Take my imaginary upvote. And you’re not the only one wanting DoA on the big or little screen. The big problem is going to be getting the right VAs for the speaking parts.
Right? Raidah comes off like Pizzazz trying to drop a lighting rig on the Holograms because that’s what the plot demands. It’s all too dumb to be realistic.
And then I remember that “too dumb to be realistic” is kind of the timeline I’m living in.
i don’t think sarah even cares that he’s the dean’s son, not like it’d be ‘useful’ now other than putting in a good word but other than ‘needing’ connections or so in teh future i’d hope she’d wanna earn her own spot in the law school world or so
Exactly. Sarah is enjoying his company for who Tony is as a person, not who he’s from. And likewise Tony with her.
Vanessa Pinter
This is why Sarah is a better person than Raidah even if they have both done some bad things. Raidah would have sabotaged her own relationship with her own hunk once he realized a) his family wouldn’t approve of someone who doesn’t go to their church b) his family would have instinctively recoiled from her naked social climbing and ass-kissing c) she didn’t actually know him or like him or enjoy his company.
BBCC
Why are we assuming Jacob’s family would care she’s Muslim?
Mark
Because “their church”, and in this comments section that’s what churches do: disapprove people.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Churches disapproving of people is hardly limited to this comment section. In fact they tend to be very VERY vocal about it.
thejeff
Some do, but not all. I mean, Jacob himself is Christian and didn’t disapprove of Raidah because she was Muslim. Why do we assume his family would?
Just looking at how happy her ex is with Lucy should have been a clue, Radiah didn’t make him happy at all.
Phyllis
Yeah, he probably thought he was happy with Raidah (I’m sure she was quite good at the physical side of the relationship), but as soon as Jacob’s brother complimented him on not being a carbon copy of himself (https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/aslongas/), he realized that Raidah wasn’t really what he wanted.
Adept
I think there wasn’t much of a ”physical side” since Jacob wanted to take things much slower than Raidah.
Raidahs not the type to march right up to them and start being messy. That’d make her look unequivocally in the wrong to Tony. She’s more slick than that, she needs a plan
not march up but I could see her wasting time spying on them or trying to throw another girl at Tony or talking about the old Dana story again.
Julez
Telling the Dana story backfires, as Reasonable, Responsible Tony thinks that Sarah was right to call the girl’s family to get her help, and smoking (at the time at least) illegal substances on campus is bad.
Raidah knows she is the arbiter of reality. What she decides isn’t possible, isn’t possible. This is why she knew for certain that Sarah overreacted in contacting Dana’s father, because Raidah knew that Dana’s problems *couldn’t* be that bad.
We still don’t know that Dana going back to her dad wasn’t a bad thing.
BBCC
Maybe it was, but there weren’t really any great options there that anyone’s been able to suggest.
Mr D
Aight but, upon lack of evidence that Dana going back to her dad being bad, I will assume that it was just Raidah being a massive raging asswipe.
Like, every single thing we’ve seen of Raidah for years now has shown that she doesn’t care about “friends”, she cares about connections. One of the very first things she told Sarah back when they were “friendly” was that being at university was more about building up their connections rather than getting a degree, that without connections, she’d just be an overqualified burger flipper.
Axel
Also all Sarah and Raidah exchanged was
“Dana is in a better place.”
“Not according to Dana, last I checked.”
Nothing about her being unsafe at home. I’d be fuckin miserable if I had to move back home from college and would complain like all hell, but it wouldn’t mean it was worse than being at suicide risk.
Axel
Just double checked that the ‘her home is not safe!’ line is about Ruth, not Dana
Luminous Lead
They’re both kind of right if we bend Radiah’s response to the metaphorical.
It’s just that if Dana was “in a better place” (dead, in this metaphor) she wouldn’t be able to communicate this to Radiah.
zee
Are you running an MLP ttrpg? Because if so I wanna hear about it
We literally only have Raidah’s word that Dana’s parents aren’t safe for her. Which, I’m willing to buy it, but it’s also entirely possible Dana’s private Hell is just not having access to powerful people and that’s Raidah’s worst nightmare.
