Reminds me of this anime I watched a while back called “I’ll Become a Villainess Who Goes Down in History”, yeah it’s an isekai but it was fun watching her justify all the good things she’s doing as being villainous.
Chris Phoenix
You may enjoy “Only Villains Do That” on Royal Road (in progress, but many amusing chapters).
I usually follow your perspective just fine Dot, but here I’m lost. Raidah seems so relentlessly negative, and mostly a pile of resentment and scheming. She seems like a toxic person to avoid, so what am I missing?
Dot
She’s obviously got hidden depths to draw out and the fact that she’s (badly) trying to justify this good deed as part of her masterful manipulations is adorable
Big Z
I mean, it DOES kinda work out exactly how she’d have wanted it to work if she’d planned it as a master manipulation, even if she only did it because she was asked to help by Thing 2.
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
Raidah was a big part of Dorothy questioning her faith in institutions and desire to be president, for one.
Thag Simmons
I mean, Dorothy definitely needed that wake-up call about what her ambitions would actually ask of her but Raidah did not appear to be doing that for reasons that weren’t full of toxic resentment.
Shade
Doesn’t mean she can’t be grateful.
Thag Simmons
It absolutely doesn’t, but it’s still an instance of Raidah being resentful and scheming and generally toxic, even if Dorothy ultimately benefited from that specific instance of toxicity.
Ovan-Creator
Considering what happens to Dorothy in It’s Walky, she needed that wake-up call. That version of her failed to get into high office, and it went downhill from there.
Incredibly common demagogic tactic though.
Wether the socialist dictatorships of the eastern bloc, the messianic religious movements … or simply someone like Musk?
Pretending to want to do good, save the world and claiming to make peoples lives easier is the most basic grift of all.
What Raidah practices here is the fundamental politics of manipulative power – making others believe you are on their side, want to help them – but largely to further your own goals.
Dandi_Andi
When has a Raidah ever made Dorothy think that she was on her side? Send to me like she’s being very explicit about what she’s getting out of this.
Zero
I’m not sure who she’s arguing with, given that Dorothy said she knows Raidah wasn’t inclined to help her. She’s agreeing with her argumentatively.
Dot
I think you meant to put this reply somewhere else.
But as Raidah points out, that “something nice” does wind up with a former Congressmember owing her a favor, as well as (she thinks) making Sarah’s friend-group think less of her because Sarah couldn’t help here. (That part won’t work, of course, because for most people friendship doesn’t have to be transactional, but that doesn’t seem to be the way Raidah thinks.) Sounds to me more like she’s mocking the idea that she was helping anyone but herself here.
zee
It feels more like she’s trying to convince herself she’s mocking the idea of helping anyone here. It’s the look on her face, it’s giving denial
Dot
100%
Shade
Right is not smug or otherwise showing some kind of satisfaction for how everything is coming together. She’s clearly bothered by the implication.
Yeah when i say i think tsuderes are funny i always am referring to the that second kind. First one is just kinda bad, and when it’s someone treating you like shit being into, it’s the fantasy of someone who repeatedly reject you being into because yiu can’t take no gor an answer.
I honestly still don’t see the current Asher as a malicious conniving antagonist who’s lying in wait, if there’s any danger with him it’s because of a storm cloud of trouble from his past that he’s trying to convince himself he’s left behind that he knows fully well that he hasn’t.
Raidah on the other hand I do see being more malicious but I’ve yet to see her have any REAL leverage to harm the people she’s decided to have animosity with.
Asher has mob family ties; and the meme of “just when I think I’m out, they pull me back” might be the big issue goin forward. Him havin to use a mob doctor also kinda puts him in a spot where that might come back to bite him and the others in the ass later on.
I joke mostly about Raidah. In spite of all her piss and vinegar, she actually hasn’t done anything really harmful, outside of some weirdly homophobic leaning stuff to Joyce. But I think that may have been more of her trying to shame Joyce or get her to feel bad about her future, rather than actually harm her.
Nono
It’s less that Asher has mob family ties because otherwise we also have Amber and Faz. It’s that Asher was (at least up til fairly recently) USING said mob family ties, though he may at least have been partially coerced to do so.
I do believe that Asher is trying to be on the straight and narrow, circumstances just keep making him make use of those resources. It’s not like he could have said ‘okay there’s a dying person here but I want to be honest so I’m not going to call in my mob doctor connections’.
This is a fun dynamic, Raidah is shutting down any inclination that the two of them were true Allies at any point, as she should. “Don’t get it twisted, I did this for me and me alone. I have no intention of being your friend.
I get it though, their interest aligned for a moment and that’s it.
He was a physicist changed the course of educational institutions forever by inventing degrees.
Even today you can here physicists talking in their sleep about degrees Keven.
True Survivor
I hate you. That was beautiful.
ZombieKyrik
I don’t get it; can you explain?
