Wait, what just happened? Joyce was talking to Sal, and then suddenly Joyce was replaced with this SUPER AWESOME PERSON! I didn’t see the transition… is this comic over??
Welp, Joyce has Fuckface on her head. Might as well join her religion, it’ll be mandatory worldwide within two years. Such combined charisma cannot be challenged.
Hey, think if I submit my will early I can get a nice outdoors job, like replacing the faces on Mt. Rushmore with Jesus, Dexter, Dorothy, and the inventor of Sprite?
Sprite – i.e. colourless lemon-lime flavoured carbonated sugar-water – was invented by my great-great-great uncle, William Evill, who was then co-proprietor of Schweppes.
Actually, despite the giga-daws I’m feeling for Joyce and Fuckface, I still feel it could be topped by Dina (and Dina’s hat) and Fuckface. Triple-lizard c-c-c-comboooo breaker!
I only just learned that term a few days ago, from a coworker that was about to have one. Timing. Anyway, I don’t trust the idea, I don’t like it. Would have been happier if Joyce had just left it as storytime. *Pouts*
I mean, Sal probably has a lot of complicated/conflicted feelings about the robberies and not necessarily just guilt/regret. Especially if she really did them for Marcie, like the flashbacks seem to be setting up to reveal.
But Joyce thinks Sal just needs to “testify”, which feels like it stems from this overly reductive/simplistic view of why Sal committed the robberies. And Sal’s probably already had to put up with a lot of people making assumptions about how she feels about her past. Props to her for dealing with Joyce as well as she has. Also for resisting Joyce+Fuckface’s combined power.
BBCC
I think her motivations for the second robbery (the one Amber witnessed) are going to shape up to be complicated as well. We know at least in part it was about lashing out at her parents being shitheads (the reason she didn’t wear a mask was she wanted to get caught, which isn’t terribly conducive to helping Marcie).
In this context, witnessing for Jesus Christ means telling your rough and tumble sin stories, and how Jesus got you back on the straight and narrow, bearing witness to the redemptive power he had in your life. It’s similar to AA testimonials, if that helps any, just for any old sin instead of exclusively alcohol abuse.
Sal’s eyes in panel 4 make me want to give her a hug. Also, while she has no obligation to give Joyce any sort of story or help her understand who she is, it might actually help her. For all of Joyce’s faults(and let’s face it, she has plenty) she does try and listen, and Sal having another friend who knows more about her wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. It might also be a good learning experience for Joyce.
As for Fuckface? I suspect Joyce is simply a source of warmth, but hey at least it is adorable.
Also, I know someone said it yesterday, but panel 4 Sal really does look a lot like Walky. He has made almost that exact same face before, though I don’t remember when.
Honestly, I think the best person to get that story out of her first would be Danny, precisely because I don’t think he’d ask for it. As cute as it is, Joyce demanding story time was almost never gonna get anything out of Sal. She might get it from her if she just talks to Sal about other things – and really let Sal talk – but this wasn’t ever gonna work. Danny’s been very good at letting Sal have little moments of vulnerability because he doesn’t push her towards it, but he’s still very encouraging when it happens.
That is an excellent point, Danny has also proven to be a lot better for Sal anyway. She seems to genuinely relax and enjoy herself when she spends time with him moreso than anyone else, other than Marcie at least. Granted I haven’t seen her interact with Marcie other than that last time with Malaya, and having Malaya around is stressful/annoying for generally everyone.
BBCC
Yeah, we never got to see much of them alone, and it’s been shown a few times that it’s even hard for Marcie sometimes. (Ex. When Marcie caught her about to knock Malaya’s teeth down her throat, Sal said she missed Marcie and ‘that’s a genuine feelin’ an emotion from me’). Sal pretty clearly considers Marcie the one person she could be vulnerable with before, because she trusted Marcie not to ditch her if it was something that didn’t gel with what she wanted Sal to be and she trusted her not to treat Sal poorly because of whatever feelings she had.
Danny’s like that too – he doesn’t really seem to have any sort of image of Sal in his head (be it ‘cool rebel girl’ or ‘awful delinquent girl’) so he just…chills.
Kyrik Michalowski
I like the way Danny and Sal’s relationship is going, I don’t know if it is going to be more than just friends eventually and really it doesn’t need to be. While I think they might make a good couple, I think their friendship is more important for both of them, and that’s awesome. And I hope that Sal and Marcie can continue to be friends despite Malaya’s existence. I am on Sal’s side in that I really don’t like Malaya but I also see no end in sight of her unfortunately.
BBCC
I think they’d be good as either friends or a couple, but right now, I’m enjoying the friendship. And I’m relatively confident Sal and Marcie will make up eventually – maybe not soon (though I wish it would be) but eventually. I can’t relate about Malaya (I’ve been fond of her since Shortpacked!) but I can definitely get why she’d be…grating to deal with.
