…Do Lucy and Billie have easily-confused voices? I mean, this is as confusing as when Billie managed to scream “RUTH LESSICK IS A WHORE” without Ruth knowing exactly who it was. I’ve been puzzled about that since that strip’s run.
As someone who’s HoH, if I can’t tell who said something I certainly wouldn’t’ve been able to tell what they said. One kind of comes before the other, ya know? Especially how I rely on lipreading when someone doesn’t know ASL.
Unless their voices really are that similar. But then her hearing wouldn’t come into it, would it? But if not then… Now I’m confusing myself.
Or maybe she doesn’t see the toothbrush and thinks Billie is signing something? Wrong? Smoking pipe? Drinking alcohol? Oops? Ah, whatever, I’m over-complicating it. I get the joke and I’m ruining it. 😛
I hope this comic doesn’t mess up on ASL. It’s easy to, as many don’t realize it’s not at all like English, and unlike a regular typo you can’t fix it as easily.
Uh, I mean… no pressure?
I’ve noticed a couple odd choices Willis made, but nothing I’d consider “wrong”. If he wants, he could maybe ask someone for advice on specific phrases in the comments? Then again, that might be slight spoilers. But with the buffer, we’d all forget by then, wouldn’t we?
I mean seeing as she’s managed to confuse the voices of two people of whom one very clearly has a toothbrush in their mouth and is thus incapable of clear speech I’d have to question just how good her hearing is.
CoMa
True. Maybe her ears are blinded by her idealisation of Billie? Can ears be blinded?
It’s playing off the fact that everyone in this dorm automatically treats Billie as a hero (and probably treats Lucy as inconsequential), so when someone says something nice, it gets attributed to Billie regardless.
So does that mean he also is a brilliant engineer, or is that different too and he’s a walking techbane?
King Daniel
Engineers hate him!!
College kid discovers this one weird trick that will RUIN TECHNOLOGY
Slartibeast Button, BIA
You need bogon sources around you, otherwise you only produce stuff that will never be usable in the real world.
Cathy Garrett
So, you’re a Tinker Gnome from WoW?
ǝ snow ʍousɐ
AmaziGirl’s archenemy, Luddite Man
Needfuldoer
If he’s in a STEM field, maybe he’s on the programming side, or maybe a genius technical writer like Caroline Rose. (I wouldn’t trust an engineer to write end-user documentation; it will be technically correct, but incomprehensible to the average user.)
If he’s the bane of all technology, he’s probably strong in a creative design field. (Assuming Forest Quad is equal-but-opposite of Read Hall.)
Oookay i shoulda been specific, but that’s really on me I see where the confusion was there. I got that Zaph was a trans dude I just don’t get whats goin on in that last interacton with Lucy, Rose and Billie
In the second to last panel Lucy said something nice while rose was turned away. She turned around to see Lucy and Billie there, and despite Billy having her mouth full with a toothbrush, assumed that Billie was the one making the comment.
Lucy’s frown in the last panel, combined with the growing disillusionment from the previous strip is likely making her less than happy with Billie. Bill is oblivious, and likely uncaring about the whole thing.
Lucy apparently is the Rodney Dangerfield of her floor: she gets no respect. And this seems to have been true even before Billie descended from the heavens to walk among her floor-mates. Now, her best hope at minimal acknowledgment is to point out to her floor-mates, at every opportunity, that she alone is the roommate of the radiant, numinous, and benevolent Head Cheerleader of the Golden Dragons.
He was Rose’s boyfriend in the Walkyverse, being the happy-opposite of Faz (Rose being the opposite of Amber). Later they found out that they were siblings, around the same time that Amber found out Faz was her half-brother.
*Rose and Zaph, half-siblings. Also, both of them were themselves half-siblings to Amber (and Faz).
Blaine had a lot of descendants.
HeySo
Which means, going off Willis’ previous comment, we’ve no idea what their genealogical status is this time around.
Though, frankly, I’m still trying to figure out where Faz came from in DoA, given that he appears to not be related to either Blaine or Stacy/Amber. Adding more mysterious not-siblings to DoA just leaves us with even more questions. 😛
Daibhid C
The moment someone thought “Man, it would be terrible if there was a Faz in the Dumbiverse”, he appeared in Blaine’s spare room, full-formed and every bit as terrible as we expected.
I believe Willis hinted on his Twitter account that Blaine’s mafia-backstory may be kept (responding to a TVTropes note that said essentially, “Blaine’s mafia past from Shortpacked! seems to be excised” by saying something along the lines of, <b"who says it's excised?"), so…shrug?
King Daniel
Dangit, messed up the formatting. And I was so careful…time for bed I think.
I wouldn’t say ‘every other family situation has been maintained’ – Joyce has a (slightly) smaller family, Sal and Beef weren’t switched at birth, Carla has a completely different set of parents (being contemporary to her parents’ equivalents), Faz’s relationship to the O’Malleys is known and way less complicated…
geno
It’s really bizarre that Carla is basically going to college with her alt universe parents. I wonder what she would say if she found that out
Spelling words with your body gives you superpowers?