What’s funny is, I think Dana was Carl‘s friend, not Raidah’s. Carl is the one who’s confident Dana is going to just bounce back just like those other times her mom died; Raidah has no comment. Of course nobody but Sarah has any idea Dana is getting stoned around the clock, but Raidah seems especially clueless. She was never there when Dana needed help, she’s only ever been giving a shit when it comes to bothering Sarah.
I mean, here we see her actively scheming against Dean Junior. Working with Jennifer Drama Hurricane Billingsworth to sabotage his relationship. This is extremely unlikely going to hurt Sarah but it’s guaranteed to torpedo Raidah’s social standing. Her grudge is actually more important to her than her much vaunted future career.
Axel
She also, as far as I can find, didn’t say it was unsafe, just that according to Dana, wasn’t in a better place being home with her dad. That can mean a lot of different things.
Mark
I have been reading down this thread and wondering where Raidah gets her information about Dana’s home situation. Like: is it all from a girl who is constantly complaining about how her parents are always at her about the drugs? Her information may be a teeny bit biased.
thejeff
And it was phrased as “last I heard”, which doesn’t suggest regular contact
Vanessa Pinter
Probably second-hand from Carl who misses his friend.
thejeff
Maybe, but I’m not sure there’s any reason to think Carl’s in regular contact.
It’s also interesting that Raidah didn’t bring that up again at the lunch with Walky, where anything negative she knew about Dana’s current situation would have been good ammo.
Comic.phile
Raidah doesn’t have friends. She has assets and connections. Sarah cost her a connection- I’m sure Dana had some advantage Raidah wanted to exploit.
thejeff
But we don’t really have any reason to think it was a bad thing. Just hints from Raidah, who’s not exactly a reliable source. Who didn’t even acknowledge that Dana was having any serious trouble in school.
If it comes to trusting Sarah or Raidah on this, I’m 100% behind Sarah.
Given the impending monorail disaster and it’s devastating consequences in the coming years, there will be no going back to “”normal”” afterwards.
I can only imagine how that’s gonna be reflected in the comic’s plot and setting given the sliding timescale. Like imagine being a first-time reader and basically watching decades worth of one of the most tumultuous periods in world history unfold within the span of a couple semesters ?
Discussion (284) - “Crucial”
NGPZ
so Raidah basically thinks she’s the ship gatekeeper, got it 9-9
TrueVCU
Raidah still thinks she’s in some kind of Disney Channel version of high school
Doctor_Who
I think Raidah thinks she’s one of the Heathers.
James
She’s right in everything except scale, honestly.
RARD
Next thing you know she’ll be stocking up on igloo-ger bullets!
Nono
How many musical numbers are we gonna get before the basketball finals?
True Survivor
Not enough. Dumbing of Age – the Musical is the theatrical tour de force needed to bring joy to a darkening world.
Pitch it now, Mr. Willis. Make Winnie Holzman cry tears of envy.
Opus the Poet
Take my imaginary upvote. And you’re not the only one wanting DoA on the big or little screen. The big problem is going to be getting the right VAs for the speaking parts.
TrueVCU
The only correct answer is Jeffrey Combs
Needfuldoer
And/or Frank Welker.
Aquila
Next step : Dumbing on Ice.
DJTsurugi
your… OMG… your grav, saying this… with that face! ~<3
Oatmeal Pie
Right? Raidah comes off like Pizzazz trying to drop a lighting rig on the Holograms because that’s what the plot demands. It’s all too dumb to be realistic.
And then I remember that “too dumb to be realistic” is kind of the timeline I’m living in.
Thag Simmons
I would compare this more to a Feudal Baroness trying to play the game of marriage alliances.
TrueVCU
When you play the game of thrones you win or you die
Archieve
That or a regular old stalker, Radiahs obsession with Sarah’s friends and now love life gets more creepy by the day.
