If being an asshole was punishable by death, our leaders would never be where they are today. Really is a shame that being an asshole isn’t punishable by death.
If being an asshole were punishable by death, 80% of humanity wouldn’t survive adolescence.
HeySo
19.8% would die immediately after, and the remaining .2% would be vegetarian loners who’d get by off the technicality that they can’t be bothered to interact with any other living creatures.
After which I can only assume that, for the continued survival of the human race, automated insemination/surrogacy banks and AI teachers will be introduced. Or we just give up and call it a day.. though I guess that’s a sentiment we’re living by already, so the only real gain from this process would be that we wouldn’t have to interact with people or deal with BS politics anymore.
…I’m actually kinda sold, how about y’all?
Mollyscribbles
I’m reminded of the Kino’s Journey story where a country that was convinced they were all really nice people who’d want to help everyone who needed it made themselves all mind-readers so that they’d be able to offer assistance even to those who couldn’t speak up to request it. Turns out everyone had the occasional assholeish thought and without the filter of speech, none of them could stand each other, so they basically lived like this with the isolation and automation.
HeySo
Man, I haven’t thought of Kino’s Journey in a good long while (though I’ve watched both anime adaptations). Great anime (and definitely among the very best for those with an episode-by-episode narrative format), and a solid lead character.
In fact, there’s not really much competition at all for the niche it fills- Girls’ Last Tour is the only one that comes to mind and, while it’s good (it may be one to try, for those who like Kino), it’s a bit more slice-of-life/atmospheric in its vibe, whereas Kino is all about directly and intimately interacting with various people.
I can recall a couple more that have a self-contained episodic style, but they’re a bit more eccentric/over-the-top, and thus less relatable from a character/story-driven perspective. Or are ones which completely [very rare exceptions aside] avoid character or narrative growth, like Detective Conan.
I think I may need to rewatch Kino at some point.. More than that, I’d absolutely love to see something like that made into a long-running show, if the quality can be maintained well enough.
Mollyscribbles
They’ve actually started releasing a manga version of it! And there’s fan translations of the light novels available (still bitter the official translations stopped at the first volume).
HeySo
I try to avoid light novels on the whole, as I either get aggravated with the fanfic level of writing skill of the original author, or the elementary-school level writing skill of the associated translator. :S
On the other hand, with Manga being so much less demanding on scene framing, those are always an appetizing thing to go after [though some of those youtube “translations” will easily drive you to Lovecraftian-level madness]. Seems like there’s even two different manga for it?
“There are currently two ongoing Kino’s Journey manga: one by Gou, and one by Iruka Shiomiya. They were both released in 2017 and follow random chapters of the Kino’s Journey -the Beautiful World- novel series.”
Guess I’ll rewatch the anime and then hit the manga. Thanks for the heads up! ^.^
Side-note, even though I avoid light novels myself, my high level of anime/manga interest means I easily hear about the shockingly high number of untranslated, highly respected works out there (some with really cool premises). I’m both appreciative of that fact, but also irked to come across a great concept and realize that there’s no manga translation and the LN translation is.. well, to my usual expectations.
Still better than dropped translations, though- totally agree with you on that being a major frustration. I’ve even had manga translations drop on enjoyable manga after around 70 chapters before, while the manga continues on into 400+. Official translations seem to be the worst about dropping manga, weirdly, and the fact that they were at any point officially translated can inhibit future fan translations.
Nevermind that official manga translations [most especially among app-based translation/hosting services] are all-too-often barely above bottom-of-the-barrel youtube level, and well below the average for fan translations. -.-;
HeySo
Ah, oops- my first paragraph is intended to state that those aspects are all too common to the medium, not that they’re universal for it. Sorry about any misleading phrasing there.
I’ve gotten into light novels, but mostly for shows I’ve already seen, like Classroom of the Elite, The Rising of the Shield Hero, and Restaurant to Another World. Some of it I think is how readable they are, since The Saga of Tanya the Evil is an interesting show, but I could NOT get through the “light” novel 1. bc I already barely process political dramas that well and 2. the text was just too small for me to read easily. (I have a similar problem with the copy of Good Omens I have, to be fair–it’s definitely funny, but the lack of chapter breaks other than the main three(?) makes it draining, like a big infodump)
walterw
never heard of “kino’s journey” until just now
as a dilettante (won’t read the manga, will only watch english dubs), which version do i want to watch, the old one or the new one?