Makkabee
Does that make The Village People our world’s Justice League? Have they been saving the world from supervillains, aliens, and sentient robots in epic battles that we’ve rationalized as disco concerts with elaborate pyrotechnics?
Luzahn
Aw man, we Galaxy Quest’d it, didn’t we.
Needfuldoer
There’s no need to feel down.
timemonkey
Pick yourself off the ground.
HeySo
Wouldn’t it be Reverse-Galaxy-Quest’d it? 🙂
Kryss LaBryn
Well, it does explain the costumes…
3-I
I think El Goonish Shive ran with that concept once.
247 thoughts on “Zaph”
CandidCanid
…Do Lucy and Billie have easily-confused voices? I mean, this is as confusing as when Billie managed to scream “RUTH LESSICK IS A WHORE” without Ruth knowing exactly who it was. I’ve been puzzled about that since that strip’s run.
Doctor_Who
What’s so confusing about it? She was off-panel, Ruth couldn’t see who the speech bubble was coming from.
motorfirebox
*Rose
ǝ snow ʍousɐ
maybe that’s the joke?
Kernanator
They’re both voiced by Hynden Walch
Dean
Everyone in this form is voiced by Mark Hamill.
HeySo
Everyone.
Everyone except for Mark Hamill, who is voiced by Danny Devito.
eruditeCaptain
Yes, indeed. Everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-VHe_4GmE
Djaevlenselv
Let me guess. She’s using Starfire voice for Lucy and Darkfire voice for Billie? Or is it the other way around, just to be unpredictable?
Passchendaele
ehhhh I think she knew, based on the “‘random’ drug searches” comment.
Streeter
As someone who’s HoH, if I can’t tell who said something I certainly wouldn’t’ve been able to tell what they said. One kind of comes before the other, ya know? Especially how I rely on lipreading when someone doesn’t know ASL.
Unless their voices really are that similar. But then her hearing wouldn’t come into it, would it? But if not then… Now I’m confusing myself.
Or maybe she doesn’t see the toothbrush and thinks Billie is signing something? Wrong? Smoking pipe? Drinking alcohol? Oops? Ah, whatever, I’m over-complicating it. I get the joke and I’m ruining it. 😛
I hope this comic doesn’t mess up on ASL. It’s easy to, as many don’t realize it’s not at all like English, and unlike a regular typo you can’t fix it as easily.
Uh, I mean… no pressure?
I’ve noticed a couple odd choices Willis made, but nothing I’d consider “wrong”. If he wants, he could maybe ask someone for advice on specific phrases in the comments? Then again, that might be slight spoilers. But with the buffer, we’d all forget by then, wouldn’t we?
CoMa
I got the impression it was Beatrice who was the one to mainly use ASL/lip reading, not Rose (well, with Nash) – http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/salacious/
So I believe Rose is hearing fine (at least with what we’ve seen of her in-comic)
Emily
I mean seeing as she’s managed to confuse the voices of two people of whom one very clearly has a toothbrush in their mouth and is thus incapable of clear speech I’d have to question just how good her hearing is.
CoMa
True. Maybe her ears are blinded by her idealisation of Billie? Can ears be blinded?
Tom T.
It’s playing off the fact that everyone in this dorm automatically treats Billie as a hero (and probably treats Lucy as inconsequential), so when someone says something nice, it gets attributed to Billie regardless.
Rowen Morland
Which page was that?
Ana Chronistic
DAMN, Rose! wtf
I’m beginning to think McAwesome’s Dormitory and Bounce Castle isn’t so great
Ana Chronistic
(I mean panel 5, to be clear)
jothki
It’s basically a manifestation of everything that Billie thought that college was going to be like when she first arrived.
Woobie
Buh wha?
Maveric1984
Relevant Gravitar is relevant
Doctor_Who
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
…I mean, Billie, Billie, Billie!
BBCC
Hey, this isn’t Marcie’s fault!
Doctor_Who
Sure it is! She secretly taught Billie sign language off panel, which is clearly how Billie responded without Lucy hearing her.
BBCC
Look, it’s not Marcie’s fault her lessons for Malaya were so popular. Sue a girl for making friends!
Jed!
Incidentally, glad to know I’m not the only one who likes to walk around while brushing their teeth. It’s just too boring otherwise.
Egg
That’s what books are for!
Charlie Spencer
Books in the evening when flossing and brushing.
Pick out clothes in the morning.
Roger
Ok I’m lost
Doctor_Who
The showers are that-a-way. Just follow Zaph.
Luzahn
I’m assuming Zaph is trans; using the right showers would be good for the mood.
tim gueguen
Presumably Zaph is this dorm’s reverse analog of Carla.
Doctor_Who
So does that mean he also is a brilliant engineer, or is that different too and he’s a walking techbane?
King Daniel
Engineers hate him!!
College kid discovers this one weird trick that will RUIN TECHNOLOGY
Slartibeast Button, BIA
You need bogon sources around you, otherwise you only produce stuff that will never be usable in the real world.
Cathy Garrett
So, you’re a Tinker Gnome from WoW?
