I don’t think that’s a memory, personally, but it makes for interesting spec.
And yeah, that’s why I didn’t really want to go digging for it myself. :p I’ve reread the beginning parts of the strip recently, but not to that point.
CJ
I never thought about that before, but is there a connection between people thinking privacy overrated and fundamentalist Christians (who will not have any anyways after the return of Christ?)
CJ
Sorry, deleted cookies and made a typo in my email
I’m up to the start of Book 7 (the confrontation with “Ryan” at the Desanto rally”) on my re-read and let me tell you, you pick up a lot on your second, third, fourth, and twelfth times through. Especially if you read the comments.
Hana
It’s one comic after the one where Joyce talked about the time she fantasized about Harry Styles.
The color pink/purple is often associated with love/lust.
Joyce blushes, doesn’t seem upset, and then becomes upset. Seems like repressed sexuality+guilt to me, and a lot of other people agreed at the time.
“conceal, don’t feel” is extremely dark alt-text for that comic, if it means what you think it does.
I know Willis creates dark moments, but misrepresenting sexual abuse as lust to the audience seems beyond his usual bounds.
I acknowledge that you may be correct, but I think it is unlikely for a large number of presentational and meta-narrative reasons.
showler
If it weren’t a couple of years early I’d say she was fantasizing about David Tennant.
I actually think it’s pretty good, both even on it’s own, and then it has the added layer of being an in-comic reference. Overall a solid comment, A- out of five stars.
Seriously though, Joyce is the best person. She has plenty of reason not to forgive Sarah for manipulating her, but does so anyway. She’s too good. ;-;
I was thinking the sun was still out, but then I noticed that the room’s window shows that the light outside is…purple? Which I’m guessing is an artistic representation of just post-twilight, so, given the location and in-universe date, is maybe 7:30-ish?
But apart from Billie’s Forest Hall posse (and maybe not even them), no one knows where their Faz is. Where will he nest for the night? He appears to be functionally if not actually homeless.
Joyce knows Jacob was telling the truth, Sarah knows it, too, and she’s trying to give Sarah the chance to tell her, in her own words, what the deal is.
Whether she takes it or not, I dunno, though she did open up to Joyce some before, when they had the tearful embrace over how things would never be the same post-Toedad on Campus. She obviously has it within her capacity to be open, she just needs to demonstrate she can put herself out on a limb.
You know, I’m a little curious about that. Joe’s expressed some interest in Sarah in the past, but Sarah’s harder to figure out. She’s definitely been hostile to him, but she’s also seemed to revel in talking to someone who keeps all of their cards on the table.
thejeff
When has she reveled in talking to Joe?
Wasn’t long ago she yelled at him for talking to her.
Well this subject could turn contentious but for me its the idea that unchecked immigration is good.
In my country, NZ, we’ve had a lot of immigration over the last few years and the infrastructure is struggling to keep up as most of the immigrants end up in one city (Auckland) causing house prices to raise, schools to become over crowded etc etc
I’m pro-immigration but I agree with the political left in NZ that want to put a check on immigrant numbers, at least until the infrastructure catches up
That is pretty much opposite of the forgiveness rate of Sarah’s previous friendships, where she was completely written off, no forgiveness, labeled as irredeemably terrible, without any leeway allowed her at all. So, I think that this has the potential to really be good.
I’m impressed that shes managing to keep her general positivity and wanting to see the good in everyone while also becoming less naive, its good to see
Maybe it’s her steely resolve when looking out for those she cares about? “Badass” is perhaps the highest praise I know how to give a woman, and Joyce has a good bit of the badass in her.
Immigrants often move to be with their families, or otherwise into communities of their fellow expatriates, which buffers the language problem. If you leave China for a Chinatown where your uncle has a job for you, learning the local language may not the highest need for you — and may be hard to do, if you’re working 12 hours a day and surrounded by Chinese speakers.
I get trusting this comment section more than other parts of the internet, but if you’re just looking to discuss topics that are by nature controversial and also unrelated to the comic, keep in mind that you’re asking for more work from Willis than he may be onboard for.
137 thoughts on “Operate”
Pablo360
Sarah: “Well it’s a good thing you say that to me every night, otherwise that would sound ominous.”
