Adults are just as stupid if not stupider than kids. Basic every political decision I’ve recently become aware of is equivelant to how an 8 year old would solve a problem. (Or a problem they would start).
JessWitt
If I could like your post and timemonkey’s, I would do so tenfold.
But adults can learn from their own and other people’s mistakes and not make them again. Note that I said can learn. Some people just keep doing the same thing over and over again with the expectation that the outcome will differ from the last time they did the same stupid thing.
Yotomoe
Kids can do that too, tho.
Gigafreak
Kids do stupid things for stupid reasons.
Adults do stupid things for smart reasons.
…One of these is more insidious than the other.
tinfoil theory
Grown-ups are not the same thing as adults, then.
Erie
Absolutely. When I was a kid, I had this theory I still really agree with. It stated that, while everyone had to physically grow older, the difference in how you turned out lay in whether you would convince yourself that you were an Adult and therefore any mistake you made was somehow made more noble just by virtue of age, or realising that you are simply a version of yourself that that grown up a bit, and using that knowledge to continue to evolve.
Vincent
I do smart things for seemingly stupid reasons.
Usually.
Do you have any idea how aggravating some adults are, basically stirring shit for no reason whatsoever?
I’m like… Think. Does this get you what you want? Does it affect you in any way? No? Then cut it out.
(My patience with people dictating how other people should or shouldn’t act wears thin sometimes. Yes, I am aware of this subverting what I said before. Luckily, non-robots can accept that two opposing messages need not cancel each other out.)
RadtheCad
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Cybersnark
In fact, kids are more likely to learn from their bad decisions..
Jim
But adults have made more bad decisions that they have learned from
xKiv
Because they used to be kids, and built on top of that.
lightsabermario
There’s a saying that applies here. “Practice doesn’t make perfect. Practice makes permanent.”
Robert
I think the beer helmet was invented by adults.
RadtheCad
>implying beer helmet is not the greatest advancement in human history
Quoting Andy Zaltzman from John Oliver’s Terrifying Times:
“(…)And not only have they officially confirmed for the world that
two wrongs don’t make a right, but they also now discovered that
three wrongs don’t make a right, nor do four wrongs, nor five, nor six,
nor seven, nor eight, but they do reckon that statistically there simply
must be a number of wrongs that makes does make a right and they
will carry on piling on those wrongs until they reach that magic number and the world can live in peace and harmony for evermore.”
Lanval
Adults have the benefit of learning from decades of mistakes and usually are in a position where they’ve had to take responsibility for others.
Younger people can be more daring in solutions and try to solve stuff that older people didn’t even see as a problem because Adults are too careful due to responsibilities or just overlook certain anwsers out of habit, but odds are if they survived into adulthood; they’re doing something right and learning [at least a little] from a few decades of wrong.
Nightsbridge
Good at surviving, maybe. But an old person can easily survive while being very ignorant for a long, long time.
Inlaa
Weeeell… Physiologically speaking, that’s incorrect. The logical part of your brain doesn’t fully develop until adulthood; even into your 20’s, you’re still functioning more on feeling and emotion than on reason. This isn’t to say that children and adolescents are unintelligent; rather, they have the same intellect, but they’re less likely to use it in concert with their ability to reason than an adult is.
Pat
Adults are worse than kids.
Kids listen; adults are sure they already know.
(And if you have to instruct a mixed group where the adults are certain the directions are for the kids…)
ajm5007
“Kids listen”
But we’re not dealing with KIDS, here. We’re dealing with TEENAGERS. Whole different ballgame. Teens have that heady mix of all the flaws of children AND all the flaws of adults
Atrophy
Anyone who thinks kids listen hasn’t been around enough kids. This is known as the “how many goddamn times have I told you” argument.
Vincent
Most kids listen. Between ages 5 and 10. Then you have to watch them.
Then they become teenagers.
And we mostly notice the one kid/teenager who’s being a brat for attention.
ajm5007
Kids are definitely stupider than adults, on average. Teens especially so.
Chris Phoenix
A friend of mine was a high-powered computer consultant – started his own business, became a multimillionaire. He highly recommended the book “Raising a Thinking Child” which teaches parents how to teach their six-year-olds distinctions like “a good time / not a good time.” My friend said that the book was amazingly useful when dealing with business people.
I’m going to admit right now I’m stupider as an adult and make worse decisions now than I did when I was ten…. a decade ago, as of two months from now precisely. But regardless, at least as an adult they call us an ass instead of stupid… or they call us an idiot.
