Joyce has the dubiousgreat honor of having the best facial expressions in the comic.
And I don’t know, but goddamn Walky is into it. His expression doesn’t budge an inch and I have the feeling that line hit Dorothy hard. I just have so many emotions about these kids.
ShinyNeen
They’re doing so good and they’re doing so bad but also good and also bad aaaargh yes I know what you mean
“Joyce…I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe…uncircumcised penes in the dorm showers of IU…I watched Dexter and Monkey Master in the dark when the power transformer blew out…all those moments will be lost in time…like last night’s pizza…time for class.”
*The fabric of the space-time continuum begins to tear*
Needfuldoer
*Soggies-Apocalypse-Shortpacked versions of Galasso, Becky, Dina, and Ultra-Car fall out of one tear, take one look in her direction, then nope right out through a different tear*
Passchendaele
*class is five minutes late today*
Crusading Barista
*a strange, silent pause. And everything goes back in time to the moment of Joyce’s smoking ear.*
When I was a freshman at the now-demolished Basser College I had the room next to the bathroom. Basser was a real dump with thin walls, and there was a couple who used to bang in shower about in the small hours of the morning about two or three times per week.
I’d say it was a low blow by Walky, and it is, but then again, she kinda walked herself right into that one. There’s a friend tone and a girlfriend tone, and she’s lost access to the latter.
She obviously uses “you’re better than this” with friends, too, because she told Joyce that a few strips ago.
What I don’t get is why she’s saying it to him at all, she knows that’s just how the two of them are together. Despite it all, they care about each other in a kind of “annoying sibling” way. At least in this universe.
It’s understandable that Walky would feel a bit testy about her scolding him so soon after they broke up, but saying “she’s lost access to that” is absurd. We’ve literally JUST watched her use that tone with Joyce.
The dynamic between them will no doubt change a bit before all the dust settles, but right now the issue is that there’s still hurt from the break up that needs time and space to heal
If you chose to break up with me because of time management, gave me false hope, then you don’t get the pass to tell me to do anything. You sure as hell don’t get to decide “just being friends” shouldn’t be lesser
“She dumped him for reasons I don’t like” is a shitty thing to hold against her. “Not doing anything wrong” does not entitle you to a relationship, even if you’re already in one. If either person feels that ending the relationship is best for them for any reason, then they have absolutely every right to do that, even though it may be painful for the other person. A relationship does not grant you ownership of a person.
She didn’t give him false hope. She believed that just taking a break would be enough, but unfortunately it wasn’t. Blaming her for trying to find away around breaking up with him because she failed is childish.
He has every right to feel hurt or even a bit angry regardless of Dorothy’s attempts to soften the blow, and for him to be irritable with Dorothy for a while.
She’s still 100% right that being friends should not be seen as something lesser. Sure, that sounds a bit like she’s saying Walky shouldn’t feel hurt about being dumped, but she’s directing that AT JOYCE. It just happens to also apply to Walky.
And finally, Walky jumped into her conversation with Joyce and started teasing her. She may have chosen the worst tone for it, but she has every right to ask Walky to stop, regardless of their current relationship status. Or do you think that if Joe or some complete stranger was teasing Joyce, Dorothy has no right to say anything?
And again, of course Walky has every right to feel hurt, and to establish some new boundaries (temporary or permanent) for this new phase of their relationship, but Dorothy didn’t wrong him. She doesn’t deserve his animosity for this any more than Joyce does.
ego
no, i think you’ve missed it.
dorothy has demonstrated that she has, generously, a pretty inexact command of how she should be managing her own shit. a little less you talk, a little more you listen, dot.
Fart Captor: If I remember correctly, Dorothy “took a break” from dating Walky–meaning “I’m not dating you now, but if you put your life on hold and wait for me I might date you again later”, then continued sleeping with him a few times, then broke up with him because she needed more time for her extra-credit projects.
I don’t think any of us were suggesting that Walky is “owed” a relationship by Dorothy or that he “owns” her. It’s clear to me that they in fact should not be together.
