Jesus: Dat religion to get you to the door, Dat Ass to get you in and praying for your mortal soul!
David
Numbers 22:27 And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam’s anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff.
So much for Dat Ass being useful for getting in.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
As the Holy Book says in the Book of Holes, Chapter 1: “And they knew not their holes, from an ass, on the ground.”
Sev
Hey, dat ass saved his life!
Mortartarsaus
The Son of God did not come to be served, but to serve… DAT ASS!
The question is how long will it take for her to admit it? Especially since Joyce knows Sarah has a crush on him too and Joyce was trying to set Sarah up with him (which might have even worked if Sarah hadn’t self-sabotaged). Also, Joyce and Jacob are a really good match personality and interest wise.
Dorothy’s congregation may be basket-case fundies but they don’t strike me as the super-racist type.
Amias
I take it you mean Joyce’s, since Dorothy almost certainly doesn’t have a congregation.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
She’s an atheist. so she has a congregation down at the Satanic Temple, duh.
butts
really, i don’t know why more people don’t show up, the blood orgies are a ton of fun and child sacrifice is a great bonding experience
Skizz
We are out of children. Black goat this week.
Dellaran
Awww man, *again*?
Jaxx Sentinel
We used the last batch for the monthly sacrifice to the great Gaben for half life 3. We’re about 3 percent of the way there though
Mishyana
Gaben laughs at your sacrifice and uses their power to make more hats for Team Fortress 2.
Needfuldoer
Hats and random nerfs for Pyro.
I think that last goat went into the UI localization files.
Joshua Petersen
Eh, lately Valve has had to use most of the sacrificial energy to keep the dark lord of the Microsoft Unified gaming initiatives at bay. If you thought Satan was a guy to keep at bay, you haven’t seen Microsoft. That’s Elder God of Madness to uncreate reality territory right there.
Disloyal Subject
Joyce‘s congregation probably includes at least a few.
Viktoria
They are definitely racist. Remember when Joyce called home and mentioned her black roommate? Though I suspect they’ll be more of the “you’re one of the good ones” sort than the overt hatred. It’s easier to justify to yourselves.
Leorale
I agree, much more likely incredibly ignorant than straight-up hateful, at least in the abstract. (Still really obnoxious tho.)
And I suspect we’d find the line for Carol if this was a fellow actually dating her own daughter.
Chris Phoenix
This could be the issue Joyce’s parents finally split up over.
BBCC
They seem like the kind of condescending racists that treat Sarah like a shiny novelty or a ‘look, this african american girl agrees with us’ type thing rather than the screaming slurs type.
Oops, now that I think about it was John, who we know got married in India, who was speculated to have married someone not white.
Schol-R-LEA
And worse, the wrong flavor of Christian. We know she is a Christian, and John basically said she’d been raided such, but since she is from India the odds are that she was originally either Episcopalian, Roman Catholic (who are somewhat common around Goa and Mumbai given the old Portuguese colonies) from a different evangelical sect such as 7DA or LDS, or one of the old Eastern Catholic sects such as the Nestorians. How much the Browns displeasure with the marriage stems from sectarianism and how much from good old fashioned racism :rolleyes: isn’t clear, but both are probably involved.
Schol-R-LEA
Raised, not raided. Also, I seem to have dropped a comma.
Also, I’m not sure if they are the sort of Protestants who insist that Roman Catholics aren’t really Christian at all.
BBCC
They are indeed, so if she’s Catholic, she’s boned.
That said, they seem the kind of racists who are more condescending and ignorant than maliciously throwing slurs everywhere, so they’d probably accept the marriage…..and then promptly use her as ‘proof’ their family can’t possibly be racist because this Indian girl here agrees with them.
Although if she’s Catholic too, well, that’s a whole other thing. Then there might be a storm coming for John.
tbf
Joyce isn’t Catholic; she’s whatever strain of Protestant that David Willis was.
thejeff
Not Joyce, John’s mystery wife. Who might be Indian. And if so, might be some other version of Christian.
Of course, it’s also possible she’s another missionary like he was, in which case, she’s likely close to their version of non-denominational.
Jason
I felt that it was more likely that she was a missionary. If she was from India but (presumably) moving to where her husband lives like a good dutiful wife, surely she should consent to marry there too. Like a good dutiful wife.