Lanval
Twenty isn’t really adulthood; hell the original poster is refering to Ethan as a kid here when he’s 18. It’s like late-teenager or maybe “young-adult”. Most people I know either did some crazy stuff when they were in highschool or university [sometimes both, but usually people who tried to keep it up 8 years straight weren’t learning from their mistakes and dropped out]. Usually when they first realize that they aren’t accountable to anyone but themselves and haven’t tested their own limits [myself included in this].
Give it a bit of time and soon all the crazy stuff will seem like too much of a hassle and you’ll likely have learn from your mistakes; it’ll be sooner than you think.
Johnny Slick
Yeah, I know it sounds condescending but all adulthood is is being 20 + experience. Oh yeah, and your body breaks down in, um, “interesting” ways. And of course the damned kids don’t remember the A-Team.
Doom Shepherd
RvB’s Church said it best: “Take your current age. Now subtract ten years from it. Were you smart back then? Of course you weren’t. You were a God damn idiot. Fact of the matter is, you’re just as big an idiot today, it’s just gonna take you ten more years to realize.”
Kryss LaBryn
^Thiiiiis thisthisthisthis.
Andrusi
I would argue that probably only seem stupider because you have more decisions to make and they come with a wider variety of bad options.
In the original comment, when Opus says that Ethan means well but is making mistakes he wouldn’t make as an adult, could someone explain what mistake Ethan is making. It looks to me like he’s doing a pretty good job here of exploring if he and Danny have a common cause without doing anything irrevokable. Where’s the mistake?
Yeah, they’re always banging on about those stupid pills, usually without bothering to explain them. I take some actual pills that are red on one side, blue on the other, which gives me a splendid idea for some quiet trollin’.
Jerden
I grind them all up into a powder AND SNORT IT.
ninja_jesus
I SNORT YOUR PILL POWDER!
I SNORT IT ALLLL UP!
(The drug version of that scene was not as well-received)
Rutee
It’s a reference to the Matrix. I forget the choice of words, but the blue pill was for Neo to just think he had a weird dream, and the red pill was for him to learn the actual nature of the world.
Hrm. Alt-text isn’t quite right. Joe and Walky have talked about McNuggets and shoes, Ethan and Danny have talked about Danny’s hair, and Mike and Ethan have discussed Chick-a-fil, just off the top of my head.
The first one was actually done on purpose just so I could do the joke later during the Bechdel Test thing about how they have talked about things other than girls. It was kind of cheating.
Deanatay
Cheaty Bechdel still counts as Bechdel. It’s all overrated, anyway. Just tell a good story.
Besides, you don’t get to choose if you’re labelled a misogynist/misandrist, that’s your ‘fan”s job.
How come it’s cool for snakes to spit venom and unhinge their jaw to swallow people whole, but when I do it, I’m the “antichrist” and I need an “exorcism”?
Yotomoe
How come it’s cool for Vampires to drink blood, but when I do it I get kicked out of the hospital!?
Yotomoe
How come Mario can jump on turtles but when I do it Peta gets all up on my case!?
Drunken Nordmann
They got up on Mario’s case, too, but not for the turtles thing.
Yotomoe
How come when Kirby skins his enemy and wears them as a hat it’s fine but when I wear a Tanuki PETA gets all up on my case?
-An MRA: Mario Rights Activist.
249 thoughts on “Evasive”
Opus the Poet
Ethan is really a good person inside, but since he’s not fully adult he makes mistakes he wouldn’t as an adult.
timemonkey
Being an adult isn’t a magical state that prevents bad decisions and being stupid.
Yotomoe
Adults are just as stupid if not stupider than kids. Basic every political decision I’ve recently become aware of is equivelant to how an 8 year old would solve a problem. (Or a problem they would start).
JessWitt
If I could like your post and timemonkey’s, I would do so tenfold.
Opus the Poet
But adults can learn from their own and other people’s mistakes and not make them again. Note that I said can learn. Some people just keep doing the same thing over and over again with the expectation that the outcome will differ from the last time they did the same stupid thing.
Yotomoe
Kids can do that too, tho.
Gigafreak
Kids do stupid things for stupid reasons.
Adults do stupid things for smart reasons.
…One of these is more insidious than the other.
tinfoil theory
Grown-ups are not the same thing as adults, then.
Erie
Absolutely. When I was a kid, I had this theory I still really agree with. It stated that, while everyone had to physically grow older, the difference in how you turned out lay in whether you would convince yourself that you were an Adult and therefore any mistake you made was somehow made more noble just by virtue of age, or realising that you are simply a version of yourself that that grown up a bit, and using that knowledge to continue to evolve.
Vincent
I do smart things for seemingly stupid reasons.
Usually.
Do you have any idea how aggravating some adults are, basically stirring shit for no reason whatsoever?
