“…She was not a bona fide…”
“Lesbian?”
“You like saying it.”
“I do”
“Keep going-”
“Lesbian, lesbian…….. lesbian. All together now…”
Almost everyone; “Lesbian.”
“I also like to watch. How many people-”
*Gets talked over by the Judge…*
“That’s enough…”
Daniel the Human & I both enjoy the silliness of this scene… https://youtu.be/zluIU7iAzr0
“In lust” is kind of a dismissive way that puritanical Christians frame a romantic interest that has a physical attraction part to it as just being horny.
Cholma
I don’t know about that. It’s possible, but the way I’ve always thought of it, “lust” has nothing to do with romantic interest; you’re just horny for that person. You can know about someone’s personality, but you see them and think, “wow, I’d like to Fork that!” (and then they put a cigarette in their mouth and the lust flies away like it never was)
blal
You kind of proved your point the wrong way. Lust is sexual attraction, which is a key component of love. If you don’t have it, romantic interest isn’t terribly likely. Cigarettes remove your attraction. Are you as likely to fall in love with a chain smoker as a non-smoker? Probably not.
Tan
Okay allosexual.
Buttery Commissar
Right? My eyebrows met my hairline for a sec as an asexual who’s been in long term relationships.
Carms
Yea wow.
Nova
Yeah, this whole thread is full of people saying some pretty ace-erasing things. I apologize for my fellow allos :X
Inahc
and on top of that, like… the english word “love” is ridiculously broad. so technically it’s wrong on multiple levels, because parents love their children, you can love food… nothing sexual *or* romantic about many kinds of love.
Imogen
Hi, I’m asexual, and sexual or intimate attraction is a key element of romantic love. It’s not the only component, and not everybody feels it, just like not everybody feels romantic love at all. Intimate attraction is really, really important, and being able to enjoy intimacy with someone is crucial to many relationships. We dismiss that as shallow, but it’s just another kind of love–the love of someone’s body and how they express their sexuality.
Imogen
And once again, just to emphasize, not everyone feels it, and that’s okay! Their love can be just as deep and intense.
Anyways, I think calling Lucy “in lust with Walky” is maybe a little premature, but she is moving pretty quickly here. I think she feels underqualified for Walky liking her, so she’s moving quick to make herself feel safer. She doesn’t realize she can “do better”.
Cholma
But you can fall in love with someone you aren’t physically attracted to; beauty is fleeting, but your personality/character is what causes someone to love another. I can see “attractiveness” being the thing that might make you initially want to know the other person, but lust is just a raw desire for sex; there’s no romantic intent behind it. *(I’m guessing that’s why Tinder exists; from what I’ve heard, it’s not a dating site, it’s a hookup site)
*shrug* IDK, I can only speak from own limited experience. Hell, I should probably just shut up since I’m one of the least qualified people to speak on this subject.
Psychie
One can also be sexually attracted to someone for non-physical reasons. Hell I’ve lusted after people who I’ve only ever engaged via text and have no idea what they look like, usually because they have a sexy personality.
It has also been documented that people can maintain a sexual attraction, or lust, toward someone they love even if that someone’s body has changed to the point that they would no longer fit with the first person’s “strike zone” (for lack of a better term). Like, I’m not attracted to women who are too overweight (I would like to be, because then I’d have more options, but sadly I am not), but if I fell in love, got married, and my wife got fat over the years, I could maintain my attraction due to my love (I hope).
Personally, I consider sexual attraction to be a necessary component for romantic love to develop, but once it’s there it’s my understanding that it can be maintained even if the sexual attraction goes away for whatever reason. However, I have been informed that there are asexuals who still develop romantic feelings like love despite the lack of sexual attraction of any kind. I don’t understand how that works, but apparently it must, since I see no reason they’d lie about that and I can’t imagine they would be wrong about their feelings to that extent.
