I’d definitely say there is new ground to be explored with these two if it comes to that, but also I’ve learned not to jump the gun on assuming Jacob is being set up for a relationship with [x] character.
Honestly not sure if this relationship was really explored that much. It was near the end of the comic and more in the background then the forefront. Plus both Lucy and Jacob are VERY different then how they were in shortpacked. Lucy didn’t really have an extreme doormat there and Jacob doesn’t have any addictions here.
Well I just went back to check tags and I think Jacob and Lucy had a nice friendship at least. I had forgotten that Lucy and Ryu Ken had gotten together.
They had a nice friendship but it was really not explored very much. They only appeared in what, a couple dozen strips together at most, and most of those were pretty gag-heavy. They only had a couple meaningful conversations, focused almost exclusively around the lack of representation in the comics industry. There’s hardly any ground between them *to* rehash and I think what we’ve seen between them here isn’t even doing that
Ever wish you could delete your own comment because you didn’t fact check
Schpoonman
There’s a number of features of social media/forums that this place lacks and sometimes I wish they were here and other times I appreciate they do not.
It is a great pun on the two of them having “natural chemistry.” Technically, organic chemistry deals with any compound with hydron carbon and/or carbon-carbon bonds even synthetic ones, but punmenship takes priority in my books.
it’s a play on words, though not actually a pun, about how they are both embodied in organic form, and Jacob is experiencing shifts in his bodily and mental chemistry which he was not expecting.
plus he has a new friend now, and she seems fren-shaped
oh, and Organic Chemistry is the branch of chemistry dealing with molecules that contain at least one carbon atom. Inorganic Chemistry is the branch dealing with molecules that contain no (0) such atoms. This may seem imbalanced, and it is; there are FAR more carbon-containing molecules than all the rest put together. It is also a class taken in sophomore or junior year in college, a lot of the time by pre-meds.
this has been a –Dave Mansplains Minute
eh, whatever
There are a few carbon-containing molecules that count as inorganic, e.g. all the carbon oxides.
More importantly, she learned something about herself coming off that relationship.
Odo
Ehhh the whole “I need more self-respect” response is kind of a cop-out of self-reflection. It is like saying “My only fault was that I didn’t think I’m great enough”.
People should love themselves, but Lucy is missing most of her own failures in that relationship.
– Unrealistic expectations for pace/intimacy. You can’t start off in “I will marry you” from day 1.
– Not listening to Walky but instead projecting her own fantasies
MadScientist520
I’m just annoyed how fast she just fizzled out on Walky. It just seems an unhealthy jump to the opposite extreme.
Taffy
She liked the chase more than she liked the catch, I suppose.
Jon
I agree broadly that it’s an overused trope, but in this specific case Lucy absolutely DID need to get more self-respect. She allowed Wally’s garbage parents to drag her down and beg for their approval, and she followed Wally around like a lovesick puppy for months just *hoping* he’d ask her out.
Lucy’s lack of self respect damaged the chances of their relationship, in addition to the two other failings you listed (and which I could make a strong argument are also symptoms of low self respect).
I think she earnestly wants to feel comfortable being alone. She’s been alone and lonely before. If she’s taking time to think about how things should have gone differently with Walky, then all the better.
It’s hard to read Jacob’s face here, because the one eyebrow effect isn’t working for him in this strip (sorry), but I think he’s intrigued. I think he’s trying to make friends as much as find a romantic partner.
I said before they’d make a nice couple, but I’m rethinking that. Lucy’s still generally horny. Jacob would be like 1000 times more likely than Walky to just tell her he wants to take it slow, and that might be a deal breaker for her.
Seconded, I’m a bit impressed with Lucy’s fast growth here. I’m not sure if she’s intentionally poking Sarah or genuinely trying to win her over by sheer stubborness.
And if she’s genuine about needing time to be her own friend, more props to her
Lucy did make a point of saying she’s going alone; he probably took that as a setup to ask to join her. That she declined his offer probably isn’t what he was expecting. Given how uncomfortable he is with being objectified, I reckon he finds it refreshing to talk to someone who isn’t embarrassingly thirsty for him (at least not outwardly). It was a peculiar interaction, but not a negative one.
Hmmmmm, on the surface a true statement, but one wonders if she actually believes it or is trying to make herself believe it. One must also wonder if this is somewhat a learned pattern from her roommate.
Yeah, it’s not something you just suddenly change overnight, well usually. So it’s probably to reinforce it in her mind because she wants to be the kind of person able to do things on her own.
It’s a good start for personal growth.
Devin
Fake it ’til you make it is a solid strategy for personal growth
I mean, once she got that hit of reality, she must have said to herself “alright, we’ll use option two.”
And that option is to imitate Jennifer, because it seems that she is still on a pedestal.