Mollyscribbles
I loved the old one, for what it’s worth. The episode I described is the first in the series, IIRC.
HeySo
iirc, they cover different things, and the second one threw you in with a mild expectation of familarity with the setting? So I think the original one was the better one to start with (but again, it’s been a while). Though, it’s worth noting that the original is dated on graphics and dates to before America started taking dubbing even remotely seriously.
So.. if you’re watching the dubbed version, expect weak/sporadic quality for the voice acting and weak animation both. If that’s not a turn-off (and taking a quick look at the dubbing, it really is for me, yeesh), I’d say “more Kino is better”.
I guess, the best approach would be to watch through the first episode of the first anime, see if you’re okay with it. If not, move to the next series?
Well, all of slapstick, insult comedy, blue comedy, character comedy, and the majority of sitcoms and British humor, perhaps. Black comedy and satire’d be heavily cut, as well. On the other hand, there are plenty of forms of comedy that don’t involve assholery- absurdism, parody, wordplay and other quips/witticisms, improv, and anti-humor come readily to mind.
Wait, if comedy does die, would it automatically become black comedy? Or anti-humor? Or both? As such, is it even possible for comedy to die, so long as people still have any recollection of its existence? :mulls:
He’s nowhere near acting like Mike. Mike would do this shit on purpose for a giggle, and only stop because he figures he’s hit the point where they won’t put up with it any more. Y’know, because then he doesn’t get to fuck with them for fun again.
And here I thought we’d already sunk the last of the Titanic references half a decade back. But once more you open the door, and you’re here with the meme, and the meme will go on and on.
Ah here that’s shovel you were looking for Wilcox. I admire your tenacity. Some people would know when to quit digging, but not you. Let’s hope you find what you’re looking for down there.
I mean, sure- at this rate, he’ll reach china.. after which he’ll then immediately contract an undiscovered strain of societal coronavirus, and savage society simply by breathing.
Okay, so that’ll give us Plague, and we’ve already had Death.. Mike atrophying away can be considered associative to Famine.. so now all we need is Ethan to become the embodiment of War, and we’ve got all the modern horsemen avatars embodied. >.>
clif
Do Wiki wars count?
HeySo
Actually, this comic has a lot of “Wiki Warriors” now that I think about it. Dorothy, Walky, and Ethan were all explicitly mentioned as being obsessive over wiki-correcting, as I recall. And maybe Amber as well? Guess there’s enough there for a spin-off. Not.. not entirely sure I’d want to read it, though. 😛
Regalli
That’s just Shortpackex, really. 😉
HeySo
I don’t really recall anyone but Ethan and maybe Amber being wiki-obssed in the original universe, though?
Which kinda makes sense, given that Dorothy and Walky are obsessed specifically over Dexter & Monkey Master [oh, and Carla for Ultra Car, now that I think about it- I imagine she also hit the wiki hard, given her similar level of obsession over her respective show], which obviously didn’t exist in the original universe.
Transformers, of course, are universal. Though in this universe, any potential “Foodformers” would have to worry about copyright infringement when making a Cheesebot (as The Cheese is also a D&MM character), so I guess there’s that potential difference! 😛
Yeah it’s kinda funny JJ loves the original trilogy so much he kinda ruined them by making Vader’s sacrifice pointless. Just goes to show the inmates shouldn’t run the asylum.
Take a bad boy make him dig five feet.
The dirt and shovels will give us the beat.
Okay you got to find somethin’ you never found before.
If not, we’ll just have to dig some more.
Danny I think apologizing and shutting up is the best idea here. Not only have you ruined any chance you had at confessing your feelings to Ethan, but you’ve quite possibly damaged your friendship with him.
Danny came to Ethan to confess his feelings while his friend is possibly DYING. Then says he doesn’t care about Ethan’s grief, the dying friend, and wants said friend to stay comatose.
AITA? I (M 18) told my crush (M 18) that his crush (M 18) who’s in a coma shouldn’t wake up because hurting my feelings is worse than destroying Alderaan?
