If we’re going by quantity of Biblical text they both share, it’s considerably more than half. The New Testament is a great deal less than half the Christian Bible. It’s not even a quarter, in page count.
It’s encouraging to me that she thinks vampires in Twilight end up converted away from their vampirism like she intends to save the poor non-Christians, because it means she can’t have watched Twilight very carefully.
Think of it like a movie. The Torah is the first one and the New Testament is the sequel. Then the Qu’ran comes out and it retcons the last one like it never happened. There’s still Jesus but he’s not the main character any more and the messiah hasn’t shown up yet.
Jews like the first movie but ignored the sequels, Christians think you need to watch the first two, but the third movie doesn’t count. Muslims think the third one was the best, and Mormons liked the second one so much they started writing fanfiction that doesn’t fit with any of the series canon.
Actually, yes. In Islam’s view, it is Phase 3 after Judaism and Christianity. It reveres all the same prophets as Jews and Christians do and feels that Prophet Muhammad received the final attempt to share God’s message with humans.
Slipgate
You know, I understood being the old man. Being Dorothy is strange. 🙂
Volkai
You see, Judaism is like Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition. Christianity is like Dungeons in Dragons 4th Edition. Islam is like Pathfinder.
Compare 4th Ed. and Pathfinder (or Christianity and Islam) and you’ll see they have a common origin in 3rd Edition (or Judaism) but that took this origin and pulled it in very different directions while also leaving their source material far behind.
Yes, I just compared the big three monotheistic religions to Dungeons & Dragons. Deal with it.
You are my hero for doing that. Someone should mail this to Jack Chick.
Strephon
What are 1st and 2nd edition in this scenario?
Nifar
Clearly the pre-Judaistic pagan religions.
Commoyojimbo
I will deal with this in the only way I know how (and prove I’m both long in the tooth and late to the party in the process)
1st Edition is Judaism: The Law was passed down on set of tablets and was seen to be good for a select few in an early time.
2nd Edition is Christianity: Most of what came before was perfect, but we have a real excitement for a few clauses in the old texts and that is totally the way forward. Oh, and the Powers that be aren’t going to make sure you’re Job’ed if you do, Job’ed if you don’t (YMMV by DM). At least they won’t be quite as demony (again, YMMV). Popularity skyrockets, and the new sect looks down on the traditionalists (*Reports of Pogroms against 1ed players are dismissed as a paranoid delusion)
2nd Edition (this is not 3rd edition 3rd edition, when WTC took over initially) is the Apocrypha: Sure, someone wrote that. I even like some of it… ok I like some of it a lot. But it isn’t something we talk about without burning people…with fire.
3rd Edition (for real this time): All the rest of this is technically true, but we’re under new management so here is how you are going to think of how things really work. They were on the right track, but here’s a whole new framework for it. Also, feats.
3.5 Edition: Probably Mormonism. I stopped caring.
4th Edition: Scientology?
Palladium: Buddhism. There are many faces of the universe, but at its core it is unchanging and just looking for new ways to discover itself.
GURPS: Taoism…no, really…just go with it.
D20: Pagan faiths as defined as none of the above. What you were doing the whole time with your house rules and your home brew brick-a-brack.
Pathfinder: Satanism. You have to vilify the new guy.
P.S. My spell check already knew GURPS…I’m not sure if I’m happy or sad.
Commoyojimbo
3rd Edition is Islam. I can check for spelling like a mofo, but content?
Islam would be the digital remastering of the original now out on Blueray, produced by popular demand, after so many hardcore fans were furious about the massive rewrites that changed everything to what was more politically convenient at the time.
The test was to gauge how much work she’ll need to put into “fixing him”. Due to the fact he’s the first and only guy to ask her out, in her head that means he really wants to marry her, but first she must convert him into her faith, and then everything will be “perfect”.
nah, in roomies she was more about staying clean & being in love with danny this one is just … strange o.O
0ushiza
Well she still is staying pure and both cases she became obsessive easily. The only difference is that she talks to Joe first in DoA rather than Danny like in roomies.
yeah, most christians i’ve met are like that are just kinda “whatever i’m a christian” while others (like my neighbor) is pretty much shoving it down your throat, that’s why whenever they’re outside, i’m inside >_>
159 thoughts on “Twilight”
Jabberwocky
Joyce, honey, “Jewish” does not mean “half-Christian.”
wnderjif
yes it does. monotheism is half the battle.
Kernanator
Go Joe!