The best I’ve been able to find each individual seems to have their own unique criteria for what is necessary to fall in love, and to stay in love, with another person. Emotions are poorly defined at best, and since we cannot actually experience what’s going on inside another person’s head the best we can do is reach a verbal consensus of reported feelings, which is a terrible way to produce a system of terminology that can be ascribed to individual experiences. Humanity has been failing to adequately put the simpler emotions like anger into words, let alone the complex ones like love, for millennia, so the best we can do is assume others reports for how their emotions work are correct even when they don’t line up with our own experiences.
Clif
You say semantics. I’ll say semiotics.
Let’s call the whole thing off.
Taffy
Booooo! Get off the stage! ???
helisa
> sexual attraction, which is a key component of love. If you don’t have it, romantic interest isn’t terribly likely
LOL that’s a funny yet terrible take
huesatlight
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. “In lust” has a different connotation than just horny, it suggests that someone who wants to be sexually intimate can’t also want to be emotionally intimate, and often implies that they are incapable of knowing if they want to be emotionally intimate.
It’s the youth group way to say their feelings aren’t real. She’s both horny for him and infatuated with him. Her panel 1 reaction is not the face of someone who merely horny.
thejeff
For me it doesn’t really have those connotations. I’d say more that lust can fool you into thinking it’s love and that if that’s what’s happening when the lust fades it won’t leave you with anything lasting.
But then I’d be more likely to describe her as infatuated than in lust. For many people the two are tightly linked.
huesatlight
“I’d say more that lust can fool you into thinking it’s love”
This is literally the attitude that I’m talking about.
thejeff
I guess I don’t understand then.
I don’t, for example, see that as barring wanting to be emotionally intimate.
As I said, I think infatuation is a better word, but it’s easy to fool yourself into thinking it’s more serious than that.
Tan
Accusing someone of being “in lust” means that they specifically lust after the person without any actual deeper connection, and that the relationship would crumble without sex (or the promise thereof) to hold it up. It does not mean EVERY person who is sexually attracted to their partner is only in lust with them. It isn’t (or at least shouldn’t be) an accusation made on the level of lust, it’s an accusation made on the lack of meaningful relationship-building.
If you are unhappy with puritanical types decrying lust as antithetical to love, no one here’s disagreeing with you, that’s bullshit. But some individual hormonal teenagers confusing lust for love (particularly when trying to justify ‘well obviously I wouldn’t have sex with someone I wasn’t genuinely in love with because internalized slut-shaming garbage’) is absolutely a thing.
No one here’s saying don’t find your partner hot. Just have a level of introspection to figure out if that’s all it is. And if it is, hey, go at it like bunnies for all I care, so long as you’re both on the same page that that’s what it is.
smolgrlboi
okay look everyone is getting too complex about this. being in lust means you want to fork someone. that’s it. it’s distinct from being in love because that might involve forking for some people sure but even so it is a lot more than just that. easy peasy.
I think she’s just fallen fast because I think Walky’s supposed to be her first actual boyfriend. It can be pretty easy to fall in to the trap of thinking your first partner is The One. Especially since she hasn’t had enough time for Walky to do anything to screw it up.
given how long we’ve seen her crush for beforehand i think it’s probably been restrained towards now
surprised she wouldn’t have said it on the first date even in a half joking way (be nice to hear it more platonically from friends too and normalize it even if it’s not ‘intense’ as a romantic relationship as opposed to friends who’d jokingly say it or butter someone up to get a gift from it lol)
I definitely tell my friends I love them (when I do) and I agree that should be more common! I’ve never actually run into anyone who minds it though, for whatever that’s worth.
anon
i suppose it would be awkward if you haven’t known each other for too long or someone with a partner to get the wrong idea if you did say like “i love you” and only being friends for like a month though if i was still in high school or had gone to college i’d prolly say it more to my female friends (though my group was pretty affectionate overall, to the point we even sat in each othersl aps, surprised that wasn’t an issue/give any mixed signals to the teenage guys at the time )
Well, let’s just hope a recovery drive has been made just in he needs a drive swap. Hope someone kept the product key if the OS wasn’t factory preloaded.
I mean he didn’t have to date her. Nah but for serious this one’s on Luce.