459 thoughts on “Alderaan”
Ana Chronistic
Danny, hitting rock bottom and continuing to dig
like, assholery isn’t a crime punishable by death, dud (tho you’re following in Mike’s footsteps at this rate)
Kyrik Michalowski
If being an asshole was punishable by death, our leaders would never be where they are today. Really is a shame that being an asshole isn’t punishable by death.
YakkoRex
If being an asshole were punishable by death, 80% of humanity wouldn’t survive adolescence.
HeySo
19.8% would die immediately after, and the remaining .2% would be vegetarian loners who’d get by off the technicality that they can’t be bothered to interact with any other living creatures.
After which I can only assume that, for the continued survival of the human race, automated insemination/surrogacy banks and AI teachers will be introduced. Or we just give up and call it a day.. though I guess that’s a sentiment we’re living by already, so the only real gain from this process would be that we wouldn’t have to interact with people or deal with BS politics anymore.
…I’m actually kinda sold, how about y’all?
Mollyscribbles
I’m reminded of the Kino’s Journey story where a country that was convinced they were all really nice people who’d want to help everyone who needed it made themselves all mind-readers so that they’d be able to offer assistance even to those who couldn’t speak up to request it. Turns out everyone had the occasional assholeish thought and without the filter of speech, none of them could stand each other, so they basically lived like this with the isolation and automation.
HeySo
Man, I haven’t thought of Kino’s Journey in a good long while (though I’ve watched both anime adaptations). Great anime (and definitely among the very best for those with an episode-by-episode narrative format), and a solid lead character.
In fact, there’s not really much competition at all for the niche it fills- Girls’ Last Tour is the only one that comes to mind and, while it’s good (it may be one to try, for those who like Kino), it’s a bit more slice-of-life/atmospheric in its vibe, whereas Kino is all about directly and intimately interacting with various people.
I can recall a couple more that have a self-contained episodic style, but they’re a bit more eccentric/over-the-top, and thus less relatable from a character/story-driven perspective. Or are ones which completely [very rare exceptions aside] avoid character or narrative growth, like Detective Conan.
I think I may need to rewatch Kino at some point.. More than that, I’d absolutely love to see something like that made into a long-running show, if the quality can be maintained well enough.
Mollyscribbles
They’ve actually started releasing a manga version of it! And there’s fan translations of the light novels available (still bitter the official translations stopped at the first volume).
HeySo
I try to avoid light novels on the whole, as I either get aggravated with the fanfic level of writing skill of the original author, or the elementary-school level writing skill of the associated translator. :S
On the other hand, with Manga being so much less demanding on scene framing, those are always an appetizing thing to go after [though some of those youtube “translations” will easily drive you to Lovecraftian-level madness]. Seems like there’s even two different manga for it?
“There are currently two ongoing Kino’s Journey manga: one by Gou, and one by Iruka Shiomiya. They were both released in 2017 and follow random chapters of the Kino’s Journey -the Beautiful World- novel series.”
Guess I’ll rewatch the anime and then hit the manga. Thanks for the heads up! ^.^
Side-note, even though I avoid light novels myself, my high level of anime/manga interest means I easily hear about the shockingly high number of untranslated, highly respected works out there (some with really cool premises). I’m both appreciative of that fact, but also irked to come across a great concept and realize that there’s no manga translation and the LN translation is.. well, to my usual expectations.
Still better than dropped translations, though- totally agree with you on that being a major frustration. I’ve even had manga translations drop on enjoyable manga after around 70 chapters before, while the manga continues on into 400+. Official translations seem to be the worst about dropping manga, weirdly, and the fact that they were at any point officially translated can inhibit future fan translations.
Nevermind that official manga translations [most especially among app-based translation/hosting services] are all-too-often barely above bottom-of-the-barrel youtube level, and well below the average for fan translations. -.-;
HeySo
Ah, oops- my first paragraph is intended to state that those aspects are all too common to the medium, not that they’re universal for it. Sorry about any misleading phrasing there.
