Man, I can’t believe the nerve of Dorothy, still trying to keep Joyce in a box instead of letting her blossom into an adult with a partner of her choosing.
Schpoonman
JoycexDorothy bait was funny for like 12 years, now I just see Dorothy gleefully obfuscating consent and the comic not calling her out on it once.
HueSatLight
you’re not wrong. timescale kind of screws up how long it should take people to notice and say something. Need Jennifer to show up and have enough time not dealing with her own drama, to fix/break this.
thejeff
I’m not even sure what “gleefully obfuscating consent” is supposed to be about here.
Jeremiah
Probably the washing machine thing. Like, yeah it was a bit weird but “gleefully obfuscating consent” is a reach.
Xujhan
Many close friendships reach a point where asking for forgiveness rather than permission really is the more practical thing. Not everyone wants that, and that’s okay, but speaking for myself it’s pretty great.
thejeff
I could at least understand it there, but I thought Schpoonman was talking about this strip or at least this sequence.
a good boyfriend would not cockblock his girlfriend
Reltzik
But might clitblock the girl making a move on his girlfriend, especially if he does so by making the exact same move on said girlfriend only doing it better.
Schpoonman
Exactly. Joe’s not clitblocking his girlfriend, how do you think she’s going to feel about her mountain of a boyfriend learning T-Swizzle lyrics with her?
(Then again, I had no idea she was called T-Swizzle. I’d say I was becoming Abe Simpson, but I never “used to be with it”.)
Schpoonman
I think T-Swizzle miiight be something I independently started using. Probably to annoy her fans when they wouldn’t leave me alone for having my own taste in music.
Taffy
I’ve heard that one a lot, ’round these parts.
Michael Steamweed
Yeah, clamjam. Cockblock rhymes. Clamjam rhymes. But clamblock and clitblock don’t. Rhyme is lubed flow in language; very important to have. i can’t think of anything readily apparent for clit…maybe clitquit?
Gigafreak
I have also heard it called “Beaver Dam” which does not rhyme but has a poetry to it
Reltzik
This is slang we’re talking about. It’s called whatever became popular on TikTok 5 minutes ago.
I had no idea it was Taylor swift. I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard her music. I heard a Pendulum cover of one of her songs, and that’s probably the closest
She’s possibly my least favorite artist ever musically. I can’t believe she’s still around and Katy Perry has faded into the 10’s. If there’s some celeb gossip related reason for this, I wouldn’t know it because I don’t follow celebrities.
I knew people who met and worked alongside Taylor Swift. She apparently treats people as badly as her music treats my ears.
I’m not sure, but I think that counts as celebrity gossip.
Vanessa
Amazing level of insider knowledge. I on the other hand, only know what I read about any singers on Vox News and NPR. All I can think about is that’s me espresso and for some reason The Last Time I Saw Richard.
Jamie
I’ve heard that Taylor Swift exists.
I’m sure I’ve heard one of her songs accidentally, but damned if I could name even one track. Songs with lyrics largely get ignored by me.
Miri
Shake it off. There’s a Disney Princess fanmade version (and a kids one) on YouTube that my girls both loved when they were around 2-5-ish.
Katy Perry’s Roar was also in the “kids music video rotation” but the middle one has now discovered Sing and Sing 2, and introduced our youngest to those (which include CGI pigs dancing to Shake it Off), so those ones (plus “Time to be Awesome” from the MLP movie, and some other upbeat, empowering ones from the movie Ballerina are more likely to play…
Should also locate the Katy Perry video with the little girl beating up a whole room full of karate jerks and reintroduce it to them…
Taylor’s got a lot of detractors, and with good reason, but honestly? She writes her stuff and Katy doesn’t, and that is a contributing factor to how she enjoys much more credibility with a lot of music fans, though Katy did herself no favors with some really bad career choices at times.
taylor’s dad is richer and her music is more bland and therefore has a wider potential audience (supermarket customers)
i have never liked either singer but at least the world doesn’t try to trick me into hearing katy perry songs 80 times a day and no one yells at me or acts oppressed if i say i don’t like her ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
also statistically speaking someone here should like a genre other than bland pop music
Mark
Would Baroque or easy listening count?
Xujhan
Aqua already exists and all pop music since then is but a pale imitation.
That’s like the exact OPPOSITE of what I’ve heard about TS and the people around her. I’ve only ever heard good things about how she treats people, and that she shares her wealth with employees and every city she performs in. Whoever claimed to work for her and told you that seems be affected by a major case of jealousy.
