But not before Joe finally get’s his threesome. With Danny. Then Joe realizes that by limiting his playing field to one team, he has been just limiting his own potential.
Then moments before Joe recreates the world into a sex orgy, Rachel stabs him twice. The 2nd time because Joe jokes that he thought he would be penetrating her during hate sex.
It’s a portmanteau of “clue” and “Ludo”, another board game with a movement mechanic similar to Clue. Americans didn’t know what it was, so Parker Brothers just shortened it to “Clue”.
Kinoko
^ This. Cluedo was the original.
Daibhid C
I think Americans call Ludo Parcheesi, but the portmanteau doesn’t work with that. Also, “Ludo” is basically just Latin for “a game”, and the original Indian version was something like Pachisi, so I guess that makes more sense…
a/snow mous/e
Parcheesi is also not a super popular game here in America. I mean, it’s one of those games I’ve definitely heard of but never played.
Ryek Hvek
“Parcheesi” was a trademarked name for a version of Pachisi, which a lot of Americans first got to know by way of the Parker Brothers version named Sorry! – Pachisi on a computer is a halfway decent timewaster (ahhh, those dialup internet days, killing time while a webpage loaded)
a/snow mous/e
It looks like Parcheesi was also a Parker Bros. game, and Sorry! is an adaptation of that. I always liked Sorry!… Sorrcheesi? Sorrcluesi?
Ryek Hvek
my Hoyle Board Games calls it Pachisi, with board colors reminiscent of Sorry!, and I always thought they were ducking trademarks more than any other reason for spelling it differently – I only wish Pachisi had something similar to the “move backwards” card in Sorry!, which could leapfrog you from the entry point to just before the home stretch
And since we dropped the “-do” in Cluedo, we moved it over to Where’s Wally and made it Where’s Waldo.
I don’t know what we’re doing with the “-ly.” It’s very powerful, as it can turn an adjective into an adverb, so perhaps we’re keeping it as a potential weapon.
I’ll give you a clue: in greek the game is called “the complainer”. So, no. Unless you’re literally three years old and it’s the first game you play, I guess.
Willinwoods
We call it “Fia med knuff,” roughly “Sophie with a bump.” Only time I’ve had any fun with it as an adult, was when it was incorporated into a game of Nomic.
Havtorn
I was always told Fia was from the latin “Fiat” which someone figured was latin for “walk on”. So the intent was to call it “Walk around and get bumped”.
Also remember it is a direct reflection on the beliefs and morality of the author
Cephalo the Pod
Issues?
Walky skipping classes and not getting help are “issues”.
Sarah’s fatalistic cynicism and loner tendencies are “issues”.
Telling a suicidal girl she is a lost cause who can never ever earn the trust of people around her is what I like to call “fucking despicable”.
Cephalo the Pod
Not to say I won’t dismiss her good deeds, like calling out Joe on his misogynistic behaviour, and I can synpathize with her general frustration regarding Ruth’s reinstatement as R.A., but let’s just say I’m still waiting for someone to blow up in her face regardin what she said to Ruth.
Spencer
She didn’t say she wanted Ruth to die. She told an abuser that her actions couldn’t be swept under the rug.
Jinxed44
She assigned someone the permanent role of abuser and told her that she would never ever be a better person for the rest of her life.
And that trying otherwise is a lie.
Spencer
If Ruth didn’t want to be assigned the role of abuser she probably shouldn’t have abused the people under her care.
Cephalo the Pod
Indeed, she didn’t say that she actually wanted Ruth to die.
She did say, to a girl fresh out of the hospital for having suicidal tendencies (which PROBABLY had something to do with thinking she could never be a good person), that she, indeed, was never going to be a good person.
Really, the best interpretation is that Ruth is really, really, really fucking stupid.
Cephalo the Pod
*Rachel.
Spencer
Or maybe she’s lashing out at the violent abusive authority figure who got away with everything.
Cephalo the Pod
What good will lashing out at Ruth do? Chloe (thanks to “Sir”) is responsible for putting Ruth back in power.
