I sense that Dinah and Becky will run into some trouble. At heart, Dinah doesn’t believe that Becky and her sexy times abstinence means anything because she doesn’t believe in Becky’s values systems at all.
Dina respects Becky’s sexual boundaries. She’s been perfectly patient and respectful of them, she simply put her own cards on the table. You can definitely respect people’s bodily choices without having to believe in their gods.
To be fair, Becky’s value system was inherited from her abuser and the culture that enabled him, and she’s actively in the process of jettisoning it. Why would Dinah value the opinions of the theocrat that nearly killed her twice?
Last I heard Becky was still very much a Jesus gal at heart despite what’s happened to her. Has something happened since the timeskip that changed that?
UnfrozenNeanderthal
No. Maybe they’re getting her mixed up with Joyce?
thejeff
She’s still a Jesus girl, but she’s certainly jettisoned large parts of the values system she was taught – all the anti-homosexuality parts as the largest example. Along with the creationism and all the pseudo-science that goes along with it.
So far she’s kept the “no sex before marriage” part, but it’s not clear from outside why that’s stronger than the “no lesbians” part.
StClair
Because she hasn’t abandoned the fantasy of the perfect wedding and happily-ever-after picket-fence home life that she was brought up with, she’s just re-imagined it with another woman who is definitely not Joyce, nope as her partner. And staying “pure and chaste” until then, despite what her hormones are screaming for, is how you (supposedly) get that.
There’s a part of me that seemingly recalls (can’t remember if it was here or Twitter, if at all), back when Dina was wearing a grey shirt with the ace flag on its sleeves, that Willis confirmed its implications for Dina herself.
KumquatSquash
If I remember correctly, the tweet you’re talking about had to do with the shirt Dina was wearing being based off a shirt that Willis saw on a rack somewhere, along with a picture of the shirt in question. The shirt had a different colour scheme from the one Dina was wearing in the comic, confirming that the shirt design mirroring the ace flag was intentional.
Dina has extended to Becky an open invitation for sexytimes.
King Daniel
Asexuality (in its various forms) =/= sex-repulsed.
King Daniel
My gravatar is very fitting tonight, it seems.
Throwatron
Is there a good place to go to learn about stuff like this? I know there are a plethora of asexual experiences, but I have trouble identifying and labeling and recognizing different types of them, and it’s really important to me because some of my closest friends are ace and I’ve never been very successful finding comprehensive material that could help me, like…even just understand very basic parts of those identities on a baseline level, let alone start cracking the really granular stuff…
Low key nose swab the comic isn’t actually called “Aces Wild that talks about all kinds of ace stuff (and occasionally other LGBT+ stuff) including the various forms that being ace can take”.
King Daniel
What is this comic and why did I not know of its existence sooner
Fun Ghoul
AVEN is the biggest resource on asexuality I know. They have a friends and family FAQ and several short other FAQs that will give you all the important terms for further google searches, but they also list blogs about asexuality under “Media and Press” > “Other resources”.
They also have AVEN-Wiki, which will tell you all about asexual vs. aromantic vs. nonlibidoism, grey asexuality and demisexuality. asexuality vs. sex-repulsion (just to throw around some of the key terms for research-starting points), asexuality vs. medical conditions or phobias (which are not part of asexuality but do get people confused sometimes) and the ABCD Categories of Asexuality which honestly I don’t think anybody identifies with but which are helpful to sort through the diverse experiences within asexuality.
Sorry for the infodump, I hope it helps though.
DracoAtrox
I’ve always looked at it this way:
I am perfectly willing to do things that I don’t particularly enjoy, simply for the sheer pleasure of seeing my girlfriend having a blast. It’s probably the same for some asexual people who are in relationships.
zee
From what I’ve heard that is sometimes the case but it’s better to look at it this way. You have two scales, sexual attraction and libido. Libido is just “i want pleasure”, attraction is “based on physical features, i want sex with this person specifically”. You can experience low or no attraction, but high libido, which means if you’re in a relationship you can still want and enjoy sex with your partner. That’s what I’ve heard at least, I’m not ace so I’m no expert
He Who Abides
There’s also romantic attraction, which is an entirely different spectrum. Speaking as someone who’s ace and yet madly in love with my wife, romantic attraction can be more than enough, if you’re with the right person.
Abstinence isn’t going to be the problem here. Dina’s stated multiple times that she’s patient about it. I think the problem is that Becky has a lot of trouble with direct communication, while Dina both needs and thrives on it.
Becky, you were doing… I hesitate to say “well” but you were improving. Now you think throwing your drink on the ground in response to legit criticism is alright…?