Sal should definitely talk about her story to someone, but maybe not to the person who’s treating it like she’s about to hear Dr. Seuss. Like, it’d be a different thing if Sal initiated it, but Joyce going “Storytime! Storytime!” like a child feels.. patronizing to say the least.
In her defense, trauma is not easy to just casually talk about, and when someone is pushy about it, it’s even harder to want to discuss it. I’m sure Sal would have a much easier time talking about this with someone like Danny. Speaking from personal experience, it is much easier to have a small number of people that you open up to about stuff like that. And you choose the people, you don’t generally tell them just because they ask.
I have really not been impressed with Malaya’s displayed pet ownership skills.
(Particularly as Fuckface is both contraband and an exotic pet, iguanas aren’t really a ‘beginner’ pet, and there is a very real chance of serious injury. Even if Fuckface doesn’t bite, someone like Joyce showing up with a bunch of scratches on her arms is going to raise concerns. Sal can cover them up and wears heavy jackets, Carla can pass them off as something skating related somehow, but they’d be noticed on Joyce.)
I mean, Joyce wears turtleneck sweaters all the time. She’s literally wearing one in comic right now. It wouldn’t be that hard for her to hide scratches on her arms for a bit.
Regalli
It’ll hide, but probably not prevent them entirely, and Joyce lives with someone who’s not in on the Secret Iguana Shenanigans and would therefore likely freak out if she saw them. (Iguana scratchmarks on an arm could very possibly be misinterpreted.)
BBCC
And god forbid Dorothy or Becky find them. Between Sarah, Becky, Dorothy, Joss and Sal, Joyce has a lot of sister figures and only one of them is in on this.
Regalli
I mention Sarah in particular because Sarah has past experience with a roommate with depression and is kind of expecting Joyce to lose her exuberance because life, but you’re right. Becky seeing them could be equally disastrous, and Dorothy would also be Immediately Concerned.
Joyce is the weakest link of iguana secrecy, I think it’s safe to say.
165 thoughts on “Storytime”
toby
SHES BECOME TOO POWERFUL
LeslieBean4Shizzle
Joyce has Fuckface-head! Alert! Joyce has Fuckface-head!
We warned them, but they didn’t listen. They didn’t listen!
Batman
Do not let Becky see this…..
Deanatay
Wait, what just happened? Joyce was talking to Sal, and then suddenly Joyce was replaced with this SUPER AWESOME PERSON! I didn’t see the transition… is this comic over??
Willinwoods
Oh it’s not over, don’t be silly! It’s only dab dab dab dab dab dab! Dab dab?
Doctor_Who
Welp, Joyce has Fuckface on her head. Might as well join her religion, it’ll be mandatory worldwide within two years. Such combined charisma cannot be challenged.
Hey, think if I submit my will early I can get a nice outdoors job, like replacing the faces on Mt. Rushmore with Jesus, Dexter, Dorothy, and the inventor of Sprite?
Wright
You could probably get a high-paying job crafting legislation about only serving pizza toppings in little side dishes.
Agemegos
Sprite – i.e. colourless lemon-lime flavoured carbonated sugar-water – was invented by my great-great-great uncle, William Evill, who was then co-proprietor of Schweppes.
Stu
I’m genuinely unsure what emotion is meant to be on display in panel 4. If it’s bewilderment, I guess it’d match my own.
Deanatay
Sal is feeling a surge of glee, but, being Sal, is struggling to keep her face completely expressionless. In panel 7, her resolve is crumbling.
Mr D
Why is Sal oing all teary eyed?
Doctor_Who
In That Other Universe, Fuckface is basically the Hypnotoad. Having him on your head makes you impossible to resist.
Zathras10
Ah yes, I remember this from 2nd Edition. It’s a Lizard Helm of Persuasion (+5 charisma, +2 on all saving throws)
Zathras10
Oops. This was meant to go below BBCC’s comment below.
NotPiffany
It fits under the Doctor’s comment just as well, honestly.
Zathras10
True, that.
BBCC
It’s the hypnotic affect Fuckface has.
Stupid lizard gives too much charisma to whoever has it on their head. It’s the cuteness factor. And Joyce is already adorable enough.
shadowcell
AH FEEL THE POWA OF FUCKFACE MOVIN’ THROUGH ME
CAN YA FEEL IT
CAN YA FEEL IT, FOLKS
PUH-RAISE FUCKFACE, Y’ALL
Wizard
Can I get an “Amen!”
Amen! and Hallelujah!
