Lucy was horrible to live with because Malaya’s horrible. As characters, I prefer Malaya to Lucy, but in the situation…it’s not like Malaya even tried to make it work.
thejeff
She applied for a transfer on the first day, so yeah, no attempt.
HeySo
Malaya is disagreeable in many ways, but Lucy pretty clearly is the more problematic of the two as far as being a roommate goes. While everyone has different preferences, the *typical* considerations for a good roommate require the roommate to be clean, responsible, and to /leave you the hell alone when you want them to/. A respect for property and boundaries is a pretty core expectation to have of roommates.
Malaya may have an abrasive personality, but Lucy can’t manage to abide by one of the core expectations of being a roommate. That’s not necessarily to say Lucy is a worse roommate- choosing between “I don’t give an eff and I’m snarky as shit” and “I’m going to be rude to you but excuse it by veiling it in smiles” really is a matter of personal preference- but Lucy is the one who seems to be most intensely ignoring their obligations as a roommate.
In short, criticizing Malaya is fine, and there are circumstances where she can be considered a worse roommate than Lucy, but “Lucy was horrible to live with because Malaya’s horrible” is just nonsense. Lucy’d be horrible for a lot of people, and not just with intense personality types like Malaya and Billie.
HeySo
Besides, Malaya has a cute pet to distract you, which massively offsets her flaws (..right?).
Meanwhile, Lucy has nails-on-a-chalkboard-like morning screeching, which drags you painfully out of bed and fills you with murderous thoughts. Call Malaya what you will, but her description of Lucy as a “Devil” seems completely fair.
Malaya and her 80-grit personality, vs cinnamon roll and eternal ray of sunshine Lucy. Sounds like the setup for a sitcom to me!
GoldStarz
I mean, given how long the comic has been running, you could easily make a decade-long spin-off just about Malaya and Lucy’s time as roommates together…
Hey, if you can have ‘your own personal Jesus’, then you can have ‘your own personal Satan’. Malaya is, I’ll say it again, very happy with Sal as a roommate, who gives her her needed doses of hostility and abrasiveness. She has absolutely negative desire to return to the bland vanilla milquetoastness of Lucy.
Also worth considering that Malaya really just wants people she dislikes to leave her alone, and Lucy constantly tried to engage with Malaya despite Malaya’s clear signaling for her to fuck off.
Not saying Malaya ISN’T terrible—that’s kinda her thing—but I can understand why she’d be extra-Malaya about hating Lucy as a roommate.
As an Official Trans(tm) I can confirm that along with “high-powered rifle” and/or” fiddle contest”, running from gender is one of the top healthy responses.
(I personally went with “high stakes children’s card game over a bottomless abyss” but YMMV.)
Jimi
Gender-fluid person who ran away from gender roles checking in!
Schol-R-LEA
Well, at least I can take comfort in knowing I’m in good company.
Schpoonman
A fiddle contest against gender?
not someone else
Yes.
modulusshift
“The Devil Went Down to Georgia” style, I assume?
GoblinScribe
My Gender went down to Georgia
She was lookin’ for a pronoun to steal
I don’t so much run from gender as curl up in the fetal position and cry deeply while cursing the sadistic gods that gave me this eldritch abomination of a body.
. . .Well this is a strip. Not sure how much of Malaya’s dialog to take seriously or not and I laugh and emphasize with Walky wanting to run away here. Mostly because I know that I am not educated nor well spoken enough to talk about the more in-depth topics of gender without making a fool of myself.
Also Lucy continues to ba an absolute cinnamon role.
Walky’s met her like once. I think it’s fair to not want to dive into that topic with her.
Granted, he’s met Lucy like 2-3 times, but y’know, in comic time, that’s the basis for close friendships in some situations on this campus.
Tacos
It’s not so much the fact he’s running away from the topic that’s the problem. I get it. I really do. That topic can be something that some people wouldn’t be comfortable talking about. The problem is that he says it out loud that he’s running away. At least make some excuse to leave.
