I’m pretty sure we know that he’s sorry that being a decent and loyal boyfriend forced him to say things that hurt her, despite the fact that her own seemingly desperate and clingy actions forced him to that point.
Of course that assumes that we temporarily ignore the fact that he’s a flesh-eating hell beast who has Satan worshiping at his feet. Taking that into account, he is clearly madly cackling behind that sham demeanor of decency, which is part of a clever act he’s been maintaining since the start of the comic just to screw with us.
John
I’m pretty sure you meant the second paragraph to be ironic and the first one to be straight, but frankly they both read like irony to me.
What did danny ever do? He had a thing with amazi-girl and he didn’t wanna ‘betray’ her because it was going well. He’s just too derpy to not realize. More Amber’s fault for not telling him or at the very least dumping him as Amazi girl properly.
Exactly. The less weird he is the more people can relate to him. We see his mistakes and go “Gee I’ve done that before” and we get mad at ourselves and Danny, but mostly Danny.
Why do you think the weirdest character in the comic is more popular than the main character?
Each comic so far has had a focused character, not exactly a main character, but a focused one. In this comic, that character would be Joyce. In Roomies!, it was Danny; in It’s Walky!, it was Walky; and in Shortpacked, it was Ethan.
That’s not true. He’s truly exceptional both in the areas of doing stupid things out of questionable virtuosity *and* in not understanding things that are done or said around him, yet opening his mouth anyway.
You have to admire the way he is unafraid to prove himself ignorant of the subtle nuances of social interaction in a way that attracts the most contempt. Even in this attempt to apologize, he reveals that he’s not really sure if he did anything wrong, and if so, what it was. He’s not even he really needs to apologize, but he can’t stop himself from trying, seeing as how the interaction had not reached its zenith of awkwardness and cringeworthiness.
What has he ever done that was so horrible? Yes, he blew up at Amber when she was feeling particularly vulnerable, but it’s not as if he just did it out of the blue. She was keeping a huge important secret from him that, under a rather unique set of circumstances, is only really huge or important to them! Nobody else really seriously cares about Amazi-girl. It’s not as if telling him her “secret identity” would put him in danger or something. She kept it from him because she’s just as socially awkward as he is, and just like with him, it’s hurting other people! They’ve both done stuff wrong, but neither of them really did anything THAT wrong.
Lauren
It’s not like Danny even wanted to know the truth. On several occasions he flat out told her not to tell him her identity because it would ruin his fantasy. Subjecting a real girl to rules made up in a comic book tells her that he doesn’t consider her a person. Had he been less dismissive of the truth, she might have felt welcome to tell him and done so earlier.
What he did, that was so terrible was refusing to see and treat her as a person.
Yeah, me too. Sure he’s annoying but it’s just fun to hate on him. DoA Danny isn’t so bad, I’ve kind of enjoyed his story so far.
Old Grognard
Your Gravatar! Someone remembers Reboot!
Yay!
timemonkey
I remember back when it was first airing but it took a long time to finish episodes so they just showed the first half twice in a row. Confused the crap out of me as a kid. ^_^
Roborat
I ran into a few of the creators of the show at a comic con a few years ago, they were trying to reboot Reboot. Haven’t heard anything else about it, but I am still hopefull it will happen.
In real life I probably wouldn’t even notice him being around. But then again I have a sort of bull-in-china-shop way of meandering through life, so I sometimes overlook the details in the dust clouds.
Probably because he reminds of my middle/early high school self, i.e. the reason I can’t be trusted with a time machine. I’d VERY likely end up strangling myself while screeching “WHY ARE YOU SUCH A WHINY SHIT!?”. Then boom, paradoxed out of existence. I was a introspectively whiny dumbass convinced I was a “good guy” just because I stayed out of trouble and adults liked me because I was quiet. Not only that, I never did try to be a good person and constantly bemoaned my life situation, which is, in all honesty, PRETTY FRIGGING GREAT. I’m trying my best to be as helpful to people and supportive for their struggles in a positive and direct way. I’m basically a foil of Mike in that regard.
Danny is NOT a good person, he’s Lawful Neutral. He stays out of trouble, but only to serve his own impulses or desires. Not that he’s wrong to do that, but his often motivated by selfishness when trying to help others. Like when he was agonizing over Roz and Joe’s sex tape, he was bent out of shape because he thought HE’D get caught up in it. And his rejection of Amber after that speech he made just to pursue her costumed vigilante persona in his unrealistic romance fantasy? I would strangle him myself if I was able.
