Sal was specifically speculating that Amazo had a concussio and that meant she shouldn’t sleep.
Elisto Dragonwings
That’s actually a myth.
Mystify
My wife hit her head and went to the hospital recently, the doctor said its ok to fall asleep once you are in the hospital, but not before. I’m not sure if its in the hospital specifically, or just beingi n the process of receiving care. I can see going to sleep after a head injury when noone is helping you to be a bad idea, as you don’t get help that you may need.
Aletheia
As far as I understand it, the doctor probably said that because it was made clear that your wife didn’t have more damage going on than just the concussion. It’s fine to sleep with concussions, as long as there’s no signs of further trauma (like dilated eyes, etc), and being in the hospital meant that she was checked for that and being monitored (I assume?). 🙂
Guairdean Beatha
I had a severe concussion when I was ten. The doctor told my parents to wake me up every hour, and to head straight to the Emergency Room if they couldn’t wake me up.
Agemegos
Yes, but it is very dangerous to mistake an other loss of consciousness for sleep. If someone gets a blow to the head and afterwards becomes woozy, then unconscious, that can be a sign of serious intracranial injury. So you check. You try to wake them, you determine whether they can remain awake. If so, okay. If not, check for other neurological signs, and rush the patient to Radiology for images.
There are reasons to say “Wake up! Look at me! Try to stay wake!” that happen not to have anything to do with sleep itself being dangerous. Just as you give patients a little shove on their shoulders to check their balance without wanting to push them over, or you weave from side to side to check that their eyes are tracking without having a clinical reason to dance the shimmy.
Ana Chronistic
so what you do is 1. let the person get to a safe place where consciousness doesn’t matter and 2. call an ambulance so if trauma has occurred it can be attended to
but the “NUUUUUUU YOU MUST STAY AWAKEN” seems a bit putting a bandage on a severed artery
Ana Chronistic
the only “downside” is in this case Amazi-Girl would most likely lose her cover, but having a superhero persona isn’t on the top most suggested list from doctors FOR SOME REASON
Agemegos
Well, I agree that Sal ought to call an ambulance, or at least take Amber to an ER and make up some story about falling off a motorbike, and not attempt amateur triage. But then, I’m one of the fuddy-duddies who thought Joyce ought to call the cops, not Amazi-Girl, and that Amazi-Girl ought not to have engaged in insanely dangerous movie stunts on two moving cars, ….
I’m just saying that the myth that falling asleep is dangerous when you have a brain injury is neither here nor there: there are good reasons to try to wake up an unconscious person when you fear brain injury, and to ask a woozy person to try to stay awake. I think that Sal is doing something that is terribly inadvisable, but acting on the myth that waking up concussed people protects them from injury does not seem to be the problem. There is a reason to say “Wake up Amazo! … Gimme a sign yer melon’s bruised and not mushed” that has nothing to do with believing that myth.
I believe you live in the spaces between time, where Willis hides all the good feels. its an achievement that my phone even loaded the page with 0 comments
On the other hand, without tomorrow’s comic we don’t know which personality she woke up as. And I’d say it’s hard to determine if she actually fell unconscious from this strip – instead of just groggy and in a pain only panic can allay.
That advice just means you don’t need to wake the person up every few hours with a head injury…once they’re checked out they can sleep. This usually means a doc has ruled out a head bleed either via CT or pt history.
It’s still ABSOLUTELY a good call to do that initial assessment after head trauma/LOC to rule out a bleed in the first place.
Basically, “it is OK to sleep following head trauma” is not the same as “don’t be concerned if they lose consciousness immediately following head trauma”.
I just feel like there’s concern (“okay, we’ve ruled out serious trauma, you can rest now”), then there’s paranoia (“DON’T FALL ASLEEP AFTER A CONCUSSION EVER EVER YOU WILL COMA AND NEVER WAKE UP”)
Well, according to the source you have given “[a] person can go to sleep following a concussion if he or she is awake and able to hold a conversation. No other symptoms, such as dilated pupils or trouble walking, should be present before sleeping.” So Sal is perfectly right in checking if Amazi-Girl is awake and can talk and walk and doesn’t have dilated pupils before allowing her to sleep.
Don’t know if it’s in the plot, but I sure would like it if they developed a grudging respect for each other or even a partnership. Sal seems a little wiser than AmaziGal in this arc. Don’t know if AG is able of willing to taking any of her advice, though!
“I don’t think there’s been enough drama today, let’s have Amber have to confront one of the people that’s she’s been traumatized by!” – Willis. Probably.