Plus, the way Carol made a big deal of Sarah gave me the definite impression that there isn’t a person of colour closely connected to the family.
But maybe I’ve missed something. I never assume to know where a webcomic is going until it’s confirmed.
BBCC
@ tbf – I meant they’re the kind of protestant that doesn’t consider catholics christian.
Yeah, they’re probably not that type of church. Fundies hate a lot of things, but the kind that hate Black people usually are rarer, most of the time its just gay people, atheists and other religions (plus a lot of arbitrary popular culture).
Also remember that Joyce’s parents were thrilled that Joyce had a black friend so they could tell everyone at church how she wasn’t racist. They’re not the type who hates black people and miscegenation, just more typical middle class conservative Americans that try a little too hard to not come off as racist around black people and maybe say a few things that are still kind of racist.
So if she brought him home they’d probably be surprised and act kind of awkward for as long as he was there, but it’s not likely they’d get mad or prevent Joyce or anything, at least until he started espousing his Hippie Church beliefs.
Pat
“Also remember that Joyce’s parents were thrilled that Joyce had a black friend so they could tell everyone at church how she wasn’t racist.”
I can’t say I remember that incident, but that would be absolute proof of pretty noticeable racism.
Looking at it again, I am wondering if Carol said that in front of Sarah, or hopefully waited until Sarah was too far away to overhear it.
NickG
The emphasis on ‘our’ suggests that other daughters in the neighbourhood are racists to me.
Bluewind
You are probably right. My town is very Christian and there is a lot of racism from every side, but since almost all of them aren’t the over the top neo natzi types, they don’t think they are.
In my family alone, most think the majority of black men are criminals, most think the n word is okay to use as long as you only use it against n words and not black people, they like to point out they aren’t racist because they have black friends, they know too many racist jokes, some of them “pity” biracial kids, and a lot of them think that most things that they see as fashionable in the black community (like unnaturally colors for hair) is tacky. My best friend in grade school was black and when our parents found out he had a crush on me, they blew the roof that it was allowed to happen and forbid us from ever seeing each other again. When I moved back in with my dad at 30 years old, he said I could date, but only white men (so no females or blacks). My nephew used some racist/sexist insults on the job as foremen even not firing a guy that spouted racist jokes all the time (which he laughed his ass off at). He commented how n words and women couldn’t cut it in his line of work. Most of them keep it closer to the vest, but it still comes out every great once in a while. None of them think they are racist. My dad is always nice to black men he fishes with. My nephew has had black friends. They can’t see they are racist (and sexist and homophobic and transphobic and xenophobic…) because they aren’t the obvious overtly racist stereotype. I’m the weird one seen as a bleeding heart buzz kill whom a lot of people don’t believe could have possibly been born and raised here (I get asked a lot where I’m from immediately followed by “I mean where were you born/raised”).
Adam Black
NOT Obvious?
No , thats screaming obvious. Is the bar set at ‘we arent lynchng?’
MnstrPoppa
Prolly.
ischemgeek
Where I grew up, the bar is basically “I don’t have white robes, mask and dunce cap in my closet.”
Trolldrool
Not “obvious overtly stereotypes”. That’s where the issue is. To anyone who frequently reads this comic, I hope, it’s obvious that everything on that list is blatantly racist. The point is that it’s not racist according to the stereotypes of that community. If the stereotype is someone who refuses to have a black surgeon to fix their heart then a person whose favourite televangelist is black won’t realise that they’re racist to believe all drug dealers are black.
(Note: By person I’m not referring to individuals who are fortunate enough to get the hell out of these toxic environments and smart enough to adapt to new information.)
Bluewind
I mean in mixed company or around strangers, they act mostly normal. Unless you are around them a LOT, you wouldn’t notice. That’s what I mean by not obvious. They think they are reasonable people seeing patterns in the black community and don’t realize that it’s tainted with bias.
Hell, this minute right now I’m getting insulted for justifying the Standing Rock Sioux pipeline protest. The words “free ride”, “get over it”, and “entitled” were used and he talk about how progress sometimes requires dealing with a few hiccups (response to the leak later on).
SeanR
What color is this page? White? If you look REALLY closely, it’s a light greenish blue. It isn’t obvious, however, and only really noticeable because the outer edge is #FFF white..