Yumi
“I’m glad she says that to me all the time, or that would have sounded like veiled commentary.”
jeffepp
I’m still convinced that he’s the one in Joyce’s flashback.
Yumi
What flashback is that?
jeffepp
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/dark-room/
To me, that ain’t a good fantasy. It’s a bad memory.
Also, there’s almost 1K strips with Joyce in them. And this is roughly in the middle.
Yumi
I don’t think that’s a memory, personally, but it makes for interesting spec.
And yeah, that’s why I didn’t really want to go digging for it myself. :p I’ve reread the beginning parts of the strip recently, but not to that point.
CJ
I never thought about that before, but is there a connection between people thinking privacy overrated and fundamentalist Christians (who will not have any anyways after the return of Christ?)
CJ
Sorry, deleted cookies and made a typo in my email
Dark
Gods I really need to reread this comic someday.
Pablo360
I’m up to the start of Book 7 (the confrontation with “Ryan” at the Desanto rally”) on my re-read and let me tell you, you pick up a lot on your second, third, fourth, and twelfth times through. Especially if you read the comments.
Hana
It’s one comic after the one where Joyce talked about the time she fantasized about Harry Styles.
The color pink/purple is often associated with love/lust.
Joyce blushes, doesn’t seem upset, and then becomes upset. Seems like repressed sexuality+guilt to me, and a lot of other people agreed at the time.
“conceal, don’t feel” is extremely dark alt-text for that comic, if it means what you think it does.
I know Willis creates dark moments, but misrepresenting sexual abuse as lust to the audience seems beyond his usual bounds.
I acknowledge that you may be correct, but I think it is unlikely for a large number of presentational and meta-narrative reasons.
showler
If it weren’t a couple of years early I’d say she was fantasizing about David Tennant.
Pablo360
Pretty sure that’s not a flashback, it’s Joyce expressing about her Perverse Sexual Lust.
Nomothehomo
for a second i thought it was possible but then i got a pablo
Pablo360
And what’s worse is it’s not even one of my better comments.
Yumi
I actually think it’s pretty good, both even on it’s own, and then it has the added layer of being an in-comic reference. Overall a solid comment, A- out of five stars.
Yumi
Oops, I misremembered the exact comment I thought you were referencing back too. But still.
Pablo360
I was, I just got the reference wrong.
Yumi
Oh. Right on, then.
Mordecai
Joyce is precious
Schpoonman
I was gonna say, for all of Joyce’s flaws her capacity for forgiveness still makes her one of the best people in the cast.
Mordecai
Agreed
Reltzik
…. no one tell Ryan about this policy.
Schpoonman
Everyone has standards.
jeffepp
She wasn’t talking to HIM.
Stu
Agreed – Joyce is starting to embody the best parts of Christianity while realizing the worst parts.
butts
ooooooooooooooooh
you’ve got her by the guilt now, joyce
Passchendaele
Nope, not crying, that’s just dust in my eyes. ;-;
Passchendaele
Seriously though, Joyce is the best person. She has plenty of reason not to forgive Sarah for manipulating her, but does so anyway. She’s too good. ;-;
shadowcell
“so i was thinking of adding blue sprinkles to this cupcake–”
“NO FORGIVENESS”
Pablo360
Sarah: “I’m Andy Dick”
Joyce: “Never mind”
Some1
It’s 10 o’clock do you know where your Faz is?
Marsh Maryrose
I was thinking the sun was still out, but then I noticed that the room’s window shows that the light outside is…purple? Which I’m guessing is an artistic representation of just post-twilight, so, given the location and in-universe date, is maybe 7:30-ish?
But apart from Billie’s Forest Hall posse (and maybe not even them), no one knows where their Faz is. Where will he nest for the night? He appears to be functionally if not actually homeless.
thejeff
Not Joyce’s problem.
Untes
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/work-2/
Joe said to watch the kid. Joyce didn’t say no. Nor did she immediately pawn him off.
Kind of also Joyce’s problem.
Pablo360
Joyce didn’t say yes though?
Proto
I know Joyce didn’t mean to be, but that was pretty savage
Reltzik
Passive-aggressive holier-than-thou guilt trips are standard fare for her background.
Freezer
If Joyce is right and Joe was wrong, it’s just Joyce being a Good Christian™. If Joe’s telling the truth, it’s a guilt-seeking missile.
newllend(henryvolt)
Joyce is a good kid.
