lol lucking out with the accidental charm, idk if someone who wasn’t as ‘obsessed’ as lucy would , would react teh same way but i’d still prolly be a little bit upset, or at least need some time apart rather than continuing the convo
I mean it probably depends. I can understand insecurity and needing someone else to tell you that someone is actually interested in you. Because in the end, they still did it because they wanted to.
That’s the problem with damage reduction skills, DoTs bypass them half the time.
Disastroid
If he would just use the pillars to stay out of a direct LoS to the crucifix then the healers could keep him topped up. LEARN THE FIGHTS, WALKY.
David DeLaney
don’t STAND in the SOULFIRE jeez
–Dave, but it feels so good when it stops
deliverything
Reminds me of https://youtu.be/GN6Cvq9fdKM (a song about Black Mages in FF14).
For those not familiar: they get a spell that sets a location where they get a big powerup, as long as they stay in it, and spells with long cast times that they’d have to start again if they move, so you don’t want to move unless you have to, and sometimes you misjudge…
Speaking as someone with religious trauma, yeah, I’d like you ALOT if I were willing to go to church with you. I do not approve of what happens in church. Sure some do some good things, but it’s essentially a weekly brainwashing session and for someone who escaped that brainwashing it’s REALLY creepy seeing it happen to other people.
hedgie
Hells, you’re better than me in that regard. I wouldn’t date anyone who even followed those religions.
That doesn’t mean things are collapsing, necessarily! Some people just don’t feel romantic attraction as strongly or as quickly as their partners. The problem was not being honest about it. Walky has said he really likes Lucy and wants more time to get comfortable with Lucy.
(Speaking as someone who often struggles to engage romantically at the same intensity as her partners.)
Imogen
can we try that again
Imogen
once more?
Imogen
no thank you!
Imogen
Sure!
Azhrei Vep
With feeling?
Imogen
Anyways, I just want to say that this ship has honestly grown on me a little over time. Mismatched intensity is a real relationship struggle I identify with! I kind of like the idea of deconstructing the idea of “they aren’t both instantly head over heels, it’s gonna go down in flames”.
clif
But, but, but … I had all this popcorn ready.
Damn you, Willis.
Holly
Yeah, I am enjoying seeing a mature and nuanced representation of negotiating a new relationship. I’ve always thought this relationship has potential to become very strong and a genuine deep and respectful partnership if they can get through the various challenges of inexperience and trauma.
dalniente
Same! It’s been nice to watch. And now oh look, hey, communication and potentially understanding, potential to build a strong foundation. At this point I can see this relationship sort of petering out or solidifying into something really strong. Could go either way. I love it.
I’m still of the idea that Lucy thinks “I want to bang Walky, therefore I must be in love with him.”
I think once she realizes she’s infatuated and horny, not in love, she’ll either break it off herself (Because she actually believes in waiting) or she realizes she’s being silly buggers and does a sex with Walky.
I don’t think they should break up just because they’re at different levels of intimacy already. As long as everyone understands, that’s fine. Which it sounds like they’re on the same page now?
thejeff
They’ve still got more talking they should do and it could still blow up, but I don’t think it’s inherently doomed.
I’m not sure what part of this could be considered submission or how it could be considered bad for Walky to be honestly talking about his feelings in direct response to Lucy’s side of the conversation. Is this one of those “alpha male” mentalities where acknowledging your female partner as a person with feelings and opinions is considered inferior to asserting your will over them?
There’s no “submission” happening in this because, contrary to what certain lunatics might tell you, power does not inform every single human interaction. There’s no power disparity here, they’re not fighting for dominance, no one needs to either submit or conquer in order to express themself. Lucy misinterpreted something, Walky was afraid clarifying would hurt her feelings, she found out and clarifying hurt her feelings, he really did not want to hurt her and now he is both being as gentle as possible about said feelings and trying to clarify that he still does like her. He’s trying to reassure her, for god’s sake. If that seems submissive…yikes.
