(Remember how I said that Monday's strip was supposed run the previous Friday but I'd miscounted strips? Casualty of that, this wasn't supposed to be this weekend's cliffhanger, either. Whoops!)
NO! YOU’RE JUST SEEING THINGS! You’re clearly delusional. QUICK! What’s 2+2? Why is the sky blue? Why do fools fall in love? If Liquid and Solid Snake are twins, then how come they have different voice actors?
Bill M.
Solid, Liquid, and Solidus are surviving fraternal octuplets, not identical twins.
ACTUALLY WAIT! We’re both wrong. Solid and Liquid are twins and came first from the original batch of clones. Solidus came a bit later, but the amount of time given is not specific (I looked this up on the MGS4 database.)
Bill M.
My bad then, I never played 4. I knew that Solid & Liquid were part of the Les Enfants Terribles, of which there were 8 children made, and Solid & Liquid were the only ones that survived to childbirth. When Solidus appeared, I thought he was one of the others that was reported aborted, but wasn’t. My bad.
No, it just means he’s an American. Most American parents choose to circumcise their boy infants. That’s not so much the case in Europe.
addude
really?!
jaredTSF
fo’ sho’
landbasered
yep.
There are all kinds of horrible websites out there that profit over this idiotic tradition, from synthetic foreskins to skin stretchers.
Oh, america…
Everyl
Circumcision was popularized in America in the late 1800s as a way to prevent boys from masturbating. The surgery is routinely performed on newborns, often without anesthesia.
Fun fact: Partial circumcision is becoming popular among young adults in Japan. Marketing targeted at young women has convinced a large portion of the population that a full-length foreskin is an unhealthy, unsightly deformity that should be surgically “corrected.” Thus, there is a booming demand among men who would like to sleep with young women to get circumcision surgery, an expensive procedure.
And now you know even MORE than you ever wanted to know about the subject!
Doom Shepherd
Also, smegma. (What builds up when the uncircumcised do not clean themselves properly.)
Where did you think the Red Dwarf expression “smeg head” came from?
Seriously, some teenage males are unhygenic enough *without* adding that to the mix.
Ozzmandius
In response to AIDS being less common amongst circumcised people, I also read that there are other sorts of diseases that are MORE common amongst those who are circumcised. Don’t know how legit it is.
I still prefer un though. 😛
Ozzmandius
Annnnd I replied to the wrong thread. lol
Pandaburn
Everyl, that’s one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard! Especially since it stifles my hopes of sleeping with a young Japanese woman!
Reboot
Reminds me of the S*P arc where Davan’s girlfriend wouldn’t shut up about the superiority of uncircumcised penises.
*is European :D*
addude
why would people get their kids sniped if not for religious reasons?
roguebfl
In my case my mother worked as a nurse in a geriatric ward, and saw a whole hosted of issues she could avoid for me with a prosedute I’ll never remember.
The US circumcision rate is apparently dropping, but, some people get it done just because it’s tradition. I’ve heard of parents saying that they want their son’s penis to look like his dad’s or something creepy like that.
No0ne
@ R
That makes carved in the image of his father have a whole new meaning…
Basically, about a hundred years ago, there were some doctors who thought circumcision led to better health, or at least to less masturbation, which more or less amounted to the same thing in their eyes. It was the sort of quackery that America has always embraced more readily than Europe, but it’s proved unusually long-lasting.
Dragdamar
Yeah, Europeans at the time was too busy murdering each other to accept circumcision as a common practice.
Shift
@addude: Its considered by many doctors (or at least was) to be a hygienic thing. Stuff can get… er… dirty and smelly under that, if not cleaned properly… ew. Mental image at my own answer.
Ruri
@addude: I know you meant snipped,but I got a good case of the giggles at the thought of parents hiring hitmen to snipe at their kids for religious reasons =p
Shade
So glad I was born in Australia, Americans are just wierd.
@Shift I never got that argument, it gets dity you clean it. How could people not figure that out?
The practice was invented a few thousand years ago in arid regions where water to wash sand out of your ding-dong could be harder to come by than a good knife, so it made sense then and there. The rest can be summarized, in one word, as “conservatism”.
Ozzmandius
*Not American*
So glad for this reason.