I’m like… Think. Does this get you what you want? Does it affect you in any way? No? Then cut it out.
(My patience with people dictating how other people should or shouldn’t act wears thin sometimes. Yes, I am aware of this subverting what I said before. Luckily, non-robots can accept that two opposing messages need not cancel each other out.)
RadtheCad
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Cybersnark
In fact, kids are more likely to learn from their bad decisions..
Jim
But adults have made more bad decisions that they have learned from
xKiv
Because they used to be kids, and built on top of that.
lightsabermario
There’s a saying that applies here. “Practice doesn’t make perfect. Practice makes permanent.”
Robert
I think the beer helmet was invented by adults.
RadtheCad
>implying beer helmet is not the greatest advancement in human history
schmelle
Quoting Andy Zaltzman from John Oliver’s Terrifying Times:
“(…)And not only have they officially confirmed for the world that
two wrongs don’t make a right, but they also now discovered that
three wrongs don’t make a right, nor do four wrongs, nor five, nor six,
nor seven, nor eight, but they do reckon that statistically there simply
must be a number of wrongs that makes does make a right and they
will carry on piling on those wrongs until they reach that magic number and the world can live in peace and harmony for evermore.”
Lanval
Adults have the benefit of learning from decades of mistakes and usually are in a position where they’ve had to take responsibility for others.
Younger people can be more daring in solutions and try to solve stuff that older people didn’t even see as a problem because Adults are too careful due to responsibilities or just overlook certain anwsers out of habit, but odds are if they survived into adulthood; they’re doing something right and learning [at least a little] from a few decades of wrong.
Nightsbridge
Good at surviving, maybe. But an old person can easily survive while being very ignorant for a long, long time.
Inlaa
Weeeell… Physiologically speaking, that’s incorrect. The logical part of your brain doesn’t fully develop until adulthood; even into your 20’s, you’re still functioning more on feeling and emotion than on reason. This isn’t to say that children and adolescents are unintelligent; rather, they have the same intellect, but they’re less likely to use it in concert with their ability to reason than an adult is.
Pat
Adults are worse than kids.
Kids listen; adults are sure they already know.
(And if you have to instruct a mixed group where the adults are certain the directions are for the kids…)
ajm5007
“Kids listen”
But we’re not dealing with KIDS, here. We’re dealing with TEENAGERS. Whole different ballgame. Teens have that heady mix of all the flaws of children AND all the flaws of adults
Atrophy
Anyone who thinks kids listen hasn’t been around enough kids. This is known as the “how many goddamn times have I told you” argument.
Vincent
Most kids listen. Between ages 5 and 10. Then you have to watch them.
Then they become teenagers.
And we mostly notice the one kid/teenager who’s being a brat for attention.
ajm5007
Kids are definitely stupider than adults, on average. Teens especially so.
Chris Phoenix
A friend of mine was a high-powered computer consultant – started his own business, became a multimillionaire. He highly recommended the book “Raising a Thinking Child” which teaches parents how to teach their six-year-olds distinctions like “a good time / not a good time.” My friend said that the book was amazingly useful when dealing with business people.
SAL
I’m going to admit right now I’m stupider as an adult and make worse decisions now than I did when I was ten…. a decade ago, as of two months from now precisely. But regardless, at least as an adult they call us an ass instead of stupid… or they call us an idiot.
Lanval
Twenty isn’t really adulthood; hell the original poster is refering to Ethan as a kid here when he’s 18. It’s like late-teenager or maybe “young-adult”. Most people I know either did some crazy stuff when they were in highschool or university [sometimes both, but usually people who tried to keep it up 8 years straight weren’t learning from their mistakes and dropped out]. Usually when they first realize that they aren’t accountable to anyone but themselves and haven’t tested their own limits [myself included in this].
Give it a bit of time and soon all the crazy stuff will seem like too much of a hassle and you’ll likely have learn from your mistakes; it’ll be sooner than you think.
Johnny Slick
Yeah, I know it sounds condescending but all adulthood is is being 20 + experience. Oh yeah, and your body breaks down in, um, “interesting” ways. And of course the damned kids don’t remember the A-Team.
Doom Shepherd
RvB’s Church said it best: “Take your current age. Now subtract ten years from it. Were you smart back then? Of course you weren’t. You were a God damn idiot. Fact of the matter is, you’re just as big an idiot today, it’s just gonna take you ten more years to realize.”
Kryss LaBryn
^Thiiiiis thisthisthisthis.
Andrusi
I would argue that probably only seem stupider because you have more decisions to make and they come with a wider variety of bad options.
