We are the denizens of the internet. We can multitask.
Griiins
Multi attack, and SWARM. don’t forget Swarm.
Sageress
Denizens of the internet can multitask, yes, but being productive is beyond even our power…
Chris Phoenix
Looks like wearing safety pins is going mainstream, with NYTimes writing about it and Patrick Stewart wearing it.
1) Only wear it if you mean it – ready to help anyone who asks, regardless of what minority they’re in.
2) There are lots of non-violent ways to help – but in some parts of the country, wearing it could put you in physical danger.
3) If you might possibly be confused with a white supremacist, you might want to accessorize with something they’d never wear (like a Black Lives Matter pin or Pride flag) – because they’re so vile that they’re encouraging each other to co-opt the symbol.
Scar Man!!!
look up the green rings project. That hasn’t been co-opted yet
Cybersnark
But then you might get attacked by a Red or Yellow Lantern.
The Other Mike
Yeah, but you get to hang with Kilowog.
GreyDefender
Can you clarify? Google brought up nothing but jewelry.
Yes, we get it, people are determined to ignore what people stand to lose from Trump and why they are afraid. Are we going to do anything to help these people protect their civil and human rights or just condescend over it some more?
Disloyal Subject
I could condescend, but this really isn’t the place for it.
bongoing that an orange asshole won a democratic election isn’t helping protect anyone’s civil rights, which is what I meant by ‘productivity.’
BBCC
Could’ve fooled me.
Surprisingly enough the threat of losing one’s civil rights is not the kind of thing people take calmly. Forgive people for still being upset and talking about it a week later.
Also completely ignore things like protests, movements to back up and de-escalate situations, etc. Sure.
Lailah
‘this isn’t really the place to condescend’, says man after posting amazingly condescending thread reply.
The damage he does will last more than four years. More than ten, too, though.
MatsuoTanuki
Assuming someone doesn’t do the extreme thing by giving him turning his Inaugeration Day into an assassination.
pl0x
Please, no. Pence will step up and he is much worse.
MatsuoTanuki
Disclaimer: The following in no shape or form represents the true thoughts and political standings of MatsuoTanuki, this is an exaggeration for the sake of black humor*
*puts on discount Che Guevara T-shirt and red beret* Then we burn Congress! Drag every fat, slimy politician by the hair and rip them to shreds! Burn Washington! And a new America shall rise out of the ashes, in the hands of the people! Viva the Second Revolution! *froths at the mouth*
Tualha
Yeah, great idea. Look how well that worked in France, and Russia, and Iran.
The reason the US didn’t turn out that way was because its revolutionary phase, strictly speaking, was limited to gaining independence from the UK. The post-revolution government was much like the UK’s government without the peerage, and everything since then has been a matter of gradual evolution.
The people who want to overturn everything and remake it all at once voted for Trump. It’s a bad idea; you generally end up with a new government worse than the one it replaced, but more stable and claiming more legitimacy. It remains to be seen whether it will work out that way in this case.
Thulcandran
Two years. Midterms are in TWO years, and there’s more local control over those, and they will restore the checks and balances. Midterms. Are in. Two years. Start getting ready.
thejeff
It’s a damn uphill slog and we’re going to need to work at it. Get those Democrats who don’t vote in midterms out.
The Senate has a lot Democrats up for reelection, in Red States, and there are only a few Republicans.
The House is gerrymandered to hell and gone and Voter Suppression will be worse by then. OTOH, gerrymandering tends to be less effective towards the end of a Census cycle as populations shift.
We’re going to have to make a hell of a wave. 50 State strategy.
If everyones just gonna bongo and moan about the election Willis may wind up having to ban political discussion (that doesn’t involve robin) on the comments section.
trlkly
And, if he does, he’ll be treated like a Trump supporter.
And characterizing it that way only makes you look like an asshole. Not a single person is whining. Learn to care about other people more than yourself.
I don’t see him banning political discussions, but I could see him adding a few new word substitutions. If he gets tired of seeing the word Trump then I’m sure that are substitutions that would change the tenor of the discussion.
He can say whatever he wants – when he’s added conversion therapy to his platform and wants a judge who has vowed to overturn gay marriage, he’s an anti-LGBTQ+ politician.