And if it doesn’t work either……Raidah could be option three (Yes, many have already differed on that, but we are talking about Lucy and her innocent way of taking as an example…..certain people)
It is healthy to know how to do things by yourself, and yes that means trying out new things and that can be a bit scary, but once you’ve figured out how to have fun alone you will have a much easier time convincing friends to join you. Because you can make plans without making others feel pressured, and your plans won’t depend on others, so you will be executing more of your plans. This makes you more relaxed and it means you have more interesting stories to tell, simply because you’re doing more stuff. It also helps you figure out what it is you really like, which can be hard to figure out for a highly social person like Lucy, because she would normally adapt what she likes to the group.
188 thoughts on “Forbidden”
Ana Chronistic
I’d say rehashing old Shortpacked! ground, but I’d like to think Willis has some other twisty ideas in mind for us
Ana Chronistic
Sarah: *glares through binoculars from several blocks away*
Doctor_Who
Her last line is spoken through a megaphone.
R. Francis Smith
*phone rings*
*it’s Sarah*
Thag Simmons
I’d definitely say there is new ground to be explored with these two if it comes to that, but also I’ve learned not to jump the gun on assuming Jacob is being set up for a relationship with [x] character.
Hoboturtle
Honestly not sure if this relationship was really explored that much. It was near the end of the comic and more in the background then the forefront. Plus both Lucy and Jacob are VERY different then how they were in shortpacked. Lucy didn’t really have an extreme doormat there and Jacob doesn’t have any addictions here.
Rowen Morland
What did Lucy have in Short packed?
Jamie
She was the successor of the mantle of Amazi-Girl.
Rowen Morland
I’d honestly forgotten about that.
Mr D
Well I just went back to check tags and I think Jacob and Lucy had a nice friendship at least. I had forgotten that Lucy and
RyuKen had gotten together.TerribleTransit
They had a nice friendship but it was really not explored very much. They only appeared in what, a couple dozen strips together at most, and most of those were pretty gag-heavy. They only had a couple meaningful conversations, focused almost exclusively around the lack of representation in the comics industry. There’s hardly any ground between them *to* rehash and I think what we’ve seen between them here isn’t even doing that
Mr.Morningstar
….wait thats right they did date in shortpacked
I completely forgot about that
Mr.Morningstar
Ever wish you could delete your own comment because you didn’t fact check
Schpoonman
There’s a number of features of social media/forums that this place lacks and sometimes I wish they were here and other times I appreciate they do not.
Schpoonman
*are not.
See? An edit feature would be nice.
Animedingo
I didnt know they were both taking “Organic Chemistry”
Schpoonman
I’ve got absolutely nothing to top this, damn.
NGPZ
Pika? Organic chemistry? I don’t get it.
True Survivor
It is a great pun on the two of them having “natural chemistry.” Technically, organic chemistry deals with any compound with hydron carbon and/or carbon-carbon bonds even synthetic ones, but punmenship takes priority in my books.
NGPZ
Si, makes more sense if you a carbon-based lifeform i guess LOL
a/snow/mous/e
Well, now I have to wonder what elements your people are based on 😮
Jamie
I wonder if it’ll ever be a problem that people don’t know how to write “yes” properly in Spanish.
NGPZ
I have yet to set that up since I upgraded my OS earlier this year.
Taffy
Add the ‘ to everyone’s i key if it bugs you so much.
Bladeglory
When two people get along they’re said to have “chemistry” together. If it occurs upon first meeting then it’s natural or “organic.”
David DeLaney
it’s a play on words, though not actually a pun, about how they are both embodied in organic form, and Jacob is experiencing shifts in his bodily and mental chemistry which he was not expecting.
plus he has a new friend now, and she seems fren-shaped
oh, and Organic Chemistry is the branch of chemistry dealing with molecules that contain at least one carbon atom. Inorganic Chemistry is the branch dealing with molecules that contain no (0) such atoms. This may seem imbalanced, and it is; there are FAR more carbon-containing molecules than all the rest put together. It is also a class taken in sophomore or junior year in college, a lot of the time by pre-meds.
this has been a –Dave Mansplains Minute
eh, whatever
There are a few carbon-containing molecules that count as inorganic, e.g. all the carbon oxides.
SadnessWithASmile
Beautiful. I want you to know you’ve made the world a better place with that comment.
Kimi
Let’s hope that it ends better than taking actual organic chemistry.
Rowen Morland
If it wasn’t for carbon, Sarah wouldn’t date at all.
Vanessa
Well, well. Lucy is not interested in this gentleman. Perhaps she feels Sarah has dibs.
Tan
It could also be, and I’m just spitballing here, that she is barely 24 hours out of her previous relationship.
Taffy
That’s preposterous. They were in the same panel together, that means it’s destiny for them to fuck each other in the mouth.
clif
You make a good argument.
Pylgrim
More importantly, she learned something about herself coming off that relationship.
Odo
Ehhh the whole “I need more self-respect” response is kind of a cop-out of self-reflection. It is like saying “My only fault was that I didn’t think I’m great enough”.
People should love themselves, but Lucy is missing most of her own failures in that relationship.
– Unrealistic expectations for pace/intimacy. You can’t start off in “I will marry you” from day 1.
– Not listening to Walky but instead projecting her own fantasies
MadScientist520
I’m just annoyed how fast she just fizzled out on Walky. It just seems an unhealthy jump to the opposite extreme.
