          The idea is really not to “Change” or shatter ones worldview, but just to improve it. Upgrade it that it might function and serve one even better in the future. Fair enough. I agree, and once again apologize if I’m misreading your post.

        4. Seraph

          Now you’ve got it. I’d be just as happy to see her end up Daisy’s girlfriend as to see her brought down a peg, perhaps moreso.

          (Daisy seems a better match than the rest of the characters, who are mostly a bunch of clueless, drama-ridden frosh. Have we met any male characters of equivalent maturity yet?)

        5. gangler

          Let’s see. Ethan, Danny, Joe, Mike, and Walky seems to be the male cast. No, I’m not really seeing any of that work.

          I mean, she and Danny seem like they’d get along well, and have that basic chemistry, but I’m pretty sure Dan’s own issues would doom any relationship he entered. Maturity wise none of them are really there yet either.

          Assuming sexuality is being factored in, the only other female I can even think of who’s on that level would be Leslie, which probably won’t happen for obvious reasons.

          Aside from that? I guess Dorothy has her act together pretty nicely. She seems emotionally healthy and has a pretty clear picture of what it is she’s doing in life. Oddly enough I keep waiting for her to somehow get sucked into someone else’s dramacube accidentally.

          Yeah, Daisy could work just fine. Would be fun to see. Funny how it is when you actually try and tally how many characters here are properly functional. Pretty sure there’s just the three outside of Sarah. Plus we haven’t seen more than a couple conversations with Daisy and we’ve only seen Leslie on the job, so there might not even be that. At the very least, Daisy seems like the only real candidate right now.

        6. Seraph

          Dorothy worries me, too, actually. She seems to take that acceptance from Yale pretty much for granted, and she doesn’t seem to have a Plan B. She better hope her Plan A works out better than Dorothy Prime’s.

        7. gangler

          It never even occurred to me how odd it was that she takes it for granted that way. I mean, I plan on going to a particular university, but it’s only not a source of worry because I’m quite faithful that given enough time I can get into a university and that’s all that’s really important. If there’s one thing I have as a youth, it’s time. Also I have three plans for if that doesn’t work out.

          If she has a backup plan she certainly hasn’t mentioned it, though backup plans aren’t generally relevant conversationally until you get there. She certainly seems dead set on this particular university, which from what I understand is actually pretty high end. Not everyone can pull off yale.

          Do we know if her plan requires Yale in particular? Would a lesser degree not cut it? If all she’s gonna have to do is swallow her pride and give up some bragging rights I’m not to worried, but otherwise this does have potential for disaster. Especially since from a narrative angle she’s probably not leaving this college ever.

        8. Bekah

          Gangler and Seraph/
          sittin’ in a tree/
          F
          U
          C
          K
          I
          N
          G

          That’s right.

          I ship you two.

        9. Random Webcomics Junkie

          Perfect av for that comment. I applaud you, Bekah, and ship you in.

  25. MacaroniPterodactyl

    Hey Danny, is it BURNING justice?

    (cuz they have a cream for that now)

  26. Master Long

    My cat has no sense of justice.

  27. agentksilver

    You know what…I ship Danny/Joyce now.

  28. agentksilver

    Also yay character development for one of my two favorite characters.

  29. Swissaboo

    Misanthropy is nothing to be proud of sarah.

    1. Seraph

      Seconded.

    2. gangler

      Sure it is. Beats the alternative lol. Generalized trust? Expecting basic decency from your fellow man? Yeah, that totally sounds like it would lead to good things.

      While I’m at it, might as well extend that trust to some rabid wolverines. They really just wanna help XD

      1. Seraph

        …you know there are other options, right?

        1. gangler

          I kid I kid. As much as Misanthropy is the better of two extremes, as with many things it’s probably best to hang out somewhere in the middle and maintain a flexibility for change depending on the situation. Don’t have to trust every bloke you come across, but you don’t have to go shutting any doors either.

        2. zuche

          You know misanthropy comes in an assortment of styles, some of them fairly benign, yes? Sarah cares about people as individuals despite reservations about leaving herself open to the stupid things they do. The only time she’s been indicated to take an active hand in preventing other people’s stupidity is when it’s been to her detriment, as with the former roommate.

          It takes her awhile to trust, with good reason. It doesn’t take much for her to care. What remains to be seen is what it takes to get her involved, which may surprise her more than it will the readers.

  30. Shift

    I can sorta understand where Sarah is coming form. After all, who WANTS to deal with stupid people and their shit all the time? But at the same time, ignoring a problem isn’t going to make it go away. There are times where you need to confront the jerks and stand up for yourself.

    Of course, I’m not sure this is one of those times. The video doesn’t exactly affect Danny. He’s not on the video (as far as I know), and if it becomes a hassle rooming with Joe because of the video, he can ask for a room change. Joe should be the one pissed off and doing something about this, but if he’s okay with it, then Danny doesn’t have much reason to get involved.

    1. Eri

      Well, yeah, but Joe is his friend! Danny wouldn’t ask to change rooms and even when your friends tell you they don’t care, you still get upset if something bad happens to them.

      1. Shift

        Very true, but at the moment, Joe doesn’t seem to think this is bad. In fact, he seems a bit pleased by it. Danny isn’t so much concerned about how this is going to affect his friend, but how its going to affect both his friend and himself. And if Danny finds himself being directly targeted by the fallout of the video, he’s got every right to take some kind of action. But right now this is technically between Roz and Joe and it might help the situation if Danny doesn’t stir up more drama.

  31. SolegitRR

    I’m sensing some serious bro-love on Danny’s part. I mean that’s kind of a deep bond…but how deep?

    1. gangler

      About eight inches deep if you catch my drift 😉

  32. Anime fan

    Yes, yes it does.

  33. Reiku189

    Ya know….Sarah has Cree’s (numbah 5’s sister) voice when I think about it.

  34. Osa

    Thats it. Sara is my favorite character. Too much of what she says and does hits home far too often.

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