MatthewTheLucky
Walky didn’t say he was running, Lucy suggested it.
Careful Lucy, Walky may be oblivious but… oh who am I kidding, you basically have to kiss the boy to make him realize you are flirting. That or throw an action figure at his head, really speak to him on his own level.
I think what’s meant is that her body is what’s making the argument (to her) that she is a woman. Like, if Lucy’s “…Probably?” is taken as “You’re not sure?” then Malaya’s reply could be like, “Yeah, but then, look at me.”
Bodies =/= gender, so she may be in a period of questioning her gender identity vs biological sex… and then having societal norms imposed on her, assuming that she must accept she is a woman because of her body parts…
Malaya doesn’t seem like she’s questioning her gender identity. This seemed to me like her basically just going, “I’m too hot to be a man.”
Zero
That phrasing assumes that the person saying it (and possibly everybody else) is exclusively into women.
not someone else
Internalized Male Gaze is awkward sometimes.
Jo
i dunno. it seems like she is struggling with gender constructs as a whole, considering how she is treating walky
Thursday Violist
I read it as her not really caring about her own gender (“I don’t really care, but I look like a woman so might as well be one.”); and she was mocking Walky for being childish and un-manly (“You’re not a man, you’re just a child.”)
Jo
Many non-binary/agender folx have those feels about their genders though. And with regard to Walky, she made a comment about him being unmanly mostly based on his physical appearance, because she has 0 context to him acting childish other than one phrase – they met 30 seconds earlier. She is therefore judging him and later herself based on what society has taught her about the supposed gender binary and stereotypical physical gender appearances.
thejeff
This doesn’t read to me like struggling at all. Reads like very stereotypical takes on gender. She’s being sarcastic with the probably and using it to point out how attractive she is. While bashing Walky for not being manly enough.
Felian
And also it sounds like Malaya’s typical “eh, whatever“. i guess she’s just not bothered with it.
(which, as those of us with gender/body dysphoria know, is kind of a privilege)
Jo
hmm. i didn’t read the probably as sarcasm, but as confusion. sarcasm makes sense and changes the rest of the strip for me now and now i need to see where this goes next, but it will probably cut to another scene…
211 thoughts on “Overwhelmingly”
Yumi
Wow, Malaya. Wow. (Panel 1)
Stu
Well, she DID describe Lucy as being horrible to live with. But that’s because of personality friction more than anything else.
Yumi
Lucy was horrible to live with because Malaya’s horrible. As characters, I prefer Malaya to Lucy, but in the situation…it’s not like Malaya even tried to make it work.
thejeff
She applied for a transfer on the first day, so yeah, no attempt.
HeySo
Malaya is disagreeable in many ways, but Lucy pretty clearly is the more problematic of the two as far as being a roommate goes. While everyone has different preferences, the *typical* considerations for a good roommate require the roommate to be clean, responsible, and to /leave you the hell alone when you want them to/. A respect for property and boundaries is a pretty core expectation to have of roommates.
Malaya may have an abrasive personality, but Lucy can’t manage to abide by one of the core expectations of being a roommate. That’s not necessarily to say Lucy is a worse roommate- choosing between “I don’t give an eff and I’m snarky as shit” and “I’m going to be rude to you but excuse it by veiling it in smiles” really is a matter of personal preference- but Lucy is the one who seems to be most intensely ignoring their obligations as a roommate.
In short, criticizing Malaya is fine, and there are circumstances where she can be considered a worse roommate than Lucy, but “Lucy was horrible to live with because Malaya’s horrible” is just nonsense. Lucy’d be horrible for a lot of people, and not just with intense personality types like Malaya and Billie.
HeySo
Besides, Malaya has a cute pet to distract you, which massively offsets her flaws (..right?).
Meanwhile, Lucy has nails-on-a-chalkboard-like morning screeching, which drags you painfully out of bed and fills you with murderous thoughts. Call Malaya what you will, but her description of Lucy as a “Devil” seems completely fair.