Jamie
A port lock.
anon
i don’t think sarah even cares that he’s the dean’s son, not like it’d be ‘useful’ now other than putting in a good word but other than ‘needing’ connections or so in teh future i’d hope she’d wanna earn her own spot in the law school world or so
Decidedly Orthogonal
Exactly. Sarah is enjoying his company for who Tony is as a person, not who he’s from. And likewise Tony with her.
Vanessa Pinter
This is why Sarah is a better person than Raidah even if they have both done some bad things. Raidah would have sabotaged her own relationship with her own hunk once he realized a) his family wouldn’t approve of someone who doesn’t go to their church b) his family would have instinctively recoiled from her naked social climbing and ass-kissing c) she didn’t actually know him or like him or enjoy his company.
BBCC
Why are we assuming Jacob’s family would care she’s Muslim?
Mark
Because “their church”, and in this comments section that’s what churches do: disapprove people.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Churches disapproving of people is hardly limited to this comment section. In fact they tend to be very VERY vocal about it.
thejeff
Some do, but not all. I mean, Jacob himself is Christian and didn’t disapprove of Raidah because she was Muslim. Why do we assume his family would?
Adept
I remember people defending Raidah, and thinking she’s not a bad person ”just ambitious”. I wonder if this is enough villainy for them finally.
Vanessa Pinter
Just looking at how happy her ex is with Lucy should have been a clue, Radiah didn’t make him happy at all.
Phyllis
Yeah, he probably thought he was happy with Raidah (I’m sure she was quite good at the physical side of the relationship), but as soon as Jacob’s brother complimented him on not being a carbon copy of himself (https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/aslongas/), he realized that Raidah wasn’t really what he wanted.
Adept
I think there wasn’t much of a ”physical side” since Jacob wanted to take things much slower than Raidah.
Joy
I think Raidah is more immature than evil?
Mark
Jennifer: “Did somebody tell me I was supposed to stop Sarah from getting with Tony?”
shadowcell
petition for Raidah in panel 1 as a Gravatar
Jude Deluca
This is far more reserved than I expected for her, so I’m assuming there’s gonna be even more mess before this is over.
Archieve
Yeah, Radiah doesn’t listen to Jennifer so I assume she’s going to try something stupid.
zee
Raidahs not the type to march right up to them and start being messy. That’d make her look unequivocally in the wrong to Tony. She’s more slick than that, she needs a plan
Archieve
not march up but I could see her wasting time spying on them or trying to throw another girl at Tony or talking about the old Dana story again.
Julez
Telling the Dana story backfires, as Reasonable, Responsible Tony thinks that Sarah was right to call the girl’s family to get her help, and smoking (at the time at least) illegal substances on campus is bad.
Nono
Go on Raidah, tell the audience why this can’t happen.
Strain of Thought
Raidah knows she is the arbiter of reality. What she decides isn’t possible, isn’t possible. This is why she knew for certain that Sarah overreacted in contacting Dana’s father, because Raidah knew that Dana’s problems *couldn’t* be that bad.
Charles Phipps
We still don’t know that Dana going back to her dad wasn’t a bad thing.
BBCC
Maybe it was, but there weren’t really any great options there that anyone’s been able to suggest.
Mr D
Aight but, upon lack of evidence that Dana going back to her dad being bad, I will assume that it was just Raidah being a massive raging asswipe.
Like, every single thing we’ve seen of Raidah for years now has shown that she doesn’t care about “friends”, she cares about connections. One of the very first things she told Sarah back when they were “friendly” was that being at university was more about building up their connections rather than getting a degree, that without connections, she’d just be an overqualified burger flipper.
Axel
Also all Sarah and Raidah exchanged was
“Dana is in a better place.”
“Not according to Dana, last I checked.”
Nothing about her being unsafe at home. I’d be fuckin miserable if I had to move back home from college and would complain like all hell, but it wouldn’t mean it was worse than being at suicide risk.
Axel
Just double checked that the ‘her home is not safe!’ line is about Ruth, not Dana
Luminous Lead
They’re both kind of right if we bend Radiah’s response to the metaphorical.