Ana Chronistic
I’ve gotten into light novels, but mostly for shows I’ve already seen, like Classroom of the Elite, The Rising of the Shield Hero, and Restaurant to Another World. Some of it I think is how readable they are, since The Saga of Tanya the Evil is an interesting show, but I could NOT get through the “light” novel 1. bc I already barely process political dramas that well and 2. the text was just too small for me to read easily. (I have a similar problem with the copy of Good Omens I have, to be fair–it’s definitely funny, but the lack of chapter breaks other than the main three(?) makes it draining, like a big infodump)
walterw
never heard of “kino’s journey” until just now
as a dilettante (won’t read the manga, will only watch english dubs), which version do i want to watch, the old one or the new one?
Mollyscribbles
I loved the old one, for what it’s worth. The episode I described is the first in the series, IIRC.
HeySo
iirc, they cover different things, and the second one threw you in with a mild expectation of familarity with the setting? So I think the original one was the better one to start with (but again, it’s been a while). Though, it’s worth noting that the original is dated on graphics and dates to before America started taking dubbing even remotely seriously.
So.. if you’re watching the dubbed version, expect weak/sporadic quality for the voice acting and weak animation both. If that’s not a turn-off (and taking a quick look at the dubbing, it really is for me, yeesh), I’d say “more Kino is better”.
I guess, the best approach would be to watch through the first episode of the first anime, see if you’re okay with it. If not, move to the next series?
FacelessDeviant
And comedy would be dead too.
HeySo
Well, all of slapstick, insult comedy, blue comedy, character comedy, and the majority of sitcoms and British humor, perhaps. Black comedy and satire’d be heavily cut, as well. On the other hand, there are plenty of forms of comedy that don’t involve assholery- absurdism, parody, wordplay and other quips/witticisms, improv, and anti-humor come readily to mind.
Wait, if comedy does die, would it automatically become black comedy? Or anti-humor? Or both? As such, is it even possible for comedy to die, so long as people still have any recollection of its existence? :mulls:
HeySo
Despite all that, I imagine there’ll still be people’ll attempting to excuse Danny’s behavior even after this, all while still criticizing Mike. -.-;
Mandolin
Yeah the first thing I blurted out upon reading this strip was “DANNY, STOP TALKING. STOP.”
Boom
He’s nowhere near acting like Mike. Mike would do this shit on purpose for a giggle, and only stop because he figures he’s hit the point where they won’t put up with it any more. Y’know, because then he doesn’t get to fuck with them for fun again.
JetstreamGW
This is truly fantastic. I don’t even know what he’s trying to do.
I was legitimately expecting Ethan to go off on him though. The lack of that part’s a little disappointing.
Doctor_Who
There’s sinking a ship, and then there’s showing up 80 years later to chuck the Heart of the Ocean into the water for good measure.
HeySo
Pfft.
And here I thought we’d already sunk the last of the Titanic references half a decade back. But once more you open the door, and you’re here with the meme, and the meme will go on and on.
Geneseepaws
My meme goes on forever?
HeySo
Near, far, wherever you are-
I believe that the meme does go on!
Smiling Cat
There are U-boat captains digging their way out of their graves right now just to compliment Danny on his technique.
Miri
Note that they are digging *up”, a direction Danny appears to have forsaken…
Jon Rich
“The Kreigsmarine never issued us a torpedo *that* powerful.”
Needfuldoer
James Cameron is in the Deepsea Challenger again, on his way down the hole Danny’s digging.
Geneseepaws
So very well commented; internet+2 and a plate of cookies for you.
Deanatay
KNEW THIS WAS
ONE WAY TRIP
BUT KNEW I
HAD TO TROLL
FUCK YOU MIKE
sidehack
This reference made my morning
russellmz
The lookouts were supposed to LOOK. OUT. Not watch Kate Winslet make out with some dude.
Reed
oh god why, why, why dig this hole for yourself right now.
Reed
please tell me it’s the hat that’s making him say all this…
Kyrik Michalowski
The hat might be constricting blood flow to his brain? But he seems to make these choices without the hat too, so the hat might merely be a hat.
Reltzik
Notably, his brain without the hat made the choice to get the hat.
James
This is the worst Mario Odyssey AU.
Regalli
Sadly, this relationship fail is the kind of thing Danny’s been doing since before the hat.
I think the hat is what’s preventing him from saying shit this self-centered.