Steve C
I’ve been trying to figure out whether Walky (oblivious though he may be) should have seen this coming. I think the closest he came to catching on was this strip, but I still can’t decide whether or not he was being disingenuous or not. (That’s assuming Walky is even capable of such a thing. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/04-hompk/attheborder/
Sirksome
Y’know in retrospect I maybe should’ve seen it as more concerning that Walky was regarding Lucy with the same feelings one has for finding a 20$ bill in their pocket they didn’t know was there.
238 thoughts on “Leader”
Ana Chronistic
Walky is now suffering the consequences of the squinty meme eyes
…that, or sticker shock?
Ana Chronistic
OTHER L word?
…
Loss?
Laura
Lesbians
Screwball
“…She was not a bona fide…”
“Lesbian?”
“You like saying it.”
“I do”
“Keep going-”
“Lesbian, lesbian…….. lesbian. All together now…”
Almost everyone; “Lesbian.”
“I also like to watch. How many people-”
*Gets talked over by the Judge…*
“That’s enough…”
Daniel the Human & I both enjoy the silliness of this scene…
https://youtu.be/zluIU7iAzr0
Yotomoe
Lesbians. She’s in Lesbians with them.
Rose by Any Other Name
As am I.
I am often in lesbians.
….
You’ve been a wonderful audience. Thank you. Goodnight.
Yotomoe
NICE.
saltchocolate
*Applause*
davidbreslin101
[Cole Porter voice]
When I fall in lesbians
It will be forever
Or I’ll never fall in lesbians
Doctor_Who
It’s a reference to this movie scene.
Ana Chronistic
DontExplainTheJoke.jpg
huesatlight
Limerence.
uze
excellent ? it’s my favorite not-as-well-known-as-it-should-be word
Proxiehunter
Becky and Dina.
John Campbell
I’m assuming it means tomorrow’s strip is cutting to Becky.
Needfuldoer
He can move past it, and heal.
Reaver
Lasagna!
Mark
Legos.
Reaver
League of Legends
BBCC
YUP that’ll smack your two week boyfriend right in the face.
Yotomoe
Bad things happen to people who love Walky.
TemporalShrew
And then Walky DIED
The end
Needfuldoer
So who gets Brain!Walky?
Opus the Poet
Lucy, obvs.
Victor Riley
Welp… Lucy is up for a rude awakening. “I love that you know that about me” is not the same as “I love you” in the sense she’s thinking.
Cholma
Yeah, that was quite the leap she took. She’s probably more in lust with him, then in love anyway.
Animedingo
You would think her brother would have caught that.
anon
i’m sure he’ll have something to say about it tomorrow lol
huesatlight
“In lust” is kind of a dismissive way that puritanical Christians frame a romantic interest that has a physical attraction part to it as just being horny.
Cholma
I don’t know about that. It’s possible, but the way I’ve always thought of it, “lust” has nothing to do with romantic interest; you’re just horny for that person. You can know about someone’s personality, but you see them and think, “wow, I’d like to Fork that!” (and then they put a cigarette in their mouth and the lust flies away like it never was)
blal
You kind of proved your point the wrong way. Lust is sexual attraction, which is a key component of love. If you don’t have it, romantic interest isn’t terribly likely. Cigarettes remove your attraction. Are you as likely to fall in love with a chain smoker as a non-smoker? Probably not.
Tan
Okay allosexual.
Buttery Commissar
Right? My eyebrows met my hairline for a sec as an asexual who’s been in long term relationships.
Carms
Yea wow.
Nova
Yeah, this whole thread is full of people saying some pretty ace-erasing things. I apologize for my fellow allos :X
Inahc
and on top of that, like… the english word “love” is ridiculously broad. so technically it’s wrong on multiple levels, because parents love their children, you can love food… nothing sexual *or* romantic about many kinds of love.
