Honestly, as bad for business as it’d be, I would definitely accept payment in titty pics. There’s like…not a non-predatory sounding way to advertise that service, but I certainly would accept that deal.
NotThatDrew
Just another reason why we should return to the barter system. Such offers would probably become more common
Wagstaff
Technically we are always in a barter system. Money is just the most often traded item due to its fiat.
Rabid Rabbit
Somehow, I read that as “it’s flat,” and that honestly made a lot of sense. In paper form, it’s so easily carried and passed around!
Yotomoe
That’s how I read it too!
Paradox
“Flat”? That’s awesome! And it makes so much sense too! Well played…
ktbear
But arent Fiats like horrible expensive while also being horribly unreliable?
Wagstaff
No, no, no. Modern money is called fiat money because it only has value because of government decree.
Compare with older forms of money, that only had value because they were in the form of coins containing precious or semiprecious metal (usually gold or silver).
Miralelian
*Woosh!*
__|[your head]\__
|–O————–O—\
^
The Fiat convertible you are driving
milu
usually i find woosh comments obnoxious, but your ascii art is stunning, so instead, i think you’re awesome *0*
Demoted Oblivious
First, props to Jason for covering consent AND for bad sms goal tending.
Ya know, if I were driving a convertible, I prolly wouldn’t care if I was being sassed, if something was going over my head, or that it was a Fiat. Especially if Daisy and Ruth were riding with me. So Yoto… do you do commissions? I’ve put on some weight this year and could prolly manage an a- or even a b- cup titty picture. I mean, if you don’t mind ginger chest hair.
Good luck getting THAT image out of your heads y’all! Look dad! I painted a picture and didn’t even lift a brush.
Taellosse
Ah yes, “precious metals,” which we all pretend are not themselves accorded value entirely arbitrarily. The only way in which such materials have inherent value is that a great deal of effort is expended to mine and refine them. But we only bother to invest that labor because we decided they look pretty.
Regardless of what “backs” a given currency, its value is established by a collectively accepted delusion. At bottom, money is a token representing labor (here are my tokens, which I exchange for your own work product). It simplifies trade so direct barter is no longer necessary – otherwise we’d all have to engage in byzantine chains of sequential bartering to trade our narrow skills for all the things we want and need – or all have to give up our specialized expertises and become subsistence farmers or hunter gatherers.
Wizard
My FIAT 124 was pretty reasonably priced, and it’s only been in the shop for anything other than routine maintenance once in 3.5 years. Then again, it was actually built by Mazda. (Yeah I drive an Italian car that was made in Japan.)
khn0
But… the FIAT factories in Turin were instrumental to worker’s power (I mean, literally, potere operaio)
StClair
“The GM/DM drives up in his Fiat and makes a ruling.”
(not my line, but one I’ve heard)
khn0
Yeah, it’s not like there were women’s strikes at home in order to make it clear that they are providing men time/chances to sell their workforce in a untold and unequal barter. Men are women bosses, because women are men’s proletariat, and there wasn’t really a contract between them to give this bater a status… (note I left sex barter out of this, as if we could)
Common sense
Well if we are always in a Barter system
And tittie pics would be a valid thing to barter with.
How exactly would Taxes work in that case?
No, I mean Scovilles are used to measure their spiciness.
Delicious Taffy
Scovilles aren’t spicy, they’re a unit of measurement. More of an abstract concept than a food. The higher your Scoville count, the harder it is to get drunk.
Wagstaff
As UNITS. Where did you get your information about Scovilles in regard to intoxication?
Delicious Taffy
Clif asked about it?
milu
i’ve measured this conversation and it’s 2,5 megascovilles (it’s a unit of roflness i’m specifying just in case cos i’ve seen people get confused)
Deanatay
milu: I see the problem. When measuring roflness, the unit is usually called a SydneyScoville, to alleviate confusion.
StClair
Wagstaff:
I believe that (1) the people you’re responding to are aware of this and (2) you need to check and/or replace your sarcasm detector.
StClair
(as I’ve now seen a couple of posts by you that fit the general pattern of “yes, that’s literally true, but they’re making a joke”.)
milu
i believe that Wagstaff is actually performing mild cluelessness for the benefit of all humankind via hilarity. you understand that Wagstaff can not themself confirm this as they are surely taking their mission too seriously to break character.
Wagstaff
Besides my sense of humor, I mainly seek to benefit the entire human species with the power of science!
Also, this webcomic and its message board are currently among the few things in my life that keep me from going star-craving MAD!
milu
This place is making you LESS mad??!