Wrigglesby
As an American, I kinda like bein’ snipped. It makes me exotic when I go abroad.
In response to all ya’ll non-Americans, I shall play “America! Fuck yeah!” from Team America: World Police all day long.
begbert2
I had precisely zero discussions about wang maintenance with my parents – being religious, the only wang-related subject they ever discussed was abstinence. America is riddled with parents as religious (and sexually uncommunicative) as mine.
So we’ve ruled out being *taught* to wash, when, or (to the degree there are any specific details that need to be attended to) how. Could each kid figure it out? On their own initiative? Of course they could, at least the 50% above average IQ. But will they?
Rayri
My parents were -somewhat- open, and they aren’t all absistency, but most of what I know about sex comes from some porno writing my mom bought me thinking it was fantasy 😛
Tenn
First I thought Walky said “circumcised”. Then I thought it was a typo. Then I thought Walky had lived an extremely sheltered life. Then I thought he had suddenly turned Jewish. Then I thought he was just retarded.
…I mean, how can a boy grow up not knowing what an uncircumcised penis looks like? Doesn’t the brain atrophy after a few years without that knowledge? 😉
Serious question: If it is so common in America, then why are there so many American jokes about it being typically jewish?
cracker.please
Because JEWS, man. Come on.
And an fyi for all the “circumcision is super terrible!” peeps: y’all saw the study that demonstrated that circumcision reduces transmission of AIDS by 50%, right? Yeah, apparently HIV loves foreskin. Odd but true.
Jason
An FYI back at you- I’ve dated two circumcised guys (one of whom I am now engaged to). Both practiced safe sex, and both had trouble orgasming because of the operation.
And both had had to have the operation as babies/children due to, er, problems (as opposed to religion, as neither set of parents were religious.) As a European, the idea of removing a part of your child for religious reasons, or even worse “just because”, or worst yet in order to reduce their sexual pleasure later in life, is horrifying to me. Treating it as normal and okay just makes it worse. And yes, that is the reason it reduces masturbation.
Okay, commenting on an old strip, but it’s something I had to get off my chest.
Adam Black
Cancer seems to love breasts, we dont remove them on baby girls.
Also those studies are in in places that dont have running water.
When you compare western countries the difference in rates disappears.
What you dont know is that the rates of permanent genital damage, death and even complete penis loss from infant circumcision is about the same the rates of STDS and problems from being intact.
Modern male circumcision ( full foreskinectomy ) isnt Biblical either.
The original operation was a more minor cut. It was radically changed So jews couldnt pretend to be Greeks .
Its unethical and closer in tissue loss to the less extreme version ( removal of prepuce ) than many people know. The majority of the most sensitive skin on the penis is removed
#NoCirc
Kamino Neko
Because it didn’t used to be common, and those are OOOOOLD jokes.
Plus, if you’re not cut, you’re clearly NOT Jewish.
Parkaboy
50% is an odd I wouln’d be willing to risk, so using a condom still seems a much safer and more pleasant alternative to mutilation.
And about the hygiene argument, it’s so damn easy to clean it, I don’t see the point. I mean, would you cut off your ear so you don’t have to wash it?
Shade
@Cracker: Now the flaw with that argument is that any time that 60% protection for the GUY is relevant. The 99.99% of the condom should be used or shouldn’t happen at all.
cracker.please
@Shade/Parka
Should a condom be used in any situation where you don’t have a very strong/valid reason to trust your partner? Absolutely. Will it actually be used 100% of the time in situations other than that? Seriously, have you MET a frat boy/teenager/actually pretty much guys in general? Not really a good bet to make, IMO. If I ever have a son, I’m planning on getting him snipped, and a significant part of that will be wanting to protect him (even if just very partially) from the likelihood that even if he’s a smart guy, he’s still likely to act like a dumbass at least a couple times in his life.
@Parka/everybody else talking about “mutilation”: you know that all this business about how circumcision deadens/reduces sexual feeling/functionality comes from cherrypicking studies from an overall literature that is at best highly conflicted and inconclusive… right?