We tend to judge color in relation to other things. We see the light of our yellow sun as white. We see the light of our purple fluorescents as white. It’s only when we come in from the outside into the fluorescent light that we notice the purple hue.
When in an echo chamber, you don’t notice that the things you’re saying might not be agreeable to those outside that echo chamber.
SeanR
Well. It looked like a light greenish-blue on my other monitor…
Guess that’s part of why it was only forty bucks.
CJ
Yes, their reaction was definitely from the “we seldom meet and they are not real people” kind of mindset. Sarah was just a prop to show Joyce in favorable light there. That “knowing a black person and not having a problem with that” is though of as favorable shows there are not indoctrinated against black people by their religion- not in the way Joyce was indoctrinated against gay people or atheists.
Just the run of the mill racism of white people in a white bubble.
You don’t have to be the one who goes out and bashes people because of their skin color to be racist.
BTW: Transparency International just reported that when populists come to power by promising less corruption, you just get a brand new set of curruption (the article garbled ranking and the point system used to determine the ranking, I’ll have to look it up).
*irony on*
Just who would have though that?
263 thoughts on “Corner”
Ana Chronistic
hey now Joyce, don’t try to blame your DAT ASS face on Sarah
DarkoNeko
more like “dat religious connection”
(both. it’s both)
Griiins
Jesus: Dat religion to get you to the door, Dat Ass to get you in and praying for your mortal soul!
David
Numbers 22:27 And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam’s anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff.
So much for Dat Ass being useful for getting in.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
As the Holy Book says in the Book of Holes, Chapter 1: “And they knew not their holes, from an ass, on the ground.”
Sev
Hey, dat ass saved his life!
Mortartarsaus
The Son of God did not come to be served, but to serve… DAT ASS!
butts
See, THERE’s the face of the Sarah we know and… tolerate.
Danni
….yeah, tolerate works..
Disloyal Subject
Fortunately tolerance and affection aren’t mutually exclusive… or mutually inclusive, really, but some of us like Sarah.
foamy
That’s a face that’s three inches from murder if ever I saw one :v
Deanatay
Hey, Sarah, you got a little RESENT on your face, there…
Siddlaw
I love Sarah’s eyes!
Skizz
Yep, saying, “Worst. Wingman. Ever!”
Nakams
To be fair, Sarah was her own worst enemy here. She and Jacob want totally different things out of a relationship right now.
Scar Man!!!
yeah. As in, he wants to keep the relation he already has and she can’t stop herself from wanting to tap that like it’s a deep-water shale oil
Znayx
Joyce’s eyes last time were quite the thing, too. That playful smirk. Wow, quite some character development.
AnvilPro
Awww, Joyce has a crush
DarkoNeko
Tristan is gonna be heartbroken.
Fay Onyx
The question is how long will it take for her to admit it? Especially since Joyce knows Sarah has a crush on him too and Joyce was trying to set Sarah up with him (which might have even worked if Sarah hadn’t self-sabotaged). Also, Joyce and Jacob are a really good match personality and interest wise.
Nono
Joyce is now mentally comparing Ethanbutt with Jacobbutt.
Dean
A side-by-side comparison is obviously called for.
Undrave
That’s not the worse pairing that could happen… not sure how the congregation back home would feel about it >.>
Opus the Poet
Miscegnation?!? That’s the Devil’s work!!
Pablo360
Dorothy’s congregation may be basket-case fundies but they don’t strike me as the super-racist type.
Amias
I take it you mean Joyce’s, since Dorothy almost certainly doesn’t have a congregation.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
She’s an atheist. so she has a congregation down at the Satanic Temple, duh.
butts
really, i don’t know why more people don’t show up, the blood orgies are a ton of fun and child sacrifice is a great bonding experience
Skizz
We are out of children. Black goat this week.
Dellaran
Awww man, *again*?
Jaxx Sentinel
We used the last batch for the monthly sacrifice to the great Gaben for half life 3. We’re about 3 percent of the way there though
Mishyana
Gaben laughs at your sacrifice and uses their power to make more hats for Team Fortress 2.
Needfuldoer
Hats and random nerfs for Pyro.
I think that last goat went into the UI localization files.
Joshua Petersen
Eh, lately Valve has had to use most of the sacrificial energy to keep the dark lord of the Microsoft Unified gaming initiatives at bay. If you thought Satan was a guy to keep at bay, you haven’t seen Microsoft. That’s Elder God of Madness to uncreate reality territory right there.
