Did Willis change Joe’s dialog in the last panel? I remember being confused by it when I read it this morning, but now it makes perfect sense. Maybe I just wasn’t awake yet.
Lol, Danny cracks me up. I don’t know why people here seem to dislike him so much. He’s cute, he tries to be nice, his failures are often just social faux pas and not literally beating people up like many of the other cast members.
IMO, it’s because a lot of people see their own past fuckups in him – the person they were at that age, when they didn’t know any better, and now would like to forget.
I think his Walky!verse version being an unlikable git-bag, that this version hasn’t been differentiated from enough, doesn’t help his case either. Like Faz, before we were harshly reminded that his one parent was Blaine.
I think more people like him than don’t, it’s just, that like with every character (except Dina anyway), the people who dislike him are a *lot* louder than the people who think he’s alright, or at least interesting.
Oh and the ‘REAL MOM” Digs he’s been spewing at Joe
Madock345
Joe did not appear to take that as a dig, he kept smiling straight through the panels.
I don’t remember a racial slur?
The Mike thing was obviously bad, but I feel like the comments are much more forgiving to characters who made far worse mistakes than that. I think we literally got a rare thought bubble from Danny in that situation to make it clear that he was just running his mouth out of control and not feeling actual malice. The degree of hatred just seems wholly disproportional.
Mechajin
Yeah, I think the Real Mom thing was just awkward buffy speak. Something that happens fairly regularly in this comic anyway.
As for the racial slur, I don’t remember one either, and it seems pretty out of character for him. Danny is at worst, Kind of a jerk, that seems like Mary levels of dickishness.
Shade
He called Walkie Mowgli.
Azhrei Vep
A barely-socialized manchild? Sounds about right.
Spencer
That’s probably what Danny was getting at but there’s still the undercurrent of “unsocialized jungle boy” which… you know, not really an okay thing to say about Walky.
People like Danny when he goes for extended periods of not having any character flaws (like he did when he was trying to figure out if he liked Ethan or taking the brunt of Amber’s worsening mental health) and turn on him when he says things like “your mom who I am distinguishing from your newfound stepmother has called.” The idea that a 19 year old can occasionally say crappy things and remain a decent person is alien.
COMMANDMENTS OF THE DUMBING OF AGE COMMENT SECTION AND FANBASE
1.) Thou shalt not believe that Danny might be a generally nice boy who sometimes says shitty and problematic things, then feels bad. Know thou instead that he is Dancifer, called SATAN, who is the Devil, source of all Evil.
2.) Thou shalt conflate Dan eternally with his Walkyverse counterpart in the most tiresome grognard way, for truly I say to thee, never shalt this get old.
3.) Thou shalt make out of innocuous remarks the most vast towers of personal sin, and on behalf of the characters which we have declared good, shalt thee launch Holy Crusades against the remonstrater, e’en if the character spoken to careth not.
4.) Thou shalt not believe Willis knoweth his own characters’ motivations nor thoughts. That is a gift given only to Thee.
(FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE)
He Who Abides
5) Damn thee, Willis.
clif
Amen.
So mote it be.
Have a spare Internet.
Reed
wow. i can’t believe you wrote the truest thing i’ve ever read. also i was wondering what was going on and if I was somehow a terrible person for liking Danny even though everyone else apparently hates him. glad to know I’m not alone.
It also sort of depends on how he and Joe normally refer to Joe’s mother, we don’t really know but Joe didn’t correct him at all.
Spencer
That Joe didn’t feel the need to correct him in a following strip indicates that he’s not bothered by Danny referring to his bio mom as his “real mom” over his new stepmother he met a few months ago.
RowenMorland
Or at least that it is in the goldilocks zone of banter for them. Not to mean, not too milquetoast.
I imagine he just filters out anything that might involve responsibility, like letting your parents know you arrived somewhere safely, which is why Danny is always tasked with that job
Whether it might retroactively bother him, idk, it IS Joe
because danny tries to be nice at first, but the moment anyone does anything he wouldn’t do himself or doesn;t act the way he wants too, he shifts hard hard haaaaard into judgement mode. something that’s extremly rude and also completly not his place to say, especially since he;s never gone into judgement for anything other than a difference in personality
and it’s not just ‘occassionallly says something bad’ – he ends most conversations with a passive agressive insult too the person he’s talking too, and usually whenever he mentions anyone else, it’s passive agressive insults
danny’s not some bullied perfect child people dislike because ‘haha we can’ – he has repeated acts of being super unpleasant and super dickish that saying ‘hes a 19 year old you have to forgive him!’ doesn’t fix
*he ends most conversations with a passive agressive insult too the person he’s talking too, and usually whenever he mentions anyone else, it’s passive agressive insults*
He didn’t judge Amber, though. He was worried about her, and really tried to be there for her.