‘Cause then Billie could cut through him like a fucking cardboard standee, and at least one problem would be solved.
Minotaur
Isn’t the VP next in line in case someone cuts through POTUS like a fucking cardboard standee? And isn’t the VP a guy with rather scary ideas and more government experience than the actual president elect? Sounds like an out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-fire kind of scenario. 🙁
Silly Name
Billie would cut through the VP, too.
But, in all seriousness, hope that nothing happens to Trump, because Pence is, as you said, even more vile than him.
I don’t think relying on Trump to keep a lid on Pence is a winning plan.
And Billie can just keep on cutting until she finds a decent human being somewhere in the chain of succession.
Needfuldoer
Correct. As long as the VP doesn’t get a promotion, their most important role is “tiebreaker in the Senate”.
Next in line is Speaker of the House. The Speaker became President once, to my knowledge: Gerald Ford became VP after Agnew resigned, then President after Nixon resigned. He fell down a lot.
Norah
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is nearly as bad as Trump and Pence.
Joe Archer
Just out of interest, who is next after the Speaker?
So we gotta try to take back the House in 2018. President Pelosi!
Deanatay
Splork: indeed we do. But our old strategy won’t work – we can’t just focus on urban liberals and trust in their population to win the day. Trump won because a lot of rural Democrats felt ignored by the party mainstream, and either didn’t vote, or voted for Candy-Corn Mussolini in protest.
So, pick a state (probably yours), and go county by county. Organize, investigate, plan. Make no assumptions, take nothing for granted. We need to earn this next one, people!
thejeff
Not to rehash the election even more, but it’s not at all clear to me that’s why he won. Dismissing racism, sexism and bigotry in a campaign that’s focused on them more openly than anything since George Wallace seems like a mistake to me.
I agree with the last. Work & organize. Get involved.
thejeff
Ford wasn’t Speaker though. He was appointed to the Vice Presidency by Nixon after Agnew resigned.
It would only be if both the President & VP were absent/vacant at once that the speaker would become President.
If Billie cut through Trump, Pence would be President. She’d have to cut through him too, in order to make Paul Ryan President. At which point she might as well keep going. Eventually you work your way through the Cabinet and I doubt we’d want any Trump appointees in charge.
More seriously, given Trump’s complete lack of preparedness or apparent interest in actually doing the job, I suspect that Pence, like Cheney, will play a much more significant role than “tiebreaker in the Senate”.
Lailah
Surprising nobody. Frankly, given Trump’s face after learning that the job is not, in fact, blowjobs 24/7 while giving vague instructions to a secretary who does all the work, I’m just wondering what the over/under is on him /actually resigning as president while sitting in the oval office/.
Lailah
(BTW, this is not a good thing. Pence is only marginally less racist, and considerably happier to be hetero-, cis-, and regular sexist.)
Willoughby Chase
Jared Kushner is currently the one doing the “thinking” behind the transition.
He’s a nasty little goon worth investigating as it appears that he might wind up doing the Cheney role.
I don’t think Pence has the gumption or the guile for that – he appears to be a nasty little prick promoted beyond his ability.
The day is young. Gaffney, the arch anti-muslimist has been slotted into the Security Adviser role.
Pence is currently in charge of Trump’s “transition,” which in taking to mean he may have a lot of power to choose people he likes. We may have more of a Cheney than a Biden…
thejeff
I’m not sure anyone is in charge of Trump’s transition.
I suspect there’s a lot of infighting among the various advisors and it’s not clear who’s winning. My guess is Bannon, but it’s hard to say. Trump has something of a reputation for going along with the last guy to suck up to him properly.
But yeah, definitely more of a Cheney running his own agenda out of the VP’s office rather than a loyal supporter (if occasional loose cannon) like Biden.
Harvey Janus
Bannon’s been decided as the next ‘domestic strategist to the president.’ Sooooo yeah.
Willoughby Chase
I think Jared Kushner is the best bet for the eminence grise.
