This topic is pretty debatable but for my two cents I do think Joe got to second base. Liz’s state of undress implies there was at least a little bit of action before she got nervous.
But what makes ’em secondary sexual characteristics?
Slartibeast Button, BIA
These characteristics are particularly evident in the sexually dimorphic phenotypic traits that distinguish the sexes of a species,[3] but unlike the sex organs (primary sex characteristics), are not directly part of the reproductive system.
[…]
In humans, visible secondary sex characteristics include pubic hair, enlarged breasts and widened hips of females, and facial hair and Adam’s apples on males.
Oh it’s legitimately a question, not her saying something to dodge the obvious question.
*the more you know rainbow*
Regalli
*Cues up the showtunes* Tits and aa~ass!
Sambo
Today I learned that “secondary sexual characteristics” is a scientific term
Thag Simmons
Kind of a necessary thing to have, since sexual dimorphism can vary pretty wildly across species.
Undrave
Like the lipstick on female Wobuffets!
Matthew E Davis
Wait, why is pubic hair on women a secondary sex characteristic, but not on men?
Kavonde
I’m pretty sure it’s a secondary characteristic for humans in general.
thejeff
Yeah, that’s badly phrased in the wiki article. It’s a broad term and it covers both characteristics that distinguish between the sexes and those that develop with puberty.
StClair
The Oxford Comma strikes again!
Thag Simmons
Secondary sexual characteristics are sexually dimorphic traits that are not primary sexual characteristics (which are the reproductive bits)
It’s different depending on what species you’re looking at. For example, the mane of a male lion is a secondary sexual characteristic.
brionl
Puberty makes them SSCs.
Skater Girl
In the terminology of biological science, secondary sex characteristics are those that develop after/during puberty. It’s not a metaphor, Dina is being clinical and using formal language as she usually does.
There is some overlap there! But technicalism seems more accurate, and I probably would have used it if I knew/remembered it
Agemegos
Yes. The really funny thing is that most of the English and ISV technicalisms for human’s naughty bits aren’t actually the basic Latin words for those things, they are mealy-mouthed Latin euphemisms.
“You in fact did not, squeeze those melons, smush those sweater puppies, Ponder those orbs, grab her chesticles, or descend down into marshmallow hell?”
I’m gonna start headcannoning that Dina’s just a gal who finds boobs super neat.
The Wellerman
Why do they call it “marshmallow hell”?
Robbie
Wait is ponder the orbs a euphemism people actually use? Asking for an autistic ace … Who is me.
The Wellerman
Well a quick search says it’s a meme that’s like a day old, so no not a lot of people use it. I think.
Robbie
I’ve definitely seen the meme about wizards and orbs but I never thought it had anything to do with boobs.
Marshmallow hell is an anime term usually referring to when a characters has their head fully immersed in someone’s breasts. Marshmallow because of the softness of boobs, and Hell because they probably can’t breathe in there.
Man I wanna go to marshmallow hell.
The Wellerman
Hey if that’s what you call marshmallow hell, than what do you call a smore? ? ?
Marshmallow, in the Burgerverse, is not an exotic dancer , but I think a courtesan (also, correct as necessary) (using certain words from my work computer).
“Why do they call you Marshmallow?”
“Because if I see a sweet potato pie, I am all over it!”
Robbie
I’m relieved I haven’t been missing the point of all the weird orb pondering tweets all week lol
The Wellerman
I totally feel you on that one bruh, only for Willis’s bonus comics. I’m actually not that much into memes.
Matthew E Davis
Well, canon seems to be that she and Becky haven’t done anything with the primary sex charactistics, so there has to be _something_ that attracts her physically, I’d think.
eh, whatever
No, why? Dina is in love. That doesn’t require any sexual attraction.
It’s not a metaphor. Secondary sexual characteristics are those things that evolve during puberty. Like, stuff that is not exactly necessary for reproduction but makes you look male or female. In this setting, her breast and maybe her behind.
I don’t think it’s that commonly known? I certainly wouldn’t have known it if I didn’t have an interest in natural history and biology.
The Wellerman
As for those subjects, would you care to share some of your favorite sources?
I mean SAUCES? ?
eh, whatever
I learned it in school, it was in the books and everything. But that wasn’t in the US.
Azhrei Vep
I also learned it in school. In elementary school. It was in the textbooks and everything. In the US. In the southern US, no less. And we suck at educating kids down here.