Cheshrin
Sal’s expression in panel four tho. Even she was swayed by the power that is Fuckface, even if for just a moment.
(Panel 5 Joyce totally knows how powerful she is with Fuckface on her head. Soon she will be unstoppable.)
TemporalShrew
I hope Joyce is just Fuckface’s favorite person from this point on.
newllend(henryvolt)
Dina and Malaya would be Jealous of what they have.
Deanatay
Actually, despite the giga-daws I’m feeling for Joyce and Fuckface, I still feel it could be topped by Dina (and Dina’s hat) and Fuckface. Triple-lizard c-c-c-comboooo breaker!
BBCC
Pfft! Well, at least Sal’s realistic about it.
And Joyce, sweetie, if you keep calling it her ‘witness testimony’, you’re never gonna get to hear it.
ShinyNeen
I only just learned that term a few days ago, from a coworker that was about to have one. Timing. Anyway, I don’t trust the idea, I don’t like it. Would have been happier if Joyce had just left it as storytime. *Pouts*
ShinyNeen
I mean, Sal probably has a lot of complicated/conflicted feelings about the robberies and not necessarily just guilt/regret. Especially if she really did them for Marcie, like the flashbacks seem to be setting up to reveal.
But Joyce thinks Sal just needs to “testify”, which feels like it stems from this overly reductive/simplistic view of why Sal committed the robberies. And Sal’s probably already had to put up with a lot of people making assumptions about how she feels about her past. Props to her for dealing with Joyce as well as she has. Also for resisting Joyce+Fuckface’s combined power.
BBCC
I think her motivations for the second robbery (the one Amber witnessed) are going to shape up to be complicated as well. We know at least in part it was about lashing out at her parents being shitheads (the reason she didn’t wear a mask was she wanted to get caught, which isn’t terribly conducive to helping Marcie).
Rycan
I wonder if “witness testimony” means something different to the fundamentalist crowd – like some testimony before Jesus or something.
the final pam
I mean, Joyce kinda implied as much: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/streetfightin/
Lone Duck
In this context, witnessing for Jesus Christ means telling your rough and tumble sin stories, and how Jesus got you back on the straight and narrow, bearing witness to the redemptive power he had in your life. It’s similar to AA testimonials, if that helps any, just for any old sin instead of exclusively alcohol abuse.
auroki
They have fused! Behold FuckJoyce! Wait…..
Khyrin
JoyceFace Brown, She Who Possesses the Triangle Smile: Hallowed be her name.
auroki
Great now I got Iron Maiden back in my head again
Michael Steamweed
I’ll happily behold that. Next Slipshine, yesyes??
Kyrik Michalowski
Sal’s eyes in panel 4 make me want to give her a hug. Also, while she has no obligation to give Joyce any sort of story or help her understand who she is, it might actually help her. For all of Joyce’s faults(and let’s face it, she has plenty) she does try and listen, and Sal having another friend who knows more about her wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. It might also be a good learning experience for Joyce.
As for Fuckface? I suspect Joyce is simply a source of warmth, but hey at least it is adorable.
Kyrik Michalowski
Also, I know someone said it yesterday, but panel 4 Sal really does look a lot like Walky. He has made almost that exact same face before, though I don’t remember when.
King Daniel
Panel 6, too.
BBCC
Honestly, I think the best person to get that story out of her first would be Danny, precisely because I don’t think he’d ask for it. As cute as it is, Joyce demanding story time was almost never gonna get anything out of Sal. She might get it from her if she just talks to Sal about other things – and really let Sal talk – but this wasn’t ever gonna work. Danny’s been very good at letting Sal have little moments of vulnerability because he doesn’t push her towards it, but he’s still very encouraging when it happens.
Rabid Rabbit
It especially doesn’t work if she calls it her “witness testimony”. As we know, Sal found leather at Catholic school, not Jesus.
Of course, for Joyce, that’s not real Christian school. But still.
BBCC
Yeeeeep. Sal hated that school. That uniform’s only usefulness is keeping her parents from hounding her about her clothes.
And yeah, it’s probably for the best. If she were any more Catholic, Joyce’d break in hives. 😛
Kyrik Michalowski
That is an excellent point, Danny has also proven to be a lot better for Sal anyway. She seems to genuinely relax and enjoy herself when she spends time with him moreso than anyone else, other than Marcie at least. Granted I haven’t seen her interact with Marcie other than that last time with Malaya, and having Malaya around is stressful/annoying for generally everyone.
BBCC
Yeah, we never got to see much of them alone, and it’s been shown a few times that it’s even hard for Marcie sometimes. (Ex. When Marcie caught her about to knock Malaya’s teeth down her throat, Sal said she missed Marcie and ‘that’s a genuine feelin’ an emotion from me’). Sal pretty clearly considers Marcie the one person she could be vulnerable with before, because she trusted Marcie not to ditch her if it was something that didn’t gel with what she wanted Sal to be and she trusted her not to treat Sal poorly because of whatever feelings she had.