….relatable.
milu
Also, “star-craving mad” is lovely and suggests some sort of sad and poetic children’s story about an astronomer forced to work in the city, maybe to endlessly feed sheets of meaningless digits to a scary anthropomorphized computer, and there are too many lights and air pollution to see a single star!! Oh no!
Well, I do hope you look after yourself anyway <3
Wagstaff
Thanks milu!
And also, “star-craving mad” is from one of my favorite childhood characters: an undead pirate skeleton who would make up math puzzles with his own bones!
Ohmsford
I thought peppers (like kisses) were measured by the peck
Reltzik
Scovilles are a unit of measurement for profanity per second.
Enkrod
Since Scoville is already used for spicyness, I think those units are called SpS or Sydneys per Second.
Dunno, but you’d better use it, because she’s having none of that Imperial unit shit.
Demoted Oblivious
You’d think a country that fought, won, and celebrate their war of independence would be ALL OVER a different measuring system than that of their IMPERIAL oppressors.
Sure, but since those former oppressors eagerly adopted that alternative system first, we prove our bold independence by retaining the old, outmoded system all sensible nations have long since abandoned.
Also, we’re pretty sure changing now would be a sign of weakness – leaders don’t belatedly do what everyone else does, they stand apart, proud and confident!
I mean Ruth’s the one who even brought up getting laid in the first place so this is a little weird to me that’s she suddenly guilty about not wanting it.
Wouldn’t that be precisely the reason? She brought it up, therefore she feels obliged to go through with it, therefore she feels guilty for not totally wanting to go through with it.
My question is why did she even bring it up? Things were going pretty well before sex was even put on the table at all. It was pretty much established that Daisy is in to her and wants to see her again regardless of if they actually smash or not. But Ruth is drunk so maybe I’m trying to apply more logic to this than she is.
Yotomoe
Things honestly weren’t going all that great. Ruth still had her walls up around her. You can see a huge difference between how she’s opened up to Jason vs. Daisy. Ruth basically offered sex because she’s forcing it. That’s at least my impression. She’s just trying to force herself with another girl who’s nice who she’s not super compatible with but is nice and wants to bone. Daisy’s a rebound.
Sirksome
There are important differences between Ruth and Daisy vs Ruth and Jason. For one Ruth is drunk. She had one shot before they even really started talking and before that she was her usual abrasive self with him. Plus they’ve met before the last time Ruth was here with “Billie”. That’s established familiarity which is much less pressure than a blind first date. Ruth was showing some attraction to Daisy. Enough to proposition her and even now she’s saying she think’s Daisy’s hot. It’s just strange to me that she essentially psyched herself out in the process of trying to psyche herself up when there was no pressure on her to begin with.
Yotomoe
– “She had one shot before they even really started talking and before that she was her usual abrasive self with him.”
Emphasis on “usual”. She’s not trying hard with Jason and that makes all the difference. Ruth feels like she SHOULD have sex with Daisy, but I don’t think she actually WANTS to. Like she wants to but she doesn’t WANT to. There’s instant gratification and then there’s the reality of the situation.
Sirksome
“She want to but she doesn’t want to” See that’s exactly what I’m confused about. Although frankly I’m not sure what Ruth wants even matters at this point because I think she’s past the point where she can even give consent. Which might actually be what she wanted all along. Kind of take the choice away so she doesn’t even have to make it.
Needfuldoer
Ruth’s not entirely over Jennifer yet, and she thinks she’s not good enough for Daisy. Hence the self-sabotage.
Regina phalange
I mean, there’s a million and one reasons for someone to float the possibility of sex and then regret it? The most basic interpretation is that Ruth made a forward and flirty comment to let Daisy know that she was open to sex, and then she got nervous exactly because of how overly excited that made Daisy. At the very least, if you offer something to someone and they basically respond with “I am so grateful that I have lost control of my bowels AND the social awareness that would otherwise stop me from saying that,” wouldn’t you really start to question the offer, or at have some anxiety over whether you just committed to something that’s a way bigger deal than you thought?
That’s not even getting into the million nuances here. Ruth may have been hoping for a fling, and Daisy’s excitement is telling her that she wants more than that (or is reminding Ruth of potential unresolved feelings re: Jennifer), which is making Ruth feel guilty about it. Ruth could just generally be comfortable with romantic partners whom she can idolize (or more generally stand-off-ish partners), so she could be uncomfortable with the the fact that, rather than engage in snarky banter, someone “too hot for her” is THIS excited about sex with her. Hell, she could just be self-sabotaging. There are a legitimately dozens of other reasons I could list for why Ruth would bring this up and is now regretting it.