Imogen
Hi, I’m asexual, and sexual or intimate attraction is a key element of romantic love. It’s not the only component, and not everybody feels it, just like not everybody feels romantic love at all. Intimate attraction is really, really important, and being able to enjoy intimacy with someone is crucial to many relationships. We dismiss that as shallow, but it’s just another kind of love–the love of someone’s body and how they express their sexuality.
Imogen
And once again, just to emphasize, not everyone feels it, and that’s okay! Their love can be just as deep and intense.
Anyways, I think calling Lucy “in lust with Walky” is maybe a little premature, but she is moving pretty quickly here. I think she feels underqualified for Walky liking her, so she’s moving quick to make herself feel safer. She doesn’t realize she can “do better”.
Cholma
But you can fall in love with someone you aren’t physically attracted to; beauty is fleeting, but your personality/character is what causes someone to love another. I can see “attractiveness” being the thing that might make you initially want to know the other person, but lust is just a raw desire for sex; there’s no romantic intent behind it. *(I’m guessing that’s why Tinder exists; from what I’ve heard, it’s not a dating site, it’s a hookup site)
*shrug* IDK, I can only speak from own limited experience. Hell, I should probably just shut up since I’m one of the least qualified people to speak on this subject.
Psychie
One can also be sexually attracted to someone for non-physical reasons. Hell I’ve lusted after people who I’ve only ever engaged via text and have no idea what they look like, usually because they have a sexy personality.
It has also been documented that people can maintain a sexual attraction, or lust, toward someone they love even if that someone’s body has changed to the point that they would no longer fit with the first person’s “strike zone” (for lack of a better term). Like, I’m not attracted to women who are too overweight (I would like to be, because then I’d have more options, but sadly I am not), but if I fell in love, got married, and my wife got fat over the years, I could maintain my attraction due to my love (I hope).
Personally, I consider sexual attraction to be a necessary component for romantic love to develop, but once it’s there it’s my understanding that it can be maintained even if the sexual attraction goes away for whatever reason. However, I have been informed that there are asexuals who still develop romantic feelings like love despite the lack of sexual attraction of any kind. I don’t understand how that works, but apparently it must, since I see no reason they’d lie about that and I can’t imagine they would be wrong about their feelings to that extent.
The best I’ve been able to find each individual seems to have their own unique criteria for what is necessary to fall in love, and to stay in love, with another person. Emotions are poorly defined at best, and since we cannot actually experience what’s going on inside another person’s head the best we can do is reach a verbal consensus of reported feelings, which is a terrible way to produce a system of terminology that can be ascribed to individual experiences. Humanity has been failing to adequately put the simpler emotions like anger into words, let alone the complex ones like love, for millennia, so the best we can do is assume others reports for how their emotions work are correct even when they don’t line up with our own experiences.
Clif
You say semantics. I’ll say semiotics.
Let’s call the whole thing off.
Taffy
Booooo! Get off the stage! ???
helisa
> sexual attraction, which is a key component of love. If you don’t have it, romantic interest isn’t terribly likely
LOL that’s a funny yet terrible take
huesatlight
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. “In lust” has a different connotation than just horny, it suggests that someone who wants to be sexually intimate can’t also want to be emotionally intimate, and often implies that they are incapable of knowing if they want to be emotionally intimate.
It’s the youth group way to say their feelings aren’t real. She’s both horny for him and infatuated with him. Her panel 1 reaction is not the face of someone who merely horny.
thejeff
For me it doesn’t really have those connotations. I’d say more that lust can fool you into thinking it’s love and that if that’s what’s happening when the lust fades it won’t leave you with anything lasting.
But then I’d be more likely to describe her as infatuated than in lust. For many people the two are tightly linked.
huesatlight
“I’d say more that lust can fool you into thinking it’s love”
This is literally the attitude that I’m talking about.
thejeff
I guess I don’t understand then.
I don’t, for example, see that as barring wanting to be emotionally intimate.
As I said, I think infatuation is a better word, but it’s easy to fool yourself into thinking it’s more serious than that.