Shift
I think the Jewish cut-dick jokes is because it’s something Jews do because its part of their faith. Babies pop out, they have a big party where the entire family shows up and watch as a rabbi has himself a time of removing foreskin. It was a long standing tradition/right of passage that was adapted by everyone else. I’m not sure WHY they do it, but it’s their faith.
Its that old comedy thing: Penis + Religion = Comedy. Or a religious scandal and at least one person traumatized.
@Cracker.Please:
I had a look at that trial. Yeaaaaahhhhh. They didn’t exactly remove the other variables, did they? All they did was keep tabs on circumcised and uncircumcised men to see how many contracted HIV.
Hardly conclusive.
I would also like to point out that if you have no foreskin, then the head of your penis is exposed to rubbing against the inside of your clothing. This is not comfortable. All you uncircumcised men, try rolling your foreskin back, pulling your trousers up, then going for a jog. Tell me the results.
cracker.please
@MrGBH:
That “trial”, singular? It took me roughly 5 seconds on Google to find a CDC page that refers to at least a couple dozen studies on the topic which show very strong scientific design and that support this finding. Here, have a look for yourself: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm
So… yeah. And while your study on dick-comfort does sound VERY scientific, I can’t really report that it seems to be true in my case. Who knows, maybe I’m just a penile miracle case. I’d be okay with that. 😀
@Shift:
The religious explanation is that this was something God told Abraham to do to himself to mark their covenant. Since that covenant is seen as extending down the line to the Jews of today, the men of the Jewish faith do the same.
Blur
I don’t get what the problem is. I’m circumcised and have no problem with it, whatsoever. Didn’t know what an uncircumcised one looked like until I started viewing porn when I got older. To me the uncircumcised penis looks like something alien and disgusting, but that’s because I’m so used to mine.
“America! Fuck yeah!”
Magnus369
Honestly, I didn’t know what one looked like before joining the army. It wasn’t that I made an effort to look at other wang (and hell, I never freaking realized what foreskin was) I thought some of the guys in my unit either had some kinda freaky ass disease or were deformed. Seriously, 3 am, lights come on, and some moron drops off his bunk, wang winds up about 3 feet from my face. All I can think is… why the fuck is there some kinda alien worm here… holy shit, that’s some dude’s junk! HOLY SHIT WTF IS WRONG WITH HIS JOHNSON?!
And about 18 hours later I’m off duty on a weekend pass, drinking myself stupid while my girl laughs her ass off. Needless to say, she apparently wasn’t as “sheltered” as I had been.
ender1200
As an israely person i still don’t know what an uncircumsied penis looks like.
I didn’t even know I was circumcised until I saw a picture of an uncircumcised one. It was a life changing event that caused me to question everything that I knew… until a picture of boobs drew my attention away.
We didn’t have changing areas. There was just a place to hang clothes right outside the shower stall (if you wore clothes down to the shower at all. The result was a naked guys in the hallways clutching at towels.
This is what I mean. I NEVER had to deal with this. The dorms I had (Albright College in Reading, just so we know) had seperate showers. Nobody was clumped into this whole awkward situation of seeing someone in the buff.
188 thoughts on “Snipped”
The A.D.D. Kidd
Walky looks funny with bedhead. And besides that, he looks a bit, distressed from seeing things… (also, I am praying I’m NOT first.)
The A.D.D. Kidd
So I see Willis went and deleted my resonnse of stupidity over this fact. Clever girl… Er… I mean dude…
David Herbert
I knew there was something different about him.
The A.D.D. Kidd
NO! YOU’RE JUST SEEING THINGS! You’re clearly delusional. QUICK! What’s 2+2? Why is the sky blue? Why do fools fall in love? If Liquid and Solid Snake are twins, then how come they have different voice actors?
Bill M.
Solid, Liquid, and Solidus are surviving fraternal octuplets, not identical twins.
The A.D.D. Kidd
I know. It’s a line from somewhere, but I forget.
The A.D.D. Kidd
ACTUALLY WAIT! We’re both wrong. Solid and Liquid are twins and came first from the original batch of clones. Solidus came a bit later, but the amount of time given is not specific (I looked this up on the MGS4 database.)
Bill M.