Undrave
Well it means half the Christian Bible :p you know the one with all the heathen killin’, rapin’ and slavin’ and firey stuff and long desert walks.
You know the fun part!
Taellosse
If we’re going by quantity of Biblical text they both share, it’s considerably more than half. The New Testament is a great deal less than half the Christian Bible. It’s not even a quarter, in page count.
BrokenEye, True False Prophet
You think the Torah’s the fun part? Read Revelation. Dropping acid before doing so is optional, but not encouraged.
David Herbert
Well originally christians were the next step in Judaism when it first came around. So technically, I guess.
R
I think it’s more accurate to say that Christians believed/believe they were the next step in Judaism.
Undrave
So… the Pope is Magneto?
Pagannerd
Someone, please please please photoshop either Sir Ian McKellen as the Pope, or Pope Benedict XVI as Magneto, STAT.
Shashulfrashul
Consider it done. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/SilentHun/Popneto.png
Plasma Mongoose
heh heh 😀
Magnus369
That was flat out awesome. Although I’d still love to see Sir Ian McKellen as the pope. *saves the image to add to his other bizarre pope shops*
mpark6288
If it was the other way around from Shashulfrashul, I might convert. Would make it easy, since Magneto is Jewish.
nothri
“So… the Pope is Magneto?”
Well, he was a part of the catholic inquisition in that Marvel 1602 miniseries Neil Gaiman wrote.
God i love being a nerd.
Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
It’s because Jesus came to fulfill the law, He’s the son of God and all things go through Him. But true, you can’t be a half Christian,
And that last comment by her just made me lose a little credibility in her. Twilight, oy vey.
Jenny Creed
It’s encouraging to me that she thinks vampires in Twilight end up converted away from their vampirism like she intends to save the poor non-Christians, because it means she can’t have watched Twilight very carefully.
JK9000
Does that make Islam, like, Phase 3, or what?
ADHadh
A spin-off.
Pagannerd
A Hollywood reboot? Sorry, “Re-Imagining”?
moonchylde
I can’t claim to have written this (FoFoF quote):
Think of it like a movie. The Torah is the first one and the New Testament is the sequel. Then the Qu’ran comes out and it retcons the last one like it never happened. There’s still Jesus but he’s not the main character any more and the messiah hasn’t shown up yet.
Jews like the first movie but ignored the sequels, Christians think you need to watch the first two, but the third movie doesn’t count. Muslims think the third one was the best, and Mormons liked the second one so much they started writing fanfiction that doesn’t fit with any of the series canon.
Pigeon
Pretty accurate
Raye J
*applauds*
Slipgate
Actually, yes. In Islam’s view, it is Phase 3 after Judaism and Christianity. It reveres all the same prophets as Jews and Christians do and feels that Prophet Muhammad received the final attempt to share God’s message with humans.
Slipgate
You know, I understood being the old man. Being Dorothy is strange. 🙂
Volkai
You see, Judaism is like Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition. Christianity is like Dungeons in Dragons 4th Edition. Islam is like Pathfinder.
Compare 4th Ed. and Pathfinder (or Christianity and Islam) and you’ll see they have a common origin in 3rd Edition (or Judaism) but that took this origin and pulled it in very different directions while also leaving their source material far behind.
Yes, I just compared the big three monotheistic religions to Dungeons & Dragons. Deal with it.
dchorror
You are my hero for doing that. Someone should mail this to Jack Chick.
Strephon
What are 1st and 2nd edition in this scenario?
Nifar
Clearly the pre-Judaistic pagan religions.
Commoyojimbo
I will deal with this in the only way I know how (and prove I’m both long in the tooth and late to the party in the process)
1st Edition is Judaism: The Law was passed down on set of tablets and was seen to be good for a select few in an early time.
2nd Edition is Christianity: Most of what came before was perfect, but we have a real excitement for a few clauses in the old texts and that is totally the way forward. Oh, and the Powers that be aren’t going to make sure you’re Job’ed if you do, Job’ed if you don’t (YMMV by DM). At least they won’t be quite as demony (again, YMMV). Popularity skyrockets, and the new sect looks down on the traditionalists (*Reports of Pogroms against 1ed players are dismissed as a paranoid delusion)
2nd Edition (this is not 3rd edition 3rd edition, when WTC took over initially) is the Apocrypha: Sure, someone wrote that. I even like some of it… ok I like some of it a lot. But it isn’t something we talk about without burning people…with fire.
3rd Edition (for real this time): All the rest of this is technically true, but we’re under new management so here is how you are going to think of how things really work. They were on the right track, but here’s a whole new framework for it. Also, feats.
