The worst thing i learned in the world of comics last year was that Mallard Fillmorehad enough brand recognition that when the hack who created it (Tinsley? I’m trying to forget) stopped drawing it, or was forced out, a new person was hired to take over the strip.
Circeus
Isn’t that somewhat standard operative procedure?
Daibhid C
Usually, although some end because they’re a personal project of the author. The only one I can think of which was work-for-hire and actually ended was Apartment 3-G, and that had turned into such a mess that the syndicate just wanted to burn it.
(Disclaimer: Everything I know about American newspaper comic strips was learned from The Comics Curmugeon.)
Daibhid C
(And, thinking about it, I guess “personal project of the author” is something you’d expect to apply to Right-Wing Duck Comics.)
thejeff
Some also likely end because they’re not profitable enough to go through the hassle.
Blindness
or too specialized and the content becomes repetitive.
One syndicate runs on a five-year contract, so a lot are built around that timeframe if the cartoonist is smart enough to see that his/her work is borderline
Yes, for popular strips which people love, or enjoy, or at least don’t actively hate*. Ergo, Mallard Fecking Fillmore?
*That “don’t actively hate” drives newsprint comics is pretty sad, actually.
Needfuldoer
I think he was arrested or got one too many DUIs or something. Unfortunately, Incredulous Anthropomorphic Republican Talking Duck will be with us forever. At least they got a competent artist who can kind-of ape Tinsley’s style and not somebody like the Dilbert guy.
(Now there’s a story of somebody getting high off their own supply. I used to read that strip before learning about the creator, now I just can’t. In retrospect, it shows in his work so we should’ve seen it coming…)
Blindness
His DUIs were over a decade ago. It’s more likely that it’s him being told to back away because of the election and what how nasty it was going to turn out to be. He’s back doing them, and likely was doing storyboarding and oversight but not actually working on it. Either that or he was sick and couldn’t do the work.
I had a feeling this would happen, but like an idiot I didn’t make that prediction public, and now I’m robbed of gloating about having ‘told you so’ because I never actually told anyone so
Someone called it less than a week(ish) ago. Something about Joyce making a comic in twenty years. I did a fake math check (comic timeline of a couple of semesters => 2 decades). It turns out they were right(ish) in that it’s happening within 20 years. Ha!/Oi vey.
Regalli
DoA is ten years old as a comic, so we seem to be one decade per (half- with a timeskip) semester.
Joyce’s inevitable descent into webcomics and eventually internet pornlordom has been a running gag since… well, at latest, sometime after Willis started describing himself as an Internet Pornlord because it’s a funny phrase and Joyce is incredibly repressed. I just don’t think any of us thought it might come true.
Deanatay
Phallady. Joyce identifies as female.
King Daniel
One of the hovertexts during the Whiteboard Ding-Dong Bandit arc described Joyce as a “future pornlord”, so the title seems to be gender-neutral.
She’s autobiographical, but she isn’t a self-insert. Other characters are allowed to embody the author’s real-life thoughts and experiences. Someone was probably gonna do a comic in-universe, but it didn’t necessarily have to be Joyce. (That said, having it be Joyce is a fun idea, especially after the Whiteboard Ding-Dong incident.)
Lars
So is Walky … and Danny and Ethan and Dina and probably most of the other characters to a degree.
And if Joyce, Walky, Ethan and Dina team up to draw the newspaper comic, the end result is Beast Wars fanfic with anatomical correct dinosaurs.
we know Walky can draw stuff (Dinosaurs at least) – but we’ve never seen him write anything (besides parts of the Dexter&Monkeymaster-Wiki)
we know Joyce can write stuff (Julia Gray por.. eh.. stories) – but we’ve never seen her draw anything (besides increasingly accurate dingdongs)
Okay, but neither one of them needs the whole stack if they are being conscientious about the environment. Joyce can still let him have a few pages lol
Also at five dollars a strip the supplies for drawing on paper cuts dangerously into your profit margins. Your cheap college student income ass is already outsourcing for supplies.You’ll propably be submitting this digitally anyway so just download a free art app (I recommend Krita) and draw the thing on your laptop with your mouse, or hell even your smartphone. I don’t think you’re actually ready for the independent comic business Walks.
He should’ve just swiped paper out of a printer or Xerox machine in the library. (You gotta do what you gotta do when a ream of copy paper costs an entire day’s pay.)
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Ana Chronistic
and then like, Sydney wins it
Thag Simmons
Nah.
It’d probably be Mary.