Dammit everyone’s used a d&d reference before I could >:p
I’ll just have to use a Pathfinder 1st edition reference Walky used wisdom as his dump Stat and a natural charisma of 16 and took up skill focus diplomacy adding a +3 t’s a class skill so another +3 and he ranked up his skill points to 8 he the put his attributes points at level 4 and 8 into charisma which bumps it to an 18 so with that and nat 20 he scored 38 against a DC 35 diplomacy check. So Walkys class is a Bard subclass of some sort. I don’t know what other feats or background skills he took so don’t at me.
I also see why Pathfinder 1st edition isn’t for everyons.
I’m unclear if heretical books also set people on fire or if the Holy Spirit does, in fact, also set heretical books on fire.
David DeLaney
2por que no los dos?
Reltzik
Well, the woodcut showed the Spirit setting the books on fire, and similar woodcuts shows the Spirit setting people being burnt at the stake on fire, but given how imaginative the scenario is we might as well assume that the people spontaneously combust without any books or spirits involved at all.
…. though, come to think of it, the powerful spirits is one of the more plausible explanations for spontaneous human combustion. I’m not sure what that’s a metaphor for, but I’m going to insist that it’s a metaphor for something.
You ever know a person who you look at, knowing something of their life story, and go, “How the fuck are you still alive?” That’s Walky/Lucy right now.
Ughhhhhh I hate this ship so much. This is cute today, but everything else involving them has been so droll and dull and I just have very little faith in their ability to change it.
I feel like droll and dull contradict one another, unless you’re implying something I’m completely failing to grasp?
Smallmoon
to elaborate: Droll means “curious or unusual in a way that provokes dry amusement.” Possibly misunderstood to mean its opposite, as it is most often heard in entertainment coming out of the mouth of dry, sarcastic character with a clear tone of disdain, e.g. “Ah. a commoner treating their social better with contempt, how very droll…”
Firseal
Droll and dull can match precisely due to sarcasm – the person stating something is droll can be said in such a dry way that they imply that the thing is unusual or even something that draws interest, and thus gives a momentary spark of said interest, but they are still so bored of the situation and the quirk that the droll thing cannot sustain any interest.
… just long-windedly noting I see no contradiction here, but then, I am pendantic.
Bittersweet
TIL I’ve been misusing droll my entire life, haha. Hardly the first word I’ve had that issue with.
334 thoughts on “Pretty girls”
Ana Chronistic
JesusWalky savestakes half damage
anon
lol lucking out with the accidental charm, idk if someone who wasn’t as ‘obsessed’ as lucy would , would react teh same way but i’d still prolly be a little bit upset, or at least need some time apart rather than continuing the convo
Shade
I mean it probably depends. I can understand insecurity and needing someone else to tell you that someone is actually interested in you. Because in the end, they still did it because they wanted to.
Gbz
I don’t see anything wrong with talking yo your friends about relationships. That’s how you learn.
Devin
Still better than the ongoing damage he’s taking each round he’s still in the church. Gotta get out!
Schpoonman
That’s the problem with damage reduction skills, DoTs bypass them half the time.
Disastroid
If he would just use the pillars to stay out of a direct LoS to the crucifix then the healers could keep him topped up. LEARN THE FIGHTS, WALKY.
David DeLaney
don’t STAND in the SOULFIRE jeez
–Dave, but it feels so good when it stops
deliverything
Reminds me of https://youtu.be/GN6Cvq9fdKM (a song about Black Mages in FF14).
For those not familiar: they get a spell that sets a location where they get a big powerup, as long as they stay in it, and spells with long cast times that they’d have to start again if they move, so you don’t want to move unless you have to, and sometimes you misjudge…
Hexx
Speaking as someone with religious trauma, yeah, I’d like you ALOT if I were willing to go to church with you. I do not approve of what happens in church. Sure some do some good things, but it’s essentially a weekly brainwashing session and for someone who escaped that brainwashing it’s REALLY creepy seeing it happen to other people.
hedgie
Hells, you’re better than me in that regard. I wouldn’t date anyone who even followed those religions.
bcb
Well Walky is humanity’s Savior.