3.5 Edition: Probably Mormonism. I stopped caring.
4th Edition: Scientology?
Palladium: Buddhism. There are many faces of the universe, but at its core it is unchanging and just looking for new ways to discover itself.
GURPS: Taoism…no, really…just go with it.
D20: Pagan faiths as defined as none of the above. What you were doing the whole time with your house rules and your home brew brick-a-brack.
Pathfinder: Satanism. You have to vilify the new guy.
P.S. My spell check already knew GURPS…I’m not sure if I’m happy or sad.
Commoyojimbo
3rd Edition is Islam. I can check for spelling like a mofo, but content?
Hinoron
Islam would be the digital remastering of the original now out on Blueray, produced by popular demand, after so many hardcore fans were furious about the massive rewrites that changed everything to what was more politically convenient at the time.
The A.D.D. Kidd
Hail Satan.
Jen Aside
SHE ACCEPTED D= I thought he failed.
Or does taking the test count as 100%
Shift
The test was to gauge how much work she’ll need to put into “fixing him”. Due to the fact he’s the first and only guy to ask her out, in her head that means he really wants to marry her, but first she must convert him into her faith, and then everything will be “perfect”.
Undrave
Wrong and hilarious!
David Herbert
Maybe she’ll grow to realise jews are people too.
JK9000
She knows they’re people! They’re just people doomed to everlasting hellfire unless she can steer them to the right path.
Fissioninferno
I don’t think Twilight is kosher.
Undrave
It was written by a Mormon! Its softcore porn for wholesome god-fearing Christian girls!
Gianni
Actually, that explains so many of my female friends who love that stuff…
addude
I don’t no if I’m more uneasy about the forced conversion or the twilight vampire reference. No the twilight franchise is more upsetting
Osaru Sensei
This Strip = DOWANT
Twilight = DONOTWANT.
addude
yup
Joe
I’m sorry Joyce, I know you have good intentions, but I can’t wait for you to be blown off your pedestal.
Hopefully Mike does it.
Gianni
You want Mike to blow Joyce??
Socks
i love joyce but this joyce is juuuuuust a bit weird XD
Jackson
No kidding. She is redefining the deep end with just how off it she is.
Someone
I’m finding her weirdness endearing, myself. There’s nothing like rabid nature to amuse.
Shift
I’m finding it hard to like this version of Joyce. Her actions and behavior is just coming off a bit “The call is coming from inside the house”.
CWR
I prefer to think of it as “The call is coming from inside the horse”.
It amuses me.
0ushiza
she’s about the same as the joyce in roomies
Socks
nah, in roomies she was more about staying clean & being in love with danny this one is just … strange o.O
0ushiza
Well she still is staying pure and both cases she became obsessive easily. The only difference is that she talks to Joe first in DoA rather than Danny like in roomies.
mpark6288
I think she is just getting more of an opportunity to flex her crazy here. Upgraded to main protagonist, upgraded to major crazy.
Jonathan
Its funny, I knew i girl like her. Not the marriage thing but the convert to christianity thing. No fun.
Socks
yeah, most christians i’ve met are like that are just kinda “whatever i’m a christian” while others (like my neighbor) is pretty much shoving it down your throat, that’s why whenever they’re outside, i’m inside >_>
creativerealms
Yeah she’s weird but no weirder then Joyce Prime was back in roomies.
Joebo
Aww man, this universe has Twilight too? Truly this is a hellish place.
Plasma Mongoose
Thanks to Joyce’s comment, the idea of sparklely jews came into my head.
JackNapier
It’ll be like Avatar but with Jews instead of aliens. Wait…
Someone
Now you’re being silly, Avatar was space magical native americans, not space jews.
MeHael
And Jews in Space was done by Mel Brooks anyway
Bill M.
Yeah, when is he going to get around to giving us History of the World, Part 2?
Lokitsu
Its scheduled for release on the day after Duke Nukem Forever goes gold
dchorror
So a couple of months ago?
RaijinK
I love how Joyce apparently said that last part loud enough for people 20 feet away to turn their heads and give her an incredulous look.
Cha
It just means they’ve been forewarned!
agentksilver
Twilight is just that terrible.
Ragnal
DAMMIT WILLIS, I’m trying to get off the anti-Twilight bandwagon as it is, stop making this harder for me! >_<
Mimi
You and me both!!!
MLEst1
I’m perfectly fine with it. In fact, just today I bought a Twilight parody called Nightlight. I’m liking to Twi-hate ^_^
Shift