Thankfully, Ana, there are going to be places which continue to help and comfort people throughout Trump’s term. Because as bad and awful as he is, he is not going to be able to define the world. Safety pins and not. Also, Trump will never be elected in Willis’ world. It’s like Marvel comics that way that President Ellis or Peter Cullen will be the leader due to the sliding time scale.
No, he’ll never be elected. By the time we reach November in comic, he’ll have been in the office for several years. By the time we reach January, he’ll be long gone.
people have asked me why i never seem to hate anyone. my answer is typically something along the line of “Hating takes a lot of effort. im to lazy for that.”
Gesc
Casual indiferente will take you surprisingly far.
Gesc
My Spanish is showing!
miados
in highschool when i worked in fast food i adapted the art of false sincerity quite quickly.
263 thoughts on “Room”
Ana Chronistic
plowin’ through like bullshit Republican laws rubberstamped by Trump
…look, doing better than if Trump were there is a pretty low hurdle to clear
Disloyal Subject
Yes, we get it, people are upset that Trump won. Are we going to whine about it for the next decade, or do something productive?
Fart Captor
We can do both.
Anorak
We are the denizens of the internet. We can multitask.
Griiins
Multi attack, and SWARM. don’t forget Swarm.
Sageress
Denizens of the internet can multitask, yes, but being productive is beyond even our power…
Chris Phoenix
Looks like wearing safety pins is going mainstream, with NYTimes writing about it and Patrick Stewart wearing it.
1) Only wear it if you mean it – ready to help anyone who asks, regardless of what minority they’re in.
2) There are lots of non-violent ways to help – but in some parts of the country, wearing it could put you in physical danger.
3) If you might possibly be confused with a white supremacist, you might want to accessorize with something they’d never wear (like a Black Lives Matter pin or Pride flag) – because they’re so vile that they’re encouraging each other to co-opt the symbol.
Scar Man!!!
look up the green rings project. That hasn’t been co-opted yet
Cybersnark
But then you might get attacked by a Red or Yellow Lantern.
The Other Mike
Yeah, but you get to hang with Kilowog.
GreyDefender
Can you clarify? Google brought up nothing but jewelry.
Stewart
Seems to be a reference to this Tumblr post: http://therealhungryreader.tumblr.com/post/152967562111/how-to-look-for-the-helpers-hi-im-a
ZerglingOne
We’ll be whining about it for at -least- the next 4 years.
BrokenEye, True False Prophet
It’s cute that you think we’ll still be here in 4 years
Valkyr
post-apocalyptic scavengers can complain just fine, thank you
Reltzik
Productive? As in, produce something?
WE CAN PRODUCE WHINING!
(It’s one of the left’s core competencies. I say, as someone on the left.)
BBCC
Yes, we get it, people are determined to ignore what people stand to lose from Trump and why they are afraid. Are we going to do anything to help these people protect their civil and human rights or just condescend over it some more?
Disloyal Subject
I could condescend, but this really isn’t the place for it.
bongoing that an orange asshole won a democratic election isn’t helping protect anyone’s civil rights, which is what I meant by ‘productivity.’
BBCC
Could’ve fooled me.
Surprisingly enough the threat of losing one’s civil rights is not the kind of thing people take calmly. Forgive people for still being upset and talking about it a week later.
Also completely ignore things like protests, movements to back up and de-escalate situations, etc. Sure.
Lailah
‘this isn’t really the place to condescend’, says man after posting amazingly condescending thread reply.
John
He didn’t, in fact, win the democratic election.
Stacie
We can multitask.
Disloyal Subject
Fair enough.
Shiro
…I feel that protesting a fucking racist, misogynistic rapist (or, as you’ve termed it here, “whining”) is a very productive use of time, actually.
Fart Captor
Anything that fights the normalization of basically anything about that man is worth the effort
Ana Chronistic
look, there was a request for that to be the first comment for the next four years of strips, I think that was an appropriate tapering-off point
[/uncharacteristic seriousness]
QD
Anacronistic is providing us all with amusing jokes. That’s not whining. That’s far more productive than “UGH, WHINER” itself.
PrincessPaladine
Decade? Don’t you mean 4 years?
Splork
The damage he does will last more than four years. More than ten, too, though.
