Well AFAICR the book came out late-60s and the movie came out in 1977 the year after I graduated HS, and that was the kind of book you would never see in a school library when it came out. And still wouldn’t in TX or FL because sex.
Also is that Pedro from Boy’s Life magazine? I haven’t seen that magazine since the mid-1970s but that looks like their burro mascot.
i mean, as long as it’s not some specific open secret kinda message that’s unintentional like how flowers have all kinds of meaning (tho it would be hilariously petty to send someone a bouquet with a meaning of “you suck” XD)
(that said i wouldn’t be surrpised if sarah’s semi-stalked jacob to the point of her knowing what he likes or at least seen him eating the same thing at least one time)
Taffy
Are there bouquets that mean “you suck”? I want one 🙁
I clicked an hour ago and am just now reemerging, this is fascinating.
I think the main takeaway from this article is that the “language of flowers” is a Romantic/Victorian construct relying largely on Orientalist fantasies. Also, and that’s probably the point of the table, that there is no consistent key, with many flowers being assigned wildly different meanings.
It is true that “Carnation, yellow” seems to be unanimously read to mean “You Suck”, but that’s probably because the trendsetter, Charlotte de la Tour, made that decision, and later writers were happy to copy-paste
Mark
Well, that is how standards are created: someone decides “it’s this not that.” If accepted by others, then everybody is on the same page and thus communication is possible.
I do wish the Language of Flowers was better-standardized. There are times when I would like to really “say it with flowers”(tm) but it’s too easy to be catastrophically misunderstood.
Yeah, the author found no evidence of this so-called “language of flowers” being used as anything but a “parlour game” in Europe and the US. Teasingly, he only reports of the supposed turkish tradition through dubious orientalist sources that suggests not only flowers but a range of objects may have been used among literate harem women as mnemonics for conveying verses– not based on any allegorical meaning of the flowers and objects themselves but by associating verses rhyming with the object’s name in Turkish– to conduct covert lesbian affairs among themselves. Is this just more orientalist distortion? Quite possibly.
But it’s interesting that the more mainstream European interpretation was prompt to straightwash this report into imagining the women using flowers to convey messages to servant boys or serenading suitors they were trying to seduce.
thejeff
“Say it with flowers. Send a cactus.”
zee
I’m pretty sure if you give someone a bouquet of spider lilies that’s a death threat or something like it. At the very least saying you never wanna see them again
…Huh, I guess the kidnapping arc was pretty much the only major interaction between these two before now, wasn’t it? Hadn’t really thought about it before.
Even in the old continuity! Sarah was an early Roomies! character, Ethan debuted in Shortpacked! years after she last appeared. She briefly appeared in one panel in a series of vignettes during the Shortpacked! finale, but Ethan was in a different one so they wouldn’t have interacted.
I can imagine it being a cute secret coded message between friends/couples tho it would be awkward if it had a reverse effect like after a breakup everytime you see someone have like a snickers to be turned on XD
lol at least one candy bar would be fine. I can imagine some ppl being indecisive and buying one of those multipacks with diff small containers but in college i prolly wouldn’t have the impulse control to not eat all of it in one sitting unless ishared half with a roommate/friends
Almond Joy is about 75% coconut and 10% almond, anyway. (The balance is evenly split between “joy”, and whatever concoction passes for chocolate in mass-market candy these days.)
I mean, not everyone has access to whatever you count as real chocolate. Almond joys pretty damn good, but I more a Cadbury Cream Egg girl myself. :9
I also do like me some dark chocolate occasionally, I hear it’s supposed to be good for the brain, essential while coding all night.
David DeLaney
the subtext here almoat certainly being “Hershey’s chocolate is weak and in-feri-or” to things like Swiss chocolate (the nation is known for it continent-wide), actual dark chocolate, etc.
Haha I wonder what her plan was for conversation with Jacob, I doubt it has anything to do with that candy bar. Nice to see her trying to reach out, taking a risk.
114 thoughts on “Long time”
Ana Chronistic
“I’m paying him back… it’s a 100 Grand“
Dday
“Let him know he can come find me if he wants these Mounds.”
Decidedly Orthogonal
Oh I read it as a Crunch bar, because she want’s to scrunch him. But also fuck Nestlé.