It’s just that if Dana was “in a better place” (dead, in this metaphor) she wouldn’t be able to communicate this to Radiah.
zee
Are you running an MLP ttrpg? Because if so I wanna hear about it
Amelie Wikström
We literally only have Raidah’s word that Dana’s parents aren’t safe for her. Which, I’m willing to buy it, but it’s also entirely possible Dana’s private Hell is just not having access to powerful people and that’s Raidah’s worst nightmare.
What’s funny is, I think Dana was Carl‘s friend, not Raidah’s. Carl is the one who’s confident Dana is going to just bounce back just like those other times her mom died; Raidah has no comment. Of course nobody but Sarah has any idea Dana is getting stoned around the clock, but Raidah seems especially clueless. She was never there when Dana needed help, she’s only ever been giving a shit when it comes to bothering Sarah.
I mean, here we see her actively scheming against Dean Junior. Working with Jennifer Drama Hurricane Billingsworth to sabotage his relationship. This is extremely unlikely going to hurt Sarah but it’s guaranteed to torpedo Raidah’s social standing. Her grudge is actually more important to her than her much vaunted future career.
Axel
She also, as far as I can find, didn’t say it was unsafe, just that according to Dana, wasn’t in a better place being home with her dad. That can mean a lot of different things.
Mark
I have been reading down this thread and wondering where Raidah gets her information about Dana’s home situation. Like: is it all from a girl who is constantly complaining about how her parents are always at her about the drugs? Her information may be a teeny bit biased.
thejeff
And it was phrased as “last I heard”, which doesn’t suggest regular contact
Vanessa Pinter
Probably second-hand from Carl who misses his friend.
thejeff
Maybe, but I’m not sure there’s any reason to think Carl’s in regular contact.
It’s also interesting that Raidah didn’t bring that up again at the lunch with Walky, where anything negative she knew about Dana’s current situation would have been good ammo.
Comic.phile
Raidah doesn’t have friends. She has assets and connections. Sarah cost her a connection- I’m sure Dana had some advantage Raidah wanted to exploit.
thejeff
But we don’t really have any reason to think it was a bad thing. Just hints from Raidah, who’s not exactly a reliable source. Who didn’t even acknowledge that Dana was having any serious trouble in school.
If it comes to trusting Sarah or Raidah on this, I’m 100% behind Sarah.
Doctor_Who
Because it messes up her shipping chart.
Arianod
…is that the same episode from three days ago?
Tofusmith
Maybe because Sarah intentionally sabotaged Raidah’s last relationship, and she wants payback?
Envy
I don’t think Raidah has any confirmation Sarah was involved. Raidah just (rightfully) assumed Sarah was because Joyce is her roommate.
Nono
And even then, Jacob wasn’t blameless in all that.
Archieve
And Radiahs been wanting payback since before she got with Jacob.
Charles Phipps
Raidah saved the world from the Keener Presidency.
She deserves the benefit of the doubt,
Jamie
Honestly, it was weirdly prescient of Willis to predict 2024 like this.
NGPZ
Given the impending monorail disaster and it’s devastating consequences in the coming years, there will be no going back to “”normal”” afterwards.
I can only imagine how that’s gonna be reflected in the comic’s plot and setting given the sliding timescale. Like imagine being a first-time reader and basically watching decades worth of one of the most tumultuous periods in world history unfold within the span of a couple semesters ?
Needfuldoer
Monorail?
I heard those things are awfully loud.
purblebirb
It glides as softly as a cloud!
Freemage
Yeah, we’re so much better off with old dudes who WANT to commit war crimes….
Charles Phipps
We need Justice Dorothy to oppose everything Presidential.
Or as a Fallout-esque protagonist out to blow up the Enclave.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Several Justices Dorothy. We’re way behind on having moderate judges in SCOTUS. (let alone anyone progressive.)
Karla Jean
Jennifer’s not wrong…
True Survivor
Indeed. This relationship is either a dud or a timebomb. She make like Elitzur and Vaidman not directly interact.
Reltzik
Huh.
…. Jennifer actually came up with the right solution for the problem.
HueSatLight
And she’s apparently still an asshole for it.