Tan
Accusing someone of being “in lust” means that they specifically lust after the person without any actual deeper connection, and that the relationship would crumble without sex (or the promise thereof) to hold it up. It does not mean EVERY person who is sexually attracted to their partner is only in lust with them. It isn’t (or at least shouldn’t be) an accusation made on the level of lust, it’s an accusation made on the lack of meaningful relationship-building.
If you are unhappy with puritanical types decrying lust as antithetical to love, no one here’s disagreeing with you, that’s bullshit. But some individual hormonal teenagers confusing lust for love (particularly when trying to justify ‘well obviously I wouldn’t have sex with someone I wasn’t genuinely in love with because internalized slut-shaming garbage’) is absolutely a thing.
No one here’s saying don’t find your partner hot. Just have a level of introspection to figure out if that’s all it is. And if it is, hey, go at it like bunnies for all I care, so long as you’re both on the same page that that’s what it is.
smolgrlboi
okay look everyone is getting too complex about this. being in lust means you want to fork someone. that’s it. it’s distinct from being in love because that might involve forking for some people sure but even so it is a lot more than just that. easy peasy.
ProtoMan
I think she’s just fallen fast because I think Walky’s supposed to be her first actual boyfriend. It can be pretty easy to fall in to the trap of thinking your first partner is The One. Especially since she hasn’t had enough time for Walky to do anything to screw it up.
anon
given how long we’ve seen her crush for beforehand i think it’s probably been restrained towards now
surprised she wouldn’t have said it on the first date even in a half joking way (be nice to hear it more platonically from friends too and normalize it even if it’s not ‘intense’ as a romantic relationship as opposed to friends who’d jokingly say it or butter someone up to get a gift from it lol)
Nova
I definitely tell my friends I love them (when I do) and I agree that should be more common! I’ve never actually run into anyone who minds it though, for whatever that’s worth.
anon
i suppose it would be awkward if you haven’t known each other for too long or someone with a partner to get the wrong idea if you did say like “i love you” and only being friends for like a month though if i was still in high school or had gone to college i’d prolly say it more to my female friends (though my group was pretty affectionate overall, to the point we even sat in each othersl aps, surprised that wasn’t an issue/give any mixed signals to the teenage guys at the time )
Doctor_Who
Walky.exe has encountered an error. Abort, Retry, Fail?
UrsulaDavina
It might be worse then that it may require looking in bios check to see if the hard drive is still showing up he may need to be reformated.
Doctor_Who
Reinstallation in progress: insert McNugget 1 of 20.
Grayfinity
Well, let’s just hope a recovery drive has been made just in he needs a drive swap. Hope someone kept the product key if the OS wasn’t factory preloaded.
Amós Batista
user may must push Reset button in order to restart it
jpnr
you done fuck up walky
Yumi
Not sure I can really put this one on Walky…
Ty34er
Yeah, I’d say this is on her
Sirksome
I mean he didn’t have to date her. Nah but for serious this one’s on Luce.
Steve C
I’ve been trying to figure out whether Walky (oblivious though he may be) should have seen this coming. I think the closest he came to catching on was this strip, but I still can’t decide whether or not he was being disingenuous or not. (That’s assuming Walky is even capable of such a thing. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/04-hompk/attheborder/
Sirksome
Y’know in retrospect I maybe should’ve seen it as more concerning that Walky was regarding Lucy with the same feelings one has for finding a 20$ bill in their pocket they didn’t know was there.
thakoru
No comma in that sentence.
Thag Simmons
he could have spoken more precisely but that would have only delayed the problem
Nova
He spoke pretty precisely, he said he loved something fairly specific and she extrapolated.
Reltzik
Well it IS the third date…
spriteless aunty
I don’t think he messed up, but he is scared this will go the same way as with Dorothy now.
Sirksome
The small bit of confidence I had from yesterday’s strip that this relationship was starting to progress to mutual desire just eroded.
Yumi
Eroded is a very gentle word for what happened to my sense of the relationship, I think.
pope suburban
Same. I wasn’t really feeling it before, but now…oof. She’s into him in a way he does not return, and that will make for a rude awakening.
alongcameaspider