I take it back, she might actually have a career in politics; she has the attitude down already.
Discussion (188) - “Dotty: 0”
Ana Chronistic
“Yer just saying that because yer jealous that I 1. have a girlfriend and 2. have a BESTIE”
“cool story bro”
Clif
Dorothy can be mean when she wants to be. Nothing hurts like the truth.
butts
whoa, way to bring down the mood with facts, dotty
Lumino
Dorothy has been absolutely SLAYING it so far this arc.
Hazel
To keep the sports metaphor going, Dorothy is MVP.
Reltzik
I don’t think that “down” is what Dotty actually did to Becky’s mood.
….
… also, I accidentally wrote that Dotty as Betty. If that’s not the name for the inevitable Dorothy/Becky ship, I demand to know why not.
Keith Curtis
Better than Dorkie…
C.T Phipps
I sense that Dinah and Becky will run into some trouble. At heart, Dinah doesn’t believe that Becky and her sexy times abstinence means anything because she doesn’t believe in Becky’s values systems at all.
Leorale
Dina respects Becky’s sexual boundaries. She’s been perfectly patient and respectful of them, she simply put her own cards on the table. You can definitely respect people’s bodily choices without having to believe in their gods.
Leorale
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/signalling/
JacksonWrites
This just reminds me how much I LOVED Becky’s look in that part of the arc
Alexander Hammil
To be fair, Becky’s value system was inherited from her abuser and the culture that enabled him, and she’s actively in the process of jettisoning it. Why would Dinah value the opinions of the theocrat that nearly killed her twice?
Alexander Hammil
Dangit, Dina, not Dinah, sorry.
Azhrei Vep
Because the person she cares about is still holding onto some of them, and Dina is nothing if not incredibly respectful.
brumagem
Last I heard Becky was still very much a Jesus gal at heart despite what’s happened to her. Has something happened since the timeskip that changed that?
UnfrozenNeanderthal
No. Maybe they’re getting her mixed up with Joyce?
thejeff
She’s still a Jesus girl, but she’s certainly jettisoned large parts of the values system she was taught – all the anti-homosexuality parts as the largest example. Along with the creationism and all the pseudo-science that goes along with it.
So far she’s kept the “no sex before marriage” part, but it’s not clear from outside why that’s stronger than the “no lesbians” part.
StClair
Because she hasn’t abandoned the fantasy of the perfect wedding and happily-ever-after picket-fence home life that she was brought up with, she’s just re-imagined it with another woman
who is definitely not Joyce, nopeas her partner. And staying “pure and chaste” until then, despite what her hormones are screaming for, is how you (supposedly) get that.tbf
I get a vaguely asexual vibe off of Dina, so I’m interested to see how this plays out.
King Daniel
There’s a part of me that seemingly recalls (can’t remember if it was here or Twitter, if at all), back when Dina was wearing a grey shirt with the ace flag on its sleeves, that Willis confirmed its implications for Dina herself.
KumquatSquash
If I remember correctly, the tweet you’re talking about had to do with the shirt Dina was wearing being based off a shirt that Willis saw on a rack somewhere, along with a picture of the shirt in question. The shirt had a different colour scheme from the one Dina was wearing in the comic, confirming that the shirt design mirroring the ace flag was intentional.
Ferret
Dina has extended to Becky an open invitation for sexytimes.
King Daniel
Asexuality (in its various forms) =/= sex-repulsed.
King Daniel
My gravatar is very fitting tonight, it seems.
Throwatron
Is there a good place to go to learn about stuff like this? I know there are a plethora of asexual experiences, but I have trouble identifying and labeling and recognizing different types of them, and it’s really important to me because some of my closest friends are ace and I’ve never been very successful finding comprehensive material that could help me, like…even just understand very basic parts of those identities on a baseline level, let alone start cracking the really granular stuff…
jdorr
I read a comic on deviant art called Aces Wild that talks about all kinds of ace stuff (and occasionally other LGBT+ stuff) including the various forms that being ace can take
jdorr
I forgot to put the thing that stopped the link after wild. Oops
jdorr
And I apperantly didn’t even do the right link. Teaches me not to get too fancy
https://www.deviantart.com/sallyvinter/gallery/63329389/aces-wild
Jungle Dwayne
Low key nose swab the comic isn’t actually called “Aces Wild that talks about all kinds of ace stuff (and occasionally other LGBT+ stuff) including the various forms that being ace can take”.
King Daniel
What is this comic and why did I not know of its existence sooner
Fun Ghoul
AVEN is the biggest resource on asexuality I know. They have a friends and family FAQ and several short other FAQs that will give you all the important terms for further google searches, but they also list blogs about asexuality under “Media and Press” > “Other resources”.