Discussion (370) - “Bruised”
Ana Chronistic
Sal has the worst advice
…well, okay, I guess sustaining MORE injuries won’t help with existing injury
Ana Chronistic
of COURSE it changed from the Patreon preview when my desktop dies and I vaguely remember what I was gonna post
Cthulhu's Intern
What did the Patreon preview say?
Ana Chronistic
don’t fall asleep
which is like feeding a fever and starving a cold
(except I don’t know that feeding a fever is actually bad advice)
Leorale
Feed a fever and feed a cold. Eat more, you look too skinny, aren’t you chilly? here is a sweater.
Rowen Morland
Feed a fever and feed a cold. Eat more, you look too skinny, aren’t you chilly? here is a sweater. It’s time to get better.
gwalla
I thought it was “Feed a cold, starve a yak.” That’s what the Lounge Lizards told me.
Packy
Sal was specifically speculating that Amazo had a concussio and that meant she shouldn’t sleep.
Elisto Dragonwings
That’s actually a myth.
Mystify
My wife hit her head and went to the hospital recently, the doctor said its ok to fall asleep once you are in the hospital, but not before. I’m not sure if its in the hospital specifically, or just beingi n the process of receiving care. I can see going to sleep after a head injury when noone is helping you to be a bad idea, as you don’t get help that you may need.
Aletheia
As far as I understand it, the doctor probably said that because it was made clear that your wife didn’t have more damage going on than just the concussion. It’s fine to sleep with concussions, as long as there’s no signs of further trauma (like dilated eyes, etc), and being in the hospital meant that she was checked for that and being monitored (I assume?). 🙂
Guairdean Beatha
I had a severe concussion when I was ten. The doctor told my parents to wake me up every hour, and to head straight to the Emergency Room if they couldn’t wake me up.
Agemegos
Yes, but it is very dangerous to mistake an other loss of consciousness for sleep. If someone gets a blow to the head and afterwards becomes woozy, then unconscious, that can be a sign of serious intracranial injury. So you check. You try to wake them, you determine whether they can remain awake. If so, okay. If not, check for other neurological signs, and rush the patient to Radiology for images.
There are reasons to say “Wake up! Look at me! Try to stay wake!” that happen not to have anything to do with sleep itself being dangerous. Just as you give patients a little shove on their shoulders to check their balance without wanting to push them over, or you weave from side to side to check that their eyes are tracking without having a clinical reason to dance the shimmy.
Ana Chronistic
so what you do is 1. let the person get to a safe place where consciousness doesn’t matter and 2. call an ambulance so if trauma has occurred it can be attended to
but the “NUUUUUUU YOU MUST STAY AWAKEN” seems a bit putting a bandage on a severed artery
Ana Chronistic
the only “downside” is in this case Amazi-Girl would most likely lose her cover, but having a superhero persona isn’t on the top most suggested list from doctors FOR SOME REASON
Agemegos
Well, I agree that Sal ought to call an ambulance, or at least take Amber to an ER and make up some story about falling off a motorbike, and not attempt amateur triage. But then, I’m one of the fuddy-duddies who thought Joyce ought to call the cops, not Amazi-Girl, and that Amazi-Girl ought not to have engaged in insanely dangerous movie stunts on two moving cars, ….
I’m just saying that the myth that falling asleep is dangerous when you have a brain injury is neither here nor there: there are good reasons to try to wake up an unconscious person when you fear brain injury, and to ask a woozy person to try to stay awake. I think that Sal is doing something that is terribly inadvisable, but acting on the myth that waking up concussed people protects them from injury does not seem to be the problem. There is a reason to say “Wake up Amazo! … Gimme a sign yer melon’s bruised and not mushed” that has nothing to do with believing that myth.
Androiddreams
I believe you live in the spaces between time, where Willis hides all the good feels. its an achievement that my phone even loaded the page with 0 comments
asnow mous e
She still woke AmaziGirl up, which might not be the absolute best idea.
kirbilius clausius
+1
I only know of one person who woke up in character, and that was Sascha Cohen after drinking himself to sleep in a wine tasting as Borat. I think this is closer to how Batman thinks of himself as “Batman” rather than “Bruce Wayne” (and a level of induced schyzophrenia or at least the beginning of a split personality disorder akin to http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/sheshere/ than http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/real/
On the other hand, without tomorrow’s comic we don’t know which personality she woke up as. And I’d say it’s hard to determine if she actually fell unconscious from this strip – instead of just groggy and in a pain only panic can allay.
licoricepencil
psst: Willis fixed the dialogue in panel 2.
licoricepencil
…and you noticed before my comment went through. (sorry)
Ana Chronistic
Hence the name! =D
Guairdean Beatha
What was the original dialogue?