ǝ snow ʍousɐ
AmaziGirl’s archenemy, Luddite Man
Needfuldoer
If he’s in a STEM field, maybe he’s on the programming side, or maybe a genius technical writer like Caroline Rose. (I wouldn’t trust an engineer to write end-user documentation; it will be technically correct, but incomprehensible to the average user.)
If he’s the bane of all technology, he’s probably strong in a creative design field. (Assuming Forest Quad is equal-but-opposite of Read Hall.)
DSL
“End-user documentation.” Is that what they’re calling “instruction manuals” these days?
Needfuldoer
See, that’s exactly what I’m talking about! The techs’ writings shouldn’t go out to the world before a good technical writer fixes it.
Roger
Oookay i shoulda been specific, but that’s really on me I see where the confusion was there. I got that Zaph was a trans dude I just don’t get whats goin on in that last interacton with Lucy, Rose and Billie
Yumi
I thought this was a really funny thread because I correctly interpreted your comment and then the replies were weird.
Anyway, my interpretation of it is that Lucy is being hyperbolically overshawdowed by Billie in the eyes of her floormates.
Kyrinthic
In the second to last panel Lucy said something nice while rose was turned away. She turned around to see Lucy and Billie there, and despite Billy having her mouth full with a toothbrush, assumed that Billie was the one making the comment.
Lucy’s frown in the last panel, combined with the growing disillusionment from the previous strip is likely making her less than happy with Billie. Bill is oblivious, and likely uncaring about the whole thing.
Marsh Maryrose
Lucy apparently is the Rodney Dangerfield of her floor: she gets no respect. And this seems to have been true even before Billie descended from the heavens to walk among her floor-mates. Now, her best hope at minimal acknowledgment is to point out to her floor-mates, at every opportunity, that she alone is the roommate of the radiant, numinous, and benevolent Head Cheerleader of the Golden Dragons.
Keulen
I forget if Zaph is a character from the Walkyverse or if he’s completely new.
King Daniel
He was Rose’s boyfriend in the Walkyverse, being the happy-opposite of Faz (Rose being the opposite of Amber). Later they found out that they were siblings, around the same time that Amber found out Faz was her half-brother.
King Daniel
*Rose and Zaph, half-siblings. Also, both of them were themselves half-siblings to Amber (and Faz).
Blaine had a lot of descendants.
HeySo
Which means, going off Willis’ previous comment, we’ve no idea what their genealogical status is this time around.
Though, frankly, I’m still trying to figure out where Faz came from in DoA, given that he appears to not be related to either Blaine or Stacy/Amber. Adding more mysterious not-siblings to DoA just leaves us with even more questions. 😛
Daibhid C
The moment someone thought “Man, it would be terrible if there was a Faz in the Dumbiverse”, he appeared in Blaine’s spare room, full-formed and every bit as terrible as we expected.
Meta
He was Faz’s equivalent at McAwesome’s. Implied to also be one of Blaine’s kids IIRC.
Rosicrucian
Zaph is from McAwesome’s and is bizarro Faz.
Mr D
Taking in account that every other family situation has been mantained, does this mean that Rose and Zaph are also Blaine-spawn?
King Daniel
I believe Willis hinted on his Twitter account that Blaine’s mafia-backstory may be kept (responding to a TVTropes note that said essentially, “Blaine’s mafia past from Shortpacked! seems to be excised” by saying something along the lines of, <b"who says it's excised?"), so…shrug?
King Daniel
Dangit, messed up the formatting. And I was so careful…time for bed I think.
Miri
Dr Dick told Joe he was a mob stooge (and a literal evil human being): http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/disengage/
Kamino Neko
I wouldn’t say ‘every other family situation has been maintained’ – Joyce has a (slightly) smaller family, Sal and Beef weren’t switched at birth, Carla has a completely different set of parents (being contemporary to her parents’ equivalents), Faz’s relationship to the O’Malleys is known and way less complicated…
geno
It’s really bizarre that Carla is basically going to college with her alt universe parents. I wonder what she would say if she found that out
Needfuldoer
Amber is Blaine’s only biological child in DoA. Faz is his stepson, from his current wife’s previous marriage.
HeySo
Oh, Blaine remarried after Stacy? Okay, that explains that. I musta overlooked/forgotten that. 🙂
Plasma Mongoose
Getting the feeling that Lucy isn’t the most popular girl in this dorm.
Luzahn
I’m guessing this is just Billie’s inexplicable cheerleader aura at work. =P
Plasma Mongoose
Spelling words with your body gives you superpowers?
Makkabee
Does that make The Village People our world’s Justice League? Have they been saving the world from supervillains, aliens, and sentient robots in epic battles that we’ve rationalized as disco concerts with elaborate pyrotechnics?
Luzahn
Aw man, we Galaxy Quest’d it, didn’t we.
Needfuldoer
There’s no need to feel down.
timemonkey
Pick yourself off the ground.
HeySo
Wouldn’t it be Reverse-Galaxy-Quest’d it? 🙂
Kryss LaBryn
Well, it does explain the costumes…
3-I
I think El Goonish Shive ran with that concept once.
Shade
I’m getting the feeling she used to be. Before Billie showed up.
CoMa