Spencer
She’s lashing out at Ruth because Ruth was the one who abused her charges and regardless of reasoning she got away with it.
If she didn’t want blowblack from that she shouldn’t have fucking done it.
thejeff
Yeah. I’ve got all the sympathy in the world for Ruth, but it’s easy to see Rachel’s point of view too. Abusive RA, abusive relationship, suffers no consequences from getting busted. Remember, Rachel knows nothing about Sir or why Chloe left her in charge. She’s harsh, but she doesn’t have our vantage point either. She’s got no reason to believe Ruth is actually trying to change. Why should she?
Spencer
I honestly don’t know how to feel about Ruth. There’s so much about her I hate, but I get where she comes from, but even that doesn’t excuse even a lick of what she’s done. I feel… “dirty” is way too strong a word but it bugs me when I catch myself sympathizing with her or wanting her and Billie to stay together. She’s pulled way too much shit and is only saved from Villain status by getting protagonist screen time.
Then again I like Amber a whole lot so I think I’m a hypocrite.
I wouldn’t call it hypocritical. Both Ruth and Amber are pretty complex to the point where it’s easy to be on the fence about either of them. The difference in their characterization (and the nature of their crappier moments) is enough to explain why you might fall on a different side of the fence for each.
I think that made me twitch a bit, but I tend to be optimistic that all people have some good deep down, and given the chance, it can be brought out and they can be healed of their pain. Granted by that logic, I should be forgiving of those that talk down those them, but my brain wires bullies differently, I guess. Eh, you’re always the hero of your own story, I suppose.
I think that’s an unfair description of what she said.
She argued that you can’t erase your past, and she’s right, you can’t. You can -learn- from it, but redemption in the sense of giving you a clean slate isn’t real.
If redemption is real, it’s in the sense of learning who you are and how to cope with that.
Countercounter point: Was she wrong? Abusers OFTEN use threat of suicide to get out of the consequences of their actions. The only reason you don’t like Rachel is because narrative has spent a lot of time building up Ruth and why she acts the way she does. Rachel has none of that “behind the scenes” that we have.
398 thoughts on “Motive”
Ana Chronistic
BUT HIS DO LIST
Ana Chronistic
BUTTERY MAILS
Thrabalen
Buttery males?
chris2315
Have you heard about that Ben Gazi guy everyone keeps talking about?
Needfuldoer
Is he the guy who runs the pizza place?
Delicious Taffy
No, that was fake news. There was never any stuffed crust at that establishment.
showler
I prefer to parse it “butt hurt males”. More correct to people’s actual complaints about Hillary.
Pylgrim
No, no, it goes “But his freedom of speech!!!!!!!!!”
Needfuldoer
Freeze peaches!
Emperor Daniel
Mystery solved!
AnvilPro
Good job Detective Joe, another case is in the books
Flakky
Sadly, it will be his last. Rachel Moriarty will see to that.
SomeUnregPunk
But not before Joe finally get’s his threesome. With Danny. Then Joe realizes that by limiting his playing field to one team, he has been just limiting his own potential.
Then moments before Joe recreates the world into a sex orgy, Rachel stabs him twice. The 2nd time because Joe jokes that he thought he would be penetrating her during hate sex.
foamy
Fun fact: J’accuse is the French name for Clue.
Reltzik
…….
…. noooooooo.
Reltzik
…. oh, wait, you mean the board game was marketed under the name J’accuse? That makes sense. I misread that as being a direct translation.
Strife
What? I never heard of J’accuse!, Cluedo is called Cluedo in France too.
And when a frenchie reads J’accuse! the thing (s)he immediately thinks about is the article written by Emile Zola in defense of Marechal Dreyfus.
So first thing I wondered about when reading that alt text was “wait, is this a joke on Joe being Jewish?” :/
Showler
But try to explain Cluedo.
Dave
Shitty Spanish translators.
Shiro
Sometimes England’s just fuckin’ weird.