MatsuoTanuki
Assuming someone doesn’t do the extreme thing by giving him turning his Inaugeration Day into an assassination.
pl0x
Please, no. Pence will step up and he is much worse.
MatsuoTanuki
Disclaimer: The following in no shape or form represents the true thoughts and political standings of MatsuoTanuki, this is an exaggeration for the sake of black humor*
*puts on discount Che Guevara T-shirt and red beret* Then we burn Congress! Drag every fat, slimy politician by the hair and rip them to shreds! Burn Washington! And a new America shall rise out of the ashes, in the hands of the people! Viva the Second Revolution! *froths at the mouth*
Tualha
Yeah, great idea. Look how well that worked in France, and Russia, and Iran.
The reason the US didn’t turn out that way was because its revolutionary phase, strictly speaking, was limited to gaining independence from the UK. The post-revolution government was much like the UK’s government without the peerage, and everything since then has been a matter of gradual evolution.
The people who want to overturn everything and remake it all at once voted for Trump. It’s a bad idea; you generally end up with a new government worse than the one it replaced, but more stable and claiming more legitimacy. It remains to be seen whether it will work out that way in this case.
Thulcandran
Two years. Midterms are in TWO years, and there’s more local control over those, and they will restore the checks and balances. Midterms. Are in. Two years. Start getting ready.
thejeff
It’s a damn uphill slog and we’re going to need to work at it. Get those Democrats who don’t vote in midterms out.
The Senate has a lot Democrats up for reelection, in Red States, and there are only a few Republicans.
The House is gerrymandered to hell and gone and Voter Suppression will be worse by then. OTOH, gerrymandering tends to be less effective towards the end of a Census cycle as populations shift.
We’re going to have to make a hell of a wave. 50 State strategy.
TheAnonymousGuy
If everyones just gonna bongo and moan about the election Willis may wind up having to ban political discussion (that doesn’t involve robin) on the comments section.
trlkly
And, if he does, he’ll be treated like a Trump supporter.
And characterizing it that way only makes you look like an asshole. Not a single person is whining. Learn to care about other people more than yourself.
Clif
I don’t see him banning political discussions, but I could see him adding a few new word substitutions. If he gets tired of seeing the word Trump then I’m sure that are substitutions that would change the tenor of the discussion.
zik
People have been whining about Obama for 8 years, surely Trump is good for twice that.
Ellegos
I mean, I plan to complain about for the next four years. After that, we can see what happens.
Clif
Well no. Not all of us will be whining about it. Some will be whining about the whining. The important thing is to ask yourself, “What would Mike do?” https://www.google.com/search?q=trump%27s+mother+images&oq=trumps+mother
Just Me
Billie, save your anger until next year when the anti-LBGTQ laws take affect.
Or, you and Ruth can just transfer to a Canadian University.
TheAnonymousGuy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSVLpzGseXw
BBCC
He can say whatever he wants – when he’s added conversion therapy to his platform and wants a judge who has vowed to overturn gay marriage, he’s an anti-LGBTQ+ politician.
Reltzik
At least it’s better than if Trump was here?
John
Nah, I think it’d be better if Trump were there.
‘Cause then Billie could cut through him like a fucking cardboard standee, and at least one problem would be solved.
Minotaur
Isn’t the VP next in line in case someone cuts through POTUS like a fucking cardboard standee? And isn’t the VP a guy with rather scary ideas and more government experience than the actual president elect? Sounds like an out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-fire kind of scenario. 🙁
Silly Name
Billie would cut through the VP, too.
But, in all seriousness, hope that nothing happens to Trump, because Pence is, as you said, even more vile than him.
John
I don’t think relying on Trump to keep a lid on Pence is a winning plan.
And Billie can just keep on cutting until she finds a decent human being somewhere in the chain of succession.
Needfuldoer
Correct. As long as the VP doesn’t get a promotion, their most important role is “tiebreaker in the Senate”.
Next in line is Speaker of the House. The Speaker became President once, to my knowledge: Gerald Ford became VP after Agnew resigned, then President after Nixon resigned. He fell down a lot.
Norah
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is nearly as bad as Trump and Pence.
Joe Archer
Just out of interest, who is next after the Speaker?
