Provided you both wear the same size clothes, yes. Otherwise it is left to accessories and jewelry.
Tbh, I think some of that comes from hand-me-downs or having jewelry that the kids could trade wearing (since kid sized). As I was the youngest child (and a skinny bean growing up), I would always get the hand-me-downs from my sister. I still sometimes do. The problem arose when I could fit it before she grew out of it and we both liked it.
Being in a dorm with international students who would have to “downsize” their wardrobe before going back home was nice too. So many nice free shirts at the end of the year that they would dump in a cardboard box labeled “free”.
In ten years when something else is being protested irl people reading the comic for the first time will find it more useful as fictionalized. That and Willis wrote this like a year ago so how could he know what was appropriate or not to say about Gaza now?
mindbleach
If Murphy’s law for writing ten years ahead is that peace breaks out in the middle east…
The fictional country of Bulmeria has existed in-comic since the days of Roomies! so I don’t know why you think it’s a Gaza reference. Without word from Willis himself, I’ve always assumed it was a generic African country. (since that’s where most missionaries go)
Besides Jocelyn stating that their University invests in military contractors who’re fueling the genocide, the fact that it’s taking place in Dunn Meadow of all places references the very real Pro-Palestine protests at IU which happened just last year
Yumi
It does have parallels to Gaza, but it’s not the 1:1 reference you seem to be arguing. As for it taking place in Dunn Meadow… that’s where these things happen. You can find articles from the 90s about people gathering there to protest the Gulf War. (Gets a mention here, for instance: https://archive.is/8RtMi )
Tan
It would be nice if US weapons being used for genocide/atrocities in other countries was a one-off situation that specifically referred to a particular example rather than an evergreen general concept, but that’s not the timeline we live in.
Tan
(nicer still if it was just an unimaginable piece of fiction, of course)
BorkBorkBork
Bulmeria is eternal. Bulmeria is a stand-in for all of the stupid wars, atrocities, and injustices which are tolerated or ignored by the country perpetrating them, simply because it is far away, and those people do not look like me, and I have enough going on without worrying about something I can’t cortrol.
In 30,000 years, when space archeologists uncover a remarkably well-preserved anthology of Dumbing of Age within clay jars in caves along the Dead Sea, they will marvel at the word of Willis and his prophecies. “Bulmeria! Is this not a stand-in for the Florxians of Rigel 7, and how the Todad are occupying them?” “No, the neckless father Saint Becky is an allegory for the todads; the Bulmerian Prophecy refers to the conquest of the Blojokats.”
jflb96
In 30 000 years the Dead Sea will be under three miles of hive city
Michael Steamweed
A religion based on all of the holey scriptchers of dumbing of age, its walky, and shortpacked, would be a convoluted thing indeed. True, the ethics and morality are pretty cut-and-dried, but the dogmatic disagreements would lead to several major schisms.
thejeff
The originalist sect that held to young Willis’s morality from the early Roomies! would have a lot of conflicts with everyone else.
Dana W
Its the “I don’t want the forum to disintegrate into factional screaming” country I’m guessing.
Charles Phipps
The problem was I didn’t automatically assume Jocelyn was talking about Gaza. I was confused by the Eastern European name and was wondering why Jocelyn was protesting sending weapons to Ukraine.
Yumi
So then the problem was assuming it was a specific real world place
Bulmeria has been a stand-in for a lot of countries in Willis comics over the years, some real and some fictional. I agree with you that it’s probably a stand-in for Gaza this time.
Oh I like the colour. I’m just mad they’re calling it green. It’s not. It’s not even a little. Aqua, okay, I’ll live with calling that a green. Turquoise is not green and I’m salty about it.
(Yes I read the other comments below saying it’s vegan and plant based. Calling it green is still stupid and looking at specifically colour products used as colourant and seeing “green” is still gonna make me salty because STOP LYING TO ME. xD )
HueSatLight
Green as in plant based and vegan. not a great name choice for finger nail polish. Not quite as bad as Petchow brand rat poison, though.
I used to work in an Amazon fulfillment center and I remember my initial confusion when trying to find a Green toy truck because the only one in the bin was blue, only to realize that was the name of the brand.