Doctor_Who
Oh god, I can just see it, Mallard Fillmore but everyone’s an anime character.
ValdVin
The worst thing i learned in the world of comics last year was that Mallard Fillmorehad enough brand recognition that when the hack who created it (Tinsley? I’m trying to forget) stopped drawing it, or was forced out, a new person was hired to take over the strip.
Circeus
Isn’t that somewhat standard operative procedure?
Daibhid C
Usually, although some end because they’re a personal project of the author. The only one I can think of which was work-for-hire and actually ended was Apartment 3-G, and that had turned into such a mess that the syndicate just wanted to burn it.
(Disclaimer: Everything I know about American newspaper comic strips was learned from The Comics Curmugeon.)
Daibhid C
(And, thinking about it, I guess “personal project of the author” is something you’d expect to apply to Right-Wing Duck Comics.)
thejeff
Some also likely end because they’re not profitable enough to go through the hassle.
Blindness
or too specialized and the content becomes repetitive.
One syndicate runs on a five-year contract, so a lot are built around that timeframe if the cartoonist is smart enough to see that his/her work is borderline
ValdVin
Yes, for popular strips which people love, or enjoy, or at least don’t actively hate*. Ergo, Mallard Fecking Fillmore?
*That “don’t actively hate” drives newsprint comics is pretty sad, actually.
Needfuldoer
I think he was arrested or got one too many DUIs or something. Unfortunately, Incredulous Anthropomorphic Republican Talking Duck will be with us forever. At least they got a competent artist who can kind-of ape Tinsley’s style and not somebody like the Dilbert guy.
(Now there’s a story of somebody getting high off their own supply. I used to read that strip before learning about the creator, now I just can’t. In retrospect, it shows in his work so we should’ve seen it coming…)
Blindness
His DUIs were over a decade ago. It’s more likely that it’s him being told to back away because of the election and what how nasty it was going to turn out to be. He’s back doing them, and likely was doing storyboarding and oversight but not actually working on it. Either that or he was sick and couldn’t do the work.
But it had nothing to do with the DUIs
ValdVin
Mallard Fillmore owes its entire existence to being the best right-wing cartoon out there. That’s a sad title to claim.
triplrrr
What happened to Bo?
Dara
oh god you reminded us of Ninja Rick xD
Doctor_Who
Joyce: “This’ll be easy! Like Chick Tracts, but hilarious on purpose!”
jeffepp
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/339029/Darkest-Dice
BBCC
Of course you do, sweetie. Of course you do.
Thag Simmons
I had a feeling this would happen, but like an idiot I didn’t make that prediction public, and now I’m robbed of gloating about having ‘told you so’ because I never actually told anyone so
Rex Vivat
It’s fine, we believe you.
Demoted Oblivious
Someone called it less than a week(ish) ago. Something about Joyce making a comic in twenty years. I did a fake math check (comic timeline of a couple of semesters => 2 decades). It turns out they were right(ish) in that it’s happening within 20 years. Ha!/Oi vey.
Regalli
DoA is ten years old as a comic, so we seem to be one decade per (half- with a timeskip) semester.
Joyce’s inevitable descent into webcomics and eventually internet pornlordom has been a running gag since… well, at latest, sometime after Willis started describing himself as an Internet Pornlord because it’s a funny phrase and Joyce is incredibly repressed. I just don’t think any of us thought it might come true.
Deanatay
Phallady. Joyce identifies as female.
King Daniel
One of the hovertexts during the Whiteboard Ding-Dong Bandit arc described Joyce as a “future pornlord”, so the title seems to be gender-neutral.
Rex Vivat
Yup, this one https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/cleaning/
Icalasari
Isn’t Joyce also based on Willis to a degree?
Guess a comic arc was inevitable due to that
RacingTurtle
She’s autobiographical, but she isn’t a self-insert. Other characters are allowed to embody the author’s real-life thoughts and experiences. Someone was probably gonna do a comic in-universe, but it didn’t necessarily have to be Joyce. (That said, having it be Joyce is a fun idea, especially after the Whiteboard Ding-Dong incident.)
Lars
So is Walky … and Danny and Ethan and Dina and probably most of the other characters to a degree.
And if Joyce, Walky, Ethan and Dina team up to draw the newspaper comic, the end result is Beast Wars fanfic with anatomical correct dinosaurs.
Suet
This. Means. WARRRRR
Or, yanno, make Walky the artist and Joyce the writer, whatever works.
jeffepp
Something like that. At least the making out part.