He didn’t judge Ethan, either, even if he was jealous of his boyfriends/flings.
He didn’t judge Sal, neither for being bad at math nor her whole bad girl thing.
I’m sorry, I don’t really see it.
Oh,and he doesn’t judge Joe, usually. Which he maybe should have a bit more.
thejeff
Yeah, it’s hard to even think of examples.
Mike, obviously.
Apparently some old comment about Walky.
The only time I really disliked him was in the “would that be so bad converstion” with Ethan. Apart from that I think the hate he gets is dispropotionate to the things he does.
Yeah, he screws up periodically, but most of the time it’s honest mistakes. (Even in that conversation, I’m damn certain he wasn’t thinking Mike would actually die. Just, not something you can avoid accounting for in that scenario, even with 18-year-olds tending to think they’re immortal.)
People take the “danning it up” meme too far and act like he’s the worst person in the comic. He’s just a normal guy, sometimes petty, sometimes funny. People here act like they’ve never “done a Danny” before. He gets as much hate as actual villains in this comic and if some of the more loved characters did the same stuff as him they’d get away with it waaay easier. It’s a shame because he’s probably the most realistic character in the comic. I’m sure if many commenters who hate him actually had hundreds of people reading a strip about their first year at college they would find themselves being considered the “Danny” – we’ve all done something we regret, Dan’s just get held against him more for some reason. (Also he is very cute and I love his finding out he’s Bi arc and experimenting with who he is – totally normal and harmless thing to do! And yet he gets given such ire for it)
I stand by the assertion that Danny hate is so prominent because he’s a lot more like us than we care to admit.
He tumbles and falls and is oblivious and says dumb shit sometimes. He doesn’t have sweeping victories of character development, he just puts a dapper hat on and picks up a ukelele because he’s confused and lost on who he is.
Late sidenote: This genuinely isn’t Walky making a dig at Joe or Danny. It’s Walky having, as established in that previous sequence, almost no friends in his hall, just superficial relationships. All his friends are girls.
Danny’s behavior here is reprehensible at best, and morally indefensible to boot. He needs to grow up and stop being so damn judgemental of every single thing everyone else does.
/s
Yeah, I really think this is more the point. Why is Joe more worried about what *Dorothy* would say? And if Amber would let him (although I think she wouldn’t), what’s it got to do with Dorothy?
No. The point is that Dorothy wouldn’t let him do it with Amber on account of their commitment to the tradition of swapping boy friends. Particularly since custom demands that Dorothy go first.
Shade
Or you know, because Dorothy doesn’t want to make out with him though in her case he actually would if she wanted to.
194 thoughts on “Flavor”
Ana Chronistic
DoA!IU students give the worst tours
at least Walky manages not to show off only people’s backs
Agemegos
Walky has form:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/yawnchasm/
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/plebs/
BorkBorkBork
This just reminds me that there’s an entire universe where Joyce and Walky are a thing together and it makes me happy.
Ana Chronistic
There were technically MANY such universes, but most of them end badly (per Head Alien aka “Dexter”)
Regalli
Head Alien does have that effect on people.
Chris
Yes, Joe definitely needs to find Danny’s hat and wear it for a chapter or two.
not someone else
Honestly, Joe, a hat is about the last thing your hair needs right now.
RowenMorland
Ok, but how tall would he be if he started wearing a bunny ear headband.
Ana Chronistic
A tall drink of water
RowenMorland
That fits your current avatar very well 😀
Cholma
No Joe, Dorothy will NOT let you make out with your step-sister. ;p
Taigan
Did Willis change Joe’s dialog in the last panel? I remember being confused by it when I read it this morning, but now it makes perfect sense. Maybe I just wasn’t awake yet.
Opus the Poet
It’s the same as when I read it at midnight.
Cholma
It’s the same. I was purposely misconstruing Joe’s remark.
Ana Chronistic
Did it say Amber instead of “my step-sister”? That’s all I can think of
Madock345
Lol, Danny cracks me up. I don’t know why people here seem to dislike him so much. He’s cute, he tries to be nice, his failures are often just social faux pas and not literally beating people up like many of the other cast members.
StClair
IMO, it’s because a lot of people see their own past fuckups in him – the person they were at that age, when they didn’t know any better, and now would like to forget.