However, I posit the following:
* Dorothy does not get to decide for Walky whether friendship is a lesser relationship than romantic partnership
* My personal veiw is that friendship is lesser than romantic partnership, so I can understand if Walky feels that way, although it’s not yet clear whether he does
* “Taking a break” is a super shitty way to treat someone
* Continuing to sleep with them while “on a break” is even shittier
* Extra-credit projects should not be more important than a relationship
* A perfect GPA should not be more important than a relationship
* If they are, then you have told your partner how much you value them, and that is not very much
* Although you have the right to break up with a partner at any time, time management IS a shitty reason to do so, particularly without discussing alternatives with your partner first
* Once you break up with someone, you do not get to police their behaviour
* If you decide to do so anyway, you should probably accept the risk that they are not going to like that
Yeah, sure, if a stranger were “teasing” Joyce (and I think what Walky is doing here is more like “criticising” or “sniping at”), Dorothy would have the right to say something. She has the right to say something here. That is how conversations work.
Walky has an equal right to tell her he doesn’t accept her standing to criticise him and that he is going to continue to behave toward Joyce however he wants. Joyce is the one who ultimately has to make the decision about whether she’s willing to accept that from Walky.
– People in relationships taking a break is a thing that happens. Sometimes it’s a precursor to a breakup, but not always. There’s nothing inherently shitty about it.
– She acknowledged after they had sex that it wasn’t fair to him. That’s WHY SHE BROKE IT OFF.
I will say this again and again until I stop needing to say:
– YOUR PRIORITIES REGARDING RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT UNIVERSAL, OR SOME KIND OF OBJECTIVE MORAL ABSOLUTE. There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with Dorothy prioritizing her long-term ambitions.
-More importantly, if someone no longer wants to be in relationship, that is reason enough to end the relationship. There is no morally wrong reason to end it. Insisting that certain reasons are wrong is the kind of harmful bullshit that helps make people feel trapped in relationships they’re no longer happy in because the none of “approved” escape conditions have been met.
– She is deciding NOTHING for Walky about whether friendships shouldn’t be lesser than romantic relationships. She’s making a general fucking statement, and she’s goddamn right about it. It’s more directly relevant to Joyce’s current situation (which is who she addressed the statement to anyway), but it’s still true in general.
Romantic relationships are great. So are friendships. If you go looking for love and find friendship instead, that’s a pretty fucking awesome consolation prize. Dwelling on how it’s not the thing you wanted isn’t doing yourself any favors.
Finding a friendship where love used to be is hard (which is why I would hope she would’ve worded it differently if she’d actually been addressing Walky), and sometimes the heartbreak makes it too hard, but the principal stands. If friendship with your ex is possible, that’s not something to sneer at.
LovelyMonsters
Whoah there, Captain Boldtext, if you’d read my reply a little more carefully instead of formatting your html for maximum consdescension, you would have noticed that I was careful to say “My personal veiw [sic] is that friendship is lesser than romantic partnership”, and I phrased it that way because I’m aware that this is neither a universal nor objective. I know lots of people who feel the same way you do. I know lots of people who feel the same way I do. I don’t think we’ve been given enough information about Walky’s view, if any, on the subject to know where he stands.
And yes, Dorothy was making a “general fucking statement”. Claiming that “she is goddamn right about it”, however, is hypocritically imposing your (subjective and non-absolute) opinion about relationships on everyone. If that is what you and Dorothy think, that’s fine. But your priorities regarding relationships are not universal, or some kind of objective moral absolute.
Whether Dorothy was aiming that comment at Walky is unclear, and although she definitely had him in mind when she said it, it reads to me more as though she is trying to convince herself of it more than anyone else. Regardless, saying it in Walky’s hearing was tactless and tasteless, and if Walky feels that his behaviour or outlook are being dictated to him by the time she gets around to “You’re better than that”, I could understand that, even if he is not correct.
I continue to disagree that taking a break from relationships is not inherently shitty. I continue to disagree–again, on an entirely personal level–that friendship is not “less” than romantic partnership.
Finally, while there is no morally wrong reason to end a relationship (there doesn’t have to be a reason, per se, at all), the absolute and unassailable right to make decisions about how your life is going to go does not guarantee that you’re not going to totally screw the pooch sometimes. I continue to think Dorothy’s decision to break up with Walky–given that she a) did not discuss her academic “problems” with him and approach the situation as a team; b) seems to be concerned about extra credit and a perfect GPA, neither of which will necessarily affect her long-term priorities anyway; and c) seems genuinely to love Walky and love being in a relationship with him–was a poor choice based on stupid reasons. A stranger yelling at me on the Internet about these topics has done little to change my views.
thejeff
Not to address most of that, but Dorothy and Walky very much did discuss her academic problems and had started to try to approach them together. Which had led Walky, on his own, to think he was going to have to break up with her, so she wouldn’t be distracted.