Opus the Poet
Just not in this universe.
Taellosse
No shit! And against a truly impressive DC, too! He clearly rolled a nat20.
NGPZ
? Get out man!!! GET OUT!!! GET OUT!!!
RassilonTDavros
GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!!
Cholma
Quick! Before the Church Mouse fans notice you and demand autographs!
NGPZ
*plays “Sikiliza Kwa Wahenga” on hacked church speaker*
Jo_Cubstar
GIR!!! Nice gravatar lol also really hope he gets out fast
Marvelman
Huh! How about that? I thought they were about to break up.
fireprincesslily
Honestly they should… Lucy is in this way deeper than Walky and he’s basically told her as much.
Imogen
That doesn’t mean things are collapsing, necessarily! Some people just don’t feel romantic attraction as strongly or as quickly as their partners. The problem was not being honest about it. Walky has said he really likes Lucy and wants more time to get comfortable with Lucy.
(Speaking as someone who often struggles to engage romantically at the same intensity as her partners.)
Imogen
can we try that again
Imogen
once more?
Imogen
no thank you!
Imogen
Sure!
Azhrei Vep
With feeling?
Imogen
Anyways, I just want to say that this ship has honestly grown on me a little over time. Mismatched intensity is a real relationship struggle I identify with! I kind of like the idea of deconstructing the idea of “they aren’t both instantly head over heels, it’s gonna go down in flames”.
clif
But, but, but … I had all this popcorn ready.
Damn you, Willis.
Holly
Yeah, I am enjoying seeing a mature and nuanced representation of negotiating a new relationship. I’ve always thought this relationship has potential to become very strong and a genuine deep and respectful partnership if they can get through the various challenges of inexperience and trauma.
dalniente
Same! It’s been nice to watch. And now oh look, hey, communication and potentially understanding, potential to build a strong foundation. At this point I can see this relationship sort of petering out or solidifying into something really strong. Could go either way. I love it.
Freezer
I’m still of the idea that Lucy thinks “I want to bang Walky, therefore I must be in love with him.”
I think once she realizes she’s infatuated and horny, not in love, she’ll either break it off herself (Because she actually believes in waiting) or she realizes she’s being silly buggers and does a sex with Walky.
Shade
I don’t think they should break up just because they’re at different levels of intimacy already. As long as everyone understands, that’s fine. Which it sounds like they’re on the same page now?
thejeff
They’ve still got more talking they should do and it could still blow up, but I don’t think it’s inherently doomed.
Mendel
yes, but then Walky overtly submitted to her and now she’s pleased again and backed out of her tantrum.
Not a pattern that leads anywhere good.
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
I’m not sure what part of this could be considered submission or how it could be considered bad for Walky to be honestly talking about his feelings in direct response to Lucy’s side of the conversation. Is this one of those “alpha male” mentalities where acknowledging your female partner as a person with feelings and opinions is considered inferior to asserting your will over them?
Schpoonman
That is definitely not what happened.
dalniente
If by “overtly submitted” you mean “was honest,” maybe do some self-reflection, man.
Barf Ninjason
There’s no “submission” happening in this because, contrary to what certain lunatics might tell you, power does not inform every single human interaction. There’s no power disparity here, they’re not fighting for dominance, no one needs to either submit or conquer in order to express themself. Lucy misinterpreted something, Walky was afraid clarifying would hurt her feelings, she found out and clarifying hurt her feelings, he really did not want to hurt her and now he is both being as gentle as possible about said feelings and trying to clarify that he still does like her. He’s trying to reassure her, for god’s sake. If that seems submissive…yikes.
Thag Simmons
That is a fucking miraculous save right there
Leorale
Used an Inspiration to roll a 12; gets a +8 modifier from Vulnerability, it’s good!