He Who Abides
I think his Walky!verse version being an unlikable git-bag, that this version hasn’t been differentiated from enough, doesn’t help his case either. Like Faz, before we were harshly reminded that his one parent was Blaine.
Bogeywoman
*narrows eyes* I object… on the basis that I agree
Mechajin
I think more people like him than don’t, it’s just, that like with every character (except Dina anyway), the people who dislike him are a *lot* louder than the people who think he’s alright, or at least interesting.
Reaver
Might be a mixture of the racial slur he said to Walky, him saying “Would it be so bad?” if Mike died to Ethan, his clingy, overbearing personality..
Reaver
Oh and the ‘REAL MOM” Digs he’s been spewing at Joe
Madock345
Joe did not appear to take that as a dig, he kept smiling straight through the panels.
I don’t remember a racial slur?
The Mike thing was obviously bad, but I feel like the comments are much more forgiving to characters who made far worse mistakes than that. I think we literally got a rare thought bubble from Danny in that situation to make it clear that he was just running his mouth out of control and not feeling actual malice. The degree of hatred just seems wholly disproportional.
Mechajin
Yeah, I think the Real Mom thing was just awkward buffy speak. Something that happens fairly regularly in this comic anyway.
As for the racial slur, I don’t remember one either, and it seems pretty out of character for him. Danny is at worst, Kind of a jerk, that seems like Mary levels of dickishness.
Shade
He called Walkie Mowgli.
Azhrei Vep
A barely-socialized manchild? Sounds about right.
Spencer
That’s probably what Danny was getting at but there’s still the undercurrent of “unsocialized jungle boy” which… you know, not really an okay thing to say about Walky.
Spencer
People like Danny when he goes for extended periods of not having any character flaws (like he did when he was trying to figure out if he liked Ethan or taking the brunt of Amber’s worsening mental health) and turn on him when he says things like “your mom who I am distinguishing from your newfound stepmother has called.” The idea that a 19 year old can occasionally say crappy things and remain a decent person is alien.
StClair
unpossible
Varangian
COMMANDMENTS OF THE DUMBING OF AGE COMMENT SECTION AND FANBASE
1.) Thou shalt not believe that Danny might be a generally nice boy who sometimes says shitty and problematic things, then feels bad. Know thou instead that he is Dancifer, called SATAN, who is the Devil, source of all Evil.
2.) Thou shalt conflate Dan eternally with his Walkyverse counterpart in the most tiresome grognard way, for truly I say to thee, never shalt this get old.
3.) Thou shalt make out of innocuous remarks the most vast towers of personal sin, and on behalf of the characters which we have declared good, shalt thee launch Holy Crusades against the remonstrater, e’en if the character spoken to careth not.
4.) Thou shalt not believe Willis knoweth his own characters’ motivations nor thoughts. That is a gift given only to Thee.
(FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE)
He Who Abides
5) Damn thee, Willis.
clif
Amen.
So mote it be.
Have a spare Internet.
Reed
wow. i can’t believe you wrote the truest thing i’ve ever read. also i was wondering what was going on and if I was somehow a terrible person for liking Danny even though everyone else apparently hates him. glad to know I’m not alone.
Arian
Well said.
RowenMorland
It also sort of depends on how he and Joe normally refer to Joe’s mother, we don’t really know but Joe didn’t correct him at all.
Spencer
That Joe didn’t feel the need to correct him in a following strip indicates that he’s not bothered by Danny referring to his bio mom as his “real mom” over his new stepmother he met a few months ago.
RowenMorland
Or at least that it is in the goldilocks zone of banter for them. Not to mean, not too milquetoast.
Ana Chronistic
I imagine he just filters out anything that might involve responsibility, like letting your parents know you arrived somewhere safely, which is why Danny is always tasked with that job
Whether it might retroactively bother him, idk, it IS Joe
beige
because danny tries to be nice at first, but the moment anyone does anything he wouldn’t do himself or doesn;t act the way he wants too, he shifts hard hard haaaaard into judgement mode. something that’s extremly rude and also completly not his place to say, especially since he;s never gone into judgement for anything other than a difference in personality
and it’s not just ‘occassionallly says something bad’ – he ends most conversations with a passive agressive insult too the person he’s talking too, and usually whenever he mentions anyone else, it’s passive agressive insults
danny’s not some bullied perfect child people dislike because ‘haha we can’ – he has repeated acts of being super unpleasant and super dickish that saying ‘hes a 19 year old you have to forgive him!’ doesn’t fix
Spencer
*he ends most conversations with a passive agressive insult too the person he’s talking too, and usually whenever he mentions anyone else, it’s passive agressive insults*
No he doesn’t.