That’s the thing. Dorothy and Walky are not friends right now. Walky’s feelings are so messed up that he doesn’t even want to be in the same room as her.
So she can’t use her girlfriend tone or he friend tone with him because she’s neither.
Maybe once things have settled, but right now she can’t use a reasonable tone of voice to talk Walky down from doing something he wants to do, which is pick with Joyce.
She kinda did lose access to it, though. In regards to him, at least. A not insignificant part of their relationship was her holding him to a higher standard than he held himself with the implicit (and possibly explicit? I dont remember for sure) threat of breakup if he didn’t meet those standards. So for her to try saying “Hey, hold yourself to a higher standard” is kinda similar to her booty calling him. It’s a relationship perk she’s trying to hold onto despite being the one to say they can’t have a relationship.
George
Ayuupp. After that stunt she pulled with his pajama pants, she kinda had this coming.
Reltzik
And also, the whole point of the breakup was because Dorothy thought it would be best to limit access.
The point was that she didn’t have the time or emotional energy for a relationship. Breaking up was obviously going to mean they’d spend less time together, but it’s not going to magically change their class schedules or disentangle their social circles. So even if she didn’t still want to be friends, they’d still HAVE to see each other.
Her tone may have been wrong, but she had every right to scold him for teasing her friend
thejeff
And he’s got every right to respond.
Firestk
Sorry but (from my perspective) you’re straining too hard in identifying with Dorothy. She’s been so wrapped up in her relationship and everything else I don’t think she and by extension, you actually noticed the adversarial friendship between Joyce and Walky. Otherwise you might have noticed this is business as usual with a new subject, Joyce confusing “true love” with old fashioned freshman horniness. This is how they are.
And seriously you can’t rule out the possibility of this being the Walky version of calling her out on shitty behavior that we already know Dot isn’t the only one to notice.
I don’t know. There’s something really nasty about replying to “Hey, quit picking on my friend,” with, “Nah, I’m only invested in your opinion when you’re dating me.” …Ugh, I’m not wording this right. I mean, on one level, yes, after a breakup, it’s perfectly okay (and usually healthy!) to stop investing in your ex’s opinion. But making a point of flaunting your newfound lack of regard for your ex *to their face*, especially when all they’re asking is for you to stop antagonizing their friend, is… less so.
302 thoughts on “Harassing”
Ana Chronistic
“yeah, his epidermis was showing”
*sexy shower elbows*
Ana Chronistic
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/snipped-2/ btw
Pablo360
Thank you, I think
uze
btw it’s impressive how much the art has improved in the past 8 years!
Tarpo
Doing the lords work
Gandalf007
He couldn’t help but note his shade of melanin.
Captainfenris
Oh, hey, I understand that reference. I. . .listened to that tape a lot as a child.
Doctor_Who
10% Anger
20% Shock
30% Embarrassment
40% Jealousy
100% Joyce
Keulen
And 100% reason to remember the name
Lokitsu
You forgot 30% aroused.
ShinyNeen
I wonder what Walky and Amber are texting about right now.
ShinyNeen
And, yay! Panel 4 Joyce is juuust high enough resolution to look crisp as an avatar on this website! Was worried she would be too tiny.
Schpoonman
Joyce has the
dubiousgreat honor of having the best facial expressions in the comic.And I don’t know, but goddamn Walky is into it. His expression doesn’t budge an inch and I have the feeling that line hit Dorothy hard. I just have so many emotions about these kids.
ShinyNeen
They’re doing so good and they’re doing so bad but also good and also bad aaaargh yes I know what you mean
Inahc
Yeah. This.
Delavan
So…. uh…. college?
CleverTrousers
Didn’t that dude have a torso or something we could check against?
CleverTrousers
I’m probably thinking of one of the Joyce shower scripts but Walky’s put on four or five inches since 2010.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/snipped-2/
King Daniel
More like all the characters’ heads were a lot bigger back then.
Regalli
Seriously Joyce repressing this shit Is Not Working and you know it.
King Daniel
Nah. This is peak flustered-Joyce™.
MM
She’s not completely red yet.
