bruh. the SNIPER. have we already forgotten about that? ?
Purple Floof
yes we have – we’re too busy staring at butts
Bloody Altima
You say, on a strip that is notably lacking in butts.
Mr D
“There’s no snipers here and there’s no police! I don’t know the guy in camouflage in the roof aiming an M21 at your friend’s forehead”
achallenger
look man, this is america, there’s alwaysa sniper aimed at you when you;’re out in public, you just kinda learn to accept that.
Searcher
I kind of feel like, with Robin pulling the Drama Tag in Shortpacked, it’d be somehow appropriate for the next round of Drama in Dumbing of Age to revolve around Robin being killed by police violence.
tunasammich
Someone on reddit told me that’s just normal at protests before so I guess it’s nbd
Paul
@tunasammich It may be no big deal by the standards of America, but some other countries may be looking askance at you.
they’re already kettling the place, i would not count on that
Oz
tbh I’m confused at how calm everyone is about the fact they are gonna be arrested. I thought you were supposed to try avoiding being arrested? Not only because it sucks but also because if you’re arrested it makes it harder to organize further protests?
Proxiehunter
Getting arrested intentionally was a tactic used in the 60’s. It’s of questionable use in the modern day and I’m not really sure it was a good idea then either.
thejeff
It’s still used occasionally, I think, but mostly by high profile people. It can draw more attention.
Even in this case “professor and former Congressmember arrested at protest” is good publicity.
Reverend Martin Luther King wrote all about this in his letter from Birmingham Jail, on there being moral obligation to break laws when following them does not lead to justice,
it’s about breaking unjust laws so as to call attention to them and get the public to NOT ignore ongoing injustice,
a majority of his strategy was basically about using peaceful tactics to bait white people and authority into being violent so as to get them to disgrace themselves in the public eye and on national television
thejeff
A lot of it was, but there was also a lot of more direct resistance: strikes and boycotts that cost the people discriminating against black people actual money, rather than just drawing attention.
And in that case of course, police/government brutality was a direct part of what he was opposing. That’s something that makes me question some of the strategy of these encampment protests when directed at issues like Gaza. Then initial protest certainly calls attention to the issue itself, but when it’s inevitably broken up violently, much of the focus shifts to police violence and the right to protest, which here is only loosely related to the genocide.
Lien
Why do you doubt how a tactic that allowed them to win was a good idea then ?
(whether it’s still a good idea these days is another question)
It’s fun here and for me in general, so I let it go, but if the comic wanted to go in a more serious direction with the relationship with these two, Robin’s behavior is very easily fucking creepy.
Nono
Yeah it mostly follows ‘rule of comic funny’ like with Carla.
Unfortunately for me I think my personal patience has run out a lot for both Robin and Carla.
DailyBrad
I think it basically works, in much the same way as the universe shitting on Danny in the early stages of the comic, as Willis jokingly rebuking their own work, in this case, how Robin could be so self-centered and clueless in Shortpacked, but Leslie tolerated it with only scattered exceptions.
Here, Robin is honestly hardly even doing anything some of the times Leslie’s patience meter runs dry (not this instance, this is obviously an example of Robin being inappropriate), yet Leslie’s type seems to be… kind of a huge mess in general, judging by the terrible dentist she dated/is dating still?
Robin hits a sweet spot of being a lot more competent than she seems, but still not quite competent enough. Like when she got extra security when Ross was out on bail.
I mean her loud obnoxiousness might be enough to distract others to get away but her being a meat shield would be a sacrifice i’m fine with if someone has to get shot today 😛
I remember when Robin repeatedly forced her way into Leslie’s home and slept on her couch for several days under the eye of national TV and Leslie didn’t dare call the cops. Might be time for some karmic payback.
Never actually knew who Speedy Gonzalez was… just went, “Yeah, that sure is somebody this lunch special is named after.” (I see this on menus around here a lot– at a certain level of Mexican chain restaurants, but not all part of the same chain. Like three or four different ones? Anyway, curious if people in other places see the same– I’m in Michigan.)
sultryglebe
As a 53-year old, I would see Speedy Gonzalez cartoons on afternoon cartoon shows but as reruns. The cartoons were made in the 50s and 60s. He was just a very fast mouse, with all of the other mice being slow, which I did not realize as a child was a way of saying Mexicans were lazy siesta-takers. So, maybe not the best thing to look up.
Yumi
Yeah, it’s…odd that multiple places have that on their menu.