My bad then, I never played 4. I knew that Solid & Liquid were part of the Les Enfants Terribles, of which there were 8 children made, and Solid & Liquid were the only ones that survived to childbirth. When Solidus appeared, I thought he was one of the others that was reported aborted, but wasn’t. My bad.
The A.D.D. Kidd
Eh it’s fine. Oh and the MGS4 database is free on PSN, so you don’t need MGS4 to use it, that is if you want to use it.
sreiches
It’s something crazy, like Solidus is an exact clone as opposed to a modified one.
arjay2813
took a shower at the same time as joe, huh?
addude
if Joe is jewish wouldn’t he be circumcised? Does that mean Walky is jewish in this world?
R
No, it just means he’s an American. Most American parents choose to circumcise their boy infants. That’s not so much the case in Europe.
addude
really?!
jaredTSF
fo’ sho’
landbasered
yep.
There are all kinds of horrible websites out there that profit over this idiotic tradition, from synthetic foreskins to skin stretchers.
Oh, america…
Everyl
Circumcision was popularized in America in the late 1800s as a way to prevent boys from masturbating. The surgery is routinely performed on newborns, often without anesthesia.
Fun fact: Partial circumcision is becoming popular among young adults in Japan. Marketing targeted at young women has convinced a large portion of the population that a full-length foreskin is an unhealthy, unsightly deformity that should be surgically “corrected.” Thus, there is a booming demand among men who would like to sleep with young women to get circumcision surgery, an expensive procedure.
And now you know even MORE than you ever wanted to know about the subject!
Doom Shepherd
Also, smegma. (What builds up when the uncircumcised do not clean themselves properly.)
Where did you think the Red Dwarf expression “smeg head” came from?
Seriously, some teenage males are unhygenic enough *without* adding that to the mix.
Ozzmandius
In response to AIDS being less common amongst circumcised people, I also read that there are other sorts of diseases that are MORE common amongst those who are circumcised. Don’t know how legit it is.
I still prefer un though. 😛
Ozzmandius
Annnnd I replied to the wrong thread. lol
Pandaburn
Everyl, that’s one of the saddest things I’ve ever heard! Especially since it stifles my hopes of sleeping with a young Japanese woman!
Reboot
Reminds me of the S*P arc where Davan’s girlfriend wouldn’t shut up about the superiority of uncircumcised penises.
*is European :D*
addude
why would people get their kids sniped if not for religious reasons?
roguebfl
In my case my mother worked as a nurse in a geriatric ward, and saw a whole hosted of issues she could avoid for me with a prosedute I’ll never remember.
Mader
Ever heard about phimosis?
R
The US circumcision rate is apparently dropping, but, some people get it done just because it’s tradition. I’ve heard of parents saying that they want their son’s penis to look like his dad’s or something creepy like that.
No0ne
@ R
That makes carved in the image of his father have a whole new meaning…
Baf
Basically, about a hundred years ago, there were some doctors who thought circumcision led to better health, or at least to less masturbation, which more or less amounted to the same thing in their eyes. It was the sort of quackery that America has always embraced more readily than Europe, but it’s proved unusually long-lasting.
Dragdamar
Yeah, Europeans at the time was too busy murdering each other to accept circumcision as a common practice.
Shift
@addude: Its considered by many doctors (or at least was) to be a hygienic thing. Stuff can get… er… dirty and smelly under that, if not cleaned properly… ew. Mental image at my own answer.
Ruri
@addude: I know you meant snipped,but I got a good case of the giggles at the thought of parents hiring hitmen to snipe at their kids for religious reasons =p
Shade
So glad I was born in Australia, Americans are just wierd.
@Shift I never got that argument, it gets dity you clean it. How could people not figure that out?
Jenny Creed
The practice was invented a few thousand years ago in arid regions where water to wash sand out of your ding-dong could be harder to come by than a good knife, so it made sense then and there. The rest can be summarized, in one word, as “conservatism”.
Ozzmandius
*Not American*
So glad for this reason.
Wrigglesby
As an American, I kinda like bein’ snipped. It makes me exotic when I go abroad.
The A.D.D. Kidd
In response to all ya’ll non-Americans, I shall play “America! Fuck yeah!” from Team America: World Police all day long.
begbert2
I had precisely zero discussions about wang maintenance with my parents – being religious, the only wang-related subject they ever discussed was abstinence. America is riddled with parents as religious (and sexually uncommunicative) as mine.