Yotomoe
Ah here that’s shovel you were looking for Wilcox. I admire your tenacity. Some people would know when to quit digging, but not you. Let’s hope you find what you’re looking for down there.
Kyrik Michalowski
I think he’s looking to go so far on the other side that he ends up in proverbial china and fixes it somehow.
HeySo
I mean, sure- at this rate, he’ll reach china.. after which he’ll then immediately contract an undiscovered strain of societal coronavirus, and savage society simply by breathing.
Okay, so that’ll give us Plague, and we’ve already had Death.. Mike atrophying away can be considered associative to Famine.. so now all we need is Ethan to become the embodiment of War, and we’ve got all the modern horsemen avatars embodied. >.>
clif
Do Wiki wars count?
HeySo
Actually, this comic has a lot of “Wiki Warriors” now that I think about it. Dorothy, Walky, and Ethan were all explicitly mentioned as being obsessive over wiki-correcting, as I recall. And maybe Amber as well? Guess there’s enough there for a spin-off. Not.. not entirely sure I’d want to read it, though. 😛
Regalli
That’s just Shortpackex, really. 😉
HeySo
I don’t really recall anyone but Ethan and maybe Amber being wiki-obssed in the original universe, though?
Which kinda makes sense, given that Dorothy and Walky are obsessed specifically over Dexter & Monkey Master [oh, and Carla for Ultra Car, now that I think about it- I imagine she also hit the wiki hard, given her similar level of obsession over her respective show], which obviously didn’t exist in the original universe.
Transformers, of course, are universal. Though in this universe, any potential “Foodformers” would have to worry about copyright infringement when making a Cheesebot (as The Cheese is also a D&MM character), so I guess there’s that potential difference! 😛
Deanatay
Shovel won’t help – he’s hit bedrock. Get him a pick.
AeromechanicalAce
Danning it up again.
rachel
at a remarkable pace
Bagge
No one like the original
TemplarKnight
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C.T Phipps
Danny is basically saying, “Yeah, I hope your friend dies.”
Aviana
STAND YOUR GROUND WAS NOT A SUGGESTION FOR CLEANING UP THE MESS YOU MADE DANNY
Nono
The Danning Up of 2020 continues.
Cattleprod
Temporarily inconveniencing a marginally worse person totally makes up for all the youngling murder.
C.T Phipps
I think if you die then, yes, kind of.
geno
Yeah it’s kinda funny JJ loves the original trilogy so much he kinda ruined them by making Vader’s sacrifice pointless. Just goes to show the inmates shouldn’t run the asylum.
adam Black
Cant blame JJ for the 2nd time he actually adhered to the Books
Chris
Someone needs to teach Danny the First Rule of Holes.
Yumi
Take a bad boy make him dig five feet.
The dirt and shovels will give us the beat.
Okay you got to find somethin’ you never found before.
If not, we’ll just have to dig some more.
TheHorseCouncil
Maybe if he takes madame zeroni up the mountain he can lift the danning curse
Droewyn
That he’s lost all chance of filling Ethan’s Mike-shaped one?
March
Not learning to take “no” for an answer will get your lake and your children and grandchildren cursed?
Kyrik Michalowski
Danny I think apologizing and shutting up is the best idea here. Not only have you ruined any chance you had at confessing your feelings to Ethan, but you’ve quite possibly damaged your friendship with him.
Also, who else was expecting a cut away today?
C.T Phipps
Danny came to Ethan to confess his feelings while his friend is possibly DYING. Then says he doesn’t care about Ethan’s grief, the dying friend, and wants said friend to stay comatose.
That’s….kind of psychotic.
geno
It would be psychotic if that’s what he planned. Wilcox doesn’t do plans. He just Dans things up
Reltzik
No! No! Dig UP, stupid!
brute
god i wish I could Like this comment
HeySo
Nah, that’s how you get stuff like this:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/51/40/205140538d8255860589b8a1c36b8264.jpg
Bluewind
I wish to hug the puppy man and slap a dumbass. Who’s with me?
KSClaw
Danny. Danny just… stop.
General Tekno
I suspect Danny will be posting in /r/aita in the near future.
Portland
AITA? I (M 18) told my crush (M 18) that his crush (M 18) who’s in a coma shouldn’t wake up because hurting my feelings is worse than destroying Alderaan?