VicMortimer
But turquoise IS green. It’s just also blue.
BorkBorkBork
I’m of the opinion that turquoise is neither green nor blue, in the same way that gray is neither black nor white, or orange is neither red nor yellow. It is turquoise.
It is also a gem, in the same way that orange is a fruit and periwinkle is a flower and salmon is a fish and green is people.
Michael Steamweed
Marketing is one of the stupidest forces in capitalism. 🙁
that it is, and that stupidity is a direct result of the very premise that makes capitalism capitalism:
that products and services are developed not directly for usability, but first and foremost for profit; under capitalism, goods and services are only made for use indirectly in theory, however as we’ve seen then and now, this is HARDLY always the way it turns out in practice :/
thejeff
“under capitalism”?
This is hardly original to capitalism. Unless capitalism covers most of written history.
hunter-gatherer societies were/are those in which products and processes were developed primarily for use, even with intention to barter, as before the invention of money it was not nearly as common on account of the need for double coincidence of wants, at a time when human populations were not nearly as large as they were today
the widespread practice of production oriented primarily for profit was a result of the introduction of stores of universally accepted value to use in future trade (money), specifically emergent desire to acquire massive surpluses of value to acquire ownership of capital
no less than socialism and capitalism, hunter-gatherer and traditional economies of eras past are still economies, even though the latter two are not oriented towards growth and development (in traditional economies such as that in Medieval Europe, even with the invention of money, prices for commodities were not set by their producers but fixed via legal fiat)
thejeff
HG societies don’t fall under written history, so you’re basically agreeing there.
“traditional economy” seems a very broad term covering a huge variety of systems – everything between hunter-gatherers and whenever we say capitalism starts.
Prices being set by legal fiat doesn’t mean people don’t do things for profit. There’s also a lot of room I think between “primarily for use” and “primarily for profit”. The staggering amount of wealth held by the upper classes in antiquity and medieval periods seems to belie a “primarily for use”. The elites were acquiring massive surpluses of value even in those traditional economies of the past, even if the peasants weren’t far from subsistence agriculture.
There are, in fact, many red polishes in the Green™ range! Which is so named because it’s vegan, largely plant-based, and allegedly better for people and the environment than other polishes.
(I have no idea whether any of that holds water, but it doesn’t bother me that it’s using a different sense of “green” than the color.)
They’re still gonna be using acetone and the thing is acetone is produced by animals including humans so you can say its totes organic and natural but that still doesn’t actually make it good for you xD
VicMortimer
Well of course acetone is organic. There’s carbon in it.
Tan
According to their website: “Can be removed at home, without acetone, by rubbing “
I get ya, I really do, even if ‘green’ turns out to be a brand name. When the ‘rainbow’ spectrum of colours were quantified and named, the one after (lime) green was called “blue” but actually it was cyan/turquoise, call it what you will, and the next one (Indigo) was what we now call blue. People draw it as purple, but violet is the purple one. But then they are drawing with pigment, not light. So when people get in an argument about where green stops and blue begins, just direct them to cyan/turquoise/aqua. Then they can argue where green or blue ends and cyan begins!
Why if I really get specific with my favorite color, I say crayola crayon cerulean, as it can vary in what it looks like depending on who is defining it. Copper solutions (like copper sulfate or copper chloride) can sometimes be the color I am looking for too, though that can vary in its color.
It is, turns out, but it’s still just … I’m looking at a blue, the biggest word and the only specifically colour word on the label is GREEN in all caps. I’m looking at a red, and the biggest word and the only specifically colour word on the label is GREEN in all caps.
STOP LYING TO ME
that’s all I’m saying. stoppit. i hate it. xD
Nymph
This comment looks like it should be a poem. It isn’t, but it could be with a little polish.
I have seen greenish turquoise, but that turquoise is not green. Their azure also isn’t very azure (saphir).
I knew someone who thought that school buses and lines on the road were orange instead of yellow.
I mean, there is a reason why we call things blue-green or red-orange. Sometimes it is more one than another but othertimes it is basically halfway in between and is neither. It would be like asking if something is blue or yellow when it is green.