Disloyal Subject
Joyce‘s congregation probably includes at least a few.
Viktoria
They are definitely racist. Remember when Joyce called home and mentioned her black roommate? Though I suspect they’ll be more of the “you’re one of the good ones” sort than the overt hatred. It’s easier to justify to yourselves.
Leorale
I agree, much more likely incredibly ignorant than straight-up hateful, at least in the abstract. (Still really obnoxious tho.)
And I suspect we’d find the line for Carol if this was a fellow actually dating her own daughter.
Chris Phoenix
This could be the issue Joyce’s parents finally split up over.
BBCC
They seem like the kind of condescending racists that treat Sarah like a shiny novelty or a ‘look, this african american girl agrees with us’ type thing rather than the screaming slurs type.
tim gueguen
There’s been speculation more than once that Jordan, the as yet unseen Brown sibling, might have married someone with the wrong skin colour.
tim gueguen
Oops, now that I think about it was John, who we know got married in India, who was speculated to have married someone not white.
Schol-R-LEA
And worse, the wrong flavor of Christian. We know she is a Christian, and John basically said she’d been raided such, but since she is from India the odds are that she was originally either Episcopalian, Roman Catholic (who are somewhat common around Goa and Mumbai given the old Portuguese colonies) from a different evangelical sect such as 7DA or LDS, or one of the old Eastern Catholic sects such as the Nestorians. How much the Browns displeasure with the marriage stems from sectarianism and how much from good old fashioned racism :rolleyes: isn’t clear, but both are probably involved.
Schol-R-LEA
Raised, not raided. Also, I seem to have dropped a comma.
Also, I’m not sure if they are the sort of Protestants who insist that Roman Catholics aren’t really Christian at all.
BBCC
They are indeed, so if she’s Catholic, she’s boned.
That said, they seem the kind of racists who are more condescending and ignorant than maliciously throwing slurs everywhere, so they’d probably accept the marriage…..and then promptly use her as ‘proof’ their family can’t possibly be racist because this Indian girl here agrees with them.
Although if she’s Catholic too, well, that’s a whole other thing. Then there might be a storm coming for John.
tbf
Joyce isn’t Catholic; she’s whatever strain of Protestant that David Willis was.
thejeff
Not Joyce, John’s mystery wife. Who might be Indian. And if so, might be some other version of Christian.
Of course, it’s also possible she’s another missionary like he was, in which case, she’s likely close to their version of non-denominational.
Jason
I felt that it was more likely that she was a missionary. If she was from India but (presumably) moving to where her husband lives like a good dutiful wife, surely she should consent to marry there too. Like a good dutiful wife.
Plus, the way Carol made a big deal of Sarah gave me the definite impression that there isn’t a person of colour closely connected to the family.
But maybe I’ve missed something. I never assume to know where a webcomic is going until it’s confirmed.
BBCC
@ tbf – I meant they’re the kind of protestant that doesn’t consider catholics christian.
Ravian
Yeah, they’re probably not that type of church. Fundies hate a lot of things, but the kind that hate Black people usually are rarer, most of the time its just gay people, atheists and other religions (plus a lot of arbitrary popular culture).
Also remember that Joyce’s parents were thrilled that Joyce had a black friend so they could tell everyone at church how she wasn’t racist. They’re not the type who hates black people and miscegenation, just more typical middle class conservative Americans that try a little too hard to not come off as racist around black people and maybe say a few things that are still kind of racist.
So if she brought him home they’d probably be surprised and act kind of awkward for as long as he was there, but it’s not likely they’d get mad or prevent Joyce or anything, at least until he started espousing his Hippie Church beliefs.
Pat
“Also remember that Joyce’s parents were thrilled that Joyce had a black friend so they could tell everyone at church how she wasn’t racist.”
I can’t say I remember that incident, but that would be absolute proof of pretty noticeable racism.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Here.
Looking at it again, I am wondering if Carol said that in front of Sarah, or hopefully waited until Sarah was too far away to overhear it.
NickG
The emphasis on ‘our’ suggests that other daughters in the neighbourhood are racists to me.
Bluewind
You are probably right. My town is very Christian and there is a lot of racism from every side, but since almost all of them aren’t the over the top neo natzi types, they don’t think they are.