Dara
Yeah, she’s probably given up on getting his Mr. Big.
Dday
Hey, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t.
Weatherheight
Come on – no Mr. Goodbar reference?
Apparently we’re all too far away from Junior high/middle school…
Mark
There is no such distance as “too far from Jr. High.”
Opus the Poet
Well AFAICR the book came out late-60s and the movie came out in 1977 the year after I graduated HS, and that was the kind of book you would never see in a school library when it came out. And still wouldn’t in TX or FL because sex.
Also is that Pedro from Boy’s Life magazine? I haven’t seen that magazine since the mid-1970s but that looks like their burro mascot.
ValdVin
Tell him I’m ready for that Marathon.
Disastroid
Hoping cupid shoots an Aero into his heart.
ValdVin
^This is a great start. But now, as an American, it’s only keened my appetite for more British candy puns.
Just_IDD
She’s trying to show him she’s not a Zero (yes that’s a candybar. Think snickers but instead almond and white fudge.)
Ana Chronistic
but inside he’s a Lion
ValdVin
Heehee. Now I realize you can start inventing Brit candy bar names and would totally fool me.
IntangibleMatter
Sarah, we’re all proud of you. We all know how big of a step this is.
We just all expected it to be a bit bigger, and a full size candy bar.
anon
lol a bouquet and a heartfelt card might be a bit too strong/much for sarah rn
tho wonder if asher’s in ethan’s bed still b/c awkward if so
Masumi
“Just me” sounds like that’s exactly where Asher is.
Mturtle7
Just wait until we find out it’s actually leftover candy bar from Halloween…
Thag Simmons
Hey, a step forward is a step forward no matter how small.
Needfuldoer
Not so small, that’s a full-size Almond Joy bar!
Jo_cubstar
She’s trying
Sirksome
Hey! You’re not you when you’re hungry! Sarah’s just saying she wants to know the real, not hungry, Jacob.
DailyBrad
His expression in the second to last panel is killing me even more than the candy bar. Even Ethan is kind of astonished at her social ineptitude.
Jeremiah
And Ethan knows Amber! And himself!
Jahu
“Long time no basement” HELLO?
Laura
Yeah, I’m not sure what that reference was, there.
Dante
The last time they talked to each other was probably when they were kidnapped together :’DD
HueSatLight
Blaine’s basement.
Needfuldoer
Blainesment.
Weatherheight
When I was in college, all the washers and dryers for clothes were in the basement of the dorm, which is where my mind went.
But the kidnapping thing also wrks…
Laura
Got it. Thanks for all the replies!
I was thinking maybe Ethan was referring to the workout room in the basement.
KM
I’m not sure, is he answering Sarah’s question on where Jacob is or what..
AbacusWizard
It’s something!
Coatl
Exactly, who would deny a candy bar?
Reltzik
Someone with chocolate allergies?
Coatl
and certain ingredients…..oops
ValdVin
The wrapper suggests Almond Joy to me.
Have we ever seen Jacob eat, or avoid, almonds?
Needfuldoer
He hasn’t shown an allergy to joy, so that part should be fine.
Reltzik
Sarah, on the other hand, has. So yeah, she should probably be giving this candy bar to Jacob.
Taffy
We haven’t seen Jacob eat anything at all. Him and food haven’t even been in the same strip before.
Needfuldoer
He fantasized about pizza that one time.
Tan
Jacob has eaten at least an apple.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/brb/
HueSatLight
On account of the vampirism.
anon
i mean, as long as it’s not some specific open secret kinda message that’s unintentional like how flowers have all kinds of meaning (tho it would be hilariously petty to send someone a bouquet with a meaning of “you suck” XD)
(that said i wouldn’t be surrpised if sarah’s semi-stalked jacob to the point of her knowing what he likes or at least seen him eating the same thing at least one time)
Taffy
Are there bouquets that mean “you suck”? I want one 🙁
HueSatLight
Table 2 https://www.rhs.org.uk/about-the-rhs/pdfs/publications/lindley-library-occasional-papers/volume-ten.pdf
check out Carnation, Yellow.
milu
I clicked an hour ago and am just now reemerging, this is fascinating.