Tawnee
Well, as with most things, it’s grey and open to interpretation as to how good a thing to look up. Cartoon Network took Speedy Gonzales off in 1999, and brought him back a few years later after a backlash about his removal from Hispanic groups.
Mr D
I really, really don’t like american white people doing the thing where they get offended in place of a minority group that mostly doesn’t see a problem with (insert problematic issue here).
(Saying this as a mixed-race latino.)
Crow
Yeah kids, make sure you don’t look up information about anything that might have been offensive. Keep your google searches pure. Only learn about non-problematic things.
Charles Phipps
As a Hispanic friend said, “Speedy Gonzales is a national stereotype but he’s brave, fast, and hilarious. We also don’t forget that if you remove Speedy, then there’s no Spanish speaking Loony Toons.”
Adam Black
Unfortunately stereotypes + lack of representation work.
when I moved to LA i was surprised to be find the Open, Gracious, friendly Relaxed stereotype of Californians was almost entirely from Mexican Americans, and whites were pretty uptight.
and I had been lied to about Mexicans growing up by stuff like Speedy Gonzales cartoons.
After a lifetime this stuff adds up.
thejeff
I don’t remember that aspect, though I haven’t seen a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon in decades. He was a super-fast mouse, the other mice were just normal speed, not especially slow – at least as I remember it.
He had a cousin, Slowpoke Rodriguez, “The Slowest Mouse in All Mexico”, who showed up in a few episodes, generally requiring Speedy to save him. But yeah, most of the mice were just not speedsters.
Charles Phipps
Clarification from an old fart: Slow Poke Rodriguez was assumed to be vulnerable but he carried a huge gun and could defend himself that way from cats.
probably why he doesn’t show up more.
thejeff
I do remember Slowpoke Rodriguez and one of the cats chasing them going “I just remembered. Slowpoke Rodriguez, he pack a gun!”
Adam Black
I just looked him up, apparently slowpoke is smart, has mind control powers, and carries a giant gun.
I literally do that all the time. Also to people that I try to reply to. This is a terrible format.
I’m sorry; smartphones have existed for almost twenty years. At some point when are we going to stop having a tiny a tiny five-letter link be the main form of chatting, especially when it’s one space away from a giant thirteen-letter link that basically says “Fuck this person, their comment shouldn’t exist.”
Adam Black
Lets make it more explicit like that
eh, whatever
Huh? They have the same font size for me. The strange part is that it’s “Reply Report comment” without interruption.
assuming cops aren’t pissy and would smack them from doing a dumb face (i mean other than bodycams or it being a public place where normal citizens could see/potentially record if they didn’t like have some high res flashlight to shine in their eyes as a form of harassment that they couldn’t take counter-legal action against)
You assume their body cams aren’t mysteriously turned off.
Schol-R-LEA;2
Don’t be ridiculous, we know that the police department who not only covered for Blaine but actively helped him commit crimes until he became a liability that they had to silence at the behest of local organized crime would never do anything morally questionable.
Charles Phipps
But clearly Blaine was bad and thus the cops were good – Some posters defending cops.
🙂
thejeff
There is a difference between the mob having bribed one cop and the entire department helping Blaine.
Which isn’t to say the cops don’t do shady shit on systemic level, especially when it comes to protests and harassment.
What is this barbie/ken meme that they are referencing?
Also, please don’t let anyone die here. It took a long time to get over Mike, and he was an asshole. Losing someone we actually like will take far longer than it was to get over Mike.
201 thoughts on “Hotbutton”
butts
she’s more than Robinough
Nadamás
Boooo
Antsan
I hope she isn’t Robinough on anybody.
NGPZ
as endearing a comic dumbass Robin can be,
I sincerely hope she’s wise enough to just shut the fuck up around cops
mindbleach
I hope the tone of this arc is light enough that it doesn’t matter.
Thag Simmons
I don’t know if I’d bet on that.
NGPZ
bruh. the SNIPER. have we already forgotten about that? ?
Purple Floof
yes we have – we’re too busy staring at butts
Bloody Altima
You say, on a strip that is notably lacking in butts.
Mr D
“There’s no snipers here and there’s no police! I don’t know the guy in camouflage in the roof aiming an M21 at your friend’s forehead”
achallenger
look man, this is america, there’s alwaysa sniper aimed at you when you;’re out in public, you just kinda learn to accept that.