No Name
It’s a portmanteau of “clue” and “Ludo”, another board game with a movement mechanic similar to Clue. Americans didn’t know what it was, so Parker Brothers just shortened it to “Clue”.
Kinoko
^ This. Cluedo was the original.
Daibhid C
I think Americans call Ludo Parcheesi, but the portmanteau doesn’t work with that. Also, “Ludo” is basically just Latin for “a game”, and the original Indian version was something like Pachisi, so I guess that makes more sense…
a/snow mous/e
Parcheesi is also not a super popular game here in America. I mean, it’s one of those games I’ve definitely heard of but never played.
Ryek Hvek
“Parcheesi” was a trademarked name for a version of Pachisi, which a lot of Americans first got to know by way of the Parker Brothers version named Sorry! – Pachisi on a computer is a halfway decent timewaster (ahhh, those dialup internet days, killing time while a webpage loaded)
a/snow mous/e
It looks like Parcheesi was also a Parker Bros. game, and Sorry! is an adaptation of that. I always liked Sorry!… Sorrcheesi? Sorrcluesi?
Ryek Hvek
my Hoyle Board Games calls it Pachisi, with board colors reminiscent of Sorry!, and I always thought they were ducking trademarks more than any other reason for spelling it differently – I only wish Pachisi had something similar to the “move backwards” card in Sorry!, which could leapfrog you from the entry point to just before the home stretch
Clif
Cluecheesey. Hm…
a/snow mous/e
And since we dropped the “-do” in Cluedo, we moved it over to Where’s Wally and made it Where’s Waldo.
I don’t know what we’re doing with the “-ly.” It’s very powerful, as it can turn an adjective into an adverb, so perhaps we’re keeping it as a potential weapon.
Marsh Maryrose
This is “ly.” It’s spelled L-Y and it’s very useful.
Dean
Like Ludo, but with clues.
JessWitt
Is Ludo any fun?
iforgetwhatiputhere
I’ll give you a clue: in greek the game is called “the complainer”. So, no. Unless you’re literally three years old and it’s the first game you play, I guess.
Willinwoods
We call it “Fia med knuff,” roughly “Sophie with a bump.” Only time I’ve had any fun with it as an adult, was when it was incorporated into a game of Nomic.
Havtorn
I was always told Fia was from the latin “Fiat” which someone figured was latin for “walk on”. So the intent was to call it “Walk around and get bumped”.
Ravian
That sounds more fun.
Though honestly any game that encourages players to shout “J’accuse!” at one another during the course of play is top-tier in my book.
BagFaceMan
What’s so special about this Jack Huges guy anyway?
Clif
I think it’s because he’s Canadian.
Ryek Hvek
If he was Canadian, his name would end in an A?
hof1991
No. Spelled normally, just pronounced that way.
Andy
Do you know where French lawyers go to relax?
The j’accuzzi!
Ferdinand Rosenthal
I can’t believe it either, Rachel. And now Joe, feeling like a victim, will go on another tirade.
Dave
Weeell, hacking by sheer definition of the law IS illegal…regardless of how much Joe had it coming…
SomeUnregPunk
Or he will use this to attempt to get laid again. Since he is douchebag, he will probably succeed too.
“Oh woe is me, a lesbian didn’t like how I was visiting the girls dorm and pulled this prank on me.”
Rosicrucian
Oh, I think I like Dumbiverse Rachel.
Doctor_Who
Expressive, ain’t she?
SUGauthor
Counterpoint: She told a suicidal girl that you can’t change things you don’t like about yourself.
Rosicrucian
She’s not perfect. She’s got issues, certainly.
In short, she’s a Dumbiverse character.
StClair
Just so.
JetstreamGW
No no, that’s not how you do it.
Whenever a character displays a character flaw you have to decry them as horrible and irredeemable and talk endlessly about how much they suck.
That’s what the comments teach me.
IllogicalBobcat
Especially if it’s Joe.
Clif
Rachel is Joe?
IllogicalBobcat
Once they reach second semester, everyone will be Joe.