Reltzik
Not yet. She still has conscious motor control over her mouth.
shadowcell
Dumbing of Age, Book 8: I’ve Seen His Weenus
King Daniel
“Joyce…I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe…uncircumcised penes in the dorm showers of IU…I watched Dexter and Monkey Master in the dark when the power transformer blew out…all those moments will be lost in time…like last night’s pizza…time for class.”
Clif
Applause.
3oranges
Dumbing of Age, Book 8: Walky, C’mon, You’re Better Than This
Passchendaele
*smoke erupts out of Joyce’s ears*
Doctor_Who
*high pitched sound like a tea kettle*
Passchendaele
*Dorothy’s glasses shatter*
*Walky’s phone screen cracks*
Tacos
*The fabric of the space-time continuum begins to tear*
Needfuldoer
*Soggies-Apocalypse-Shortpacked versions of Galasso, Becky, Dina, and Ultra-Car fall out of one tear, take one look in her direction, then nope right out through a different tear*
Passchendaele
*class is five minutes late today*
Crusading Barista
*a strange, silent pause. And everything goes back in time to the moment of Joyce’s smoking ear.*
MM
Anyone else you want to try “you’re better than this” on today, Dorothy? How about Mike?
TemporalShrew
Okay but least her two previous targets are fundamentally decent people.
If she’s gonna go at Mike, she might as well just track down Toe Dad and try him.
Lone Duck
“Galasso serves no man!”
“C’mon Galasso, you’re better than this”
Regalli
Galasso serves pizzas, and looks on this strange new cookbook with confusion and rage.
Ana Chronistic
doesn’t Becky serve the pizzas tho
Reltzik
“I am no man!”
“…. what?”
“I’m a woman.”
“….. Galasso absolutely understands that word you just used.”
Fart Captor
Mike is objectively NOT better than this or most things
Stephen Bierce
Every day
Every night time I find
Mystery Achievement, you’re on my mind (On my mind!)
On my mind!
Stephen Bierce
BTW, my ads for this page are for a maker of “industrial elastomers”. You know. To limit the “wear and tear”.
A 3M Company
CleverTrousers
Y’know, in retrospect, it is weird how many people were having sex in the shower stalls next to me my Freshman years.
Idk, if you need an inspiration for the Walky x Jacob pornocomic of 2029.
King Daniel
2029? So, in-universe, about six to eight weeks from now?
Agemegos
When I was a freshman at the now-demolished Basser College I had the room next to the bathroom. Basser was a real dump with thin walls, and there was a couple who used to bang in shower about in the small hours of the morning about two or three times per week.
Stu
So… who needs the aloe vera for that burn? Because Joyce looks a LOT more red than Dorothy does.
Agemegos
Don’t tease, Walky! Give us a review.
DailyBrad
I’d say it was a low blow by Walky, and it is, but then again, she kinda walked herself right into that one. There’s a friend tone and a girlfriend tone, and she’s lost access to the latter.
laladoria
She obviously uses “you’re better than this” with friends, too, because she told Joyce that a few strips ago.
What I don’t get is why she’s saying it to him at all, she knows that’s just how the two of them are together. Despite it all, they care about each other in a kind of “annoying sibling” way. At least in this universe.
TemporalShrew
I think Dorothy might be stuck in “mom mode” at the moment, or something.
Fart Captor
It’s understandable that Walky would feel a bit testy about her scolding him so soon after they broke up, but saying “she’s lost access to that” is absurd. We’ve literally JUST watched her use that tone with Joyce.
The dynamic between them will no doubt change a bit before all the dust settles, but right now the issue is that there’s still hurt from the break up that needs time and space to heal
Saaaam
If you chose to break up with me because of time management, gave me false hope, then you don’t get the pass to tell me to do anything. You sure as hell don’t get to decide “just being friends” shouldn’t be lesser
LovelyMonsters
Preach.
James Rye
Amen to that!
foxy
Exactly.
Fart Captor
That’s a fucked up attitude, man.
“She dumped him for reasons I don’t like” is a shitty thing to hold against her. “Not doing anything wrong” does not entitle you to a relationship, even if you’re already in one. If either person feels that ending the relationship is best for them for any reason, then they have absolutely every right to do that, even though it may be painful for the other person. A relationship does not grant you ownership of a person.
She didn’t give him false hope. She believed that just taking a break would be enough, but unfortunately it wasn’t. Blaming her for trying to find away around breaking up with him because she failed is childish.