Deadjolras
Please say “sike”.
Needfuldoer
Malaya and her 80-grit personality, vs cinnamon roll and eternal ray of sunshine Lucy. Sounds like the setup for a sitcom to me!
GoldStarz
I mean, given how long the comic has been running, you could easily make a decade-long spin-off just about Malaya and Lucy’s time as roommates together…
ValdVin
I wonder how many times she’s had that exchange with Lucy.
(And Lucy just lets it go, getting more points from me.)
Lokitsu
I don’t know if Lucy’s letting it go or just ignoring Malaya’s verbal abuse because she realizes that it drives Malaya insane.
ValdVin
Ooh, that too.
All-Purpose Guru
Pretty much can sum up Malaya’s personality as “shithead” so, not surprising.
Deanatay
Hey, if you can have ‘your own personal Jesus’, then you can have ‘your own personal Satan’. Malaya is, I’ll say it again, very happy with Sal as a roommate, who gives her her needed doses of hostility and abrasiveness. She has absolutely negative desire to return to the bland vanilla milquetoastness of Lucy.
GoblinScribe
Also worth considering that Malaya really just wants people she dislikes to leave her alone, and Lucy constantly tried to engage with Malaya despite Malaya’s clear signaling for her to fuck off.
Not saying Malaya ISN’T terrible—that’s kinda her thing—but I can understand why she’d be extra-Malaya about hating Lucy as a roommate.
tim gueguen
Walky should be good at running, since he often seems to be running away from things.
Bagge
Hard to run with your foot in your mouth
fire_daws
Walky never runs! Reginald the Duke of Thingley runs.
Deanatay
Indeed! Running is clearly not manly, which he overwhelmingly is.
Stephen Bierce
*plays Lenny Kravitz’ “Where Are We Running?” on the hacked Muzak*
Stephen Bierce
Ooh-wee ooh-wee ooh-wee…
lilyliv
While there may be no shame in running from gender, the repercussions on one’s mental health make it non-recommendable. XD
Yumi
Running from gender has been, like, the one good thing I’ve done for my mental health, so YMMV.
not someone else
As an Official Trans(tm) I can confirm that along with “high-powered rifle” and/or” fiddle contest”, running from gender is one of the top healthy responses.
(I personally went with “high stakes children’s card game over a bottomless abyss” but YMMV.)
Jimi
Gender-fluid person who ran away from gender roles checking in!
Schol-R-LEA
Well, at least I can take comfort in knowing I’m in good company.
Schpoonman
A fiddle contest against gender?
not someone else
Yes.
modulusshift
“The Devil Went Down to Georgia” style, I assume?
GoblinScribe
My Gender went down to Georgia
She was lookin’ for a pronoun to steal
Pablo360
I don’t run from gender because I have low stamina, I mostly just hide under a cardboard box like Solid Snape from the Harry Gear Solid games
Spaz
I’ve never really played MGS, but I think I would probably play a Solid Snape overhaul mod.
Gigafreak
Potions liquid tho
Charlie Spencer
I think that depends on whose gender you’re running from, someone else’s or your own.
maybeware
Gender is an endurance hunter. You can run but you have to keep running.
I gave up with running a while ago.
FinalOwen
I don’t so much run from gender as do one of those montages where someone gets a taxi, then goes to the airport, gets on a plane, etc.
chris2315
I don’t so much run from gender as curl up in the fetal position and cry deeply while cursing the sadistic gods that gave me this eldritch abomination of a body.
Deanatay
OoooOOOhhHH! Are there… tentacles??
Schol-R-LEA
I can’t speak for Chris2315, but in my case, tentacles would be an improvement.
chris2315
No, but there’s ass hair. Just… why?
William Leonard Reese Jr.
. . .Well this is a strip. Not sure how much of Malaya’s dialog to take seriously or not and I laugh and emphasize with Walky wanting to run away here. Mostly because I know that I am not educated nor well spoken enough to talk about the more in-depth topics of gender without making a fool of myself.