The fact that Daisy has been in the bathroom so long that Ruth had time to get somewhat drunk probably isn’t helping the doubt, anxiety, and possible regret.
Sirksome
Those are all valid insights. I’m just chalking it up to Ruth probably not being ready to actually date. Jennifer did set this up kind of assuming what Ruth needed. I’m not sure how long Daisy’s supposed to actually be gone on this. It’s weird comic time. It doesn’t take long to down two shots of whiskey. That’s kind of on Ruth. She ordered a drink basically as soon as Daisy was out of line of sight and got drunk almost instantly. Like I said yesterday that’s pretty impressive.
Rabid Rabbit
We have to remember that Jennifer sometimes thinks that casual sex is a good thing*. There’s a strong vibe of “Sure, we broke up, but don’t worry, I’ll get you laid! Sex is the important part, right?” from her. So since she arranged this date, and probably made it fairly clear that she was finagling an easy lay for both Ruth and Daisy (and, let’s be honest, from her point of view it makes sense — she knows Daisy is desperate, Ruth could use it [as she thinks], it’ll all be fine), both Daisy and Ruth probably think of this as equivalent to a Tindr meet-up. Jennifer has promised both of them sex (just not with her), so they sort of both think that’s what’s on the table; not going through with it because of reasons would seem rude, since they both feel they’re meeting on that basis.
Ruth definitely isn’t ready to date, and I think she realizes that; but this isn’t a “Let’s date” date, it’s a “Shall we bump genitals?” date. Because this is Dumbing of Age and everyone is therefore stupid, the fact that not being ready to date might make casual sex not a good idea (for this particular person, in these particular circumstances) might not come across.
*Not saying that casual sex is necessarily a bad idea! Just that Jennifer doesn’t always think things through. It’s not for everyone, or not always. But Head Cheerleader has found what seems to her the ideal situation, so of course she’s going to push it through. Unfortunately, she apparently hasn’t worked out that “So you couldn’t have that guy, go have sex under the bleachers with that one” isn’t necessarily a cure-for-all.
BarerMender
And possibly Daisy had regrets and slipped out the backdoor.
Sunny
I think it’s just that a lot of things slipped out her backdoor and now she’s mentally going through every option for what Ruth might say and how she can respond to that once she gets back there.
I‘m honestly not sure how to read the situation. Is it really Ruth feels obliged to habe sex with Daisy and doesn’t want to, or is it that Ruth would like to have sex, not with Daisy per se, Daisy as a person is still an unknown anyway, but just doesn’t know how that works outside of her usual ways (which involved being very drunk and/or bullying the person before the fact)?
Is this about ongoing consent or freaking on the unknown?
(Not saying it wouldn’t be a bad idea for Ruth to have sex now she‘s drunk, but before she got drunk, what was the real issue?)
Maybe Ruth just isn’t comfortable jumping into bed with someone two hours after meeting them, and is pumping the brakes a bit and would rather wait until the third date or something.
There are some hints that Ruth kind of feels that getting laid with Daisy is something she owes to Jennifer. She doesn’t really want to, and now that it’s obvious how much Daisy wants it the pressure is going up. She is getting (drunkenly) aware that if she sabotages the sex part of this date she will not just failing Jennifer, she will also hurt Daisy. Too much responsibility to mix up with half bottle of whiskey.
232 thoughts on “Pooper”
Ana Chronistic
Jason should point out that titty pics canNOT be withdrawn at any time
Doctor_Who
Nor are they legal tender to pay for whiskey, in case she’s thinking she can kill two birds with one titty.
Yotomoe
Honestly, as bad for business as it’d be, I would definitely accept payment in titty pics. There’s like…not a non-predatory sounding way to advertise that service, but I certainly would accept that deal.
NotThatDrew
Just another reason why we should return to the barter system. Such offers would probably become more common
Wagstaff
Technically we are always in a barter system. Money is just the most often traded item due to its fiat.
Rabid Rabbit
Somehow, I read that as “it’s flat,” and that honestly made a lot of sense. In paper form, it’s so easily carried and passed around!
Yotomoe
That’s how I read it too!
Paradox
“Flat”? That’s awesome! And it makes so much sense too! Well played…
ktbear
But arent Fiats like horrible expensive while also being horribly unreliable?