Thag Simmons
this is a nat20
Jerach
I mean, literally not, but I get what you mean.
UrsulaDavina
Dammit everyone’s used a d&d reference before I could >:p
I’ll just have to use a Pathfinder 1st edition reference Walky used wisdom as his dump Stat and a natural charisma of 16 and took up skill focus diplomacy adding a +3 t’s a class skill so another +3 and he ranked up his skill points to 8 he the put his attributes points at level 4 and 8 into charisma which bumps it to an 18 so with that and nat 20 he scored 38 against a DC 35 diplomacy check. So Walkys class is a Bard subclass of some sort. I don’t know what other feats or background skills he took so don’t at me.
I also see why Pathfinder 1st edition isn’t for everyons.
David DeLaney
or, honestly, a sorcerer
–Dave, the class is all about talking the world into causing magic to happen for you, yeah, like that, baby, wuv oo
khn0
try Rolemaster…
UrsulaDavina
Nah I love pathfinder 1st edition, but I once heard someone say that high level character in pathfinder is like a dissertation.
khn0
What you don’t want to play with Excel? :p
Lee
Accurate conclusion.
Agemegos
Nah. Easy save. She did it by setting a really low bar.
Walky wasn’t trying to save the ‘ship. He was trying to get out of it without causing any hurt.
Shade
I don’t think he was looking to get out of the relationship at all, I think he’s just being honest.
ktbear
And the fastest way to get out of a relationship is by being honest.
Jamie
The Holy Spirit does, in fact, set people on fire. Fact.
Reltzik
Also, heretical books.
(Source: This one woodcut printing from inquisition times.)
clif
I’m unclear if heretical books also set people on fire or if the Holy Spirit does, in fact, also set heretical books on fire.
David DeLaney
2por que no los dos?
Reltzik
Well, the woodcut showed the Spirit setting the books on fire, and similar woodcuts shows the Spirit setting people being burnt at the stake on fire, but given how imaginative the scenario is we might as well assume that the people spontaneously combust without any books or spirits involved at all.
…. though, come to think of it, the powerful spirits is one of the more plausible explanations for spontaneous human combustion. I’m not sure what that’s a metaphor for, but I’m going to insist that it’s a metaphor for something.
FlyingFish
Like “The Art of the Deal”?
Sirksome
He somehow still saved it?! Noooo! I hate this ship so much!
Thag Simmons
Relationship continually baffles fandom by continuing to live
Amelie Wikström
Boy admits emotional investment in girl; everyone surprised.
Amelie Wikström
Okay, more like “implies”, but sure
JA
You ever know a person who you look at, knowing something of their life story, and go, “How the fuck are you still alive?” That’s Walky/Lucy right now.
Opus the Poet
I see a person like that every time I look in a mirror.
Bittersweet
Ughhhhhh I hate this ship so much. This is cute today, but everything else involving them has been so droll and dull and I just have very little faith in their ability to change it.
Chase
I feel like droll and dull contradict one another, unless you’re implying something I’m completely failing to grasp?
Smallmoon
to elaborate: Droll means “curious or unusual in a way that provokes dry amusement.” Possibly misunderstood to mean its opposite, as it is most often heard in entertainment coming out of the mouth of dry, sarcastic character with a clear tone of disdain, e.g. “Ah. a commoner treating their social better with contempt, how very droll…”
Firseal
Droll and dull can match precisely due to sarcasm – the person stating something is droll can be said in such a dry way that they imply that the thing is unusual or even something that draws interest, and thus gives a momentary spark of said interest, but they are still so bored of the situation and the quirk that the droll thing cannot sustain any interest.
… just long-windedly noting I see no contradiction here, but then, I am pendantic.
Bittersweet
TIL I’ve been misusing droll my entire life, haha. Hardly the first word I’ve had that issue with.
Mark
Why should they want to change it?
Li
I mean they might not want to, but someone not enjoying the ship might still want the dynamic to change.