Also Lucy continues to ba an absolute cinnamon role.
Deanatay
…Those are definitely some words.
DSL
“Cinnamon role” was Barbara Bain’s old job on “Mission: Impossible.”
Tacos
Walky, you ain’t helping your case that you aren’t a child if you say out loud that you want to run away to avoid talking about gender.
Kyrik Michalowski
That has less to do with being a child and more to do with being a coward and/or ignoramus.
DailyBrad
Walky’s met her like once. I think it’s fair to not want to dive into that topic with her.
Granted, he’s met Lucy like 2-3 times, but y’know, in comic time, that’s the basis for close friendships in some situations on this campus.
Tacos
It’s not so much the fact he’s running away from the topic that’s the problem. I get it. I really do. That topic can be something that some people wouldn’t be comfortable talking about. The problem is that he says it out loud that he’s running away. At least make some excuse to leave.
MatthewTheLucky
Walky didn’t say he was running, Lucy suggested it.
Clif
OTOH Walky is smart enough to recognize danger.
Needfuldoer
Walky knows damn well when he’s out of his comfort zone.
(There’s non-stained clothes, few cartoons, and no Nachitos.)
Zero
Walky actually expressed confusion at the idea of running away from gender.
Spack
Fwooomph!
Kyrik Michalowski
Careful Lucy, Walky may be oblivious but… oh who am I kidding, you basically have to kiss the boy to make him realize you are flirting. That or throw an action figure at his head, really speak to him on his own level.
Plasma Mongoose
Did I accidentally assume everyone’s gender again?
Deanatay
Oh do NOT get me started
Dr. T
I’m confused. Malaya looks at her body and DOESN’T see a woman?
Yumi
I think what’s meant is that her body is what’s making the argument (to her) that she is a woman. Like, if Lucy’s “…Probably?” is taken as “You’re not sure?” then Malaya’s reply could be like, “Yeah, but then, look at me.”
Clif
That was my interpretation as well.
Clif
Now, explain the alt-text please.
Zero
If Lucy and Walky flee, he doesn’t have to continue writing the conversation.
Deanatay
Basically, the author wants to run away from this conversation, too. It can be a scary one, esp if this isn’t your generation.
Jo
Bodies =/= gender, so she may be in a period of questioning her gender identity vs biological sex… and then having societal norms imposed on her, assuming that she must accept she is a woman because of her body parts…
Tacos
Malaya doesn’t seem like she’s questioning her gender identity. This seemed to me like her basically just going, “I’m too hot to be a man.”
Zero
That phrasing assumes that the person saying it (and possibly everybody else) is exclusively into women.
not someone else
Internalized Male Gaze is awkward sometimes.
Jo
i dunno. it seems like she is struggling with gender constructs as a whole, considering how she is treating walky
Thursday Violist
I read it as her not really caring about her own gender (“I don’t really care, but I look like a woman so might as well be one.”); and she was mocking Walky for being childish and un-manly (“You’re not a man, you’re just a child.”)
Jo
Many non-binary/agender folx have those feels about their genders though. And with regard to Walky, she made a comment about him being unmanly mostly based on his physical appearance, because she has 0 context to him acting childish other than one phrase – they met 30 seconds earlier. She is therefore judging him and later herself based on what society has taught her about the supposed gender binary and stereotypical physical gender appearances.
thejeff
This doesn’t read to me like struggling at all. Reads like very stereotypical takes on gender. She’s being sarcastic with the probably and using it to point out how attractive she is. While bashing Walky for not being manly enough.
Felian
And also it sounds like Malaya’s typical “eh, whatever“. i guess she’s just not bothered with it.
(which, as those of us with gender/body dysphoria know, is kind of a privilege)
Jo
hmm. i didn’t read the probably as sarcasm, but as confusion. sarcasm makes sense and changes the rest of the strip for me now and now i need to see where this goes next, but it will probably cut to another scene…