Wizard
President pro tem of the Senate, then it works through the cabinet in the order the their respective departments were established.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession
Splork
So we gotta try to take back the House in 2018. President Pelosi!
Deanatay
Splork: indeed we do. But our old strategy won’t work – we can’t just focus on urban liberals and trust in their population to win the day. Trump won because a lot of rural Democrats felt ignored by the party mainstream, and either didn’t vote, or voted for Candy-Corn Mussolini in protest.
So, pick a state (probably yours), and go county by county. Organize, investigate, plan. Make no assumptions, take nothing for granted. We need to earn this next one, people!
thejeff
Not to rehash the election even more, but it’s not at all clear to me that’s why he won. Dismissing racism, sexism and bigotry in a campaign that’s focused on them more openly than anything since George Wallace seems like a mistake to me.
I agree with the last. Work & organize. Get involved.
thejeff
Ford wasn’t Speaker though. He was appointed to the Vice Presidency by Nixon after Agnew resigned.
It would only be if both the President & VP were absent/vacant at once that the speaker would become President.
If Billie cut through Trump, Pence would be President. She’d have to cut through him too, in order to make Paul Ryan President. At which point she might as well keep going. Eventually you work your way through the Cabinet and I doubt we’d want any Trump appointees in charge.
More seriously, given Trump’s complete lack of preparedness or apparent interest in actually doing the job, I suspect that Pence, like Cheney, will play a much more significant role than “tiebreaker in the Senate”.
Lailah
Surprising nobody. Frankly, given Trump’s face after learning that the job is not, in fact, blowjobs 24/7 while giving vague instructions to a secretary who does all the work, I’m just wondering what the over/under is on him /actually resigning as president while sitting in the oval office/.
Lailah
(BTW, this is not a good thing. Pence is only marginally less racist, and considerably happier to be hetero-, cis-, and regular sexist.)
Willoughby Chase
Jared Kushner is currently the one doing the “thinking” behind the transition.
He’s a nasty little goon worth investigating as it appears that he might wind up doing the Cheney role.
I don’t think Pence has the gumption or the guile for that – he appears to be a nasty little prick promoted beyond his ability.
The day is young. Gaffney, the arch anti-muslimist has been slotted into the Security Adviser role.
Historyman68
Pence is currently in charge of Trump’s “transition,” which in taking to mean he may have a lot of power to choose people he likes. We may have more of a Cheney than a Biden…
thejeff
I’m not sure anyone is in charge of Trump’s transition.
I suspect there’s a lot of infighting among the various advisors and it’s not clear who’s winning. My guess is Bannon, but it’s hard to say. Trump has something of a reputation for going along with the last guy to suck up to him properly.
But yeah, definitely more of a Cheney running his own agenda out of the VP’s office rather than a loyal supporter (if occasional loose cannon) like Biden.
Harvey Janus
Bannon’s been decided as the next ‘domestic strategist to the president.’ Sooooo yeah.
Willoughby Chase
I think Jared Kushner is the best bet for the eminence grise.
Loving the Biden-Obama memes coming out.
Gonna miss both.
Charles Phipps
Thankfully, Ana, there are going to be places which continue to help and comfort people throughout Trump’s term. Because as bad and awful as he is, he is not going to be able to define the world. Safety pins and not. Also, Trump will never be elected in Willis’ world. It’s like Marvel comics that way that President Ellis or Peter Cullen will be the leader due to the sliding time scale.
thejeff
No, he’ll never be elected. By the time we reach November in comic, he’ll have been in the office for several years. By the time we reach January, he’ll be long gone.
Faun
No chill
BBCC
Ohhhh, Billie. You mean well. Ish.
AnvilPro
Billie suddenly realizes the whole world isn’t actually against her. Most of it doesn’t care about her.
Jay Eff
The front desk guy certainly doesn’t care. He gets paid about $9.00 an hour.
miados
people have asked me why i never seem to hate anyone. my answer is typically something along the line of “Hating takes a lot of effort. im to lazy for that.”
Gesc
Casual indiferente will take you surprisingly far.
Gesc
My Spanish is showing!
miados
in highschool when i worked in fast food i adapted the art of false sincerity quite quickly.
foamy