I’ve long since lost any ability to care about color names in the business world since they obviously don’t make any sense. My theory is that most color names today are the result of somebody drinking too much absinthe. Just give me the HLS coord.s please.
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Ana Chronistic
Flurple! Only unicorns can see it.
Wizard
You’re not missing much, it’s not a very pretty color.
Kazuma Taichi
well that’s cute
NGPZ
Riviera?
Oh! So it matches her eyes!
Cute! (^-^)
Dean
It’s actually the same shade as Geraldo Rivera’s moustache!
Needfuldoer
There was actually a lifetime supply of it in Al Capone’s vault, but he didn’t want to share so it was hidden from the cameras.
Nono
You’re nailing it, Joyce.
Charles Phipps
She did break into a house with her sister!
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Borrow her clothes without permission?
That’s something sisters do, right?
Opus the Poet
According to my wife they do, yes.
Kimi
Provided you both wear the same size clothes, yes. Otherwise it is left to accessories and jewelry.
Tbh, I think some of that comes from hand-me-downs or having jewelry that the kids could trade wearing (since kid sized). As I was the youngest child (and a skinny bean growing up), I would always get the hand-me-downs from my sister. I still sometimes do. The problem arose when I could fit it before she grew out of it and we both liked it.
Being in a dorm with international students who would have to “downsize” their wardrobe before going back home was nice too. So many nice free shirts at the end of the year that they would dump in a cardboard box labeled “free”.
eh, whatever
Yes.
Segnosaur
Problem with borrowing clothes is that Joyce has to worry about her jugs.
You know, the milk-jug shoes that Carla designed for the shower.
Charles Phipps
I hope we get the Bulmeria plot and it’s a deep one.
Because politics in the RL have been absolute crap.
NGPZ
Bulmeria is a stand-in for Gaza and corresponding student protests just so you know
Which is why I also kinda resent how those are being covered up by that pseudonym if I’m being honest
Dana
In ten years when something else is being protested irl people reading the comic for the first time will find it more useful as fictionalized. That and Willis wrote this like a year ago so how could he know what was appropriate or not to say about Gaza now?
mindbleach
If Murphy’s law for writing ten years ahead is that peace breaks out in the middle east…
Charles Phipps
Bulmeria was also Russia when Alex became Snowden.
It’s also a couple of other places.
Here, it’s a stand in for Gaza but we don’t know how that will end.
Cholma
The fictional country of Bulmeria has existed in-comic since the days of Roomies! so I don’t know why you think it’s a Gaza reference. Without word from Willis himself, I’ve always assumed it was a generic African country. (since that’s where most missionaries go)
Nymph
Thisthisthisssss.
NGPZ
true what you said about the role it’s played in the past but,
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/book-15/02-the-one-where-jocelyne-returns/carve/
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2024/comic/book-15/02-the-one-where-jocelyne-returns/divest/
Besides Jocelyn stating that their University invests in military contractors who’re fueling the genocide, the fact that it’s taking place in Dunn Meadow of all places references the very real Pro-Palestine protests at IU which happened just last year
Yumi
It does have parallels to Gaza, but it’s not the 1:1 reference you seem to be arguing. As for it taking place in Dunn Meadow… that’s where these things happen. You can find articles from the 90s about people gathering there to protest the Gulf War. (Gets a mention here, for instance: https://archive.is/8RtMi )
Tan
It would be nice if US weapons being used for genocide/atrocities in other countries was a one-off situation that specifically referred to a particular example rather than an evergreen general concept, but that’s not the timeline we live in.
Tan
(nicer still if it was just an unimaginable piece of fiction, of course)
BorkBorkBork
Bulmeria is eternal. Bulmeria is a stand-in for all of the stupid wars, atrocities, and injustices which are tolerated or ignored by the country perpetrating them, simply because it is far away, and those people do not look like me, and I have enough going on without worrying about something I can’t cortrol.