I think the main takeaway from this article is that the “language of flowers” is a Romantic/Victorian construct relying largely on Orientalist fantasies. Also, and that’s probably the point of the table, that there is no consistent key, with many flowers being assigned wildly different meanings.
It is true that “Carnation, yellow” seems to be unanimously read to mean “You Suck”, but that’s probably because the trendsetter, Charlotte de la Tour, made that decision, and later writers were happy to copy-paste
Mark
Well, that is how standards are created: someone decides “it’s this not that.” If accepted by others, then everybody is on the same page and thus communication is possible.
I do wish the Language of Flowers was better-standardized. There are times when I would like to really “say it with flowers”(tm) but it’s too easy to be catastrophically misunderstood.
milu
Yeah, the author found no evidence of this so-called “language of flowers” being used as anything but a “parlour game” in Europe and the US. Teasingly, he only reports of the supposed turkish tradition through dubious orientalist sources that suggests not only flowers but a range of objects may have been used among literate harem women as mnemonics for conveying verses– not based on any allegorical meaning of the flowers and objects themselves but by associating verses rhyming with the object’s name in Turkish– to conduct covert lesbian affairs among themselves. Is this just more orientalist distortion? Quite possibly.
But it’s interesting that the more mainstream European interpretation was prompt to straightwash this report into imagining the women using flowers to convey messages to servant boys or serenading suitors they were trying to seduce.
thejeff
“Say it with flowers. Send a cactus.”
zee
I’m pretty sure if you give someone a bouquet of spider lilies that’s a death threat or something like it. At the very least saying you never wanna see them again
Jeremiah
The fact that is actually true is kind of sad.
RassilonTDavros
…Huh, I guess the kidnapping arc was pretty much the only major interaction between these two before now, wasn’t it? Hadn’t really thought about it before.
Needfuldoer
Even in the old continuity! Sarah was an early Roomies! character, Ethan debuted in Shortpacked! years after she last appeared. She briefly appeared in one panel in a series of vignettes during the Shortpacked! finale, but Ethan was in a different one so they wouldn’t have interacted.
https://www.shortpacked.com/comic/fault-2
Tan
Not the only, but the most recent. They had a number of interactions back when Joyce was dating Ethan.
Coatl
Well, that candy bar is of great value to Sarah, so, fine.
Pergola
She wanted to throw it at his head.
thejeff
So she’s serious about him then?
Reltzik
…. Candy.
Translation: “Can I has D?”
anon
I can imagine it being a cute secret coded message between friends/couples tho it would be awkward if it had a reverse effect like after a breakup everytime you see someone have like a snickers to be turned on XD
Marvelman
After how mean Sarah was to Lucy, it will be satisfying to see her eating humble pie.
NGPZ
Well, big for YOU.
But not everyone is trying to cut down on sugar intake Sarah. :p
anon
lol at least one candy bar would be fine. I can imagine some ppl being indecisive and buying one of those multipacks with diff small containers but in college i prolly wouldn’t have the impulse control to not eat all of it in one sitting unless ishared half with a roommate/friends
Needfuldoer
Almond Joy is about 75% coconut and 10% almond, anyway. (The balance is evenly split between “joy”, and whatever concoction passes for chocolate in mass-market candy these days.)
NGPZ
passes for chocolate?
I mean, not everyone has access to whatever you count as real chocolate. Almond joys pretty damn good, but I more a Cadbury Cream Egg girl myself. :9
I also do like me some dark chocolate occasionally, I hear it’s supposed to be good for the brain, essential while coding all night.
David DeLaney
the subtext here almoat certainly being “Hershey’s chocolate is weak and in-feri-or” to things like Swiss chocolate (the nation is known for it continent-wide), actual dark chocolate, etc.
Pocky
An attempt has been made
hopefully its not got anything in it he’s allergic to
Vanessa
Haha I wonder what her plan was for conversation with Jacob, I doubt it has anything to do with that candy bar. Nice to see her trying to reach out, taking a risk.
PedanticJerkass
Cue Jacob showing up arm-in-arm with Lucy in 5… 4… 3…
M!a
And laughing! About something that Sarah wouldn’t know or care anything about.
Amós Batista
Please, stop giving ideas to Devil.
Amós Batista