Searcher
I kind of feel like, with Robin pulling the Drama Tag in Shortpacked, it’d be somehow appropriate for the next round of Drama in Dumbing of Age to revolve around Robin being killed by police violence.
tunasammich
Someone on reddit told me that’s just normal at protests before so I guess it’s nbd
Paul
@tunasammich It may be no big deal by the standards of America, but some other countries may be looking askance at you.
butts
they’re already kettling the place, i would not count on that
Oz
tbh I’m confused at how calm everyone is about the fact they are gonna be arrested. I thought you were supposed to try avoiding being arrested? Not only because it sucks but also because if you’re arrested it makes it harder to organize further protests?
Proxiehunter
Getting arrested intentionally was a tactic used in the 60’s. It’s of questionable use in the modern day and I’m not really sure it was a good idea then either.
thejeff
It’s still used occasionally, I think, but mostly by high profile people. It can draw more attention.
Even in this case “professor and former Congressmember arrested at protest” is good publicity.
NGPZ
Reverend Martin Luther King wrote all about this in his letter from Birmingham Jail, on there being moral obligation to break laws when following them does not lead to justice,
it’s about breaking unjust laws so as to call attention to them and get the public to NOT ignore ongoing injustice,
a majority of his strategy was basically about using peaceful tactics to bait white people and authority into being violent so as to get them to disgrace themselves in the public eye and on national television
thejeff
A lot of it was, but there was also a lot of more direct resistance: strikes and boycotts that cost the people discriminating against black people actual money, rather than just drawing attention.
And in that case of course, police/government brutality was a direct part of what he was opposing. That’s something that makes me question some of the strategy of these encampment protests when directed at issues like Gaza. Then initial protest certainly calls attention to the issue itself, but when it’s inevitably broken up violently, much of the focus shifts to police violence and the right to protest, which here is only loosely related to the genocide.
Lien
Why do you doubt how a tactic that allowed them to win was a good idea then ?
(whether it’s still a good idea these days is another question)
Nono
I feel like she’s teetering on insufferable for me here, if only because Leslie is just so not interested in her and she keeps pushing her luck.
Yumi
It’s fun here and for me in general, so I let it go, but if the comic wanted to go in a more serious direction with the relationship with these two, Robin’s behavior is very easily fucking creepy.
Nono
Yeah it mostly follows ‘rule of comic funny’ like with Carla.
Unfortunately for me I think my personal patience has run out a lot for both Robin and Carla.
DailyBrad
I think it basically works, in much the same way as the universe shitting on Danny in the early stages of the comic, as Willis jokingly rebuking their own work, in this case, how Robin could be so self-centered and clueless in Shortpacked, but Leslie tolerated it with only scattered exceptions.
Here, Robin is honestly hardly even doing anything some of the times Leslie’s patience meter runs dry (not this instance, this is obviously an example of Robin being inappropriate), yet Leslie’s type seems to be… kind of a huge mess in general, judging by the terrible dentist she dated/is dating still?
HueSatLight
Robin hits a sweet spot of being a lot more competent than she seems, but still not quite competent enough. Like when she got extra security when Ross was out on bail.
Needfuldoer
She’s more street-smart than book-smart.
StClair
I can tell you now: she is not.
anon
I mean her loud obnoxiousness might be enough to distract others to get away but her being a meat shield would be a sacrifice i’m fine with if someone has to get shot today 😛
Amelie Wikström
I remember when Robin repeatedly forced her way into Leslie’s home and slept on her couch for several days under the eye of national TV and Leslie didn’t dare call the cops. Might be time for some karmic payback.
Pylgrim
Am I misremembering or is Robin latina? Because if she is, she might get more than she bargained for from this administration.
anon
@pylgrim: her last name IS desanto…
Suet
Too late, Robin, Becky and Dina already “did it”.
A meal? A succulent Chinese meal???
Laura
Hmm?
Purple Floof
Democracy manifest
Kyulen
I see you know your judo well
someone
Ta ta and farewell!
Suet
took me long enough
DailyBrad
Robin continues to basically be Daffy Duck in human form.
jeffepp
She used to be Speedy Gonzalez, for whom Daffy was an occasional antagonist.
Yumi
Never actually knew who Speedy Gonzalez was… just went, “Yeah, that sure is somebody this lunch special is named after.” (I see this on menus around here a lot– at a certain level of Mexican chain restaurants, but not all part of the same chain. Like three or four different ones? Anyway, curious if people in other places see the same– I’m in Michigan.)
sultryglebe
As a 53-year old, I would see Speedy Gonzalez cartoons on afternoon cartoon shows but as reruns. The cartoons were made in the 50s and 60s. He was just a very fast mouse, with all of the other mice being slow, which I did not realize as a child was a way of saying Mexicans were lazy siesta-takers. So, maybe not the best thing to look up.