The only Sex Ed I had was in DoD schools outside of the US. During the 1970s so it was scientific about the process of pregnancy, and silent on the bits about relationships. And naturally LGBTQ did not exist in that education.
same. i live in France. i wouldn’t say biology was “well taught” to me, but i def learned about puberty and reproduction fairly early on (i want to say it in 7-8th grade. i also remember having sex ed one time in 8th grade, in a catholic school no less, and while i forget the detail i do remember we were explained how to put on a condom, so while that’s a low bar, it still beats pro-life, abstinence-only “””sex ed””” as i understand many american kids are still subjected to.)
hah, actually now i remember our biology teacher showing us a graphic video of a person giving birth in…was it 6th grade? maybe 7th. we were all pretty yucked out and there were rumours of kids fainting in other classes (probably not true, but it was pretty intense). i liked that teacher, she was hard-boiled. i guess she was like, “miracle of life my ass, this is what we’re talking about, kids, okay? now, this is what a condom looks like…”
Tim
I went to Catholic school in Missouri. We had a decent sex ed. Probably not the best, and not the worst. Condoms were explained to us, I don’t recall if they were shown to us. Though they did emphasize the failure rates of different forms of birth control. In reality my Catholic education was fairly liberal. The hard core Catholics joined the Pro-Life Club.
Yumi
It seems like a basic thing to know to me, but everyone has their gaps in knowledge.
A friend loaned me pokemon battle revolution in high school. I offered it back to him and he said I could keep it for as long as I kept playing it. It’s like 13 years later now and honestly even if I wanted to give it back I don’t know where he lives. And I doubt he’d want a WII game in the year of our lord 2021. So yeah, I own it now.
192 thoughts on “Subdued”
Ana Chronistic
[AmericanChopperMemePanel5.jpg] WHAT DID I JUST SAY
Ana Chronistic
SIX, holy dang D=
Needfuldoer
Happy birthday to the twins!
DarkoNeko
Yes, do it. Otherwise, soggy may rule
Rose by Any Other Name
NO!
**hits deck**
Sirksome
I still don’t believe Liz actually had a ride. She’s walking back to Ball State.
RassilonTDavros
She’s trying to escape the range of Dina’s power
Thag Simmons
Can’t be that far a walk anyways.
Needfuldoer
Only about 110 miles. That’s 10 miles shorter than the car route!
Josh Spicer
Touching the secondary sexual characteristics?
The hell is that a metaphor for?
Delicious Taffy
Titties
Sirksome
This topic is pretty debatable but for my two cents I do think Joe got to second base. Liz’s state of undress implies there was at least a little bit of action before she got nervous.
Josh Spicer
But what makes ’em secondary sexual characteristics?
Slartibeast Button, BIA
These characteristics are particularly evident in the sexually dimorphic phenotypic traits that distinguish the sexes of a species,[3] but unlike the sex organs (primary sex characteristics), are not directly part of the reproductive system.
[…]
In humans, visible secondary sex characteristics include pubic hair, enlarged breasts and widened hips of females, and facial hair and Adam’s apples on males.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sex_characteristic
Josh Spicer
Oh it’s legitimately a question, not her saying something to dodge the obvious question.
*the more you know rainbow*
Regalli
*Cues up the showtunes* Tits and aa~ass!
Sambo
Today I learned that “secondary sexual characteristics” is a scientific term
Thag Simmons
Kind of a necessary thing to have, since sexual dimorphism can vary pretty wildly across species.
Undrave
Like the lipstick on female Wobuffets!
Matthew E Davis
Wait, why is pubic hair on women a secondary sex characteristic, but not on men?
Kavonde
I’m pretty sure it’s a secondary characteristic for humans in general.
thejeff
Yeah, that’s badly phrased in the wiki article. It’s a broad term and it covers both characteristics that distinguish between the sexes and those that develop with puberty.
StClair
The Oxford Comma strikes again!
Thag Simmons
Secondary sexual characteristics are sexually dimorphic traits that are not primary sexual characteristics (which are the reproductive bits)
It’s different depending on what species you’re looking at. For example, the mane of a male lion is a secondary sexual characteristic.
brionl
Puberty makes them SSCs.
Skater Girl
In the terminology of biological science, secondary sex characteristics are those that develop after/during puberty. It’s not a metaphor, Dina is being clinical and using formal language as she usually does.
The Wellerman
Ding ding ding!
StClair
“Did you touch her chest”
Deanatay
*Erin Brockovitch voice* They’re called boobs, Ed.
Agentomega
It’s not a metaphor at all, Dina’s guessing Joe touched Liz’s chest.
Yotomoe
Obviously the sexiest part of a woman is her mind. So y’know the secondary part has to be her chest. Y’know.
The Heart.
The Wellerman
The mind… ?
You said it, not me.
Thag Simmons
Euphemisms aren’t metaphors.
Josh Spicer
Yes, it turns out I was just ignorant.
Agemegos
And technicalisms aren’t euphemisms.
Thag Simmons
There is some overlap there! But technicalism seems more accurate, and I probably would have used it if I knew/remembered it
Agemegos
Yes. The really funny thing is that most of the English and ISV technicalisms for human’s naughty bits aren’t actually the basic Latin words for those things, they are mealy-mouthed Latin euphemisms.
There is an interesting article in Wikipedia about the actual (i.e. obscene) Latin words for the assorted unmentionable bits and acts.
Read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest.
Decidedly Orthogonal
COOL! Thanks mate. TI(shall)L’d.
Yotomoe
“Did you not grope those honkers, as the vernacular usually goes?”