Clif
The joke is that they mispronounce his name as Kelvin.
ZombieKyrik
Ah, thank you. That should have been obvious, but my brain is fried at the moment. I have a hard time understanding jokes when I’m mentally exhausted.
Jeff K!
I was also trying to work in “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon” to my interpretation of the joke, because my brain processed it as more complicated than it was.
264 thoughts on “Inclination”
QueenofSodor
i-it’s not like i wanted to help you or anything, b-baka!
Clif
Well someone had to say it.
Tequila Mockingbird
my thoughts exactly.
NGPZ
“YOU’RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ME!”
V
girl help
Dot
Loooove her
Dot
“Yeah doing this decent thing for other people who are fighting for a cause I believe in is uuuhhh all part of my supervillain plot” she’s so silly
Rosicrucian
Whoever cracks this nut is gonna find something gooey.
NGPZ
I mean what you expect
to make some chocolate happen ya gotta break a few nuts
XD
Dot
Need Walky to get on that shit
Rosicrucian
It takes time for him to determine the right trajectory to yeet a toy at her head.
Bryy
Yeah she’s such a bad villain.
apocryphascribe
She’s so bad at this, I love it.
Shade
Reminds me of this anime I watched a while back called “I’ll Become a Villainess Who Goes Down in History”, yeah it’s an isekai but it was fun watching her justify all the good things she’s doing as being villainous.
Chris Phoenix
You may enjoy “Only Villains Do That” on Royal Road (in progress, but many amusing chapters).
Adept
I usually follow your perspective just fine Dot, but here I’m lost. Raidah seems so relentlessly negative, and mostly a pile of resentment and scheming. She seems like a toxic person to avoid, so what am I missing?
Dot
She’s obviously got hidden depths to draw out and the fact that she’s (badly) trying to justify this good deed as part of her masterful manipulations is adorable
Big Z
I mean, it DOES kinda work out exactly how she’d have wanted it to work if she’d planned it as a master manipulation, even if she only did it because she was asked to help by Thing 2.
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
Raidah was a big part of Dorothy questioning her faith in institutions and desire to be president, for one.
Thag Simmons
I mean, Dorothy definitely needed that wake-up call about what her ambitions would actually ask of her but Raidah did not appear to be doing that for reasons that weren’t full of toxic resentment.
Shade
Doesn’t mean she can’t be grateful.
Thag Simmons
It absolutely doesn’t, but it’s still an instance of Raidah being resentful and scheming and generally toxic, even if Dorothy ultimately benefited from that specific instance of toxicity.
Ovan-Creator
Considering what happens to Dorothy in It’s Walky, she needed that wake-up call. That version of her failed to get into high office, and it went downhill from there.
ResRam
Incredibly common demagogic tactic though.
Wether the socialist dictatorships of the eastern bloc, the messianic religious movements … or simply someone like Musk?
Pretending to want to do good, save the world and claiming to make peoples lives easier is the most basic grift of all.
What Raidah practices here is the fundamental politics of manipulative power – making others believe you are on their side, want to help them – but largely to further your own goals.
Dandi_Andi
When has a Raidah ever made Dorothy think that she was on her side? Send to me like she’s being very explicit about what she’s getting out of this.
Zero
I’m not sure who she’s arguing with, given that Dorothy said she knows Raidah wasn’t inclined to help her. She’s agreeing with her argumentatively.
Dot
I think you meant to put this reply somewhere else.
zee
Yeah that last panel is absolutely reading like cope to me lol. Sure girl, you totally didn’t just go something nice. Keep huffing that copium
Jon
But as Raidah points out, that “something nice” does wind up with a former Congressmember owing her a favor, as well as (she thinks) making Sarah’s friend-group think less of her because Sarah couldn’t help here. (That part won’t work, of course, because for most people friendship doesn’t have to be transactional, but that doesn’t seem to be the way Raidah thinks.) Sounds to me more like she’s mocking the idea that she was helping anyone but herself here.
zee
It feels more like she’s trying to convince herself she’s mocking the idea of helping anyone here. It’s the look on her face, it’s giving denial
Dot
100%
Shade
Right is not smug or otherwise showing some kind of satisfaction for how everything is coming together. She’s clearly bothered by the implication.
BarerMender
Also, no way does she have Robin in her pocket. If it comes to manipulation, Robin will eat her alive.
ZombieKyrik
Is Raidah tsundere? Another good reason to not like her.
I can’t stand tsundere people/characters, and I don’t know what makes them appealing to others.
Pocky
Nah, think that’s Sarah’s thing. Which tbf, I think a few of the tough gals in this comic get flustered by affection lol
Nono
No that’s Ruth’s thing. Sarah runs on apathy, not spite.
nadamás
It just funny to see someone trying and very badly failing to pretend they don’t like someone.
Armadillo
It mostly started from the sad desperate hope that the person who treats you like shit is actually secretly into you.