In 30,000 years, when space archeologists uncover a remarkably well-preserved anthology of Dumbing of Age within clay jars in caves along the Dead Sea, they will marvel at the word of Willis and his prophecies. “Bulmeria! Is this not a stand-in for the Florxians of Rigel 7, and how the Todad are occupying them?” “No, the neckless father Saint Becky is an allegory for the todads; the Bulmerian Prophecy refers to the conquest of the Blojokats.”
jflb96
In 30 000 years the Dead Sea will be under three miles of hive city
Michael Steamweed
A religion based on all of the holey scriptchers of dumbing of age, its walky, and shortpacked, would be a convoluted thing indeed. True, the ethics and morality are pretty cut-and-dried, but the dogmatic disagreements would lead to several major schisms.
thejeff
The originalist sect that held to young Willis’s morality from the early Roomies! would have a lot of conflicts with everyone else.
Dana W
Its the “I don’t want the forum to disintegrate into factional screaming” country I’m guessing.
Charles Phipps
The problem was I didn’t automatically assume Jocelyn was talking about Gaza. I was confused by the Eastern European name and was wondering why Jocelyn was protesting sending weapons to Ukraine.
Yumi
So then the problem was assuming it was a specific real world place
Kyulen
Bulmeria has been a stand-in for a lot of countries in Willis comics over the years, some real and some fictional. I agree with you that it’s probably a stand-in for Gaza this time.
Nymph
I also hope the Bulmeria plot line ends up being really deep and interesting. Anxious about what the comment section will do, but interested still.
Kyulen
Sadly IRL politics have been absolute crap for a lot of people for a very long time, not just recently. And I’d rather not elaborate on that.
Dara
RIVIERA – Green(tm) – “Turquoise Blue” is not fucken GREEN, mates
what other colours do you have in your GREEN. any REDS? any REDS in your GREEN range?
i hate branding so much xD
Amós Batista
It’s a brightful color. As Joyce tends to wear light color clothes, her eyes and nails are the only things with strong color.
Dara
Oh I like the colour. I’m just mad they’re calling it green. It’s not. It’s not even a little. Aqua, okay, I’ll live with calling that a green. Turquoise is not green and I’m salty about it.
Dana
Looks like they do have reds in their Green range. https://us.manucurist.com/products/indian-summer
Dara
YAY everything is stupid! xD
(Yes I read the other comments below saying it’s vegan and plant based. Calling it green is still stupid and looking at specifically colour products used as colourant and seeing “green” is still gonna make me salty because STOP LYING TO ME. xD )
HueSatLight
Green as in plant based and vegan. not a great name choice for finger nail polish. Not quite as bad as Petchow brand rat poison, though.
Dara
are you making that up
oh okay it’s a comedy skit that’s fine xD
neeks
I used to work in an Amazon fulfillment center and I remember my initial confusion when trying to find a Green toy truck because the only one in the bin was blue, only to realize that was the name of the brand.
VicMortimer
But turquoise IS green. It’s just also blue.
BorkBorkBork
I’m of the opinion that turquoise is neither green nor blue, in the same way that gray is neither black nor white, or orange is neither red nor yellow. It is turquoise.
It is also a gem, in the same way that orange is a fruit and periwinkle is a flower and salmon is a fish and green is people.
Michael Steamweed
Marketing is one of the stupidest forces in capitalism. 🙁
NGPZ
that it is, and that stupidity is a direct result of the very premise that makes capitalism capitalism:
that products and services are developed not directly for usability, but first and foremost for profit; under capitalism, goods and services are only made for use indirectly in theory, however as we’ve seen then and now, this is HARDLY always the way it turns out in practice :/
thejeff
“under capitalism”?
This is hardly original to capitalism. Unless capitalism covers most of written history.
NGPZ
um, no?
hunter-gatherer societies were/are those in which products and processes were developed primarily for use, even with intention to barter, as before the invention of money it was not nearly as common on account of the need for double coincidence of wants, at a time when human populations were not nearly as large as they were today
the widespread practice of production oriented primarily for profit was a result of the introduction of stores of universally accepted value to use in future trade (money), specifically emergent desire to acquire massive surpluses of value to acquire ownership of capital
NGPZ
no less than socialism and capitalism, hunter-gatherer and traditional economies of eras past are still economies, even though the latter two are not oriented towards growth and development (in traditional economies such as that in Medieval Europe, even with the invention of money, prices for commodities were not set by their producers but fixed via legal fiat)
thejeff
HG societies don’t fall under written history, so you’re basically agreeing there.