Taffy
She liked the chase more than she liked the catch, I suppose.
Jon
I agree broadly that it’s an overused trope, but in this specific case Lucy absolutely DID need to get more self-respect. She allowed Wally’s garbage parents to drag her down and beg for their approval, and she followed Wally around like a lovesick puppy for months just *hoping* he’d ask her out.
Lucy’s lack of self respect damaged the chances of their relationship, in addition to the two other failings you listed (and which I could make a strong argument are also symptoms of low self respect).
HueSatLight
I think she earnestly wants to feel comfortable being alone. She’s been alone and lonely before. If she’s taking time to think about how things should have gone differently with Walky, then all the better.
It’s hard to read Jacob’s face here, because the one eyebrow effect isn’t working for him in this strip (sorry), but I think he’s intrigued. I think he’s trying to make friends as much as find a romantic partner.
I said before they’d make a nice couple, but I’m rethinking that. Lucy’s still generally horny. Jacob would be like 1000 times more likely than Walky to just tell her he wants to take it slow, and that might be a deal breaker for her.
Samniel
Seconded, I’m a bit impressed with Lucy’s fast growth here. I’m not sure if she’s intentionally poking Sarah or genuinely trying to win her over by sheer stubborness.
And if she’s genuine about needing time to be her own friend, more props to her
Aslan
Lucy did make a point of saying she’s going alone; he probably took that as a setup to ask to join her. That she declined his offer probably isn’t what he was expecting. Given how uncomfortable he is with being objectified, I reckon he finds it refreshing to talk to someone who isn’t embarrassingly thirsty for him (at least not outwardly). It was a peculiar interaction, but not a negative one.
Grimey
That first panel reminds me of pre-Toedad Joyce for some reason. You guys see it right?
Dara
…not until you said it but then I absolutely did. Yeah. Joyce has a very similar expression and I can see it but not where it was.
DailyBrad
It isn’t just you. Lucy, on meeting Joyce, accidentally made Joyce think she was mocking her because the two just had that much in common.
They’ve moved apart, but there is serious overlap.
Schpoonman
This makes that Linda is a racist shit all the more damning. She would love Joyce.
StClair
Yes, but not Black
DebbieJoyce.StClair
also, Joyce as Walky’s girlfriend? that’s just weird, man.
Grimey
Can you imagine?
Plonker
Ewww. Serious ick!
zee
Oh would ya look at that, it’s the reason I heavily side eye Lucy’s most dedicated haters!
Schpoonman
Every so often one of them blows a dogwhistle SUPER hard and it’s really awkward.
Taffy
And just like that, he’s shot down forever, with no hope of further connection.
HueSatLight
The rest of this whole chapter is going to be Jacob striking out.
egg egg
That would be so funny, not gonna lie.
Devin
Hmmmmm, on the surface a true statement, but one wonders if she actually believes it or is trying to make herself believe it. One must also wonder if this is somewhat a learned pattern from her roommate.
Does more than one wonder this?
NGPZ
Which statement exactly?
Devin
“I’m going by myself and that’s fine, actually.”
Shade
Yeah, it’s not something you just suddenly change overnight, well usually. So it’s probably to reinforce it in her mind because she wants to be the kind of person able to do things on her own.
It’s a good start for personal growth.
Devin
Fake it ’til you make it is a solid strategy for personal growth
Masumi
It feels like she’s trying to prove a point. Mayhaps making an effort to leave behind her old ways of acting desperate for friends?
Coatl
I don’t know, but from the way she is expressing herself, it seems that she is reinforcing that way of looking for friends.
Devin
Yeah, it just reads to me as trying to make that point to herself more than anyone else.
Coatl
Could be.
I mean, once she got that hit of reality, she must have said to herself “alright, we’ll use option two.”
And that option is to imitate Jennifer, because it seems that she is still on a pedestal.
And if it doesn’t work either……Raidah could be option three (Yes, many have already differed on that, but we are talking about Lucy and her innocent way of taking as an example…..certain people)
Regret
It is healthy to know how to do things by yourself, and yes that means trying out new things and that can be a bit scary, but once you’ve figured out how to have fun alone you will have a much easier time convincing friends to join you. Because you can make plans without making others feel pressured, and your plans won’t depend on others, so you will be executing more of your plans. This makes you more relaxed and it means you have more interesting stories to tell, simply because you’re doing more stuff. It also helps you figure out what it is you really like, which can be hard to figure out for a highly social person like Lucy, because she would normally adapt what she likes to the group.
Anon A Mouse
The first part of making something true is convincing yourself. Even if she doesn’t believe it right now she is taking steps to make it real.
Mark
This one wonders also.
DailyBrad
I love the implication that Sarah just couldn’t actually continue running, she is unable to excise herself from this conversation.
Also, I like Jacob. Just, general observation.
David DeLaney
headcanon: Lucy has verbal tentacles, the better to beFriend you with
–Dave, things are getting more Juicy
HueSatLight
out of breath, and she keeps using it up by yelling.
Mturtle7