To answer the fingernail question: Mostly alpha-keratin, like drawing it is really hard. I’ve seen some of your old drawings under your name-link thing, you are really good at it.
I wonder how many furry artists got their start by being all “Gah, all my feet look like weird paws! Maybe I’ll just make her a wolf or some shit, then it’ll look normal.”
As an avid collector of furry art I can say that the majority of the artwork I have commissioned either doesn’t include feet, or has the character(s) wearing shoes so you may be right.
In my middle school art class, we learned about how drawing hands is The Worst, and then had a project focused specifically on drawing hands. While I’ve never been much of a draughtsman, that did lead to me becoming better at drawing hands than I was at any other body part. Which was kinda funny! past 9th grade, any drawings I did were just doodles, but the “hands” thing held up enough that one time a classmate saw me drawing hands on the edges of my classwork and was like, “Wow, are you really good at drawing?” And I said, “No.” And then I went back to sketching out my crush’s name in ASL finger spelling.
The distance from your wrist to where your fingers begin is the same as the distance from your chin to the tip of your nose. The whole hand is about double that distance.
I never could draw worth a fart, but I made a few bucks posing for figure drawing classes when I was in college. The things I remember from the work I saw: (1) a lot of students fudged on hands, feet, knees, and ears (they just didn’t draw them) and (2) the students who actually drew detailed representations of my crotch magnified my junk by a factor of two (I guess their eyes were just drawn there?). I don’t recall hips being a particular bugbear.
Oh man I loved figure drawing classes. A class is usually 3 or 4 hours of the day but loved every minute of it. Every stroke of charcoal or whatever medium is one stroke closer to improving your sense of anatomy
Yeah but fixing that problem would require giving money to hospitals, which the worthless oxygen thieves in power have decided is a great evil, because what if what if what if.
The problem is not a lack of money. The problem is the mass of laws and policies that create perverse incentives which ensure that much of the money spent doesn’t go to the most productive use. Bloated administrative costs soak up huge amounts of money while doing little to improve anyone’s health. Lack of competition and transparent pricing allow inefficiency to thrive, since providers lack a clear incentive to improve. The often massive disconnect between those paying for care and those receiving it means that patients may also lack motive to make sure they’re actually getting the best value. Given the many structural failings, trying to improve US healthcare by throwing more money at it is a lot like trying to fight a fire by smothering it with gasoline.
Thing is, the hands, feet and big brains all came as kind of a package. Adapting to walk upright allowed the forelimbs to specialize in grasping and manipulation. Keeping all this new stuff coordinated and taking maximum advantage of it required bigger, fancier brains. Eventually brain size and gestational development came to a rough equilibrium. Whether or not this balance is ideal is highly debatable, but the only thing natural selection cares about is “Does this work often enough for a population to sustain itself?”
StClair
Yeah, that’s one of the most persistent wrong ideas about evolution: it doesn’t select for “perfect” or “better”, just “good enough.”
101 thoughts on “Hips”
Ana Chronistic
wait ’til she gets to knees
or, like
…fingernails…?
True Survivor
To answer the fingernail question: Mostly alpha-keratin, like drawing it is really hard. I’ve seen some of your old drawings under your name-link thing, you are really good at it.
danimagoo
Or, if she’s anything like Rob Liefeld, feet.
Ana Chronistic
I did feet in the Patreon post, kinda hate repeating myself
Roborat
Or any other part of human anatomy.
Proxiehunter
I think I beat Anna here. You’re right Joyce, hips are bullcrap.
Proxiehunter
Took too long typing.
Thag Simmons
you might have beat her if you hadn’t tried to comment on it
BiggestFan
You beat her, she just used her namesake power.
Decidedly Orthogonal
One can’t say, “first post,” grasshopper. One must be first post.
Anon200
Sillybilly no one beats Ann, no one
Yumi
The model is currently hiding their hands behind their back, just to be nice to Joyce.
Doctor_Who
Hips don’t lie, but they are full of shit.
Needfuldoer
Personal hygiene is important.
Maveric1984
Hips can’t be bullcrap! They don’t lie!
At least, Shakira’s dont…
Doctor_Who
Shakira’s hips are currently wanted for tax evasion.
shoopdawhoop
Hips don’t lie but they do confront you with uncomfortable truths
RassilonTDavros
There are so many scattered bits of paper in my room that consist of drawings of faces AND NOTHING ELSE because everything else sucks. SOOO many
Cmasta1992
It’s wild how much of drawing nsfw art is getting irritated at the human form
Doctor_Who
I wonder how many furry artists got their start by being all “Gah, all my feet look like weird paws! Maybe I’ll just make her a wolf or some shit, then it’ll look normal.”
Kimi
Just cover it all in fur and then the tiny little details don’t matter type of thing?
ktbear
As an avid collector of furry art I can say that the majority of the artwork I have commissioned either doesn’t include feet, or has the character(s) wearing shoes so you may be right.
Antonio Tyler
People think it must be hot but it’s mostly frustrating. Especially if you’re also trying to capture a likeness
ian livs
Hands are still worse, but Joyce has a point
ian livs
Oh hey, I’m Malaya now!
Yumi
In my middle school art class, we learned about how drawing hands is The Worst, and then had a project focused specifically on drawing hands. While I’ve never been much of a draughtsman, that did lead to me becoming better at drawing hands than I was at any other body part. Which was kinda funny! past 9th grade, any drawings I did were just doodles, but the “hands” thing held up enough that one time a classmate saw me drawing hands on the edges of my classwork and was like, “Wow, are you really good at drawing?” And I said, “No.” And then I went back to sketching out my crush’s name in ASL finger spelling.