Though these days the archetype is more about people being hilariously bad at being honest about their feelings.
nadamás
Yeah when i say i think tsuderes are funny i always am referring to the that second kind. First one is just kinda bad, and when it’s someone treating you like shit being into, it’s the fantasy of someone who repeatedly reject you being into because yiu can’t take no gor an answer.
mindbleach
She’s a narcissist. Everything is transactional, egocentric, and obsessed with control.
Wraithy2773
Girl needs a lot more dere to go with all that tsun.
zee
Weak, tsundere supremacy. Inject that gap moe directly into my veins
Morhek
“Yes, my eeeevil plan to…bail out queer protestors after they opposed a fascist genocide…SUCCEEDED!”
Somewhere, Galasso is shaking his head at the amateur hour on display.
RassilonTDavros
“You’re kinda new to evil, ain’tcha.”
(not a raidah strip but i’ll gladly take any opportunityo to link one of the all-time greats of doa)
RassilonTDavros
dammit fucked up the html
True Survivor
The link worked for me. Also, kudos in recalling this strip. That is quite a memory you have.
Tequila Mockingbird
Ah! A capital callback. Well played, comrade.
C.T Phipps
Raidah seems to think she’s a supervillain but she’s actually just upset at all the crap she takes as a educated brown woman.
So she embraced being the Mastermind.
https://youtu.be/Tmz1lz0zcLQ?list=RDTmz1lz0zcLQ
justin8448
In my head I immediately assumed that was a link to a clip from the movie “Megamind,” with it’s villain-to-hero arc.
Instead I got to hear a new-to-me Taylor Swift song.
C.T Phipps
Hahah!
🙂
anon
tbf i don’t think raidah would’ve agreed if they were trying to bail out someone pro facist
The Rev
How many chapters before Raidah is added to the polycule.
Disastroid
She lies there, naked, panting, sandwiched between Joyce and Dorothy, clinging to her last ounce of consciousness and smiling. “Sarah could never.”
Tequila Mockingbird
Hell, I’d read that fanfic.
Airyu
I genuinely laughed so hard i gave myself a stomach ache, amazing comment a+++
Pocky
honestly it may be more dangerous to owe Raidah a favor than Asher at this point lol
Newlland(Henryvolt)
I honestly still don’t see the current Asher as a malicious conniving antagonist who’s lying in wait, if there’s any danger with him it’s because of a storm cloud of trouble from his past that he’s trying to convince himself he’s left behind that he knows fully well that he hasn’t.
Raidah on the other hand I do see being more malicious but I’ve yet to see her have any REAL leverage to harm the people she’s decided to have animosity with.
Pocky
Asher has mob family ties; and the meme of “just when I think I’m out, they pull me back” might be the big issue goin forward. Him havin to use a mob doctor also kinda puts him in a spot where that might come back to bite him and the others in the ass later on.
I joke mostly about Raidah. In spite of all her piss and vinegar, she actually hasn’t done anything really harmful, outside of some weirdly homophobic leaning stuff to Joyce. But I think that may have been more of her trying to shame Joyce or get her to feel bad about her future, rather than actually harm her.
Nono
It’s less that Asher has mob family ties because otherwise we also have Amber and Faz. It’s that Asher was (at least up til fairly recently) USING said mob family ties, though he may at least have been partially coerced to do so.
I do believe that Asher is trying to be on the straight and narrow, circumstances just keep making him make use of those resources. It’s not like he could have said ‘okay there’s a dying person here but I want to be honest so I’m not going to call in my mob doctor connections’.
Newlland(Henryvolt)
This is a fun dynamic, Raidah is shutting down any inclination that the two of them were true Allies at any point, as she should. “Don’t get it twisted, I did this for me and me alone. I have no intention of being your friend.
I get it though, their interest aligned for a moment and that’s it.
C.T Phipps
Raidah is kind of a Mike variant.
She thinks she’s hard but she’s just soft.
Armadillo
Nah. Mike knew exactly how soft he really was. It’s how he was able to so disturbingly easily commit to dying for the people he cared about.
nadamás
She is Trying to shutdown any inclination of that. She is not particularly succeeding.
Taffy
She’ll be fucking Kevin within the hour.
ZombieKyrik
Who is Kevin?
Clif
He was a physicist changed the course of educational institutions forever by inventing degrees.
Even today you can here physicists talking in their sleep about degrees Keven.
True Survivor
I hate you. That was beautiful.
ZombieKyrik
I don’t get it; can you explain?
Clif
The joke is that they mispronounce his name as Kelvin.
ZombieKyrik
Ah, thank you. That should have been obvious, but my brain is fried at the moment. I have a hard time understanding jokes when I’m mentally exhausted.
Jeff K!
I was also trying to work in “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon” to my interpretation of the joke, because my brain processed it as more complicated than it was.
Nymph
6 degrees of Kelvin Bacon