Clif
And you will forget all this when I snap my fingers.
Ana Chronistic
“though, uh, also don’t forget that there’s a tree behind you”
Ruhrow
That advice just means you don’t need to wake the person up every few hours with a head injury…once they’re checked out they can sleep. This usually means a doc has ruled out a head bleed either via CT or pt history.
It’s still ABSOLUTELY a good call to do that initial assessment after head trauma/LOC to rule out a bleed in the first place.
Basically, “it is OK to sleep following head trauma” is not the same as “don’t be concerned if they lose consciousness immediately following head trauma”.
Ana Chronistic
I just feel like there’s concern (“okay, we’ve ruled out serious trauma, you can rest now”), then there’s paranoia (“DON’T FALL ASLEEP AFTER A CONCUSSION EVER EVER YOU WILL COMA AND NEVER WAKE UP”)
yomi
Well, according to the source you have given “[a] person can go to sleep following a concussion if he or she is awake and able to hold a conversation. No other symptoms, such as dilated pupils or trouble walking, should be present before sleeping.” So Sal is perfectly right in checking if Amazi-Girl is awake and can talk and walk and doesn’t have dilated pupils before allowing her to sleep.
Inkblot
Flintstones!
Screwball
Meet the Flintstones!
MisterGunpowder
They’re the modern stone-age fam-i-ly!
cookie1995
From the the town of Bedrock!
David Herbert
They’re a page right out of history.
Psyme
Lets ride! With the family down the street!
Edward Starsmith
Through the … courtesy of Fred’s two feet.
Yet_One_More_Idiot
Flintstones, meet the Flintstones!
Kryss LaBryn
Have a yabba dabba do time.
Deanatay
A dabba-doo time
Kaoy
We’ll have a gay old tiiiiimmmmeeeee
Rei
…this is why I love this community
Screwball
Seconded…
LeslieBean4Shizzle
Thirded.
Abel Undercity
WILLLLMAAAAAA!
Opus the Poet
It’s the Hanna Barbera bongos, not the Flintstone skedaddle. And it was bongos, not the other B-word that gets masked as “bongo”.
Inkblot
we be kvetching now
brionl
Yeah, they used that sound effect on a ton of cartoons, not just the Flintstones.
merbrat
http://www.soundboard.com/handler/DownLoadTrack.ashx?cliptitle=Scrambling+Feet&filename=nt/NTk5MTQ0Nzk4NTk5MTk2_kZuoJSm1boE.MP3
merbrat
(I don’t know how to create an elegant link)
merbrat
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Hanna_Barbera_sound_effec
(the first one)
Screwball
Followed quickly by “Fred Drops The Ball” further down…
Psyme
It would look something like this: Elegant Link
Elegant LinkPsyme
OK… so that did not work. It is kind of hard to give an example of HTML using this editor.
merbrat
It worked, though!
Reltzik
Is it okay if I heard the Scooby Doo running sound effect instead?
Gamaran Sepudomyn
Same here.
Clif
It means Saturday morning cartoons have permanently damaged your mind.
Kryss LaBryn
Zoinks!
merbrat
Hanna-Barbera
Strangeshapes
Wiiiiiiillllmmaaaa!
C
Simpson!
Homer Simpson!
He’s the greatest guy in history!
From the town of Springfield
He’s about to hit a chestnut tree!
Ana Chronistic
‘mazing!
She’s amazing!
She’s a modern superhero girl!
Here in… Indiana,
She’s about to go and rock your world!
(that last one was a half-rhyme)
Alice Macher
The comic relief is appreciated.
Disloyal Subject
Apparently I am doing it wrong.
inqntrol
And flashback memories.
erknen
Well, this is interesting.
-Sentinel-
Yeah, I can’t wait to know where this is going. I’ve been waiting for them to interact in a non-hostile way for YEARS.
Disloyal Subject
It’s… it’s really been that long, hasn’t it?
I’ve been looking forward to this.
PlainMarie
Don’t know if it’s in the plot, but I sure would like it if they developed a grudging respect for each other or even a partnership. Sal seems a little wiser than AmaziGal in this arc. Don’t know if AG is able of willing to taking any of her advice, though!
Cronamash
Amazigirl Lives!
Doc
22-skiddo! Amber’s traumatized, how bout’ you!
Huttj
Gosh, I wonder why she’d backpeddle rapidly from ooooh yeah the convenience store.
AnvilPro
“I don’t think there’s been enough drama today, let’s have Amber have to confront one of the people that’s she’s been traumatized by!” – Willis. Probably.
Undrave
Thank Mercury this strip updates 7 day a week…
Zandar