In my family alone, most think the majority of black men are criminals, most think the n word is okay to use as long as you only use it against n words and not black people, they like to point out they aren’t racist because they have black friends, they know too many racist jokes, some of them “pity” biracial kids, and a lot of them think that most things that they see as fashionable in the black community (like unnaturally colors for hair) is tacky. My best friend in grade school was black and when our parents found out he had a crush on me, they blew the roof that it was allowed to happen and forbid us from ever seeing each other again. When I moved back in with my dad at 30 years old, he said I could date, but only white men (so no females or blacks). My nephew used some racist/sexist insults on the job as foremen even not firing a guy that spouted racist jokes all the time (which he laughed his ass off at). He commented how n words and women couldn’t cut it in his line of work. Most of them keep it closer to the vest, but it still comes out every great once in a while. None of them think they are racist. My dad is always nice to black men he fishes with. My nephew has had black friends. They can’t see they are racist (and sexist and homophobic and transphobic and xenophobic…) because they aren’t the obvious overtly racist stereotype. I’m the weird one seen as a bleeding heart buzz kill whom a lot of people don’t believe could have possibly been born and raised here (I get asked a lot where I’m from immediately followed by “I mean where were you born/raised”).
Adam Black
NOT Obvious?
No , thats screaming obvious. Is the bar set at ‘we arent lynchng?’
MnstrPoppa
Prolly.
ischemgeek
Where I grew up, the bar is basically “I don’t have white robes, mask and dunce cap in my closet.”
Trolldrool
Not “obvious overtly stereotypes”. That’s where the issue is. To anyone who frequently reads this comic, I hope, it’s obvious that everything on that list is blatantly racist. The point is that it’s not racist according to the stereotypes of that community. If the stereotype is someone who refuses to have a black surgeon to fix their heart then a person whose favourite televangelist is black won’t realise that they’re racist to believe all drug dealers are black.
(Note: By person I’m not referring to individuals who are fortunate enough to get the hell out of these toxic environments and smart enough to adapt to new information.)
Bluewind
I mean in mixed company or around strangers, they act mostly normal. Unless you are around them a LOT, you wouldn’t notice. That’s what I mean by not obvious. They think they are reasonable people seeing patterns in the black community and don’t realize that it’s tainted with bias.
Hell, this minute right now I’m getting insulted for justifying the Standing Rock Sioux pipeline protest. The words “free ride”, “get over it”, and “entitled” were used and he talk about how progress sometimes requires dealing with a few hiccups (response to the leak later on).
SeanR
What color is this page? White? If you look REALLY closely, it’s a light greenish blue. It isn’t obvious, however, and only really noticeable because the outer edge is #FFF white..
We tend to judge color in relation to other things. We see the light of our yellow sun as white. We see the light of our purple fluorescents as white. It’s only when we come in from the outside into the fluorescent light that we notice the purple hue.
When in an echo chamber, you don’t notice that the things you’re saying might not be agreeable to those outside that echo chamber.
SeanR
Well. It looked like a light greenish-blue on my other monitor…
Guess that’s part of why it was only forty bucks.
CJ
Yes, their reaction was definitely from the “we seldom meet and they are not real people” kind of mindset. Sarah was just a prop to show Joyce in favorable light there. That “knowing a black person and not having a problem with that” is though of as favorable shows there are not indoctrinated against black people by their religion- not in the way Joyce was indoctrinated against gay people or atheists.
Just the run of the mill racism of white people in a white bubble.
You don’t have to be the one who goes out and bashes people because of their skin color to be racist.
BTW: Transparency International just reported that when populists come to power by promising less corruption, you just get a brand new set of curruption (the article garbled ranking and the point system used to determine the ranking, I’ll have to look it up).
*irony on*
Just who would have though that?
Some Random Name
Mission… successful?
Doctor_Who
This day did result in one amazing achievement: Sarah somehow got even crankier.
carl320
But, her face hasn’t changed…
Opus the Poet
Remember last strip? Her face froze like that.
achallenger
feint and a dodge
Tuen
ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN!
Architex
What a perfect opportunity to show Asma some love by giving her panel time.
Disloyal Subject
Surely she can’t man the desk 24/7
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Asma is actually identical quadruplets.
3oranges
Anky, Sinky, Minky, and Ayde.
DarkoNeko
so THAT’s how she (they) is always up there ?
Scar Man!!!