So we’ve ruled out being *taught* to wash, when, or (to the degree there are any specific details that need to be attended to) how. Could each kid figure it out? On their own initiative? Of course they could, at least the 50% above average IQ. But will they?
Rayri
My parents were -somewhat- open, and they aren’t all absistency, but most of what I know about sex comes from some porno writing my mom bought me thinking it was fantasy 😛
Tenn
First I thought Walky said “circumcised”. Then I thought it was a typo. Then I thought Walky had lived an extremely sheltered life. Then I thought he had suddenly turned Jewish. Then I thought he was just retarded.
…I mean, how can a boy grow up not knowing what an uncircumcised penis looks like? Doesn’t the brain atrophy after a few years without that knowledge? 😉
Serious question: If it is so common in America, then why are there so many American jokes about it being typically jewish?
cracker.please
Because JEWS, man. Come on.
And an fyi for all the “circumcision is super terrible!” peeps: y’all saw the study that demonstrated that circumcision reduces transmission of AIDS by 50%, right? Yeah, apparently HIV loves foreskin. Odd but true.
Jason
An FYI back at you- I’ve dated two circumcised guys (one of whom I am now engaged to). Both practiced safe sex, and both had trouble orgasming because of the operation.
And both had had to have the operation as babies/children due to, er, problems (as opposed to religion, as neither set of parents were religious.) As a European, the idea of removing a part of your child for religious reasons, or even worse “just because”, or worst yet in order to reduce their sexual pleasure later in life, is horrifying to me. Treating it as normal and okay just makes it worse. And yes, that is the reason it reduces masturbation.
Okay, commenting on an old strip, but it’s something I had to get off my chest.
Adam Black
Cancer seems to love breasts, we dont remove them on baby girls.
Also those studies are in in places that dont have running water.
When you compare western countries the difference in rates disappears.
What you dont know is that the rates of permanent genital damage, death and even complete penis loss from infant circumcision is about the same the rates of STDS and problems from being intact.
Modern male circumcision ( full foreskinectomy ) isnt Biblical either.
The original operation was a more minor cut. It was radically changed So jews couldnt pretend to be Greeks .
Its unethical and closer in tissue loss to the less extreme version ( removal of prepuce ) than many people know. The majority of the most sensitive skin on the penis is removed
#NoCirc
Kamino Neko
Because it didn’t used to be common, and those are OOOOOLD jokes.
Plus, if you’re not cut, you’re clearly NOT Jewish.
Parkaboy
50% is an odd I wouln’d be willing to risk, so using a condom still seems a much safer and more pleasant alternative to mutilation.
And about the hygiene argument, it’s so damn easy to clean it, I don’t see the point. I mean, would you cut off your ear so you don’t have to wash it?
Shade
@Cracker: Now the flaw with that argument is that any time that 60% protection for the GUY is relevant. The 99.99% of the condom should be used or shouldn’t happen at all.
cracker.please
@Shade/Parka
Should a condom be used in any situation where you don’t have a very strong/valid reason to trust your partner? Absolutely. Will it actually be used 100% of the time in situations other than that? Seriously, have you MET a frat boy/teenager/actually pretty much guys in general? Not really a good bet to make, IMO. If I ever have a son, I’m planning on getting him snipped, and a significant part of that will be wanting to protect him (even if just very partially) from the likelihood that even if he’s a smart guy, he’s still likely to act like a dumbass at least a couple times in his life.
@Parka/everybody else talking about “mutilation”: you know that all this business about how circumcision deadens/reduces sexual feeling/functionality comes from cherrypicking studies from an overall literature that is at best highly conflicted and inconclusive… right?
Shift
I think the Jewish cut-dick jokes is because it’s something Jews do because its part of their faith. Babies pop out, they have a big party where the entire family shows up and watch as a rabbi has himself a time of removing foreskin. It was a long standing tradition/right of passage that was adapted by everyone else. I’m not sure WHY they do it, but it’s their faith.
Its that old comedy thing: Penis + Religion = Comedy. Or a religious scandal and at least one person traumatized.