He has every right to feel hurt or even a bit angry regardless of Dorothy’s attempts to soften the blow, and for him to be irritable with Dorothy for a while.
She’s still 100% right that being friends should not be seen as something lesser. Sure, that sounds a bit like she’s saying Walky shouldn’t feel hurt about being dumped, but she’s directing that AT JOYCE. It just happens to also apply to Walky.
And finally, Walky jumped into her conversation with Joyce and started teasing her. She may have chosen the worst tone for it, but she has every right to ask Walky to stop, regardless of their current relationship status. Or do you think that if Joe or some complete stranger was teasing Joyce, Dorothy has no right to say anything?
And again, of course Walky has every right to feel hurt, and to establish some new boundaries (temporary or permanent) for this new phase of their relationship, but Dorothy didn’t wrong him. She doesn’t deserve his animosity for this any more than Joyce does.
ego
no, i think you’ve missed it.
dorothy has demonstrated that she has, generously, a pretty inexact command of how she should be managing her own shit. a little less you talk, a little more you listen, dot.
Fart Captor
What does this even mean
LovelyMonsters
Fart Captor: If I remember correctly, Dorothy “took a break” from dating Walky–meaning “I’m not dating you now, but if you put your life on hold and wait for me I might date you again later”, then continued sleeping with him a few times, then broke up with him because she needed more time for her extra-credit projects.
I don’t think any of us were suggesting that Walky is “owed” a relationship by Dorothy or that he “owns” her. It’s clear to me that they in fact should not be together.
However, I posit the following:
* Dorothy does not get to decide for Walky whether friendship is a lesser relationship than romantic partnership
* My personal veiw is that friendship is lesser than romantic partnership, so I can understand if Walky feels that way, although it’s not yet clear whether he does
* “Taking a break” is a super shitty way to treat someone
* Continuing to sleep with them while “on a break” is even shittier
* Extra-credit projects should not be more important than a relationship
* A perfect GPA should not be more important than a relationship
* If they are, then you have told your partner how much you value them, and that is not very much
* Although you have the right to break up with a partner at any time, time management IS a shitty reason to do so, particularly without discussing alternatives with your partner first
* Once you break up with someone, you do not get to police their behaviour
* If you decide to do so anyway, you should probably accept the risk that they are not going to like that
Yeah, sure, if a stranger were “teasing” Joyce (and I think what Walky is doing here is more like “criticising” or “sniping at”), Dorothy would have the right to say something. She has the right to say something here. That is how conversations work.
Walky has an equal right to tell her he doesn’t accept her standing to criticise him and that he is going to continue to behave toward Joyce however he wants. Joyce is the one who ultimately has to make the decision about whether she’s willing to accept that from Walky.
Fart Captor
– People in relationships taking a break is a thing that happens. Sometimes it’s a precursor to a breakup, but not always. There’s nothing inherently shitty about it.
– She acknowledged after they had sex that it wasn’t fair to him. That’s WHY SHE BROKE IT OFF.
I will say this again and again until I stop needing to say:
– YOUR PRIORITIES REGARDING RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT UNIVERSAL, OR SOME KIND OF OBJECTIVE MORAL ABSOLUTE. There is absolutely nothing morally wrong with Dorothy prioritizing her long-term ambitions.
-More importantly, if someone no longer wants to be in relationship, that is reason enough to end the relationship. There is no morally wrong reason to end it. Insisting that certain reasons are wrong is the kind of harmful bullshit that helps make people feel trapped in relationships they’re no longer happy in because the none of “approved” escape conditions have been met.
– She is deciding NOTHING for Walky about whether friendships shouldn’t be lesser than romantic relationships. She’s making a general fucking statement, and she’s goddamn right about it. It’s more directly relevant to Joyce’s current situation (which is who she addressed the statement to anyway), but it’s still true in general.
Romantic relationships are great. So are friendships. If you go looking for love and find friendship instead, that’s a pretty fucking awesome consolation prize. Dwelling on how it’s not the thing you wanted isn’t doing yourself any favors.
Finding a friendship where love used to be is hard (which is why I would hope she would’ve worded it differently if she’d actually been addressing Walky), and sometimes the heartbreak makes it too hard, but the principal stands. If friendship with your ex is possible, that’s not something to sneer at.