Lel
I disagree. I recently turned 18 and have made no mistakes since then. I also no longer get modern music and find technology frightening.
Wack'd
Having read Shortpacked! I can say with some security that tacking a few years onto his age doesn’t improve his decision-making process.
Charlie Spencer
Same actor, different character who happens to have the same name.
RandomGuy
If that was the case, I have no idea where the bad desisions I’ve made the last ten years come from…
Clif
In the original comment, when Opus says that Ethan means well but is making mistakes he wouldn’t make as an adult, could someone explain what mistake Ethan is making. It looks to me like he’s doing a pretty good job here of exploring if he and Danny have a common cause without doing anything irrevokable. Where’s the mistake?
Jen Aside
“You know, when she keeps doing that thing she does?”
“…flipping tables?”
Wack'd
“No, Amber. You’re thinking of Jesus.”
Black Bumblebee
Actually, I was thinking of Prowl…
Khaner
*insert MRA rant here*
Jay Eff
Ah! You must have read the Alt Text!
“Reverse Misandry!”
Jay Eff
LOL Firefox gives “Misandry” the Red Squiggly Line of Doom
Deathjavu
Jokes aside, the spell check in browsers is missing quite a few words, even by the standards of Word.
Opus the Poet
Interestingly enough they did have Urusei Yatsura in my spell checker. Proving the programmers were classic anime fans.
Doctor_Who
You see?! That’s how ignored a problem it is! We must educate the masses!
(Sarcasm, btw, since the Venn Diagram of people who talk seriously about misandry and people who don’t understand humor is just a circle).
Karfsma778
Nah, its a small circle inside a larger circle. Plenty of people with no sense of humor don’t talk about misandry seriously.
Opus the Poet
This^
Lanval
Does the larger circle include the people who need to properly label hypothetical graphs? 😛
Johnny Slick
NO THAT IS A SEPARATE CIRCLE ENTIRELY
Opus the Poet
But an intersecting circle with the group who don’t understand humor (a rather large intersection).
-Sentinel-
Something something mangina something something incel something something redpill something something hypergamy
-Sentinel-
Oh, forgot an important issue: “false raep accusation” [sic]
Khaner
something something friendzone
Robin
something something alpha something something beta
Atrophy
Something something something Dark Siiiiiiiiiide!
Roborat
Something, something, something, Danger Zone!
davidbreslin101
Yeah, they’re always banging on about those stupid pills, usually without bothering to explain them. I take some actual pills that are red on one side, blue on the other, which gives me a splendid idea for some quiet trollin’.
Jerden
I grind them all up into a powder AND SNORT IT.
ninja_jesus
I SNORT YOUR PILL POWDER!
I SNORT IT ALLLL UP!
(The drug version of that scene was not as well-received)
Rutee
It’s a reference to the Matrix. I forget the choice of words, but the blue pill was for Neo to just think he had a weird dream, and the red pill was for him to learn the actual nature of the world.
Wack'd
Hrm. Alt-text isn’t quite right. Joe and Walky have talked about McNuggets and shoes, Ethan and Danny have talked about Danny’s hair, and Mike and Ethan have discussed Chick-a-fil, just off the top of my head.
Khaner
DON’T CARE MISANDRY RRRARRRGGG
AgentKeen
Walky and Mike discussed pajama jeans is the first that popped into my head.
David M Willis
The first one was actually done on purpose just so I could do the joke later during the Bechdel Test thing about how they have talked about things other than girls. It was kind of cheating.
Deanatay
Cheaty Bechdel still counts as Bechdel. It’s all overrated, anyway. Just tell a good story.
Besides, you don’t get to choose if you’re labelled a misogynist/misandrist, that’s your ‘fan”s job.
Lanval
Wack’d: Thanks for that, part of me wanted to archive binge just to confirm it, even if I was pretty sure that I could think of a few cases.
Yotomoe
How come women get to bang lots of dudes and it’s fine but if I do the same thing they call me gay?
Plasma Mongoose
It’s only gay if you are the receiver or when balls touch. 😛
Leorale
How come it’s cool for snakes to spit venom and unhinge their jaw to swallow people whole, but when I do it, I’m the “antichrist” and I need an “exorcism”?
Yotomoe
How come it’s cool for Vampires to drink blood, but when I do it I get kicked out of the hospital!?
Yotomoe
How come Mario can jump on turtles but when I do it Peta gets all up on my case!?
Drunken Nordmann
They got up on Mario’s case, too, but not for the turtles thing.
Yotomoe
How come when Kirby skins his enemy and wears them as a hat it’s fine but when I wear a Tanuki PETA gets all up on my case?
-An MRA: Mario Rights Activist.