MrGBH
@Cracker.Please:
I had a look at that trial. Yeaaaaahhhhh. They didn’t exactly remove the other variables, did they? All they did was keep tabs on circumcised and uncircumcised men to see how many contracted HIV.
Hardly conclusive.
I would also like to point out that if you have no foreskin, then the head of your penis is exposed to rubbing against the inside of your clothing. This is not comfortable. All you uncircumcised men, try rolling your foreskin back, pulling your trousers up, then going for a jog. Tell me the results.
cracker.please
@MrGBH:
That “trial”, singular? It took me roughly 5 seconds on Google to find a CDC page that refers to at least a couple dozen studies on the topic which show very strong scientific design and that support this finding. Here, have a look for yourself: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm
So… yeah. And while your study on dick-comfort does sound VERY scientific, I can’t really report that it seems to be true in my case. Who knows, maybe I’m just a penile miracle case. I’d be okay with that. 😀
sreiches
@Shift:
The religious explanation is that this was something God told Abraham to do to himself to mark their covenant. Since that covenant is seen as extending down the line to the Jews of today, the men of the Jewish faith do the same.
Blur
I don’t get what the problem is. I’m circumcised and have no problem with it, whatsoever. Didn’t know what an uncircumcised one looked like until I started viewing porn when I got older. To me the uncircumcised penis looks like something alien and disgusting, but that’s because I’m so used to mine.
“America! Fuck yeah!”
Magnus369
Honestly, I didn’t know what one looked like before joining the army. It wasn’t that I made an effort to look at other wang (and hell, I never freaking realized what foreskin was) I thought some of the guys in my unit either had some kinda freaky ass disease or were deformed. Seriously, 3 am, lights come on, and some moron drops off his bunk, wang winds up about 3 feet from my face. All I can think is… why the fuck is there some kinda alien worm here… holy shit, that’s some dude’s junk! HOLY SHIT WTF IS WRONG WITH HIS JOHNSON?!
And about 18 hours later I’m off duty on a weekend pass, drinking myself stupid while my girl laughs her ass off. Needless to say, she apparently wasn’t as “sheltered” as I had been.
ender1200
As an israely person i still don’t know what an uncircumsied penis looks like.
Jen Aside
HOT CHICK IN THE LOBBY!
…oh, wait
MLEst1
People shower in your lobby? Must be an interesting building 😉
No0ne
Its really a Brothel, but don’t tell Jen Aside that…
Someone
I remember that realization. I thought mine was broken or something :/
Malph
I didn’t even know I was circumcised until I saw a picture of an uncircumcised one. It was a life changing event that caused me to question everything that I knew… until a picture of boobs drew my attention away.
Jess
I’m sorry, but your comment made me think that both instances were on the same picture. XP
JackNapier
Welcome to communal showers, Walky. Unnerving, innit?
Jen Aside
A second look suggests he’s leaving the shower, then happens to look back in and see foreskin… uh.
Fissioninferno
Walky is now a man
He can now do great things
Like vote
No0ne
Thanks for the nightmare fuel…
Ragnal
Never had to deal with this. All the showers at my dorm had a curtain in front of the changing area.
jaredTSF
It’s awkward, you can’t look each other in the eyes, but you also can’t look down at their junk. The whole timeyour just staring at other mens nipples
landbasered
the fact your avatar is female makes me think of beautiful, dirty things
Kokopure
me too, until “other mens’ nipples”. thaaaaat sorta killed it for me.
CJ
We didn’t have changing areas. There was just a place to hang clothes right outside the shower stall (if you wore clothes down to the shower at all. The result was a naked guys in the hallways clutching at towels.
Winter was the worst…
Ragnal
This is what I mean. I NEVER had to deal with this. The dorms I had (Albright College in Reading, just so we know) had seperate showers. Nobody was clumped into this whole awkward situation of seeing someone in the buff.
jaredTSF
It was JROTC for me. And we all hadn’t showered for about a week and a half. We were on a FTX.
Ruler Bulon
I, for one, am on the edge of my seat. What could it possibly look like?
R
You know, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one either.
goldie
google image search? (…i’m not looking though)
R
Not really interested in seeing one – thanks though.