Josh Spicer
Yoto you continue to entertain me on the regular.
Yotomoe
“You in fact did not, squeeze those melons, smush those sweater puppies, Ponder those orbs, grab her chesticles, or descend down into marshmallow hell?”
I’m gonna start headcannoning that Dina’s just a gal who finds boobs super neat.The Wellerman
Why do they call it “marshmallow hell”?
Robbie
Wait is ponder the orbs a euphemism people actually use? Asking for an autistic ace … Who is me.
The Wellerman
Well a quick search says it’s a meme that’s like a day old, so no not a lot of people use it. I think.
Robbie
I’ve definitely seen the meme about wizards and orbs but I never thought it had anything to do with boobs.
Yotomoe
I literally just made it up.
The Wellerman
I still can’t get wrap my marshmallow around the head thing.
I mean my head around the marshmallow thing.
Wasn’t “Marshmallow” the name of a stripper from Bob’s Burgers?
Yotomoe
Marshmallow hell is an anime term usually referring to when a characters has their head fully immersed in someone’s breasts. Marshmallow because of the softness of boobs, and Hell because they probably can’t breathe in there.
Man I wanna go to marshmallow hell.The Wellerman
Hey if that’s what you call marshmallow hell, than what do you call a smore? ? ?
ValdVin
Marshmallow, in the Burgerverse, is not an exotic dancer , but I think a courtesan (also, correct as necessary) (using certain words from my work computer).
“Why do they call you Marshmallow?”
“Because if I see a sweet potato pie, I am all over it!”
Robbie
I’m relieved I haven’t been missing the point of all the weird orb pondering tweets all week lol
The Wellerman
I totally feel you on that one bruh, only for Willis’s bonus comics. I’m actually not that much into memes.
Matthew E Davis
Well, canon seems to be that she and Becky haven’t done anything with the primary sex charactistics, so there has to be _something_ that attracts her physically, I’d think.
eh, whatever
No, why? Dina is in love. That doesn’t require any sexual attraction.
StClair
Now try explaining that to Becky.
RedCat
Doesn’t everyone like boobs?
Alanari
It’s not a metaphor. Secondary sexual characteristics are those things that evolve during puberty. Like, stuff that is not exactly necessary for reproduction but makes you look male or female. In this setting, her breast and maybe her behind.
The Wellerman
Honestly I am intrigued on how many of you didn’t know what “secondary sex characteristics” mean. ?
Agemegos
Well, a lot of people forget what they learn in school anyway, but I don’t think biology is often well taught in American schools.
Thag Simmons
I don’t think it’s that commonly known? I certainly wouldn’t have known it if I didn’t have an interest in natural history and biology.
The Wellerman
As for those subjects, would you care to share some of your favorite sources?
I mean SAUCES? ?
eh, whatever
I learned it in school, it was in the books and everything. But that wasn’t in the US.
Azhrei Vep
I also learned it in school. In elementary school. It was in the textbooks and everything. In the US. In the southern US, no less. And we suck at educating kids down here.
Opus the Poet
The only Sex Ed I had was in DoD schools outside of the US. During the 1970s so it was scientific about the process of pregnancy, and silent on the bits about relationships. And naturally LGBTQ did not exist in that education.
milu
same. i live in France. i wouldn’t say biology was “well taught” to me, but i def learned about puberty and reproduction fairly early on (i want to say it in 7-8th grade. i also remember having sex ed one time in 8th grade, in a catholic school no less, and while i forget the detail i do remember we were explained how to put on a condom, so while that’s a low bar, it still beats pro-life, abstinence-only “””sex ed””” as i understand many american kids are still subjected to.)
milu
hah, actually now i remember our biology teacher showing us a graphic video of a person giving birth in…was it 6th grade? maybe 7th. we were all pretty yucked out and there were rumours of kids fainting in other classes (probably not true, but it was pretty intense). i liked that teacher, she was hard-boiled. i guess she was like, “miracle of life my ass, this is what we’re talking about, kids, okay? now, this is what a condom looks like…”
Tim
I went to Catholic school in Missouri. We had a decent sex ed. Probably not the best, and not the worst. Condoms were explained to us, I don’t recall if they were shown to us. Though they did emphasize the failure rates of different forms of birth control. In reality my Catholic education was fairly liberal. The hard core Catholics joined the Pro-Life Club.
Yumi
It seems like a basic thing to know to me, but everyone has their gaps in knowledge.
StClair
not so much “intrigued” as “surprised and dismayed”. but I guess I shouldn’t be, with education being what it is.
Mr. Random
That’s a good question.
How long after you’re told to hold something do you just…. own it?
Yotomoe
A friend loaned me pokemon battle revolution in high school. I offered it back to him and he said I could keep it for as long as I kept playing it. It’s like 13 years later now and honestly even if I wanted to give it back I don’t know where he lives. And I doubt he’d want a WII game in the year of our lord 2021. So yeah, I own it now.
Decidedly Orthogonal
But are you still playing it?
Yotomoe
I am not :c.
Mano308gts