Danny’s like that too – he doesn’t really seem to have any sort of image of Sal in his head (be it ‘cool rebel girl’ or ‘awful delinquent girl’) so he just…chills.
Kyrik Michalowski
I like the way Danny and Sal’s relationship is going, I don’t know if it is going to be more than just friends eventually and really it doesn’t need to be. While I think they might make a good couple, I think their friendship is more important for both of them, and that’s awesome. And I hope that Sal and Marcie can continue to be friends despite Malaya’s existence. I am on Sal’s side in that I really don’t like Malaya but I also see no end in sight of her unfortunately.
BBCC
I think they’d be good as either friends or a couple, but right now, I’m enjoying the friendship. And I’m relatively confident Sal and Marcie will make up eventually – maybe not soon (though I wish it would be) but eventually. I can’t relate about Malaya (I’ve been fond of her since Shortpacked!) but I can definitely get why she’d be…grating to deal with.
the final pam
Sal should definitely talk about her story to someone, but maybe not to the person who’s treating it like she’s about to hear Dr. Seuss. Like, it’d be a different thing if Sal initiated it, but Joyce going “Storytime! Storytime!” like a child feels.. patronizing to say the least.
Regalli
Dr. Seuss or the newly-converting sinner in church. Don’t forget the witnessing part.
Double the patronizing! Double the Sal not wanting to deal with this!
Stephen Bierce
*one of the speakers is playing the leek scene from Henry V for some reason*
Defensor
As I was say, Sal, you don’t exactly make it easy for people to get to know you!
Kyrik Michalowski
In her defense, trauma is not easy to just casually talk about, and when someone is pushy about it, it’s even harder to want to discuss it. I’m sure Sal would have a much easier time talking about this with someone like Danny. Speaking from personal experience, it is much easier to have a small number of people that you open up to about stuff like that. And you choose the people, you don’t generally tell them just because they ask.
Darkoneko
No matter what, i’ll NEVER want an ignana on my head. Ew.
only cats are allowed up there.
King Daniel
You would deny yourself the ultimate cosmic power that would be granted you by
the doilyhaving Fuckface on your head?MatthewTheLucky
I’m very happy that that meme is back.
Darkoneko
Yes.
Roborat
Well, judging by the size of him, he is probably pretty heavy.
Ele
80% chicken tender salads are the only ones I’ll eat.
adjudicus
I like to think that Carla’s just behind Sal, and she’s the one who put Fuckface on joyce
Dana
An artifact of incredible power!
Tacos
Joyce has grown too powerful.
butts
…
fuckface best character
(sorry dina)
Kyrik Michalowski
Fuckface best nonhuman character*
Dina is still the best. <3
Bonnabella
Aaaand now I suddenly ship Sal and Joyce.
Dana
Joyce and Mike forevah!
Clif
How come no-one ever says Joyce and Tony? (No, I’m not saying it either).
BBCC
Because they’re nostalgic for Sal and Tony!
…Wait that’s just me? Oh.
BBCC
Also – geez, Malaya, feed your iguana, don’t leave that to Sal (and Carla).
Regalli
I have really not been impressed with Malaya’s displayed pet ownership skills.
(Particularly as Fuckface is both contraband and an exotic pet, iguanas aren’t really a ‘beginner’ pet, and there is a very real chance of serious injury. Even if Fuckface doesn’t bite, someone like Joyce showing up with a bunch of scratches on her arms is going to raise concerns. Sal can cover them up and wears heavy jackets, Carla can pass them off as something skating related somehow, but they’d be noticed on Joyce.)
the final pam
I mean, Joyce wears turtleneck sweaters all the time. She’s literally wearing one in comic right now. It wouldn’t be that hard for her to hide scratches on her arms for a bit.
Regalli
It’ll hide, but probably not prevent them entirely, and Joyce lives with someone who’s not in on the Secret Iguana Shenanigans and would therefore likely freak out if she saw them. (Iguana scratchmarks on an arm could very possibly be misinterpreted.)
BBCC
And god forbid Dorothy or Becky find them. Between Sarah, Becky, Dorothy, Joss and Sal, Joyce has a lot of sister figures and only one of them is in on this.
Regalli
I mention Sarah in particular because Sarah has past experience with a roommate with depression and is kind of expecting Joyce to lose her exuberance because life, but you’re right. Becky seeing them could be equally disastrous, and Dorothy would also be Immediately Concerned.
Joyce is the weakest link of iguana secrecy, I think it’s safe to say.