Are you saying he should have worried about Joe and/or Roz? He has known Joe most of his life. He knows how Joe is. No doubt he correctly assumed Joe would enjoy that kind of attention. And Roz.. well.. she went around campus with a giant condom on her head passing out contraceptives. What about a sex tape is going to bother her?
Should he have been worried about himself at all? I don’t remember why/how it affected him.
Rizzle
“Roz.. well.. she went around campus with a giant condom on her head passing out contraceptives. What about a sex tape is going to bother her?”
I’ve known plenty of folks who participate in the former. I feel confident that none of them would be happy with the latter.
Psycho
That’s the thing, kept saying “WE” when referring to the deep shit he thought he was going to get caught up in. If Danny had any right to be angry, it should have been over them filming it while he was present (but asleep), and attaching the camera to his foot. But Danny kept agonizing over the potentially media attention even after Joe made it clear that he was happy to be in the sex tape. Danny was more worried about himself than Joe in that instance, even though he wasn’t involved in the tape and couldn’t be held responsible for it in any way.
What annoys me about him is that he thinks he’s a good guy, but he doesn’t act like one. You’re right that he’s not much worse than the other characters, but he clearly thinks of himself, and presents himself, as one of the best.
The real good guys are those who look out for others, who notice when people need help and then offer it. Most of the time they don’t really realise they’re doing anything unusual. Danny is the opposite: his “good guy” status is, like everything else, entirely in his head. It’s a fantasy of the way he wants others to see him, not something he actually wants to do.
It’s cause being a basically ordinary inoffensive relatively decent guy makes him an easy template for people looking for someone to hate to project their pet hatreds onto.
It’s the opposite of why everyone jacks off to an actually loathesome shithead like Mike.
davidbreslin101
Now, that makes sense. If a character’s main fault is that they’re weak or gullible, we hate on them in a attempt to show we’re not weak like them. If their main fault is that they’re aggressive or self-serving, we praise them because we’d like to seem strong ourselves. Have I understood right?
I suspect that for many long-term Willis fans it’s because the original version of Danny (in Roomies) was whiny and self-righteous. The Dumbing of Age version doesn’t really deserve the hate.
For me, it is because he is a passive loser. Although I would say I look down on him instead of hate.
He thinks that his love is enough for a relationship, not that he needs to contribute anything or have any initiative. Well great Danny, what do you add, what makes YOU lovable? Why should Dorothy both carry you and sex you up?
His dream is to be merely the object in a superhero(ine) story. Again, no action needed on HIS part. Don’t get me wrong, I think women like this aren’t great either, but society judges men like this far more harshly.
No action on his part. No real direction or ambition. Just that putting himself in a story is enough to be carried to a happy ending without earning a thing.
So yeah, in general he may be average, but he makes himself far less so.
Discussion (319) - “Sorry”
Herohatch
I speak on behalf of many when I say: “Damn it, Danny.”
Yotomoe
Dan it, Damny.
JA
Damny it, Dan.
Tachyon
Damn nation.
Tobias
Dan you, Willis.
I dont know what to put here
God Dammit, Ross.
DSL
Book ’em, Danno.
someguywithakatana
*Ech*
Parnifia the Bastard
Dan you to HELL!
Cody B
Danit Janet
Tarkada
d-d-d-du-duh-dang it Danny.
Ross Vernal
I deny everything
Scapegrace
God Dan it.
Keroshino
Danning around at the speed of sound…
Karen
Got places to Dan now, gotta Streetpass Amazi-Girl!
Agentomega
Can’t stick around gotta keep Danny on,
Guess what lies ahead, it’s all up to Galasso!
(been singing this in my head XD)
Karen
So was I… >.>
Felix
Danning around at the speed of Dan, people, do you realize what this means? We have something to power ftl space flights, finally!
tahrey
Here’s your $20.
Znayx
Fuck you, Dan.
Jen Aside
I think we all are, Danno.
Chug
The problem is, what he’s sorry about is the consequences, not the actions/words.
Historyman68
We don’t know that.
Babunga
But we do know danny… XD
begbert2
I’m pretty sure we know that he’s sorry that being a decent and loyal boyfriend forced him to say things that hurt her, despite the fact that her own seemingly desperate and clingy actions forced him to that point.