“traditional economy” seems a very broad term covering a huge variety of systems – everything between hunter-gatherers and whenever we say capitalism starts.
Prices being set by legal fiat doesn’t mean people don’t do things for profit. There’s also a lot of room I think between “primarily for use” and “primarily for profit”. The staggering amount of wealth held by the upper classes in antiquity and medieval periods seems to belie a “primarily for use”. The elites were acquiring massive surpluses of value even in those traditional economies of the past, even if the peasants weren’t far from subsistence agriculture.
Doxkid
Turquoise is a green and I will die on this hill.
Stevonnie
There are, in fact, many red polishes in the Green™ range! Which is so named because it’s vegan, largely plant-based, and allegedly better for people and the environment than other polishes.
(I have no idea whether any of that holds water, but it doesn’t bother me that it’s using a different sense of “green” than the color.)
Dara
They’re still gonna be using acetone and the thing is acetone is produced by animals including humans so you can say its totes organic and natural but that still doesn’t actually make it good for you xD
VicMortimer
Well of course acetone is organic. There’s carbon in it.
Tan
According to their website: “Can be removed at home, without acetone, by rubbing “
Proxiehunter
Wonder if it contains as much plastic as vegan plant based alternatives to leather do.
Thing2
I get ya, I really do, even if ‘green’ turns out to be a brand name. When the ‘rainbow’ spectrum of colours were quantified and named, the one after (lime) green was called “blue” but actually it was cyan/turquoise, call it what you will, and the next one (Indigo) was what we now call blue. People draw it as purple, but violet is the purple one. But then they are drawing with pigment, not light. So when people get in an argument about where green stops and blue begins, just direct them to cyan/turquoise/aqua. Then they can argue where green or blue ends and cyan begins!
Kimi
Why if I really get specific with my favorite color, I say crayola crayon cerulean, as it can vary in what it looks like depending on who is defining it. Copper solutions (like copper sulfate or copper chloride) can sometimes be the color I am looking for too, though that can vary in its color.
Dara
It is, turns out, but it’s still just … I’m looking at a blue, the biggest word and the only specifically colour word on the label is GREEN in all caps. I’m looking at a red, and the biggest word and the only specifically colour word on the label is GREEN in all caps.
STOP LYING TO ME
that’s all I’m saying. stoppit. i hate it. xD
Nymph
This comment looks like it should be a poem. It isn’t, but it could be with a little polish.
Kimi
I have seen greenish turquoise, but that turquoise is not green. Their azure also isn’t very azure (saphir).
I knew someone who thought that school buses and lines on the road were orange instead of yellow.
Max
You might like the site:
ismy.blue
I learned that I’m 83% green.That means I see more green than blue. So I might see Riviera as green.
Michael Steamweed
I had not known of that website. Turns out I’m at 80%. Turquoise is def blue. Thanks!
Kimi
Your screen color settings could affect that.
eh, whatever
It’s neither green nor blue. It’s in between. It’s turquoise.
Mark
Grue. Or maybe bleen.
Michael Steamweed
No, not the Grue! :O
*promptly gets eaten
Proxiehunter
Should have carried a flashlight.
Michael Steamweed
Dang! I always forget that!
Kimi
I mean, there is a reason why we call things blue-green or red-orange. Sometimes it is more one than another but othertimes it is basically halfway in between and is neither. It would be like asking if something is blue or yellow when it is green.
Mark
I’ve long since lost any ability to care about color names in the business world since they obviously don’t make any sense. My theory is that most color names today are the result of somebody drinking too much absinthe. Just give me the HLS coord.s please.
HueSatLight
Ah Absinthe, the Sea Foam fairy.
Riviera (sample from screenshot):
Hue: 187
Sat: 48.7%
Lightness: 61%
Leadsynth
Sometimes what looks blue in the bottle turns out looking a lot more green when it’s on human-colored nails. It’s happened to me!
Suet