Wagstaff
No, no, no. Modern money is called fiat money because it only has value because of government decree.
Compare with older forms of money, that only had value because they were in the form of coins containing precious or semiprecious metal (usually gold or silver).
Miralelian
*Woosh!*
__|[your head]\__
|–O————–O—\
^
The Fiat convertible you are driving
milu
usually i find woosh comments obnoxious, but your ascii art is stunning, so instead, i think you’re awesome *0*
Demoted Oblivious
First, props to Jason for covering consent AND for bad sms goal tending.
Ya know, if I were driving a convertible, I prolly wouldn’t care if I was being sassed, if something was going over my head, or that it was a Fiat. Especially if Daisy and Ruth were riding with me. So Yoto… do you do commissions? I’ve put on some weight this year and could prolly manage an a- or even a b- cup titty picture. I mean, if you don’t mind ginger chest hair.
Good luck getting THAT image out of your heads y’all! Look dad! I painted a picture and didn’t even lift a brush.
Taellosse
Ah yes, “precious metals,” which we all pretend are not themselves accorded value entirely arbitrarily. The only way in which such materials have inherent value is that a great deal of effort is expended to mine and refine them. But we only bother to invest that labor because we decided they look pretty.
Regardless of what “backs” a given currency, its value is established by a collectively accepted delusion. At bottom, money is a token representing labor (here are my tokens, which I exchange for your own work product). It simplifies trade so direct barter is no longer necessary – otherwise we’d all have to engage in byzantine chains of sequential bartering to trade our narrow skills for all the things we want and need – or all have to give up our specialized expertises and become subsistence farmers or hunter gatherers.
Wizard
My FIAT 124 was pretty reasonably priced, and it’s only been in the shop for anything other than routine maintenance once in 3.5 years. Then again, it was actually built by Mazda. (Yeah I drive an Italian car that was made in Japan.)
khn0
But… the FIAT factories in Turin were instrumental to worker’s power (I mean, literally, potere operaio)
StClair
“The GM/DM drives up in his Fiat and makes a ruling.”
(not my line, but one I’ve heard)
khn0
Yeah, it’s not like there were women’s strikes at home in order to make it clear that they are providing men time/chances to sell their workforce in a untold and unequal barter. Men are women bosses, because women are men’s proletariat, and there wasn’t really a contract between them to give this bater a status… (note I left sex barter out of this, as if we could)
Common sense
Well if we are always in a Barter system
And tittie pics would be a valid thing to barter with.
How exactly would Taxes work in that case?
Yotomoe
But they can be DRAWN at any time. 😛
Clif
Good point.
Rabid Rabbit
We’re not stopping you.
(In fact, we’re encouraging you. Possibly because we’re terrible people.)
NotThatDrew
Luckily I know of a roof where we’d be welcome
Reltzik
Hypothetically, yes.
… is this more than a hypothetical? If so, please keep us abreast of any such developments.
Demoted Oblivious
I too am interested in the development of these breasts.
Wagstaff
Wow. This provides a very useful metric on her alcohol tolerance.
Clif
What is the metric unit for alcohol tolerance?
Wagstaff
I didn’t mean an exact metric. I just meant that this observation can give us a good idea on just how effective alcohol is for her.
Delicious Taffy
Scovilles.
Wagstaff
Uh…. I think that one’s for peppers.
Delicious Taffy
No, peppers are measured by color.
Wagstaff
No, I mean Scovilles are used to measure their spiciness.
Delicious Taffy
Scovilles aren’t spicy, they’re a unit of measurement. More of an abstract concept than a food. The higher your Scoville count, the harder it is to get drunk.
Wagstaff
As UNITS. Where did you get your information about Scovilles in regard to intoxication?
Delicious Taffy
Clif asked about it?
milu
i’ve measured this conversation and it’s 2,5 megascovilles (it’s a unit of roflness i’m specifying just in case cos i’ve seen people get confused)
Deanatay
milu: I see the problem. When measuring roflness, the unit is usually called a SydneyScoville, to alleviate confusion.
StClair
Wagstaff:
I believe that (1) the people you’re responding to are aware of this and (2) you need to check and/or replace your sarcasm detector.
StClair
(as I’ve now seen a couple of posts by you that fit the general pattern of “yes, that’s literally true, but they’re making a joke”.)
milu
i believe that Wagstaff is actually performing mild cluelessness for the benefit of all humankind via hilarity. you understand that Wagstaff can not themself confirm this as they are surely taking their mission too seriously to break character.