Of course that assumes that we temporarily ignore the fact that he’s a flesh-eating hell beast who has Satan worshiping at his feet. Taking that into account, he is clearly madly cackling behind that sham demeanor of decency, which is part of a clever act he’s been maintaining since the start of the comic just to screw with us.
John
I’m pretty sure you meant the second paragraph to be ironic and the first one to be straight, but frankly they both read like irony to me.
KingMabel
Too late Danny…
Pizzathehutt
Screw you Danny!
MrMyerst
Made so, so, so much better by your gravatar. xD
Cypriss
What did danny ever do? He had a thing with amazi-girl and he didn’t wanna ‘betray’ her because it was going well. He’s just too derpy to not realize. More Amber’s fault for not telling him or at the very least dumping him as Amazi girl properly.
Raoullefere
At the risk of having R.C. Monroe come after me with a beer stein, this.
LiaHansen
I still don’t understand why people hate on Danny so much. He’s a good guy, he’s just really average.
nothri
This.
PureFedora
Double This.
David Herbert
Super this.
Vash
Ultra this.
Jenny Creed
Triple ultra true.
KingMabel
Exactly. The less weird he is the more people can relate to him. We see his mistakes and go “Gee I’ve done that before” and we get mad at ourselves and Danny, but mostly Danny.
Why do you think the weirdest character in the comic is more popular than the main character?
begbert2
This comic has a main character?
Vash
Each comic so far has had a focused character, not exactly a main character, but a focused one. In this comic, that character would be Joyce. In Roomies!, it was Danny; in It’s Walky!, it was Walky; and in Shortpacked, it was Ethan.
V Missirian
this was helpful to me :-.
-Sentinel-
He reminds me of myself.
(Ignore my gravatar please. :P)
Cthulhu's Intern
Danny fucks people’s moms for nickels?
Thor
That’s not true. He’s truly exceptional both in the areas of doing stupid things out of questionable virtuosity *and* in not understanding things that are done or said around him, yet opening his mouth anyway.
You have to admire the way he is unafraid to prove himself ignorant of the subtle nuances of social interaction in a way that attracts the most contempt. Even in this attempt to apologize, he reveals that he’s not really sure if he did anything wrong, and if so, what it was. He’s not even he really needs to apologize, but he can’t stop himself from trying, seeing as how the interaction had not reached its zenith of awkwardness and cringeworthiness.
The boy is an artist, it has to be said.
LiaHansen
What has he ever done that was so horrible? Yes, he blew up at Amber when she was feeling particularly vulnerable, but it’s not as if he just did it out of the blue. She was keeping a huge important secret from him that, under a rather unique set of circumstances, is only really huge or important to them! Nobody else really seriously cares about Amazi-girl. It’s not as if telling him her “secret identity” would put him in danger or something. She kept it from him because she’s just as socially awkward as he is, and just like with him, it’s hurting other people! They’ve both done stuff wrong, but neither of them really did anything THAT wrong.
Lauren
It’s not like Danny even wanted to know the truth. On several occasions he flat out told her not to tell him her identity because it would ruin his fantasy. Subjecting a real girl to rules made up in a comic book tells her that he doesn’t consider her a person. Had he been less dismissive of the truth, she might have felt welcome to tell him and done so earlier.
What he did, that was so terrible was refusing to see and treat her as a person.
WaytoomanyUIDs
^^^This
Gold
Implying.
Tom T.
Nothing about the mistreatment Amber has subjected him to has involved subtle nuances.
Yotomoe
I dunno why everyone else does it. I just do it as a joke.
That said, Danny’d probably get on my nerves in real life.
timemonkey
Yeah, me too. Sure he’s annoying but it’s just fun to hate on him. DoA Danny isn’t so bad, I’ve kind of enjoyed his story so far.
Old Grognard
Your Gravatar! Someone remembers Reboot!
Yay!
timemonkey
I remember back when it was first airing but it took a long time to finish episodes so they just showed the first half twice in a row. Confused the crap out of me as a kid. ^_^
Roborat
I ran into a few of the creators of the show at a comic con a few years ago, they were trying to reboot Reboot. Haven’t heard anything else about it, but I am still hopefull it will happen.
begbert2
In real life I probably wouldn’t even notice him being around. But then again I have a sort of bull-in-china-shop way of meandering through life, so I sometimes overlook the details in the dust clouds.