Yumi
Yeah, it’s…odd that multiple places have that on their menu.
Tawnee
Well, as with most things, it’s grey and open to interpretation as to how good a thing to look up. Cartoon Network took Speedy Gonzales off in 1999, and brought him back a few years later after a backlash about his removal from Hispanic groups.
Mr D
I really, really don’t like american white people doing the thing where they get offended in place of a minority group that mostly doesn’t see a problem with (insert problematic issue here).
(Saying this as a mixed-race latino.)
Crow
Yeah kids, make sure you don’t look up information about anything that might have been offensive. Keep your google searches pure. Only learn about non-problematic things.
Charles Phipps
As a Hispanic friend said, “Speedy Gonzales is a national stereotype but he’s brave, fast, and hilarious. We also don’t forget that if you remove Speedy, then there’s no Spanish speaking Loony Toons.”
Adam Black
Unfortunately stereotypes + lack of representation work.
when I moved to LA i was surprised to be find the Open, Gracious, friendly Relaxed stereotype of Californians was almost entirely from Mexican Americans, and whites were pretty uptight.
and I had been lied to about Mexicans growing up by stuff like Speedy Gonzales cartoons.
After a lifetime this stuff adds up.
thejeff
I don’t remember that aspect, though I haven’t seen a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon in decades. He was a super-fast mouse, the other mice were just normal speed, not especially slow – at least as I remember it.
John Campbell
He had a cousin, Slowpoke Rodriguez, “The Slowest Mouse in All Mexico”, who showed up in a few episodes, generally requiring Speedy to save him. But yeah, most of the mice were just not speedsters.
Charles Phipps
Clarification from an old fart: Slow Poke Rodriguez was assumed to be vulnerable but he carried a huge gun and could defend himself that way from cats.
probably why he doesn’t show up more.
thejeff
I do remember Slowpoke Rodriguez and one of the cats chasing them going “I just remembered. Slowpoke Rodriguez, he pack a gun!”
Adam Black
I just looked him up, apparently slowpoke is smart, has mind control powers, and carries a giant gun.
Scolopendra
Doctor doctor I require 5000% more of these divorced moms in this comic
jeffepp
Bertha and Ernesta
jeffepp
And… I accidentally flagged my own comment.
Thing2
Own goal?
BorkBorkBork
I literally do that all the time. Also to people that I try to reply to. This is a terrible format.
I’m sorry; smartphones have existed for almost twenty years. At some point when are we going to stop having a tiny a tiny five-letter link be the main form of chatting, especially when it’s one space away from a giant thirteen-letter link that basically says “Fuck this person, their comment shouldn’t exist.”
Adam Black
Lets make it more explicit like that
eh, whatever
Huh? They have the same font size for me. The strange part is that it’s “Reply Report comment” without interruption.
Schpoonman
Cops arresting a political apostate minority that threw the local election?
Can’t see why that would ever happen.
Yumi
Oh, they should definitely meme their mugshots.
anon
assuming cops aren’t pissy and would smack them from doing a dumb face (i mean other than bodycams or it being a public place where normal citizens could see/potentially record if they didn’t like have some high res flashlight to shine in their eyes as a form of harassment that they couldn’t take counter-legal action against)
Proxiehunter
You assume their body cams aren’t mysteriously turned off.
Schol-R-LEA;2
Don’t be ridiculous, we know that the police department who not only covered for Blaine but actively helped him commit crimes until he became a liability that they had to silence at the behest of local organized crime would never do anything morally questionable.
Charles Phipps
But clearly Blaine was bad and thus the cops were good – Some posters defending cops.
🙂
thejeff
There is a difference between the mob having bribed one cop and the entire department helping Blaine.
Which isn’t to say the cops don’t do shady shit on systemic level, especially when it comes to protests and harassment.
ZombieKyrik
What is this barbie/ken meme that they are referencing?
Also, please don’t let anyone die here. It took a long time to get over Mike, and he was an asshole. Losing someone we actually like will take far longer than it was to get over Mike.
Pegs
It’s from the Barbie movie. Ken is in the mugshot with a gleeful, himbo smile and Barbe is genuinely upset.
Yumi
Here ya go: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/barbie-and-ken-mugshot-redraws
NGPZ
omg LOL XD
thanks
Needfuldoer
There’s one of Becky and Dina around somewhere.