Vanessa
Taylor Swift and her finance bro dad have actually made a new economy the size of some states. On balance probably good.
Sirksome
I honestly wouldn’t believe any rumors, good or bad about Taylor Swift or any celebrity that enjoys her insane level of fame. There’s financial motivation for or against her and a cult like passion with both. I would say as a jaded adult that individuals that enjoy her incredible level of privilege and wealth likely don’t do enough considering the major gaps in quality of life and income in our society.
Pylgrim
Not to mention that she is a successful woman with (some) progressive views. That alone accounts for heaps of hatred.
Bittersweet
Idk, maybe she got nicer over time or was just an ass to my friends for some reason. This was back in 2013 before she quite hit superstardom. I think she was still doing that godawful fake country.
I appreciate that she writes her own songs; that is like, the only way I can have even a passing interest in that kind of music, otherwise it’s like, no, I’m not gonna listen to what your corporate committee thought might work. I mean I’m not gonna listen anyway, but I can at least respect that she’s an actual songwriter, which isn’t nothing for those kind of people. But yeah, like, bland as hell in terms of those same actual songs.
I mean I wouldn’t call myself a fan but her music does, mostly manage to keep up with the times? Not all for the better, the whole reputation era felt dated the second it came out, there’s the cringe NiceGirl song that was sooo 2000s, and I’m sure she’d like to forget she ever made “you’re so gay”. But Katy Perry is strictly a 2000s and 2010s artist. That was her era, the sexy, male gazey campiness with mindless but fun pop. Like her woman’s world MV would’ve done fine like 10, 15 years ago. But it’s just dated and she can’t keep up.
I really like taylor swift songs, but I hate the pop music sound, so I listen to a lot of covers. Us The Duo does a spectacular cover of Shake It Off, which is what got me started.
That’s me and most of pop! I go “blech” at whatever is constantly playing on the radio, but play me a moody acoustic cover of the same track and I’ll eat it up.
Unless you like literally don’t go out you probably *have* heard a Taylor Swift song and probably didn’t realize it. Over the past decade or so, her music has become sort of the default to the point where you’re likely to hear her on various retail playlists, etc.
Not entirely sure why Taylor Swift lyrics would need to be taught.
I say that as someone who’s actually a big fan of Taylor Swift. I just don’t get what Dorothy was going to offer.
Also, it’s interesting that Joyce and Joe are going to read through the lyrics while they listen. That’s something I’d do, but I’ve learned most people often aren’t that concerned with lyrics.
I guess. In my experience, that happens more when people are already into the song and know it decently, and also more likely with high energy songs, which this is not, but if that’s what’s happening here, sure.
Thag Simmons
Eh, you can sing basically anything with a chorus in a group and have it be fun. It’s not Barrett’s Privateers or anything but it’ll do.
176 thoughts on “Enchanted”
Sirksome
Soon, Dorothy……soon.
Schpoonman
Ha ha ha, get wrecked, Dorothy.
poofdepoof
?
Schpoonman
Joe, your Walky is showing. It’s okay, you mostly saved it.
Delavan
Nah. Look at the facial expression. He’s negging himself about the Macho. Still, he’s working on it.
GholaHalleck
In the immortal words of the 80’s…
GO JOE!
GreyICE
Man, I can’t believe the nerve of these guys, butting in on Joyce and Dorothy’s date like that.
Schpoonman
Man, I can’t believe the nerve of Dorothy, still trying to keep Joyce in a box instead of letting her blossom into an adult with a partner of her choosing.
Schpoonman
JoycexDorothy bait was funny for like 12 years, now I just see Dorothy gleefully obfuscating consent and the comic not calling her out on it once.
HueSatLight
you’re not wrong. timescale kind of screws up how long it should take people to notice and say something. Need Jennifer to show up and have enough time not dealing with her own drama, to fix/break this.
thejeff
I’m not even sure what “gleefully obfuscating consent” is supposed to be about here.
Jeremiah
Probably the washing machine thing. Like, yeah it was a bit weird but “gleefully obfuscating consent” is a reach.
Xujhan
Many close friendships reach a point where asking for forgiveness rather than permission really is the more practical thing. Not everyone wants that, and that’s okay, but speaking for myself it’s pretty great.
thejeff
I could at least understand it there, but I thought Schpoonman was talking about this strip or at least this sequence.