Wagstaff
Besides my sense of humor, I mainly seek to benefit the entire human species with the power of science!
Also, this webcomic and its message board are currently among the few things in my life that keep me from going star-craving MAD!
milu
This place is making you LESS mad??!
….relatable.
milu
Also, “star-craving mad” is lovely and suggests some sort of sad and poetic children’s story about an astronomer forced to work in the city, maybe to endlessly feed sheets of meaningless digits to a scary anthropomorphized computer, and there are too many lights and air pollution to see a single star!! Oh no!
Well, I do hope you look after yourself anyway <3
Wagstaff
Thanks milu!
And also, “star-craving mad” is from one of my favorite childhood characters: an undead pirate skeleton who would make up math puzzles with his own bones!
Ohmsford
I thought peppers (like kisses) were measured by the peck
Reltzik
Scovilles are a unit of measurement for profanity per second.
Enkrod
Since Scoville is already used for spicyness, I think those units are called SpS or Sydneys per Second.
Reltzik
Profanities can be spicy!
Rabid Rabbit
Dunno, but you’d better use it, because she’s having none of that Imperial unit shit.
Demoted Oblivious
You’d think a country that fought, won, and celebrate their war of independence would be ALL OVER a different measuring system than that of their IMPERIAL oppressors.
Ana Chronistic
Up to and until it takes EFFORT
Taellosse
Sure, but since those former oppressors eagerly adopted that alternative system first, we prove our bold independence by retaining the old, outmoded system all sensible nations have long since abandoned.
Also, we’re pretty sure changing now would be a sign of weakness – leaders don’t belatedly do what everyone else does, they stand apart, proud and confident!
Eldritchy
Are we talking per mill?
thejeff
Except that we don’t know how many shots she’s had.
Could be just the two we’ve explicitly seen her downing, but I think more are implied.
Sirksome
I mean Ruth’s the one who even brought up getting laid in the first place so this is a little weird to me that’s she suddenly guilty about not wanting it.
Wagstaff
If only she knew just how hungry a Daisy was.
TemporalShrew
Wouldn’t that be precisely the reason? She brought it up, therefore she feels obliged to go through with it, therefore she feels guilty for not totally wanting to go through with it.
Sirksome
My question is why did she even bring it up? Things were going pretty well before sex was even put on the table at all. It was pretty much established that Daisy is in to her and wants to see her again regardless of if they actually smash or not. But Ruth is drunk so maybe I’m trying to apply more logic to this than she is.
Yotomoe
Things honestly weren’t going all that great. Ruth still had her walls up around her. You can see a huge difference between how she’s opened up to Jason vs. Daisy. Ruth basically offered sex because she’s forcing it. That’s at least my impression. She’s just trying to force herself with another girl who’s nice who she’s not super compatible with but is nice and wants to bone. Daisy’s a rebound.
Sirksome
There are important differences between Ruth and Daisy vs Ruth and Jason. For one Ruth is drunk. She had one shot before they even really started talking and before that she was her usual abrasive self with him. Plus they’ve met before the last time Ruth was here with “Billie”. That’s established familiarity which is much less pressure than a blind first date. Ruth was showing some attraction to Daisy. Enough to proposition her and even now she’s saying she think’s Daisy’s hot. It’s just strange to me that she essentially psyched herself out in the process of trying to psyche herself up when there was no pressure on her to begin with.
Yotomoe
– “She had one shot before they even really started talking and before that she was her usual abrasive self with him.”
Emphasis on “usual”. She’s not trying hard with Jason and that makes all the difference. Ruth feels like she SHOULD have sex with Daisy, but I don’t think she actually WANTS to. Like she wants to but she doesn’t WANT to. There’s instant gratification and then there’s the reality of the situation.
Sirksome
“She want to but she doesn’t want to” See that’s exactly what I’m confused about. Although frankly I’m not sure what Ruth wants even matters at this point because I think she’s past the point where she can even give consent. Which might actually be what she wanted all along. Kind of take the choice away so she doesn’t even have to make it.
Needfuldoer
Ruth’s not entirely over Jennifer yet, and she thinks she’s not good enough for Daisy. Hence the self-sabotage.
Regina phalange
I mean, there’s a million and one reasons for someone to float the possibility of sex and then regret it? The most basic interpretation is that Ruth made a forward and flirty comment to let Daisy know that she was open to sex, and then she got nervous exactly because of how overly excited that made Daisy. At the very least, if you offer something to someone and they basically respond with “I am so grateful that I have lost control of my bowels AND the social awareness that would otherwise stop me from saying that,” wouldn’t you really start to question the offer, or at have some anxiety over whether you just committed to something that’s a way bigger deal than you thought?