RedCat
He didn’t judge Amber, though. He was worried about her, and really tried to be there for her.
He didn’t judge Ethan, either, even if he was jealous of his boyfriends/flings.
He didn’t judge Sal, neither for being bad at math nor her whole bad girl thing.
I’m sorry, I don’t really see it.
Oh,and he doesn’t judge Joe, usually. Which he maybe should have a bit more.
thejeff
Yeah, it’s hard to even think of examples.
Mike, obviously.
Apparently some old comment about Walky.
Queezle
The only time I really disliked him was in the “would that be so bad converstion” with Ethan. Apart from that I think the hate he gets is dispropotionate to the things he does.
Regalli
Yeah, he screws up periodically, but most of the time it’s honest mistakes. (Even in that conversation, I’m damn certain he wasn’t thinking Mike would actually die. Just, not something you can avoid accounting for in that scenario, even with 18-year-olds tending to think they’re immortal.)
thejeff
Yeah. And since that was recent it’s carrying over to the at worst mildly bad “real mom” thing a few days ago.
Jhon
I liked new Danny.
Wishwater
People take the “danning it up” meme too far and act like he’s the worst person in the comic. He’s just a normal guy, sometimes petty, sometimes funny. People here act like they’ve never “done a Danny” before. He gets as much hate as actual villains in this comic and if some of the more loved characters did the same stuff as him they’d get away with it waaay easier. It’s a shame because he’s probably the most realistic character in the comic. I’m sure if many commenters who hate him actually had hundreds of people reading a strip about their first year at college they would find themselves being considered the “Danny” – we’ve all done something we regret, Dan’s just get held against him more for some reason. (Also he is very cute and I love his finding out he’s Bi arc and experimenting with who he is – totally normal and harmless thing to do! And yet he gets given such ire for it)
Spencer
I stand by the assertion that Danny hate is so prominent because he’s a lot more like us than we care to admit.
He tumbles and falls and is oblivious and says dumb shit sometimes. He doesn’t have sweeping victories of character development, he just puts a dapper hat on and picks up a ukelele because he’s confused and lost on who he is.
StClair
And that’s why I hate
myselfhim./s
Slartibeast Button, BIA
No tapping on the glass!
Kravis
Yeah, Joe, time to wake up in the floor with Joyce again…
Regalli
… The sad part is, I think this is a step up from Jason visiting the dorm.
Regalli
Late sidenote: This genuinely isn’t Walky making a dig at Joe or Danny. It’s Walky having, as established in that previous sequence, almost no friends in his hall, just superficial relationships. All his friends are girls.
Delicious Taffy
Danny’s behavior here is reprehensible at best, and morally indefensible to boot. He needs to grow up and stop being so damn judgemental of every single thing everyone else does.
/s
TemporalShrew
He needs to grow up and accept his role as a zoo animal.
C.T Phipps
Agreed.
Oh wait, was that sarcasm?
leaf
Does he think Amber would let him?
Agemegos
He thinks that it would never get so far. His disinclination to make a pass means that Amber’s non-consent would never become the binding constraint.
Regalli
Yeah, he’s indicated twice now he finds ‘new stepsister I’m trying to form a familial relationship with’ a hard no.
Arian
Yeah, I really think this is more the point. Why is Joe more worried about what *Dorothy* would say? And if Amber would let him (although I think she wouldn’t), what’s it got to do with Dorothy?
clif
No. The point is that Dorothy wouldn’t let him do it with Amber on account of their commitment to the tradition of swapping boy friends. Particularly since custom demands that Dorothy go first.
Shade
Or you know, because Dorothy doesn’t want to make out with him though in her case he actually would if she wanted to.
EnerPrime
Dorothy is the other girl both Waky and Danny made out with, and Joe is (somewhat awkwardly) saying that Dorothy would not make out with Joe herself.
Jhon
Mention a girl and Joe’s mind immediately goes to ‘make-outs’. I had hoped his character development would be more lasting.
Stephen Bierce
*plays some Simon & Garfunkle on the hacked Muzak*
Stephen Bierce
Don’t forget to get a bag of peanuts.
Josh Spicer
The best part is Walky is 100% correct on all descriptions, with Booster being absolutely fair to find it interesting in the weirdest way.
Van Jealous
Monkey See…..Monkey…p .
Agemegos
Sea monkeys?
Jamie
Joe: “Do.”
Van Jealous