Doctor_Who
Considering Walky’s previously displayed alcohol tolerance and present verticality, either he means three sips or that cup is 95% Sprite.
MM
Is it really an “either,” or more of an “and”?
Nono
I guess Joe really swooped in.. Swiftly!
Vanessa
Nice. Ready to undo some toxic masculinity conditioning, good job Joe.
Reltzik
Wow, that pun was taylor-made for this comic.
Bash
+1
zee
But where’s the Tupac ai?
Ed Callahan
Definitely one for the Eras.
Switchchris
Im so proud of Joe, thats some great boyfriending he is doing there.
Akane
I guess, but he ruined the moment.
jpnr
a good boyfriend would not cockblock his girlfriend
Reltzik
But might clitblock the girl making a move on his girlfriend, especially if he does so by making the exact same move on said girlfriend only doing it better.
Schpoonman
Exactly. Joe’s not clitblocking his girlfriend, how do you think she’s going to feel about her mountain of a boyfriend learning T-Swizzle lyrics with her?
ValdVin
I thought it was called clamjamming.
(Then again, I had no idea she was called T-Swizzle. I’d say I was becoming Abe Simpson, but I never “used to be with it”.)
Schpoonman
I think T-Swizzle miiight be something I independently started using. Probably to annoy her fans when they wouldn’t leave me alone for having my own taste in music.
Taffy
I’ve heard that one a lot, ’round these parts.
Michael Steamweed
Yeah, clamjam. Cockblock rhymes. Clamjam rhymes. But clamblock and clitblock don’t. Rhyme is lubed flow in language; very important to have. i can’t think of anything readily apparent for clit…maybe clitquit?
Gigafreak
I have also heard it called “Beaver Dam” which does not rhyme but has a poetry to it
Reltzik
This is slang we’re talking about. It’s called whatever became popular on TikTok 5 minutes ago.
Rowen Morland
Clamjam.
morleuca
Beaver dam
Gigafreak
C’mon and slam, subject that clam to jam
Big Z
More like, he stomped on Dorothy TRYING to ruin the moment.
(I really hate JoycexDorothy, so I’m always unreasonably happy when someone puts another hole below the waterline of that already sinking ship.)
RassilonTDavros
One day, Walky will be able to admit this while sober.
Today is not that day.
Jo_cubstar
I had no idea it was Taylor swift. I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard her music. I heard a Pendulum cover of one of her songs, and that’s probably the closest
Bittersweet
She’s possibly my least favorite artist ever musically. I can’t believe she’s still around and Katy Perry has faded into the 10’s. If there’s some celeb gossip related reason for this, I wouldn’t know it because I don’t follow celebrities.
I knew people who met and worked alongside Taylor Swift. She apparently treats people as badly as her music treats my ears.
Clif
I’m not sure, but I think that counts as celebrity gossip.
Vanessa
Amazing level of insider knowledge. I on the other hand, only know what I read about any singers on Vox News and NPR. All I can think about is that’s me espresso and for some reason The Last Time I Saw Richard.
Jamie
I’ve heard that Taylor Swift exists.
I’m sure I’ve heard one of her songs accidentally, but damned if I could name even one track. Songs with lyrics largely get ignored by me.
Miri
Shake it off. There’s a Disney Princess fanmade version (and a kids one) on YouTube that my girls both loved when they were around 2-5-ish.
Katy Perry’s Roar was also in the “kids music video rotation” but the middle one has now discovered Sing and Sing 2, and introduced our youngest to those (which include CGI pigs dancing to Shake it Off), so those ones (plus “Time to be Awesome” from the MLP movie, and some other upbeat, empowering ones from the movie Ballerina are more likely to play…
Should also locate the Katy Perry video with the little girl beating up a whole room full of karate jerks and reintroduce it to them…
Pylgrim
Roar is objectively awesome.
stePH
RAWR
https://schafferthedarklord.bandcamp.com/track/rawr
Crytter
My lack of knowledge of Taylor Swift was ruined by MLP:FiM music videos.
DailyBrad
Taylor’s got a lot of detractors, and with good reason, but honestly? She writes her stuff and Katy doesn’t, and that is a contributing factor to how she enjoys much more credibility with a lot of music fans, though Katy did herself no favors with some really bad career choices at times.
brute
taylor’s dad is richer and her music is more bland and therefore has a wider potential audience (supermarket customers)
i have never liked either singer but at least the world doesn’t try to trick me into hearing katy perry songs 80 times a day and no one yells at me or acts oppressed if i say i don’t like her ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
also statistically speaking someone here should like a genre other than bland pop music
Mark
Would Baroque or easy listening count?