Stephen Bierce
*plays Don Henley’s “Heart of the Matter” on the hacked Muzak*
jeffepp
Even if
Even if
Rukdug
Right in the feels. Just punch us all right in the guts Joyce.
adjudicus
Well played, Joyce, well played. I can’t wait for tomorrow’s strip
Keulen
I wouldn’t be surprised if next strip cuts to a couple other characters, lforcing us to wait another day at least.
Raen
…Joyce probably thinks it’s the Jacob thing, which means it almost certainly isn’t.
DailyBrad
Joyce knows Jacob was telling the truth, Sarah knows it, too, and she’s trying to give Sarah the chance to tell her, in her own words, what the deal is.
Whether she takes it or not, I dunno, though she did open up to Joyce some before, when they had the tearful embrace over how things would never be the same post-Toedad on Campus. She obviously has it within her capacity to be open, she just needs to demonstrate she can put herself out on a limb.
Mr D
Joe. Jacob is the guy they wanna bang.
jeffepp
They both kinda want to bang Joe, as well.
DailyBrad
You know, I’m a little curious about that. Joe’s expressed some interest in Sarah in the past, but Sarah’s harder to figure out. She’s definitely been hostile to him, but she’s also seemed to revel in talking to someone who keeps all of their cards on the table.
thejeff
When has she reveled in talking to Joe?
Wasn’t long ago she yelled at him for talking to her.
DailyBrad
Joe, right. Sorry, long day.
Reltzik
Alt-text: Except for that. Not texting me to warn me about missing pizza day? That is the one thing I cannot forgive.
Mr D
THIS IS NOT AN INVITATION FOR SHITTY BEHAVIOR PLEASE.
Marsh Maryrose
Q: What day is Pizza Day?
A: Trick question, it is all of the days.
JessWitt
Friday, according to The Aquabats.
chris73
Well this subject could turn contentious but for me its the idea that unchecked immigration is good.
In my country, NZ, we’ve had a lot of immigration over the last few years and the infrastructure is struggling to keep up as most of the immigrants end up in one city (Auckland) causing house prices to raise, schools to become over crowded etc etc
I’m pro-immigration but I agree with the political left in NZ that want to put a check on immigrant numbers, at least until the infrastructure catches up
No Name
Whoa, whoa, whoa, in New Zealand, the LEFT is against immigration? HOw does that work?
Larkle
That is pretty much opposite of the forgiveness rate of Sarah’s previous friendships, where she was completely written off, no forgiveness, labeled as irredeemably terrible, without any leeway allowed her at all. So, I think that this has the potential to really be good.
Reltzik
Or the potential to not be believed at all.
Laladoria
Joyce is such a sweet kid. I love her so much and I usually dont care for the super nice innocent ones. I hope things go well for her from here on out
chris73
I’m impressed that shes managing to keep her general positivity and wanting to see the good in everyone while also becoming less naive, its good to see
Dana
Maybe it’s her steely resolve when looking out for those she cares about? “Badass” is perhaps the highest praise I know how to give a woman, and Joyce has a good bit of the badass in her.
drs
Immigrants often move to be with their families, or otherwise into communities of their fellow expatriates, which buffers the language problem. If you leave China for a Chinatown where your uncle has a job for you, learning the local language may not the highest need for you — and may be hard to do, if you’re working 12 hours a day and surrounded by Chinese speakers.
Vinny
“LEARN THE LENGUAGE FIRST. ”
I believe the word you’re looking for here is, “LANGUAGE”.
Mr D
D’oh!
Marsh Maryrose
I Have Thoughts on this subject, and your example, but…
How does this topic relate to this particular strip? How does it relate to DoA in general?
If you feel the need to express your opinions on this topic, aren’t there forums and/or subreddits that would be more appropriate?
Mr D
Well, I respect the opinion of the people in this comment section, and I know that if shit gets outta hand Willis will shut down the whole thing.
Yumi
I get trusting this comment section more than other parts of the internet, but if you’re just looking to discuss topics that are by nature controversial and also unrelated to the comic, keep in mind that you’re asking for more work from Willis than he may be onboard for.
JessWitt
Well Joyce opened herself up to believing what Joe said about Sarah.
And Dorothy still never found out about her trying to change Ethan? Huh makes sense.
toby