That’s not even getting into the million nuances here. Ruth may have been hoping for a fling, and Daisy’s excitement is telling her that she wants more than that (or is reminding Ruth of potential unresolved feelings re: Jennifer), which is making Ruth feel guilty about it. Ruth could just generally be comfortable with romantic partners whom she can idolize (or more generally stand-off-ish partners), so she could be uncomfortable with the the fact that, rather than engage in snarky banter, someone “too hot for her” is THIS excited about sex with her. Hell, she could just be self-sabotaging. There are a legitimately dozens of other reasons I could list for why Ruth would bring this up and is now regretting it.
The fact that Daisy has been in the bathroom so long that Ruth had time to get somewhat drunk probably isn’t helping the doubt, anxiety, and possible regret.
Sirksome
Those are all valid insights. I’m just chalking it up to Ruth probably not being ready to actually date. Jennifer did set this up kind of assuming what Ruth needed. I’m not sure how long Daisy’s supposed to actually be gone on this. It’s weird comic time. It doesn’t take long to down two shots of whiskey. That’s kind of on Ruth. She ordered a drink basically as soon as Daisy was out of line of sight and got drunk almost instantly. Like I said yesterday that’s pretty impressive.
Rabid Rabbit
We have to remember that Jennifer sometimes thinks that casual sex is a good thing*. There’s a strong vibe of “Sure, we broke up, but don’t worry, I’ll get you laid! Sex is the important part, right?” from her. So since she arranged this date, and probably made it fairly clear that she was finagling an easy lay for both Ruth and Daisy (and, let’s be honest, from her point of view it makes sense — she knows Daisy is desperate, Ruth could use it [as she thinks], it’ll all be fine), both Daisy and Ruth probably think of this as equivalent to a Tindr meet-up. Jennifer has promised both of them sex (just not with her), so they sort of both think that’s what’s on the table; not going through with it because of reasons would seem rude, since they both feel they’re meeting on that basis.
Ruth definitely isn’t ready to date, and I think she realizes that; but this isn’t a “Let’s date” date, it’s a “Shall we bump genitals?” date. Because this is Dumbing of Age and everyone is therefore stupid, the fact that not being ready to date might make casual sex not a good idea (for this particular person, in these particular circumstances) might not come across.
*Not saying that casual sex is necessarily a bad idea! Just that Jennifer doesn’t always think things through. It’s not for everyone, or not always. But Head Cheerleader has found what seems to her the ideal situation, so of course she’s going to push it through. Unfortunately, she apparently hasn’t worked out that “So you couldn’t have that guy, go have sex under the bleachers with that one” isn’t necessarily a cure-for-all.
BarerMender
And possibly Daisy had regrets and slipped out the backdoor.
Sunny
I think it’s just that a lot of things slipped out her backdoor and now she’s mentally going through every option for what Ruth might say and how she can respond to that once she gets back there.
CJ
I‘m honestly not sure how to read the situation. Is it really Ruth feels obliged to habe sex with Daisy and doesn’t want to, or is it that Ruth would like to have sex, not with Daisy per se, Daisy as a person is still an unknown anyway, but just doesn’t know how that works outside of her usual ways (which involved being very drunk and/or bullying the person before the fact)?
Is this about ongoing consent or freaking on the unknown?
(Not saying it wouldn’t be a bad idea for Ruth to have sex now she‘s drunk, but before she got drunk, what was the real issue?)
Reltzik
Maybe Ruth just isn’t comfortable jumping into bed with someone two hours after meeting them, and is pumping the brakes a bit and would rather wait until the third date or something.
Sombrero
There are some hints that Ruth kind of feels that getting laid with Daisy is something she owes to Jennifer. She doesn’t really want to, and now that it’s obvious how much Daisy wants it the pressure is going up. She is getting (drunkenly) aware that if she sabotages the sex part of this date she will not just failing Jennifer, she will also hurt Daisy. Too much responsibility to mix up with half bottle of whiskey.
Tan
On the one hand, as Jason says, it is one’s right to withdraw consent at any time for any reason.
On the other hand, withdrawing consent without hurting the other person’s feelings is a fucking minefield
Suet
Ah, here came the boozles.
*throws arms up in air* You do you, boo.
Opus the Poet
The reprint of the 1989 strip naming them. https://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/2013/07/10
Demoted Oblivious