Xujhan
Aqua already exists and all pop music since then is but a pale imitation.
Carla's #2 Fan
Katy Perry is also no bueno
Cholma
That’s like the exact OPPOSITE of what I’ve heard about TS and the people around her. I’ve only ever heard good things about how she treats people, and that she shares her wealth with employees and every city she performs in. Whoever claimed to work for her and told you that seems be affected by a major case of jealousy.
Vanessa
Taylor Swift and her finance bro dad have actually made a new economy the size of some states. On balance probably good.
Sirksome
I honestly wouldn’t believe any rumors, good or bad about Taylor Swift or any celebrity that enjoys her insane level of fame. There’s financial motivation for or against her and a cult like passion with both. I would say as a jaded adult that individuals that enjoy her incredible level of privilege and wealth likely don’t do enough considering the major gaps in quality of life and income in our society.
Pylgrim
Not to mention that she is a successful woman with (some) progressive views. That alone accounts for heaps of hatred.
Bittersweet
Idk, maybe she got nicer over time or was just an ass to my friends for some reason. This was back in 2013 before she quite hit superstardom. I think she was still doing that godawful fake country.
Barf Ninjason
I appreciate that she writes her own songs; that is like, the only way I can have even a passing interest in that kind of music, otherwise it’s like, no, I’m not gonna listen to what your corporate committee thought might work. I mean I’m not gonna listen anyway, but I can at least respect that she’s an actual songwriter, which isn’t nothing for those kind of people. But yeah, like, bland as hell in terms of those same actual songs.
zee
I mean I wouldn’t call myself a fan but her music does, mostly manage to keep up with the times? Not all for the better, the whole reputation era felt dated the second it came out, there’s the cringe NiceGirl song that was sooo 2000s, and I’m sure she’d like to forget she ever made “you’re so gay”. But Katy Perry is strictly a 2000s and 2010s artist. That was her era, the sexy, male gazey campiness with mindless but fun pop. Like her woman’s world MV would’ve done fine like 10, 15 years ago. But it’s just dated and she can’t keep up.
Reltzik
I also didn’t know it was Taylor Swift, until I googled the lyrics after yesterday’s comic.
Bridgebrain
I really like taylor swift songs, but I hate the pop music sound, so I listen to a lot of covers. Us The Duo does a spectacular cover of Shake It Off, which is what got me started.
eh, whatever
Better: here’s a parody of Shake It Off.
davidbreslin101
That’s me and most of pop! I go “blech” at whatever is constantly playing on the radio, but play me a moody acoustic cover of the same track and I’ll eat it up.
davidbreslin101
…of COURSE I was Blowjob Cat for that comment.
superglucose
Unless you like literally don’t go out you probably *have* heard a Taylor Swift song and probably didn’t realize it. Over the past decade or so, her music has become sort of the default to the point where you’re likely to hear her on various retail playlists, etc.
Yumi
Not entirely sure why Taylor Swift lyrics would need to be taught.
I say that as someone who’s actually a big fan of Taylor Swift. I just don’t get what Dorothy was going to offer.
Also, it’s interesting that Joyce and Joe are going to read through the lyrics while they listen. That’s something I’d do, but I’ve learned most people often aren’t that concerned with lyrics.
Thag Simmons
I guess if you’re all singing the verses together?
Yumi
I guess. In my experience, that happens more when people are already into the song and know it decently, and also more likely with high energy songs, which this is not, but if that’s what’s happening here, sure.
Thag Simmons
Eh, you can sing basically anything with a chorus in a group and have it be fun. It’s not Barrett’s Privateers or anything but it’ll do.
Yumi
Me, turning to a classmate when I was in high school and Katy Perry’s “Firework” was playing: “Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?”
Them: “…What?”
Me: “D-do you ever feel like… a plastic bag… it’s… the first line of the song…”
Them: “What song? This song? Huh.”
Vanessa
lol this is me as well, not listening to any lyrics and ignoring any background music, while my husband identifies every song.
That is a very weird line.
Yumi
I was trying to joke about it by saying it dead serious, and then I just felt so awkward!
Otl1973