They also have AVEN-Wiki, which will tell you all about asexual vs. aromantic vs. nonlibidoism, grey asexuality and demisexuality. asexuality vs. sex-repulsion (just to throw around some of the key terms for research-starting points), asexuality vs. medical conditions or phobias (which are not part of asexuality but do get people confused sometimes) and the ABCD Categories of Asexuality which honestly I don’t think anybody identifies with but which are helpful to sort through the diverse experiences within asexuality.
Sorry for the infodump, I hope it helps though.
DracoAtrox
I’ve always looked at it this way:
I am perfectly willing to do things that I don’t particularly enjoy, simply for the sheer pleasure of seeing my girlfriend having a blast. It’s probably the same for some asexual people who are in relationships.
zee
From what I’ve heard that is sometimes the case but it’s better to look at it this way. You have two scales, sexual attraction and libido. Libido is just “i want pleasure”, attraction is “based on physical features, i want sex with this person specifically”. You can experience low or no attraction, but high libido, which means if you’re in a relationship you can still want and enjoy sex with your partner. That’s what I’ve heard at least, I’m not ace so I’m no expert
He Who Abides
There’s also romantic attraction, which is an entirely different spectrum. Speaking as someone who’s ace and yet madly in love with my wife, romantic attraction can be more than enough, if you’re with the right person.
showler
It won’t be the abstinence that causes problems for Dina, it will be the avoidance.
Amias
Abstinence isn’t going to be the problem here. Dina’s stated multiple times that she’s patient about it. I think the problem is that Becky has a lot of trouble with direct communication, while Dina both needs and thrives on it.
thejeff
Won’t be the problem with Dina, but Becky’s afraid she won’t be able to resist.
Stephen Bierce
Don’t Mention The War
That’s what FOOTBALL is for!…
King Daniel
Having a football game instead of a war is all well and good until someone actually declares the Football War.
Stephen Bierce
There’s a soccer born every minute, my brother would say.
King Daniel
That’s the kicker, isn’t it?
He Who Abides
I’m calling a punalty on this topic.
King Daniel
You have any other goals in mind?
He Who Abides
Getting “punalty” to catch on with more than just me.
Spencer
I choose to interpret this as the closest to passively aggressively lashing out Dorothy can muster and I’m all for it.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
So Becky is Danning it up now?
tbf
From Becky’s unearned bravado and Dorothy somberly pointing out the real problem, I was getting a Joe/Danny vibe in the opposite direction.
fridge_logic
I was feeling Mike energy out of Dotty tbh.
Furubatsu
Dorothy used to date Danny, I guess if anyone knows how to deal with someone “Danning it up” it would be her.
UnfrozenNeanderthal
Becky that’s some dubious point scoring
s
Step aside Booster, Dorothy is the new Mike for now
Sam
When your only response is to throw something, there are no points. You’ve lost the entire game.
SuperZero
That depends. Are you throwing things at the opponent? That can be viable, depending on the situation.
Yumi
And, in fact, there are some games where throwing things is critical to scoring points.
Clif
Ask Walky.
UnfrozenNeanderthal
Many competitive exercises actually assign points and determine the victor based on the participants abilty to throw something
Jamie
If you flip the table and then grab it and run off, clearly you are a winner.
showler
Re: Alt text.
Becky is a Political Science major now.
Nono
I thought according to Joe, Dorothy scored an 8.
Leorale
“Don’t rate women, Joe.”
BBCC
Now, see, you say that Bex, but Dorothy just scored yet another very polite fatality, so I’d say she won this round.
Kyrik Michalowski
Dorothy is absolutely right to call out Becky, and she does it so effectively too.
goggleman64
Cool! The banner with Joyce and Becky’s been updated to have Joyce wearing glasses.
Kyrik Michalowski
Becky, you were doing… I hesitate to say “well” but you were improving. Now you think throwing your drink on the ground in response to legit criticism is alright…?
I take it back, she might actually have a career in politics; she has the attitude down already.
BarerMender
When did “floor” and “ground” switch meanings? She threw the drink on the floor.
Kyrik Michalowski
Floor definition:
the lower surface of the room, on which one may walk.
“Informal”: the ground.
Delicious Taffy
The only difference between the floor and the ground is the number of nearby walls.
FacelessDeviant
Whoa. I didn’t know I was being informal when calling it the ground. I don’t know it well enough to be informal like that.
Minim
I’ve heard ‘floor’ and ‘ground’ get used interchangeably when indoors.
Not that I care or anything.
Clif
If you’re grounded enough, you’re almost never floored.
Sunny
That’s deep.