MacareuxMoine
sounds reasonable:
we know Walky can draw stuff (Dinosaurs at least) – but we’ve never seen him write anything (besides parts of the Dexter&Monkeymaster-Wiki)
we know Joyce can write stuff (Julia Gray por.. eh.. stories) – but we’ve never seen her draw anything (besides increasingly accurate dingdongs)
KSClaw
If you wanna beat the competition, don’t tell about the competition
Geneseepaws
I thought that was the second rule of Comix-Klub?
ian livs
Aw, yay, the smile’s back!
Azhrei Vep
Oh no, Sara’s joy!
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
As long as Sarah is elsewhere, she can be blissfully ignorant of Joyce’s happiness
jothki
Sara’s joy is safe, Joyce is draining it from Walky instead.
Thag Simmons
Yes, I’m happy with this turn of events.
I suspect the winner will be more determined by whoever appeals to Daisy’s particular editorial biases more.
Doctor_Who
“This Julia Gray character…can she have a chest window?”
MatthewTheLucky
Yes.
Bagge
“What, no? That would be silly.
President Kleener on the other hand…”
Thag Simmons
“Is the Leather Jacket, Aviators, and unintentional homoerotic subtext between her and Doris Kenner not enough?”
Carla's #2 Fan
Okay, but neither one of them needs the whole stack if they are being conscientious about the environment. Joyce can still let him have a few pages lol
I am Nothing
Carla’s #1 Fan is Carla herself, right?
Carla's #2 Fan
Yes! I’m glad someone caught that 😀
Bagge
Julia Gray – the comic
Jhon
Ace pilot Julia Gray takes off on another excellent adventure!
No paper for you, nachito boy!
Emperor Norton II
Daisy will demand that Julia’s romantic interest is a woman.
And then demand that Joyce draws their honeymoon.
In every. Single. Detail.
Stephen Bierce
*plays ABBA’s “The Name of the Game” on the hacked Muzak*
carl320
What a twist!
Some1
Meanwhile in Dina’s room:
Sarah: I want to kick a puppy now.
Yup
I hope this ends up with them working together, getting to know each other even better and accidentally ending up together.
Nono
Okay, so Dinosaurs with Bow ties (maybe two can be a Lady Dinosaur with Bow ties, just for Daisy) vs Julia Gray.
tim gueguen
Unfortunately for Joyce it will be rejected because of its name, Croomies.
Moon
🙂
Sirksome
Rookie mistake Walkman. You never reveal your insider knowledge before you’ve secured the deal.
Sirksome
Also at five dollars a strip the supplies for drawing on paper cuts dangerously into your profit margins. Your cheap college student income ass is already outsourcing for supplies.You’ll propably be submitting this digitally anyway so just download a free art app (I recommend Krita) and draw the thing on your laptop with your mouse, or hell even your smartphone. I don’t think you’re actually ready for the independent comic business Walks.
Demoted Oblivious
Take a page from dinosaur comics. Draw it /once/ in MS Paint and then it’s only text bubbles forever more.
bcb
Yea, but that requires Ryan North to write a lot of text, which Walky might view as too much work.
The Chosen One
Getting Ryan North to write a lot of text is probably still easier than doing it himself, though!
Needfuldoer
He should’ve just swiped paper out of a printer or Xerox machine in the library. (You gotta do what you gotta do when a ream of copy paper costs an entire day’s pay.)
Agemegos
First rule of exploiting an advantage: don’t blab!
Deanatay
Our chances of success are 100% as long as we don’t have to compete in the free marketplace!
Regalli
And with that, Joyce has well and truly taken the autobiographical character title from Walky, once and for all.
(Plot twist: She mentions it to both Ethan and Danny, who ALSO decide to throw their hats into the ring.)
Jon
Was going to say the same thing, it’s all come full circle!
Though I guess she’s had the anti-fundamentalist epiphany BEFORE the comic strip gig, so a little bit cart-before-the-horse but whatever.
emeraldbeacon
Just watch the two of them end up collaborating on a comic about everyday freshman college life. They could call the strip…
…Walky & Joyce?
Sirksome
Calloborate? And split the already insulting wage of 5 bucks a strip in half?!
Needfuldoer
Walky’s gonna have to settle on store brand Nachitos.
Sombrero
I guess the collaboration will go more in the direction of “Nightguy vs. Julia Gray: Dawn of Something or Other”
Callid13
Now I wonder, is this event auto-biographical? And if so, who is Willis? Joyce or Walky?
Newllend(henryvolt)
Chances are probably just two different aspects of Willis battling for Supremacy.
DailyBrad