Rose by Any Other Name
“went back to sketching out my crush’s name in ASL finger spelling”
**eyes widen and hearts float in air nearby**
**voice that only increases in pitch** That is adorable!
Yumi
This ended up being a first draft, and I ended up giving a later sketch to her, and like. This was me trying to be subtle about things.
Angel
i remember seeing a semi-popular tweet that was like “plot twist: an artist who’s /only/ good at hands” lol
Kitschensyngk
I learned a trick to drawing hands.
The distance from your wrist to where your fingers begin is the same as the distance from your chin to the tip of your nose. The whole hand is about double that distance.
jflb96
I feel like just saying ‘your middle finger is as long as your palm’ would’ve been easier
Taffy
Holy shit, it’s pretty close.
HueSatLight
This feels like that middle school prank.
butting
Possible spoiler and probable wigguns, but: Wilde Life, page 385. Paz is just so ridiculously good.
Yumi
Hey, I have the top comment on that page!
…And I stand by it.
Tan
I was not previously familiar with this comic. I have no read through the entire thing. This was an enjoyable unplanned use of my morning.
Dr. Sharks
So ridiculously good? What are you talking about, those arms clearly have too many elbows. Has the artist even seen an arm before?
(This is jokes, Wilde Life is phenomenal)
Chaucer59
I never could draw worth a fart, but I made a few bucks posing for figure drawing classes when I was in college. The things I remember from the work I saw: (1) a lot of students fudged on hands, feet, knees, and ears (they just didn’t draw them) and (2) the students who actually drew detailed representations of my crotch magnified my junk by a factor of two (I guess their eyes were just drawn there?). I don’t recall hips being a particular bugbear.
BarerMender
Maybe your junk was bigger than you understood.
Chaucer59
I wish ?
Nothri
Why do I feel this is Willis speaking from personal experience.
Doctor_Who
I feel like that can apply to most things Joyce has said, except possibly those relating to the kidnapping and the bad periods.
BiggestFan
Are you SURE about the kidnapping
Tadpole7
Perhaps the most relatable thing Joyce has ever said.
JepMZ
Oh man I loved figure drawing classes. A class is usually 3 or 4 hours of the day but loved every minute of it. Every stroke of charcoal or whatever medium is one stroke closer to improving your sense of anatomy
Bryy
Tonight’s strip brought to you by the author.
Raen
You know they can hear you, right?
Yumi
Hips don’t have ears, silly.
Taffy
Yes, but whether they give half a damn is another story.
S.R.
“Hips are hard to draw” isn’t really an insult to someone’s body, fortunately.
Suet
wait ’til she sees someone with hip dips
or Jennifer
BBCC
Look, Shakira warned you, Joyce! If you didn’t understand the message that isn’t her problem. 😛
BBCC
Uh uh. Not happening, gravitar roulette gods.
NGPZ
Gotta roll 9 times for a 50/50 chance of getting the one you want. 😉
(wait a minute I should be doing platformer game math, not probability math, mmmmffff)
NGPZ
hell it ain’t 9 times it’s 20 times OKAY FOCUS
Kyrik Michalowski
Blowjob Cat too intense?
Reltzik
My first thought: Everyone in the room is staring at Joyce funny because of that outburst.
My second thought: Everyone in the room is staring at Joyce sympathetically because of that outburst.
Schpoonman
Half-and-half?
True Survivor
Bipedalism has its disadvantages, especially for child birth (unfun fact: the US has a terrible rate of death in child-birth for a developed nation).
Taffy
Yeah but fixing that problem would require giving money to hospitals, which the worthless oxygen thieves in power have decided is a great evil, because what if what if what if.
Needfuldoer
There’s also the fact that their buddies rake in mountains of cash from the status quo.
Wizard
The problem is not a lack of money. The problem is the mass of laws and policies that create perverse incentives which ensure that much of the money spent doesn’t go to the most productive use. Bloated administrative costs soak up huge amounts of money while doing little to improve anyone’s health. Lack of competition and transparent pricing allow inefficiency to thrive, since providers lack a clear incentive to improve. The often massive disconnect between those paying for care and those receiving it means that patients may also lack motive to make sure they’re actually getting the best value. Given the many structural failings, trying to improve US healthcare by throwing more money at it is a lot like trying to fight a fire by smothering it with gasoline.
jflb96
Bipedalism is fine, so long as you don’t start selecting for brain size
Kimi
Why not just have it mature in a pouch like marsupials instead?
Yumi
Why can’t we just lay eggs
Taffy
Settle down, Kakyoin.
Yumi
What?
*Googles*
…Yeah, okay.
Roborat
You want to push out an egg large enough to contain a baby?
Wizard
Thing is, the hands, feet and big brains all came as kind of a package. Adapting to walk upright allowed the forelimbs to specialize in grasping and manipulation. Keeping all this new stuff coordinated and taking maximum advantage of it required bigger, fancier brains. Eventually brain size and gestational development came to a rough equilibrium. Whether or not this balance is ideal is highly debatable, but the only thing natural selection cares about is “Does this work often enough for a population to sustain itself?”
StClair
Yeah, that’s one of the most persistent wrong ideas about evolution: it doesn’t select for “perfect” or “better”, just “good enough.”
Masumi