LovelyMonsters
Whoah there, Captain Boldtext, if you’d read my reply a little more carefully instead of formatting your html for maximum consdescension, you would have noticed that I was careful to say “My personal veiw [sic] is that friendship is lesser than romantic partnership”, and I phrased it that way because I’m aware that this is neither a universal nor objective. I know lots of people who feel the same way you do. I know lots of people who feel the same way I do. I don’t think we’ve been given enough information about Walky’s view, if any, on the subject to know where he stands.
And yes, Dorothy was making a “general fucking statement”. Claiming that “she is goddamn right about it”, however, is hypocritically imposing your (subjective and non-absolute) opinion about relationships on everyone. If that is what you and Dorothy think, that’s fine. But your priorities regarding relationships are not universal, or some kind of objective moral absolute.
Whether Dorothy was aiming that comment at Walky is unclear, and although she definitely had him in mind when she said it, it reads to me more as though she is trying to convince herself of it more than anyone else. Regardless, saying it in Walky’s hearing was tactless and tasteless, and if Walky feels that his behaviour or outlook are being dictated to him by the time she gets around to “You’re better than that”, I could understand that, even if he is not correct.
I continue to disagree that taking a break from relationships is not inherently shitty. I continue to disagree–again, on an entirely personal level–that friendship is not “less” than romantic partnership.
Finally, while there is no morally wrong reason to end a relationship (there doesn’t have to be a reason, per se, at all), the absolute and unassailable right to make decisions about how your life is going to go does not guarantee that you’re not going to totally screw the pooch sometimes. I continue to think Dorothy’s decision to break up with Walky–given that she a) did not discuss her academic “problems” with him and approach the situation as a team; b) seems to be concerned about extra credit and a perfect GPA, neither of which will necessarily affect her long-term priorities anyway; and c) seems genuinely to love Walky and love being in a relationship with him–was a poor choice based on stupid reasons. A stranger yelling at me on the Internet about these topics has done little to change my views.
thejeff
Not to address most of that, but Dorothy and Walky very much did discuss her academic problems and had started to try to approach them together. Which had led Walky, on his own, to think he was going to have to break up with her, so she wouldn’t be distracted.
cbwroses
That’s the thing. Dorothy and Walky are not friends right now. Walky’s feelings are so messed up that he doesn’t even want to be in the same room as her.
So she can’t use her girlfriend tone or he friend tone with him because she’s neither.
Maybe once things have settled, but right now she can’t use a reasonable tone of voice to talk Walky down from doing something he wants to do, which is pick with Joyce.
Andy
She kinda did lose access to it, though. In regards to him, at least. A not insignificant part of their relationship was her holding him to a higher standard than he held himself with the implicit (and possibly explicit? I dont remember for sure) threat of breakup if he didn’t meet those standards. So for her to try saying “Hey, hold yourself to a higher standard” is kinda similar to her booty calling him. It’s a relationship perk she’s trying to hold onto despite being the one to say they can’t have a relationship.
George
Ayuupp. After that stunt she pulled with his pajama pants, she kinda had this coming.
Reltzik
And also, the whole point of the breakup was because Dorothy thought it would be best to limit access.
Fart Captor
The point was that she didn’t have the time or emotional energy for a relationship. Breaking up was obviously going to mean they’d spend less time together, but it’s not going to magically change their class schedules or disentangle their social circles. So even if she didn’t still want to be friends, they’d still HAVE to see each other.
Her tone may have been wrong, but she had every right to scold him for teasing her friend
thejeff
And he’s got every right to respond.
Firestk
Sorry but (from my perspective) you’re straining too hard in identifying with Dorothy. She’s been so wrapped up in her relationship and everything else I don’t think she and by extension, you actually noticed the adversarial friendship between Joyce and Walky. Otherwise you might have noticed this is business as usual with a new subject, Joyce confusing “true love” with old fashioned freshman horniness. This is how they are.
And seriously you can’t rule out the possibility of this being the Walky version of calling her out on shitty behavior that we already know Dot isn’t the only one to notice.
Tori
I don’t know. There’s something really nasty about replying to “Hey, quit picking on my friend,” with, “Nah, I’m only invested in your opinion when you’re dating me.” …Ugh, I’m not wording this right. I mean, on one level, yes, after a breakup, it’s perfectly okay (and usually healthy!) to stop investing in your ex’s opinion. But making a point of flaunting your newfound lack of regard for your ex *to their face*, especially when all they’re asking is for you to stop antagonizing their friend, is… less so.
Snippy Harold