Clif
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Achallenger
Also remember it is a direct reflection on the beliefs and morality of the author
Cephalo the Pod
Issues?
Walky skipping classes and not getting help are “issues”.
Sarah’s fatalistic cynicism and loner tendencies are “issues”.
Telling a suicidal girl she is a lost cause who can never ever earn the trust of people around her is what I like to call “fucking despicable”.
Cephalo the Pod
Not to say I won’t dismiss her good deeds, like calling out Joe on his misogynistic behaviour, and I can synpathize with her general frustration regarding Ruth’s reinstatement as R.A., but let’s just say I’m still waiting for someone to blow up in her face regardin what she said to Ruth.
Spencer
She didn’t say she wanted Ruth to die. She told an abuser that her actions couldn’t be swept under the rug.
Jinxed44
She assigned someone the permanent role of abuser and told her that she would never ever be a better person for the rest of her life.
And that trying otherwise is a lie.
Spencer
If Ruth didn’t want to be assigned the role of abuser she probably shouldn’t have abused the people under her care.
Cephalo the Pod
Indeed, she didn’t say that she actually wanted Ruth to die.
She did say, to a girl fresh out of the hospital for having suicidal tendencies (which PROBABLY had something to do with thinking she could never be a good person), that she, indeed, was never going to be a good person.
Really, the best interpretation is that Ruth is really, really, really fucking stupid.
Cephalo the Pod
*Rachel.
Spencer
Or maybe she’s lashing out at the violent abusive authority figure who got away with everything.
Cephalo the Pod
What good will lashing out at Ruth do? Chloe (thanks to “Sir”) is responsible for putting Ruth back in power.
Spencer
She’s lashing out at Ruth because Ruth was the one who abused her charges and regardless of reasoning she got away with it.
If she didn’t want blowblack from that she shouldn’t have fucking done it.
thejeff
Yeah. I’ve got all the sympathy in the world for Ruth, but it’s easy to see Rachel’s point of view too. Abusive RA, abusive relationship, suffers no consequences from getting busted. Remember, Rachel knows nothing about Sir or why Chloe left her in charge. She’s harsh, but she doesn’t have our vantage point either. She’s got no reason to believe Ruth is actually trying to change. Why should she?
Spencer
I honestly don’t know how to feel about Ruth. There’s so much about her I hate, but I get where she comes from, but even that doesn’t excuse even a lick of what she’s done. I feel… “dirty” is way too strong a word but it bugs me when I catch myself sympathizing with her or wanting her and Billie to stay together. She’s pulled way too much shit and is only saved from Villain status by getting protagonist screen time.
Then again I like Amber a whole lot so I think I’m a hypocrite.
Fart Captor
I wouldn’t call it hypocritical. Both Ruth and Amber are pretty complex to the point where it’s easy to be on the fence about either of them. The difference in their characterization (and the nature of their crappier moments) is enough to explain why you might fall on a different side of the fence for each.
Orion Fury
I think that made me twitch a bit, but I tend to be optimistic that all people have some good deep down, and given the chance, it can be brought out and they can be healed of their pain. Granted by that logic, I should be forgiving of those that talk down those them, but my brain wires bullies differently, I guess. Eh, you’re always the hero of your own story, I suppose.
Clif
Where’s the joy in life if we can’t brutalize bullies and blame them for the world’s ills?
Bruceski
She was right that the desire to change does not mean you’ve changed problem solved. She was wrong in that it’s a damn good place to start.
Fomalhaut
I think that’s an unfair description of what she said.
She argued that you can’t erase your past, and she’s right, you can’t. You can -learn- from it, but redemption in the sense of giving you a clean slate isn’t real.
If redemption is real, it’s in the sense of learning who you are and how to cope with that.
Kole
Countercounter point: Was she wrong? Abusers OFTEN use threat of suicide to get out of the consequences of their actions. The only reason you don’t like Rachel is because narrative has spent a lot of time building up Ruth and why she acts the way she does. Rachel has none of that “behind the scenes” that we have.
Counter point overruled, Rachel stays.
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