Psycho
Probably because he reminds of my middle/early high school self, i.e. the reason I can’t be trusted with a time machine. I’d VERY likely end up strangling myself while screeching “WHY ARE YOU SUCH A WHINY SHIT!?”. Then boom, paradoxed out of existence. I was a introspectively whiny dumbass convinced I was a “good guy” just because I stayed out of trouble and adults liked me because I was quiet. Not only that, I never did try to be a good person and constantly bemoaned my life situation, which is, in all honesty, PRETTY FRIGGING GREAT. I’m trying my best to be as helpful to people and supportive for their struggles in a positive and direct way. I’m basically a foil of Mike in that regard.
Danny is NOT a good person, he’s Lawful Neutral. He stays out of trouble, but only to serve his own impulses or desires. Not that he’s wrong to do that, but his often motivated by selfishness when trying to help others. Like when he was agonizing over Roz and Joe’s sex tape, he was bent out of shape because he thought HE’D get caught up in it. And his rejection of Amber after that speech he made just to pursue her costumed vigilante persona in his unrealistic romance fantasy? I would strangle him myself if I was able.
Psycho
*note, the 2nd to last sentence refers to how I’m trying to act currently, just to clarify.
Morgauxo
Are you saying he should have worried about Joe and/or Roz? He has known Joe most of his life. He knows how Joe is. No doubt he correctly assumed Joe would enjoy that kind of attention. And Roz.. well.. she went around campus with a giant condom on her head passing out contraceptives. What about a sex tape is going to bother her?
Should he have been worried about himself at all? I don’t remember why/how it affected him.
Rizzle
“Roz.. well.. she went around campus with a giant condom on her head passing out contraceptives. What about a sex tape is going to bother her?”
I’ve known plenty of folks who participate in the former. I feel confident that none of them would be happy with the latter.
Psycho
That’s the thing, kept saying “WE” when referring to the deep shit he thought he was going to get caught up in. If Danny had any right to be angry, it should have been over them filming it while he was present (but asleep), and attaching the camera to his foot. But Danny kept agonizing over the potentially media attention even after Joe made it clear that he was happy to be in the sex tape. Danny was more worried about himself than Joe in that instance, even though he wasn’t involved in the tape and couldn’t be held responsible for it in any way.
Logician
What annoys me about him is that he thinks he’s a good guy, but he doesn’t act like one. You’re right that he’s not much worse than the other characters, but he clearly thinks of himself, and presents himself, as one of the best.
The real good guys are those who look out for others, who notice when people need help and then offer it. Most of the time they don’t really realise they’re doing anything unusual. Danny is the opposite: his “good guy” status is, like everything else, entirely in his head. It’s a fantasy of the way he wants others to see him, not something he actually wants to do.
dimblecon
It’s cause being a basically ordinary inoffensive relatively decent guy makes him an easy template for people looking for someone to hate to project their pet hatreds onto.
dimblecon
Oh also, identification aversion.
It’s the opposite of why everyone jacks off to an actually loathesome shithead like Mike.
davidbreslin101
Now, that makes sense. If a character’s main fault is that they’re weak or gullible, we hate on them in a attempt to show we’re not weak like them. If their main fault is that they’re aggressive or self-serving, we praise them because we’d like to seem strong ourselves. Have I understood right?
davidbreslin101
I suspect that for many long-term Willis fans it’s because the original version of Danny (in Roomies) was whiny and self-righteous. The Dumbing of Age version doesn’t really deserve the hate.
Ourorboros
For me, it is because he is a passive loser. Although I would say I look down on him instead of hate.
He thinks that his love is enough for a relationship, not that he needs to contribute anything or have any initiative. Well great Danny, what do you add, what makes YOU lovable? Why should Dorothy both carry you and sex you up?
His dream is to be merely the object in a superhero(ine) story. Again, no action needed on HIS part. Don’t get me wrong, I think women like this aren’t great either, but society judges men like this far more harshly.
No action on his part. No real direction or ambition. Just that putting himself in a story is enough to be carried to a happy ending without earning a thing.
So yeah, in general he may be average, but he makes himself far less so.
V Missirian
this
niblik
I think its easy to pick on him because he makes lots of mistakes, can be a bit thick in the skull, and is uncomfortable around the opposite sex.
You know, like a normal human. Like the rest of us.
Wonder Wig
Quoting Doctor Who wont help you now Danny ol’ boy.
Keroshino
He ain’t no Tennant…that’s for sure!
Plasma Mongoose